The great debate

Never played Rebirth, but out of the rest, Xenoblade 2 is hands down the best. Metaphor and 33 just look way too ugly.

Nocturne is the only good turn based game

kek

Rebirth is just the complete package

part 2 of 4

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that Xenoblade 2 sneak

Elden Ring is better than all four.

I played most of these unlike zoomies ITT
Rebirth = E33 > X2 >>>> Metaphor

Never played Xenoblade but I will never buy the rest.

Rebirth = E33

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO0OOOOOOOOOOOOO

Played all except Xenoblade 2
Metaphor >>>>>>>> shithole >>>>> E33 >>>>>>>>> Rebirth

This but for Xenoblade 2. The garbage coomer bait is not good. It runs at like 480p 27fps too

Haven't played E33 yet, but I want to

Rebirth > Metaphor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Xenoblade 2(I regret buying it)

Panzer Dragoon Saga is better than all of those combined.

LMAO whats Rebirth doing there

Exactly, it's far too good to be on there

Complete package as in good combat, good story, good content, good characters, good music

good combat

it's incredible how you zoomies have no fucking standard

Name a better real time combat system in a party based RPG

Listen man, ive played far more videogames than you
dont lecture me if you think metaphor or exp33 combat is better

Either Rebirth or Clair Obscure are overrated garbage.

real time combat system in a party based RPG

kys

So you can't name one because you're a turnbased vegan? I personally like both, but I play a wide variety of games.

Hasn't only one of these won RPG of the year? :)

They are all pretty good but Rebirth feels the most like you are taking a journey across the world meeting new bioms, towns, culture, like old school jrpgs like grandia, wild arms, breath of fire, dragon quest, lufia, illusion of gaia, terranigma etc it just has that old school feel about it on your journey which i loved the most about jrpgs and missed for years.

E33 didn't have its chance yet, but it will 100% get more awards than Metaphor screencap this

Alright. Capped. Good luck sister.

I think we can all agree that Metaphor won

ITT: Rorschach test to see what pisses you off the most in a JRPG.

See you in December lil bro

This thread reeks of barry

I only know persona

I played this as a kid

All my oomfies love it

Yeah I never touched a jrpg before so what

This
I played all of them and e33 is at least 1 point higher than the rest in the score scale

everything revolves around my boogeyman

Seek psychological help

Xenoblade 2 is the greatest game ever made.

They're all shit. There's no debate.

good story

I want to post "LMAO", but it's actually not funny how badly they butchered the parts of FFVII's story Rebirth covers

Overall better written than the og.

Xenoblade X

XC2 shouldn't be there with the others at all.

All of this discussion is great and everything but Xenoblade 2 has Mythra

Holy kek
This looks like shit

480p at 20 fps is beautiful now

LOL. LMAOOOOOO.

The great debate

Of what?
The only game I kind recommend is Metaphor, but even that is kind of meh.

Only one of them is getting a sequel in the next 3 years. E33 mogs metaflop though.

Why is a trash game like Xenoblade 2 next to 3 masterpieces?

If it was Xenoblade 1 it would have been the best of the 4 though.

Xenoshit is the only one that I straight up don't recommend. It's garbage.

Japan user voted

Ah yes, the japanese notoriously shit taste.

Not even a little bit. Rebirth is vastly worse in terms of writing, and only someone who hasn't played the original would claim otherwise.

Rebirth>Xenoblade 2>E33>turtle shit>Metaphor

Nah, i just see things for what they are. I dont just write off things from rebirth just because it is different from the original.

Works on my machine.

I'll take the one without anime on the cover.

why the fuck is xenoblade 2 there? Am I missing something?
Anyway Metaphor is better than all of those.

GIGA TRVKE

Back to L#ddit

Neither do I, retard. Spooky ghosts ruinging every scene, idiotic changes to any scene involving Sephiroth to extend them artificially, defanging everything about Corel and Dyne's tragedy, laughably embarrassing multiverse nonsense so we can keep our profitable Aerith and Zack characters in the produc- I mean, story. Cid is entirely out of character, anything involving Chadly is unpleasant. The list goes on. It's trash carried exclusively by good combat (but shit exploration) good music (though only some remixes live up to the originals), and good monster designs (also taken from the original, with shit realistic visuals hampering the rest of the game when it clearly should have been anime/manga-inspired like the original concept art).

