A little reminder that the Switch 2 you purchase is not yours...

A little reminder that the Switch 2 you purchase is not yours, it belongs to Nintendo and they can do whatever they want with it.

little timmy's switch gets nuked because of a false positive

Can't wait for the 5000 threads about this when it happens

YOU WOULDNT DOWNLOAD A NINTENDO

unauthorized use

Lmao i bought it, if i want to stick it up my ass i'm free do so, whatcha gonna do tendies?

Is it really that hard to not be a racist, homophobic, sexist, transphobic incel? Nintendo is an inclusive company dedicated to diversity and inclusion. If you dont like it, go elsewhere.

Company wants to do legally questionable and scummy thing

Cram it into a user agreement you have to sign off on to use their service

Get away with it

Can anything be done about this?

well that's illegal in the European Union

buy a license to use hardware that requires further purchases of licenses to play games which then require further purchases of licenses to play online

any of the above can be revoked at any moment without reason, recourse or refund

I love the future

Have you tried not using it in an unauthorized way?

>Can anything be done about this?

You can waste your life arguing with the millions of tendies who will keep defending it

By having laws that make sure to give consumers rights, such as right to self repair and other things like that. IP law does not and has never given a company the right to destroy a physical product that they sell, because they don't like how it is being used by the end user. Even if such things can lead to illegal things, it is not in the companies purview to do anything about, as these methods of detection are not infallible, do end up with false positives and harmfully impact the lives of innocents. Things like this are in the same vein as planned obsolescence, which has been deemed as illegal as well. It will only take one court case where someone let someone borrow a virtual game card and that system was modified and for Nintendo to brick both systems for them to be told that you can't have a fucking kill switch in your console because you got butthurt over someone possibly using it for piracy.

How is this any different from being banned in a multiplayer game by saying a bad word?

Because that still lets you use the console. This is Nintendo telling people that they can make your console inoperable. Which is illegal.

Aren't you that same guy who spams anti-tendie threads day in and day out without end? What makes you think you're better than them?

IT WASN'T ME, IT WAS MY BROTHER!

I'll just not let them in when they come knocking

Which is illegal.

yes?
do people actually believe they are literally bricking consoles completely, and not just banning you from online stuff?

No I am not whatever schizo bogeyman you've conjured up in your head

Doesn't Xbox already do this?

This is illegal and wouldn’t fly in the old world.

Nobody in this thread reads the actual terms, they just assume the article is correct. Modern Anon Babble is completely retarded and thinks everyone on the internet is honest.
This fucking update just lets Nintendo block your entire console from online services if they detect you've modified it somehow, which is mostly to stop hackers from fucking with online games. This is normal practice for all console users and even Valve will just ban your entire account if they catch you fucking with the VAC.

This is pure nothingburger. Given how hard its being pushed I bet its that one anti-nintendo Schizo trying to push it too.

Cant want for a class action regarding destruction of property.

One thing is putting a warning "console might shit itself if you tamper with it" other is "we WILL brick the console if you install non Nintendo modifications"

Cool.
*pirates everything as usual*

No, because you can always create another account, Nintendo wants to kill your console directly.

I bet its that one anti-nintendo Schizo trying to push it too.

is he in the room with us right now anon?

Uhmm that's heckin illegal in poorope

How's that stop killing games petition going?

release product

malicious agents hack your product and use it to steal more of your products

can't include a killswitch to prevent this from happening

What else are they supposed to do?

Based. Total piratejeet death

you are so fucking retarded for thinking they are literally going to brick consoles just for installing cfw
you should actually be happy if that was what they are doing, since you could sue their asses off; but any non-retard understands that they obviously aren't

dude, shiggy bro, just flat out tell people we are breaking the law!

all consoles do this, ever since ds days.
hasn't stopped anyone, though. no idea why this is considered new news.

Just buy your video games. It's that easy.

Didn't Sony try to do the same and the Brazilian government forced them to change that?

Want legal way or the right way?

Okay, and? You own literally nothing in your existence anyway. Even your soul is on rent from whatever God is responsible, or the yawning maw of nothingness from which all existence spawned from, which is eager to bring its spawn back to unmaking oblivion.

"brick your console"

they have always done this, ever since online nintendo consoles were a thing
they don't "brick the console" though, they just ban you from their online services

stop

The retarded shit Tendies will say instead of admitting Nintendo is greedy

go

dont care still going to emulate it

switch 1 emulation already requires a $1000+ PC and still runs like shit for most games

retards think a system over twice as powerful as switch 1 is somehow going to be emulatable on current hardware

luh
mao

Doesn't affect me, don't care.

My condolences for any paying customer. That must feel horrible, to Exchange money for no services at all.

Emulates Mario kart worldses for free

I Hope you buy multiple copies to keep your favorite Company afloat.

switch emulators run just fine on steamdeck
also

1000 dollars is a lot of money!!

kek
imagine choosing the neet life and normalizing such poverty

A little reminder that I'm basically a lender to Nintendo and they're not entitled to my money. I loan them money in exchange of providing a quality product and service for me to use, and if they don't provide that, then money is simply not given to them.

Inserting the switch 2 up your loose asshole won't install illegal software to the hardware, so go nuts gaylord.

keep seething that Ill never need to pay for nintendos overpriced baby toys

Remember when they said you owned physical hardware? I member.

It's okay when Iwata did it.

Ever read the PS5 EULA?
playstation.com/en-us/legal/ps5-ssla/

If SIE Inc determines that you have violated this Agreement's terms, SIE Inc may itself or may procure the taking of any action to protect its interests such as disabling access to or use of some or all System Software, disabling use of this PS5 system online or offline, termination of your access to PlayStation™Network, denial of any warranty, repair or other services provided for your PS5 system, implementation of automatic or mandatory updates or devices intended to discontinue unauthorized use, or reliance on any other remedial efforts as reasonably necessary to prevent the use of modified or unpermitted use of System Software.

SIE Inc, its affiliates and licensors reserve the right to bring legal action in the event of a violation of this Agreement. SIE Inc may participate in governmental or private legal action or investigation relating to your use of System Software.

This is not the Nintendo I once knew...

Blame leftists. It's their fault for normalizing that kind of business.

STOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOP

It's hard to misinterpret this:

You acknowledge that if you fail to comply with the foregoing restrictions Nintendo may render the Nintendo Account Services and/or the applicable Nintendo device permanently unusable in whole or in part."

Nintendo is a terrorist organization and should be killed.

It's only in the US version

If you wanted to do something about it you should have done 20 years ago when Sony and MS put it into their tos

. IP law does not and has never given a company the right to destroy a physical product that they sell,

Yeah it does because it's not destroying the hardware, it's disabling the software which of course they own.

Sadly Americans love bending over and taking it in the ass when companies are involved and they are the biggest spenders in the west far as I know. For things to change Americans would need a sense of self respect and self control so, we're fucked.

Document it.
consumerrights.wiki/Nintendo
Lots of gaps in this page, and the switch 2 doesn't even have one yet. If we record all the ways ownership rights are being eroded in one place, it makes it easier to take action against them.

Jesus christ, almost none of that has anything to do with consumer right.
Why the fuck is being against emulation there? That has nothing to do with being a consumer.

and as others have said; what you retards think they are doing is literally illegal so obviously that isn't what they are doing

its literally illegal

And? Are you under the delusion that corporations can't just buy their way out of the law?

Turn my internet off

Hack the console and do whatever i please with it

Nintendo can't do jack and shit

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

Nintendo reserves the rights to brick your console following "unauthorised use", in bid to prevent priacy

This is fucking nothing though this is going to be hard for piratefags to play tendie games without reminding everyone including nintendo that they got these games for free

Oh, you're that anon who thinks that money is magic that can do anything.

STOOOP let me seethe about nintendo in peace

It is about consumer rights. We haven't adapted to recognize new deceptive practices for what they are.

Being anti-emulation isn't a consumers rights issue with the sale of the consoles, but it is with the sale of the game cartridges.

consumerrights.wiki/Mission_statement for more about what the focus of the wiki is. Anti emulation policies most closely fall into point 6, "Intentionally create obstacles to repair, causing otherwise functional devices to become unusable."

If you dont like it, go elsewhere.

Thanks, but I'll stick to Steam.

Don't know why Bowser of team Xecuter and modded hardware are even mentioned here. Emulation for personal use is legal but these actors were clearly infringing by making a profit off the selling of modified consoles

When you have enough of it, yes it is. Come on, have you never heard of the most popular legal tactic that they use, aka stalling a court case until the other side goes bankrupt, so they get a default ruling in their favor?

nintendo has been saying they'll do this since 2011 and never did it. it's just a scare tactic. they'd get sued if they actually did it.

It is about consumer rights

It's not, you're literally not a consumer. Are you confusing the words consume and consumer? Because they mean two different things.

but it is with the sale of the game cartridges.

That doesn't answer anything. But what did I expect from people who think that this

Take away the consumer's right to say "NO".

Is possible as if they're capable of controlling your ability to research and create informed decisions.

Oh no, not the poor little pirates.

you are an actual fucking mongoloid
yes, money can give you power
but it cannot, and i repeat, can fucking not; allow you to literally and publically say 'hey, don't mind us we're just gonna be breaking the law because we feel like it'

aka stalling a court case until the other side goes bankrupt, so they get a default ruling in their favor?

I assume you got that nonsense from the bleem case.

If Nintendo made a $1000 version of their console that played games at 4k 240fps, I would fucking buy it. Imagine thinking that the money is the problem like some poorfag.

i'd report my crack dealer to the police if he didn't give me crack in exchange for my money

Doesn't Sony and MS have these exact things in their T&C? Of course the internet thinks its only bad when Nintendo does it kek

When you buy a machine, you are buying the right not just to use the machine, but to modify and resell it.