You don't give a shit about FFVII, don't expect me to continue wasting my time with you.

If Rebirth wasn't there, it would be a list of the best recent RPGs.

netflix

high quality

???

Spooky ghosts ruinging every scene

No argument, they are called whspers, not "spooky ghosts", and when they appear it is precisely in relation with the plot.

idiotic changes to any scene involving Sephiroth to extend them artificially

Eh, there are some cutscenes that dont add much but most of them make sense for the plot.

defanging everything about Corel and Dyne's tragedy

Thats pretty retarded to say. The rebirth version is better written and explores the dynamic of barret and dyne better. If the original had dyne dying in a shotout nobody would say a thing. Dyne still died in a suicidal, violent way and it didnt give barret the closure he wanted. Thats more powerful than anything presented in the original.
Not gonna bother with the rest because i read "multiverse" and thats when i check out

Xenoblade 2 by far, it has the most SOVL

youtube.com/watch?v=ZtGshqkmEPU

Though I have to admit FFVIIR did have soulful elements straight out of the OG, but god damn the world was fucking awful and repetitive.

e33 > xb2 > metaphor >>> final fagtasy

Metaflop

Metashit

Fatlas really can't help themselves can they? At least Stillbirthfags and the tendies know their place.

still including XC2 in there

Fuck off already faggot.

E33 faggots seething

Isn't Lies of P DLC coming out this year? That's my action RPG of the year.

b-but goy journos love metaflop!

E33 already outsold it

All great games. In order of favorites, Clair Obscur > Xenoblade 2 > Metaphor > FF7 Rebirth.

Rebirth was raped, Larry.

barry

An unfortunate part of anonymity. You can be responding to a schizophrenic arguing with himself and playing both sides.

metaphor, rebirth, and expedition 33 are all great games that I loved a lot, but expedition 33 is the clear winner imo
didn't play xb2 because Im not a tendie

anon can't recommend games he didn't play

well yeah, no shit. I wouldn't either.

critic reviews suddenly matter when you agree with them

top fucking kek, name one reputable "critic". post the user reviews, faggot.
btw i love both games, I'm a huge atlusfag and metaphor was my runner up for goty so I'm not biased against it in the slightest, unlike you who didn't even play expedition 33

SMT V or Soul Hackers 2 trump all four

Xenoblade 2 MOGS
You could talk all of the breasts from each of those three games combined and it still wouldn't come close to the XB2 cast.

Hahahahaha

the user reviews

E33's user reviews are almost all fake have you not been keeping up?

Based Hana JD GET

Replace Redditbirth with UO.
E33 > UO > Metaphor > Xenoblade (didn't play).

Not remotely a debate
E33 >>>>>>>. Metaphor >>> Rebirth >>>>>> Xeno

Metaphor > Rebirth > XC2 > E33

let me guess, it came to you in a dream? post your achievements and playtime for expedition 33 otherwise your opinion is irrelevant. imagine spending every single day of your life shitting on a game you haven't played because you're buckbroken people think it's better than a game you enjoy
imagine not being a well adjusted person who can enjoy more than one game/developer and can form his own opinions. you have brown skin and are an embarrassment.

Why is there so much hate for FF7R?

E33=Rebirth>>Metaphor>>>>>XC3

Expedition 33. Debate over.
/thread

immediately dodges the question

Most games have people making accounts just to review them but never on the scale of this slop. You must be a retard.

let's try this again except you can only rank the games you've actually played
E33 > Metaphor = Rebirth
all 3 are kino games but E33 wins. i won't rank XB2 because i haven't played it, unlike the actual subhumans who rank X game last when they haven't played it

everyone points FF7R as a massive flop

FF7R is actually the most sold on that pic

Games with less than 80% on Steam are not worthy of being placed alongside E33 and Metaphor. Games that are not on Steam are also disqualified.

the game is so good it drove people to want to review it. i know your feeble mind can't grasp the possibility that the game is actually that good, but it is.