Yeah, just about every piece of hardware with proprietary software does.

money doesn't let corporations do what they want

Tell that to the IRS, who literally got gaped open by Microsoft. And how about those anti-monopoly laws that exist to keep companies from growing too big, and again Microsoft just shrugged them off and laughed?

This. John Deere got fucked up the ass for trying to prevent people from modifying their tractors. You never see Sony or Microsoft suing people for modifying PlayStations and Xboxes. Why is Nintendo exempt?

tendies love to be scammed

It's only wrong when Nintendo does it.

You mean the same tactic Disney tried to use against Gina Carano and got btfod over it. Injunction isn't a guarantee

I fucking hate jewtendo and their fan boys

Disabling the software, so the system becomes unusable, almost as if they bricked it

This flavor of the week outrage is a nothing burger. This doesn't affect normal paying customers.

You don't have a right to piracy.

I swear its like the internet thinks Nintendo should make their shit free with the way it hyper focuses on them, never seen so much entitlement.

Aren't there legal non-profits that throw their support behind the little guy when stuff like this happens? Where are the most reliable ones, and where can I support them?

Yeah, because her suit was literally funded by Elon Musk.

Vimm's Lair gets fucked by vidya companies

Who ca-

Nintendo was one of the companies

NINTENDO JUST KILLED VIMM'S LAIR, PRESERVATION TAKES A DEVESTATING BLOW

Injunction is dependent on judge

All it takes is one false positive that can be proven in court for Nintendo to regret this decision.

It's bad when they do it too. I don't buy sony and I use windows as little as I can get away with.

So you don't actually have any real examples.

More like it's dependent on how much the judge gets paid.

yup

gonna need sources on that since your attempting to move goalposts

can fucking not; allow you to literally and publically say 'hey, don't mind us we're just gonna be breaking the law because we feel like it'

You are a fucking moron. That happens all the damn time.

Fags like you are why farmers have to sue to repair their own tractors in America

based

Don't go online with modded consoles retard. How many times do you have to learn this lesson.

Console age is over. Imagine being a company like Nintendo and basically admitting that your company is held up by exclusives

Which is why you have to make up instances of it happening.
Meanwhile a little old woman with coffee on her legs is laughing at you.

just ignore all the blatant corruption in congress, and lobbying that should be outlawed but goes ignored in every single court proceeding and case law

ignore how Disney shoved money into politicians' pockets to extend copyright law to 150 years

ignore how Nintendo can literally file patents AFTER a competing game comes out, and then retroactively uses them to sue said game

ignore sony destroying Bleem over frivolous court cases, even though Bleem was redeemed and in the right according to the presiding judges

NONE OF THOSE EXAMPLES COUNT, CHUD. THE LAW IS PERFECT AND CAN NEVER BE QUESTIONED

And don't even get me started on monsanto.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto_legal_cases

man with platform that has no exclusives

EXCLUSIVES BAD

I thought it was common sense to not allow pirated software and modified hardware to connect to the internet.

You mean... Like every single console to date other than the ps4 and 5?

I thought Gachafags were the most retarded posters here. Guess I was wrong, it's actually tendies.

sometimes a court case can't be defended

that means corruption never happens

EU ToS unchanged

EU chads win again.

You don't have to be a fan of a specific company to know pirates are entitled shitbags.

So Nintendo invented locking down their hardware? Better tell MS and Sony

>ignore how Disney shoved money into politicians' pockets to extend copyright law to 150 years

Many people blame Disney but it wasn't just them, it was just about every relevant creator at the time.

>ignore how Nintendo can literally file patents AFTER a competing game comes out, and then retroactively uses them to sue said game

Which never happened, they filed the patents in 2021 and 22 in Japan and the US respectively, the process takes two years, add 2 to 22 and what do you get?

>ignore sony destroying Bleem over frivolous court cases, even though Bleem was redeemed and in the right according to the presiding judges

Which didn't work the way you thought seeing as this is your only example of "extending" a trial. Which of course was many trials with Sony losing in a fair amount of them. In fact bleem is the best example of money not getting the win automatically given Sony losing the initial case was the reason they got so butthurt.

You tried and failed.

I'd argue that the corpos who feel entitled to your money while also feeling like they should not give you ownership of the product you buy are more entitled. Piracy is often an availability issue and studies have been done showing it doesn't have a negative impact on sales.

console age is over

muh ps5

lay off the hrt tendie xister and actually read the posts your replying to

I'll just never connect it to the Internet. Problem solved.

i played pirated dark souls 1 on ps3 with custom firmware for a few months and didn't get banned, on the official servers before they got shut down

Piracy is often an availability issue

You being a poor brown entitled third worlder that needs to work a whole month to afford a $70 game is not an availability issue.

This seems like a really fast way to get sued after Apple did something similar with throttling the performance of old iPhone and iPad models to force upgrades. Somebody spoonfeed me, I'm not reading OP's article.

>sometimes a court case can't be defended

You're joking right? They defended the fuck out of it and by all rights Mcdonalds should have won that since
1) she's the one who put the cup in her lap
2) the coffee wasn't any hotter than others at the time
But they still lost. It's a case that proves that no matter how big you are you can't just pay your way out.

Back during covid lockdowns everyone was playing COD warzone, until millions of people got banned for cheating overnight. The default response was 'you've been caught cheating we don't make mistakes you cant appeal it'.
After a few days Activision admitted they'd fucked up and unbanned everyone.
But funny seeing everyone on forums say 'you've been cheating and are just upset you've been caught daddy is never wrong'

nintendo defence force on action

and actually read the posts your replying to

He says as he only read the "PS5" of one post.

It’s basically what the title says, no reading required

on action

hello third world ESL sonyfag

after Apple did something similar with throttling the performance of old iPhone and iPad models to force upgrades.

That's not even remotely close to the same thing.

The default response was 'you've been caught cheating we don't make mistakes you cant appeal it'.

Ah, the World of Warcraft approach. "Our totally not automated system caught you, you're banned forever, don't try and escalate this ticket, we'd hate to actually pay a human to review it"

You have no argument. When you buy nintendo, you're paying for the nintendo experince. Anyone who tries to use their games and system in a way other than how nintendo's developers intended them to be used is insanely entitled. People who do nuzlocks and people who don't find all the koroks deserve to be locked up.

Many people blame Disney but it wasn't just them, it was just about every relevant creator at the time.

You mean all the people with money, because only a retard would support 150 year long copyright laws.

Which never happened, they filed the patents in 2021 and 22 in Japan and the US respectively, the process takes two years, add 2 to 22 and what do you get?

You get something that shouldn't be admissible in court, because the patents weren't finalized yet? You shouldn't be able to patent basic mechanics in the first place, if we're being honest.

Which didn't work the way you thought seeing as this is your only example of "extending" a trial. Which of course was many trials with Sony losing in a fair amount of them. In fact bleem is the best example of money not getting the win automatically given Sony losing the initial case was the reason they got so butthurt.

That's because sony are a bunch of idiots, but they still won by bleeding Bleem dry with excessive court costs and bankrupting them. But you still think that's a win for the court system, so you're not exactly the sharpest tool in the drawer.

Mc Donald's lost that case by their own retardation.

Yes it's for the US terms only. America just got finished abolishing what little consumer rights protections they had so it's all good.

They defended the fuck out of it and by all rights Mcdonalds should have won

And the corporate shill reveals himself.

They were also serving it far hotter than their competitors

unauthorized use

It's MY computer hardware that I paid for, if I want to install an emulator to play hentai games under RPG Maker I will do it and I'm ready to die for it

Not my heckin $400 console! Better spend $450,000 taking Nintendo to court!

Retard

the coffee wasn't any hotter than others at the time

That's the problem. Mcdonalds policy was to serve dangerously hot coffee to ALL their customers.

what you retards think they are doing is literally illegal so obviously that isn't what they are doing

That's for a court to decide, not you. That's why people are upset by this. The only way this gets proven illegal is if they have the money and patience to fight Nintendo's lawyers in court and the pinkerton's that Nintendo usually hires when they make examples of people

And nobody is going to do that over a $500 switch.

but it cannot, and i repeat, can fucking not; allow you to literally and publically say 'hey, don't mind us we're just gonna be breaking the law because we feel like it'

Clearly neither of you know anything about civil case law so you need to shut the fuck up. Civil law isn't criminal law. they can put anything they want in their EULA but it's up to a court to decide if it's illegal or not, and that's why people are outraged about it.

This shit btw is exactly why EULA's and other shrinkwrap contracts aren't considered binding contracts in the EU. Because Nintendo is by far not the first company to abuse them.

You mean all the people with money

No it's creators in general.

because only a retard would support 150 year long copyright laws.

Thing is, if you're a creator it's literally harmless.
If you're someone who can't think then it's the worst thing in the world since you can't make money off of someone elses idea. By the by you probably have some kind of copyright on something you've posted online.

You get something that shouldn't be admissible in court, because the patents weren't finalized yet?

Not how patents work, while you don't own it until it's published the protection is retroactive to the filing date for obvious reasons. That being that you obviously filed it officially and there's evidence of it existing before the infringing material.

but they still won by bleeding Bleem dry with excessive court costs and bankrupting them.

But not the way you claimed with a single case being extended. That also means that if all the cases were clear cut for bleem Sony would have 100% wasted all of their money and bleem would still exist more.

This is the sad fact of the matter, Nintendo is free to stomp on and fuck any and all consumers over this and the only way they will really stop is when they fuck over and stomp enough consumers that a class action lawsuit happens, and the current administration is trying to do away with those altogether.

and the current administration is trying to do away with those altogether.

Why?

You should be asking for a source not why.

You mean all the people with money

No it's creators in general.