I may despise the Rebirth gameplay loop to where it's the only big FF release I've ever dropped, but at least it's still an RPG and not a turn-based action gsme like Chinks Obscured

literally took someone else's screnshot that was shitting on slop 33

Between this post and this one I don't know which is more pathetic

Japanese will never vote Expedition 33 since they are already complaining that the game is too hard. Not even memeing. If you want to win over Japanese gamers you need your game to be easy since Japanese are bad at videogames(with the sole exception of fighting games).

everyone thinks you're a fag for equating sales = quality

How many yuans did you get for this post from Kepler

literally took someone else's screnshot

keep coping you buckbroken retard, that's my fucking steam account and i played all 3. now it's your turn to post proof you actually played the games that you hold such strong opinions about.

I'm not digging out anything for your shitposting ass

You literally just did this yesterday and no one bit then lmao your discord needs better material

Well uh bro chill out man, I just wanted to make my argument stronger and needed something that made it look like I played all those games... get a sense of humor dude.

EZ

E33 > Metaphor > Rebirth
I like all 3 but rebirth's open world "zones" are fucking tedious slop and seriously bring it down. I was so relieved when I got to the overworld in E33 since I had no idea how they were going to handle it.

Metaphor is good but I honestly wish it innovated more since it was just persona lite with SMT's press turn. Although team attacks were a good idea.

E33 is like the anti-jrpg

dirt simple narrative

short runtime

paced like a movie for adhd zoomers

heavily action oriented gameplay to where its comical on expert difficulty

I couldn't stomach it for more than 7 hours, which is already 7x as much time as its fans are physically capable of spending on a real game from the genre

yes i did this yesterday because the same retards post the same asinine bullshit day in and day out. in yet another thread full of mongoloids confidently shitting on a game they haven't played, i simply post proof that i actually played all of them and am thus qualified to rank them. this is apparently "discord material" in your opinion?
it's not just expedition 33 either, i'll shit on this faggot for not having played rebirth and these faggots for not having played metaphor and yet still ranking them like their opinions are worth a fuck
hourly reminder nobody claiming expedition 33 is bad will ever post their playtime despite being asked in every single thread.

Metaphor is one of the best JRPGs ever made and haters should take the rope.

No one is posting play times because no one is dumb enough to bite

It's always funny to see the mental gymnastics of midwits just to hate on a GOTY like E33.

I bought Metaphor and Clair but I havent played either of them yet.

mental gymnastics

That's the guys on discord still trying to come up with shill talking points past day 14

you are fucking braindead, i hope for your parents sake that you get gibs for your mental disability and aren't going to be a burden on them for the rest of their life.

Pissing yourself everywhere is not going to make anyone more eager to bite. If you were aiming this at the absolutely retarded E33 fanbase then you might have had more luck.

embrace the difficulties of multicultural society

yeah this guy's a real authority isn't he?

continues to not dispute the fact that he hasn't played the game

i accept your concession

concession

Then you conceded on the slop 33 user reviews 10 posts ago lmao

Being this upset that a bunch of posters don't like a massively overrated FOTM is a much stronger sign of a mental disability

I don't know anything about these other games, can they run on a steam deck? Do they suck?
I played remake and the retarded fucking multiverse shit instead of it being a remake killed my interest

there's no way to objectively prove anything about user reviews. there is however a way to prove you actually played a game.

massively overrated FOTM

ah so surely you can post your achievements and playtime, right?

This was a bait thread from the beginning but every day I wish a little more that Expedition 33 just didn't exist

FFcultists spamming waifu threads because their game is irrelevant

Every hour, every day

ah so surely you can post your achievements and playtime, r-ACK!

Maybe all 7000 of those shell accounts are real you don't know for sure!

Holy fuck

This dumbass still thinks FF is even a factor in retaliating against tiktok 33

Congrats braindead retard, you took the bait.