Wrong. At the time, the major IP industry was fighting against the Sonny Bono act.
sfgate.com/news/article/Free-Mickey-Stanford-Law-Professor-seeks-to-2767007.php
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eldred_v._Ashcroft
You just don't know about it because they lost, not because there weren't creators opposing it. The creators opposing it were textbook manufacturers who couldn't use proper attributions to things that were 100 years old at the time, colleges of art, copyright lawyers.

nternet publisher Eric Eldred was the lead petitioner, and was joined by a group of commercial and non-commercial interests who relied on the public domain for their work (including Dover Publications) and many amici including the Free Software Foundation, the American Association of Law Libraries, the Bureau of National Affairs, and the College Art Association. Eldred was represented by Lawrence Lessig and a team at the Berkman Center for Internet and Society.[1]

You just don't know about it because you have a surface level understanding of the topic and haven't done any real research into it. You would rather live in a fantasy land believing that it's not a pyramid scheme held up by money.

No it's creators in general.

Then these people are filthy hypocrites, since more than half of them constantly leech from public domain. They have no right to talk about preserving IPs.

Thing is, if you're a creator it's literally harmless.

Unless you want to make a video game involving any idea that's been copyrighted or patented in the past 100 years. Can't make a game about jumping, catching monsters, flying, using vehicles, driving a taxi, having arrows in your UI, having a UI period, or anything that corporations have pre-emptively patented. Please tell me, what good did it do for Namco to patent minigames on loading screens, when they never used it themselves? Did the nemesis system being patented ever benefit the industry?

Not how patents work, while you don't own it until it's published the protection is retroactive to the filing date for obvious reasons.

So again, they don't have to reveal it to anyone, and can patent anything they want, and then sue people they don't like. And you don't see a problem with this.

That also means that if all the cases were clear cut for bleem Sony would have 100% wasted all of their money and bleem would still exist more.

But Bleem still died because sony could just keep pushing them through the ringer for no reason.

But you're really interested in legitimate discussing. You're just shitposting. Let me guess, you're gonna call me a brown third worlder too, aren't you? Maybe you'll argue that piracy is always bad no matter what, and that you shouldn't be allowed to alter a company's product without permission.

Why are people who aren't even consumers (pirates) preemptively complaining about a console they don't even own or intend to buy in the first place, and most importantly, making an outrage of this when it's been like that ever since consoles from competitors have had online? Why the fuck would you connect your modded console to Nintendo's servers in the first place? What kind of retard would do that?

I believe anything that orange wackjob would do at this point.

only in America, fortunately I live in Australia and our consumer laws are too strong for you to fuck with - Steam learned that the hard way.

Please keep in mind, according to patent law, you don't have to create something to own the patent. You just have to be the first person TO patent it. So a company can literally steal your idea out from under you, if you're too slow to rush to the patent office.

Class Actions are incredibly damaging to corporations
calaborlaw.com/us-supreme-court-says-class-actions-can-be-banned/
But looking again, it started as a California supreme court decision that hasn't made its way up the chain yet.

Because I miss playing games on real hardware, and I want to protect the people in my family who do buy games from nintendo.

In theory, in legal theory, any and all prior art is a death sentence for patents and patent law. That's just not the practical theory because money speaks louder than words, and it only takes one clerk at the patent office to grant something that is so ubiquitous as to be practically public domain. see Xerox's patent on printers that was used as a weapon against network printing for almost 30 years, each time being renewed so it didn't expire.

Why are people who aren't even consumers (pirates)

Why are you assuming I'm a pirate and what fucking right do you have to tell me that II shouldn't care about Nintendo doing the ultimate corporate cuck move?

Tractors and game consoles are completely different things.

Are you a pirate?

more like snitch LMAO

Unless you want to make a video game involving any idea that's been copyrighted or patented in the past 100 years

NTA but... Just don't?
You don't have to make a sonic game to have a platformer and you don't have to make a mechanic the exact same way to use that concept.
You're just proving that it's only an issue to people who can't create.

Can't make a game about jumping, catching monsters, flying, using vehicles, driving a taxi, having arrows in your UI, having a UI period, or anything that corporations have pre-emptively patented.

Copyright and patents don't get in the way of this. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of how IP law works.

If you use any Nintendo products at all, you wave your rights to sue Nintendo.
Nintendo can do no wrong!

youtube.com/watch?v=h4fj4UXdWeA

How and why? They're both complex machines that you should have complete ownership of once you buy. And frustratingly they both connect to the internet now.

damn tendies are not a cultist level yet, please nintendo increase the console price, I want even more unhinged tendies

So does posting this every day raise your rank in the anti-Nintendo cult?

Why are you assuming I'm a pirate

Gee I wonder why you would be upset at this, then.

muh homebrew

Awesome, then you don't need to connect to nintendo's services if you're purely modding your console for homebrewing and shouldn't be worried.

I shouldn't care about Nintendo doing the ultimate corporate cuck move?

Okay then, why do you care so much?

You don't have to make a sonic game to have a platformer and you don't have to make a mechanic the exact same way to use that concept.

Tell that to Palworld. Nintendo is just pulling random patents out of their ass to try and destroy them, just because their game got a little too popular.

Copyright and patents don't get in the way of this. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of how IP law works.

If that was true, then Nintendo wouldn't try to shut down Palworld. If it really was JUST about the patents, then Nintendo would only ask them to remove the infringing mechanics, and let the rest of the game stay. Is Nintendo doing that?