They're all good and can run on a deck

i'll go ahead and believe that's yours. thank you for actually posting it and i respect your opinion.
there is now one person here who played the game and doesn't think it's great (though obviously despite calling it massively overrated still liked it enough to 100% it). this now means a 1% portion of posts shitting on the game can be considered valid. that doesn't change the fact that damn near every poster shitting on the game hasn't played it
calling something bait just because it's convenient for you doesn't actually make it bait. how exactly is asking for proof that someone played a game bait?

this now means a 1% portion of posts shitting on the game can be considered valid

You can choke on your own cock lol

SMT V clears lol

that must mean it's pretty massive, thank you for the compliment

Base and VV both shit on E33 and XC2
The rest not really

You would know better than I do, it's your mouth

in terms of combat
rebirth > clair > metaphor(pure 4 niggas in a row) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xenoshit

Metakino > rebirth > xc3 fuck 2 > Expedition

in terms of playerbase who have had sex
E33 > metaphor > ff7 >xeno

E33 fanbase doesn't have enough normies in it for that and the guys conflating it with an actual ps2 Era rpg who don't want to admit to the shilling have had less sex than a monk

this isn't a conversation, virg.

Gotta be the French, I can't stand Jap acting

game sold poorly

"haha, told you it was trash!"

game sold decently

"huh bro, sales =/= quality"

E33 fanbase doesn't have enough normies in it

lol

conflating it with an actual ps2 Era rpg

exp33 mogged every ps2 jrg besides maybe final fantasy x, and its not even close

This is true, XC2 fans will never have sex. Just look at Enel grooming teenagers in his discord, probably that ugly retard never got laid.

E3> FF7R> Poop> Metaturd.

I've definitely taken more ejoyable shits than FF7R's slew of trashy minigames

E33 > whatever inorganic slop you like ;)

You probably haven’t player any of these 4 games and just want to complain about expedition 33

I've noticed E33 haters are almost always trans. Why do you think that is?

Hey, if only it was just minigames. Don't you enjoy hearing CHADley spouting the same shit over and over again? And MEI's pathetic attempt at being an AI waifu?

E33 >> Metaphor >>>> Rebirth = XB2

are you faggots slow? i've said in at least 5 posts that expedition 33 is my favorite game out of them
see

Metaphor for visual novels
Final Fantasy for presentation.
Xenoblade for gameplay.
I know nothing about Expedition 33, for people who think the French can out weeb the weebs?

AMA

Swap XB2 with 1.
Drop Rebirth for Elden Ring or something.

Not PC+Switch

What's wrong with you?

not using the reverse cover for Rebirth

Xenoblade

Why are you playing games instead of shitposting about them like others?

Which one, they all play different.

PC+Switch

not PC + 3DS

anon..

Why do tendies pretend xenoshit is good
neither is metaphor
hell neither is final fantasy

Unlike you people tend to like games, what do you like, Fifa?

Post a (You) pic

They're all real time party RPGs.

Said name a better, singular, so again, which one?

here's one from a while back

You seem nice

Me on the left

I like your pins. Cute anon is cute.

based vidya enjoyer

This is very cringe

Rebirth > Xenoblade 2 > Metaphor >>>>> WRPG
Zoomer western tranny game

Why the hell did you drag xenoblade 2 into this dumb console war thread? It's not even the latest xeno game.

Console War Thread

Only one game is an exclusive

You ok anon?

i'm one of the biggest westoid game haters on the face of the planet and haven't played a single one in 5-6 years, but E33 is great and you are quite simply a faggot

zoomer game

turn based

lol.

tranny game

maelle

lol.

Even if they're on other systems they're clearly not Xbox or switch titles retard
so they're sony

All of them. It's sound and valid logic.

it was actually quite a genius move by op, if it was just rebirth/metaphor/e33 the thread would be completely ruined by tendies. by adding xb2 he gave nintengroids a false sense of legitimacy.

virgin pretending to be a chad

errytiem

Please uninstall tiktok, it's not too late to save the remaining brain cells you do have.

People posting screenshots without timestamps

I'm not saying it's a literal console war, It's just the way I call these threads putting random things against each other, because in spirit, they're the same as a console war.

why are 33 fags so fucking insaffurable?

XIIIfag calling anyone else insufferable

kek?

based

Sorry but real JRPGs like Yakuza 8 have better gameplay and better waifus, E33 is only liked by people who don't usually play turn based games

checked out at multiverse

Yeah, that's the problem, retard. So did everyone else playing your garbage.