Palworld is unoriginal, but it is unambiguously a product that people want and that wouldn't have been made without the effort of it's creators. The only way to violate IP law is by creating something.

Complete ownership doesn't entitle you to downloading free shit because you hacked the game console and can pull ROMs from a website.

How and why?

Tractors are a necessity, game consoles are not.

but PALWORLD though! LEAVE THE MULTIMILLION COMPANY ALONE!

Just don't 1:1 rip off patented concepts from other companies and proudly admit to doing it multiple times, and make your own, simple as.

Why are you equating all modification with piracy?

Why can't the free market decide which product deserves to live? Why does the government need to even intervene?

Also don't openly brag about being a pirate and modding your system.

The world was better when nintendo got away with a 1:1 rip off.

defending nintendo, who are notrious copyright law abusers

show me your nose!

So if I legally buy a game first, then I mod it and change it as much as I want, right? Including a complete decryption of the encrypted files. It's my product, I paid you for it, you no longer get a say.

nintendo also ripped off the contractors they paid to do the coding for the original donkey kong, and only paid up after they got sued.

LEAVE THE POOR MULTIMILLION COMPANY ALONE! LET THEM BREAK THE LAW IN PEACE!

lol

Sure, just don't let Nintendo see it.

Nintendo isn't gonna brick someone for fixing a D-Pad, this is only going to affect someone trying to jailbreak it.

let them break the law in peace

When tyranny becomes law, disobedience becomes duty.

Why are you defending Universal Studios? They shouldn't be the only people allowed to make media about giant apes.

Piratefags seem to think they're moral crusaders or part of a cause when they specifically go after Nintendo for some

finally, someone gets it.

then I mod it and change it as much as I want, right? Including a complete decryption of the encrypted files.

The DMCA (and equivalent laws in most first world countries) says it's illegal, unfortunately. And Nintendo doesn't have a say in this, I'm afraid.
Feel free to do it, but make sure people don't know ;) (this of course also includes not connecting your console to Nintendo servers like a retard).

Cry about it macaco
You still got raped n gaped thoughbeit

Dont worry, I hate all corporations equally. I'm the guy that posted Nintendo aren't as bad as Monsanto or Disney, but they're still abusing the law for their own ends.

Why shouldn't I be able to jailbreak it? The crime is piracy, so why are you trying to move the line to enclose more? What if I just want to play the BotW multiplayer mod? Or run PC exclusive games on my switch?

The mole that keeps its head down doesn't get whacked.

The DMCA (and equivalent laws in most first world countries) says it's illegal,

Why? I bought a product, shouldn't I be able to modify it?

Is it really that hard to not be a racist, homophobic, sexist, transphobic incel?

Yeah, it is.

Watch out we've got fucking Robespierre in here.

Cry about it macaco, you still got raped n gaped tho
And stop samefagging and ban evading

Sure, just don't tell anyone and stay offline.

Why indeed! But why are you asking me? I don't make the law, I'm just informing you.

the biggest rat eats the most cheese

you actually can't sign away your consumer rights, any agreement that would revoke them is invalid. At least in the EU

Just don't share it online and you're good.

You file share it and your engaging in piracy.

Tell that to Palworld.

You mean the game that made by a company that admits that they just replicate what other games do?
You know the point was that it's not an issue for people who create right? Palworld is the worst example for you since it's not like they tried to do something different they just copied several patented methods.
What's even funnier is that with the throwing mechanic they had a non-infringing version in craftopia so had they used that and in the case of gliding just added vertical control, they would have been fine.

If that was true, then Nintendo wouldn't try to shut down Palworld

What. They aren't telling them to shut down palworld.
pocketpair.jp/news/20241108
On pocketpair's own site they say that they're just looking for 10m yen which is just under 70k dollars.
If they wanted them to shut down the game why would pocket pair, a company that already tried to pull the

oh sorry we jussa smarr indie compnee!

card not have that there?

This is why modern Anon Babble is so awful, you people just get angry without knowing what you're even getting angry about.

Wouldn't it be enough that Nintendo doesn't allow you to connect to their servers?

i will always fight for the right to modify products you purchased, but for once I can agree that you shouldn't freely share them online.

Wont work in yuropoorland.
All this shkt must be signed before the purchase there, otherwise its null and void and grounds for exceptionally big fines

B-but what if nintendo just pays--

Ask apple how that went for them and their chargers. Not to mention repeated offenses dont end at fines, and ninty aint gonna lose like a third of their cusromers worldwide.

Wait, wasn't this always the case? I remember that they did stuff like this back in the Wii days.

Why can't the free market decide which product deserves to live?

Because if you didn't notice the free market is made up of people who are very easily manipulated. That's why you're here defending palworld.

you must let me modify your OS/game despite me having agreed to terms of use that explicitly prohibit this due to people being able to exploit those modifications to pirate games or cheat online, and you must let me connect and use your service on top of that

i swear that i'm a good boy though, i would never do that!

hmmm no

We need a better system for applying patches to roms. As it is now, doing things the legal way is incredibly difficult.

You mean the game that made by a company that admits that they just replicate what other games do?

And they should be allowed to. They didn't steal any pokemon designs. They're derivative. I'm sorry if I believe that the free market should be allowed to dictate whether they live or not. Millions of people clearly liked the game, so why should they suffer because Nintendo got jealous?

Because if you didn't notice the free market is made up of people who are very easily manipulated.

Demonstrated by your post, where you show an almost-religious level of reverence to the government, as if they're not corrupt and scummy.

sued over patent infringement

muh pokemon designs

you don't even know what you're talking about

yield

It's clear that's why Nintendo is going after them. They hate that Palworld is siphoning the "cute monsters fight eachother" genre, but can't get them on a copyright violation, so they're going for the frivolous patent angle instead.

They never do.

Why is demand for bootlegs bad? It isn't a sign of market manipulation, it's evidence that there is genuine demand for bootlegs. Demand that is unserved in legal markets,

have fun playing it in 15 years

It's clear that's why Nintendo is going after them

It's clear that you're a retard.

those patents can be used to sue games like half-life let alone monster catchers.

Ah yes, not worshipping corporations makes someone a retard.

not worshipping corporations makes someone a retard.

No. Comparing apples to oranges like you did above does makes you a retard, on the other hand.

It's clear that's why Nintendo is going after them

Yeah, because they're a company known for shamelessly stealing and everyone hated them for it long before Nintendo was involved.

They hate that Palworld is siphoning the "cute monsters fight eachother" genre,

No, palworld is very very low on the rung in that regard, they have to get past Digimon, yugioh, DQ, magic and whatever elses merch sales and cultural relevance to get within a stones throw of pokemon and they're already at Yokai Watch tiers irrelevance with the lawsuit being the only thing keeping them in the public eye.

You're literally blindly defending a corporate entity in pocketpair to the point where you're disregarding reality to replace it with your own.

irrelevent

still getting sued

damn, nintendo are bigger fags than I thought

No, they can't. You don't know what you're talking about. Patents can't be vague, if you read in an article or a Anon Babble thread that "nintendo patented flying!" then you're a gullible retard. Make your own research.

irrelevent

>still getting sued

It's almost as if theft doesn't care about how popular you aren't.

Yeah, because they're a company known for shamelessly stealing and everyone hated them for it long before Nintendo was involved.

And yet they made a game that tons of people enjoy. Why shouldn't they be allowed to exist? By your logic I could hate Nintendo for constantly shitting on people because they want to enjoy mods and romhacks for games. guess they're also bad, by your logic.

No, palworld is very very low on the rung in that regard,

Then Nintendo could've just let them die off and that would've been the end of it. To sue them over something so petty means that clearly they felt threatened.

To be honest, I'm not even a big fan of Palworld, but I hate Nintendo's legal shenanigans more.

Patents can't be vague

are you kidding?

install hack on hardware

system update rolls out

update like a retard

system ends up bricked

WHAT THE FUCK NINTENDO, YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO SUPPORT MY MODS.

why are modern day pirates all such pussies?

just like nintendo v universal
good thing universal won and stopped those thieves!
oh wait...

Show me the vague patent that Nintendo is using to "patent troll" Pocketpair, and do make sure to highlight in what way it's vague.

I'm not even a big fan of Palworld, but I hate Nintendo's legal shenanigans more.

That's even worse. You literally have no reason to suck their cock but you're doing it anyway.

Show me the vague patent

show me ANY patent not written in legalese

It's almost as if I despise any corporation abusing the legal system. Hell, I'd defend a literal thief over any corporate scumbag.

I despise any corporation abusing the legal system

corporate scumbag

Why are you here defending Pocketpair then? lol

Because pocketpair hasn't abused the legal system yet.

Ahh so they want to be like apple and tesla

If I was, then maybe it's because they're NOT throwing around frivolous lawsuits.

And yet they made a game that tons of people enjoy

Okay? And? What does that have to do with anything? It doesn't change the fact that they're looked down upon. In fact their public option worsened with just about everywhere other than America calling them out for what they're doing.

Why shouldn't they be allowed to exist?

It could exist, had they actually put the effort in to be original which isn't that hard but they chose not to. They chose to steal and attempt to manipulate people.
It's karmic justice that they're being sued.

Then Nintendo could've just let them die off and that would've been the end of it.

No because the problem is that they're still stealing from other games, their next game is literally a hollow knight rip off.
You can't just expect people to learn what they're doing is wrong is they aren't punished for it.

To sue them over something so petty means that clearly they felt threatened.

No because like is said, they don't matter. They were never a threat especially after the announcement of ZA.
They're just the epitome of a scummy company. One that you should hate but somehow don't despite not even being a fan by your own admission.

implying stealing from other games because you know there's no copyright/patent on them. Isn't a burning the system.

dont do anything illegal, thus nit breaking the ToS I signed up for

nothing happens to my console

Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.