If you haven't played the Mario RPGs, your opinions on the genre are worth less than shit.

surely you can post achievements and playtime for expedition 33, since you hold such a strong opinion about it?

only liked by people who don't usually play turn based games

LMAO

clears the better two, but not the worse two

Actual retardation.

Based, frog shill didnt like this post

Lose some weight, bro. You're speedrunning heart attack %.

holy shit, four cakes!

Mai is cute. CUTE

Hello VIIfag, why are you replying to yourself? This isn't /ffg/.

That artist makes the best piss drinking hentai, alongside Tama-bon

its mostly the same few dishonest retards

ff jeet marketer sneaking afterbirth in there like we wouldn't notice

Kek this is real pic. Buy an ad next time.

its sold more and its also objectively better

It was shilled to death here when it was ps5 exclusive and when the rest of Anon Babble finally got to play it on pc they realized it was shit.

Why does the image look so much more comfy now

I thought it would be shit when it was ps5 exclusive and when I finally got to play it on pc I realized its kino

XBC2 is good but I can't take the story or its characters seriously. It was a huge step down from XBC1.
Rebirth is terrible.
Metaphor is ok.
E33 wins easily.

name?

Jeets are fighting world war poo right now, anon.

Same happened with XVI and the samefag shill kept saying all the shitposting was just PC vegans mad that it's exclusive and they everyone would suddenly love it when it got ported.

Would have gone with Expedition 33 up until that dogshit last act and ending. I have a feeling I will remember Metaphor much more fondly in the future. Call me old fashioned but I enjoy it when the characters and the journey I go on with them isn't meaningless.

Unironically this

Tendies still have ptsd with anything related to FF

Why are weebtrashes trying to latch onto Expedition kino?

For me it is Rebirth, the other games feel like they dont belong in the same category.

Rebirth is the only game out of them that has it all:

- good characters,
- lots of enemies and bosses,
- lots of enemy variations with more than 150
different enemy models,
- lots of bioms/location variety,
- lots of towns that are all unique and different
to each other
- amazing visuals
- amazing music and more of it than all the
other games combined
- good characters that play widely different from
each other
- longest and most content rich game and its
not even close
- most variety in content
- hardest game on hard mode
- largest game world by far
- and to top it all off easily the best combat
gameplay of them all with the objectively best
group action combat system in the entire
industry and it is not even close.

- As a bonus has the loudest few borderline schizo haters on /v who are contrarians because they think it will make them look cool which is giving rebirth the defacto seal of approval of /v.

All the other games might have maybe one thing they do better if you squint your eyes but fail in all other things by comparison to rebirth.
None of them are the complete package that rebirth is, none.

Because pretty much the only turn based game that managed to attract a lot of fans was expedition and maybe BG3. FF used to be the popular one until SE pulled too many shitty FF games so now the ones that were hiding in the corner became braver while the big titan is down, but in the end the ones who managed to prove they don't need ff or approval were bg3 and expedition 33 by their own merits, the others would immediately hide or suck ff cock again if this one became big again (hard since SE is retarded)

This
Metaphor's ending doesn't get enough praise: I got the same felling as old JRPGs when their adventures ended at a high note.

Smtvtroon and xenoshill trying to fit in

Fixed it for you, oh, and buy an ad

Based. Also if you are going to use smt5 you may as well use Persona 5.

I've only played Rebirth out of those and while it started good, the amount of stupid gimmicks and minigames used for padding made my experience very miserable 50 hours in. If they removed all the filler crap, it might have been a great game. Same applies for Remake.

What the fuck Xenoshit is even doing there? lmao

Based

Hard to argue because love it or hate it is true.

Rebirth combat is fun but is hold back by the pacing and 7 world. Recycle for a new game and you are good, also ONE game not 3 games.

Remake is better than Rebirth. Idk why you would include the inferior game.

Rebirth is like RE6 in that case.

Expedition 33 > Metaphor > FFVII Rebirth > Tendie toddler teletubby toon

remake is 6/10 at best if i'm being generous, rebirth is 8.5/10 maybe even a 9/10
steam reviews are shit because of seething poorfags whining about performance

Other games

tell a complete story

Rebirth

is a shitty remake of one third of a better game

Now THIS is a good list

Based

Looking at the negative reviews for Rebirth are complaining about the bloat and minigames.

complaining about too much optional content is smoothbrain negroid shit

Having played them all
E33>XC2>metaphor>rebirth

Buy an ad xenobladefag

Ah okay. So Rebirth is better if you ignore 80% of Rebirth's content.

Fpbp

I say this as a japanboo, the French humiliated the Japs.

Remake is more focused even if the story is more retarded. Rebirth is very clearly the devs trying to copy western open world slop without any understanding of how to make it fun.

Xenoblade 2

Why?

i'm just saying it would be like rating a Yakuza game low because it has too many minigames, substories, girlfriends, collectables, etc. it just makes no sense. you are allowed to do the main story and as much or as little side content as you want, too much optional content is simply not a reasonable knock against a game
and i'm saying this as someone who ranks rebirth below E33 and roughly equal to Metaphor

Ooof. Even XVI has a higher score than Redditbirth.

Rebirth is nips listening too hard to fandom

We want more minigames!

It's not very fair to use steam reviews as an example. Ignoring performance complains, a lot of mini-games are straight up impossible with keyboard and mouse.

What about PSN?

Reality is millennials are too old for these games now so they prefer war and drama over enjoying content.

Ohnonono AHAHAHAHAA

SMTV troonslop fucking sucked. I'd rather just play Pokemon.

snoystation cucks couldn't perceive performance issues if it bit them on the dick, therefor these reviews are much more fair

Reality is millennials

t. zoomoid

couldn't go 2 sentences without outing yourself as a nintendgroid faggot, could you? how far into smtv did you get filtered, lmao?

Exp 33 > FF15 > Metaphor > The rest is slop

I'm a millennial and you can tell the fall anon, you will see more threads sperging and fantasizing about anything over actually talking about turn based games.

Tabata is the japanese druckmann, he pays to get focus

that's a Anon Babble problem not an age group problem, millennials still have better taste than anyone else

Expedition 33 is actually great, Metaphor can't even name characters or events and rely too much on controversy with Rebirthfags, that's how mid it was

where is relink lol none of those games come close to that game

youtu.be/pVTxMzltGtw?si=F0Lth-609G2_6934

Fixed.

i love relink but it's not even remotely in the same genre, dipshit

its a jrpg lol you can easily slot in in here

can't we all just get along?

you'd have to be a complete and utter moron to consider relink a jrpg outside of being extremely technical about the definition

Yeah alright

kys cygames shill, relink was a dogcrap barebones game

Haven't "played" any of 'em and have no desire to. Post some actual vidya, not this moviegame shit.

Iran

Doesn't belong here either lmao

post achievements and playtime?

everybody laugh at this brown-skinned westoidslop consuming zoomzoom. you will never fit in here, faggot.

You're brown

SoP >>>> E33 >> Metaphor = XBC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>...

Redditbirth.

xenoshill calling others shill

Lmao

Implying this is not your thread and you want to dramabait

Metaphor, next question

I checked my local public library, they usually stock up on most of the hit RPGs for rentals but they only got 3 copies of E33. Usually a popular game they order 6-12 copies for rent.

I rent before I buy as I have been burned too many times in recent years. (well borrow, they are free 7 day rentals from the library). I'll grab E33 when its back in.

Rebirth for me

Based SoP appreciator. E33 had heart but felt a bit padded, and Metaphor's worldbuilding was strong but fell into the classic Atlus trap of style over substance. Rebirth was gorgeous but way too safe. Xeno stays peak if you're into insanely layered narratives and big brain lore dumps.

True

I have been burned too many times in recent years

skill issue desu, e33 is a buy btw

SoP

I respect anon's strength

All slop

Tired japanese humor

Most plebbit take ever

Ive seen people complaining about no turn based combat, different story and splitting the game into parts, then theres the based chads with valid complaints like censored Tifa

Yes however the side content is Ubislop tier dogshit though

XC2 > Rebirth
Haven't played Metaphor or E33.

No we can't, not unless you want western trannies flooding every turn based games fanbase and demanding every JRPG to feature no Kino anime tropes, stand up against the gaijin invader with their slop 33, don't let Persona become Last of Us dogshit