So you're defending them precisely because they're an evil company

ripping off other companies's work doesn't count as being a scumbag or abusing the legal system

ok

tell that to universal studios
return monke

In fact their public option worsened with just about everywhere other than America calling them out for what they're doing.

You mean corporate bootlickers hate them? Wtf I thought you said they were supposed to be bad

It could exist, had they actually put the effort in to be original which isn't that hard but they chose not to.

Then pray tell, what IS original?

their next game is literally a hollow knight rip off.

You didn't care when Nine Sols did it, why bring it up now?

They're just the epitome of a scummy company.

And yet they're less scummy than Nintendo, who throws around lawsuits willy nilly.

Then Nintendo should pay reparations to Universal, since they stole the concept of King Kong for their Mario game.

but what about [irrelevant shit]

ok

can't return monke

your days are numbered nintendo!!!

p-pay reparations!

Universal Studios should just sue Nintendo for those reparations then. They won't, of course.

the coffee wasn't any hotter than others at the time

Wrong. At least look up the facts, retard.

stealing is okay as long as you're a big corporation who can bribe judges

universal studios is less litigious than nintendo

burgers rise...

throws around lawsuits willy nilly

That's just your opinion, man. Who the fuck do you think you are?

Someone who isn't a big corporation, and thus sees no use in frivolous lawsuits and copyright laws?

Nintendo manchildren love taking it up the ass for nintendo.

Universal already did, and Nintendo won. That's why Nintendo winning when they sue other people in the same way Universal did is so wrong. Nintendo was able to become great because they grew under a better legal framework, and now that they're big they've decided to contribute to destroying that framework where people who create things are protected from companies resting on their past successes.

I mean yeah, updating your modded console would brick it, that was pretty common knowledge. If you were retarded enough to update your modded Wii, you deserved to get bricked. That's also why Priiloader was a thing, and why guides always tell you to make a backup before modding your Wii.

stealing

Prove it.

frivolous

But it's not frivolous. That's just your opinion. Prove that it's frivolous with facts.

why are modern day pirates all such pussies?

Wait, so you're advocating that corporations be able to remotely disable products that you've bought? Would you defend Microsoft locking your computer permanently too?
Do you think NVidia should have the right to decide that your RTX4080 should stop working tomorrow? Or that Logitech should remotely disable your keyboard?

prove it

Then you can't steal the concept of an idea, so Palworld stole nothing. Nice self-own, genius.

Don't like it? Just buy another switch :^))))))))))

you can't steal the concept of an idea

Correct.

Palworld stole nothing

We aren't talking about stealing "things" here.
They infringed on Nintendo's patents by copying the implementation 1:1, and that's why they're being sued. And they ripped off other companies too.
You can keep playing on words and trying to muddle things up, it's not working.

sure, I already got one pre-ordered but I'll get another one

You mean corporate bootlickers hate them?

Oh no, they love them. I mean you're defending them with your life right now while normal people with integrity hate them.

what IS original?

Simple answer, new.
A new method
A new theme
A new style
An innovative way of doing a mechanic
None of which can be used to describe their games since they all have mechanics, styles and themes are all taken from other games.

You didn't care when Nine Sols did it,

Does this look like hollow knight?

why bring it up now?

The point is to show that they just don't care, they're only in it for the money. They don't even care enough about their players to make the minute changes needed to keep the game the same.

who throws around lawsuits willy nilly.

Nah, theft is considerably more scummy than defending your property. Would you call someone who shot a burglar scummy?

Why is infringing on patents wrong? Nothing is stolen, nothing is destroyed. None of nintendo's or nintendo's employee's rights are violated when someone infringes on their patents.

Yes, and the solution is surprisingly easy - don't purchase the product. I know this sounds crazy, but you actually don't *need* the latest bing bing wahoo machine. Maybe wait the initial two weeks after release and download the inevitable Switch 2 emulator, then directly take money from Nintendo's fat pockets while not contributing to anti-consumer business practices. Simple, right?

Yeah be rich and take them to court, otherwise not really

Why is infringing on patents wrong?

Why don't you answer your own disingenuous question and ask your favorite LLM? Have fun!

Revolutionizing the world is more important than you making money.

I'm not going to bother with "revolutionizing" the world then. Good luck with your unproductive parasite friends who only know how to copy!

you, cancer medication gets this treatment and generics can't enter the market, which in turn kills people

yeah but they're poor

-1 pairs of hands is bad for everyone

They did

They did not, or else they wouldn't have gotten sued for patent infringement, and then remove said infringing implementations from their own games.

Ah sorry, I didn't know that researching and creating cancer medication was free in your little utopia. You should've said so beforehand! Then I'd have dismissed your retardation immediately.

I'm not going to bother with "revolutionizing" the world then.

Then you're the parasite because you can't understand the concept of doing something, just for the sake of helping people. all you care about is money.

inventing the wheel isn't original, because Mr. Willy Wheel patented the concept first, so all carriages and motorized vehicles must be destroyed for infringing on his design

If it wasn't for greedy corps, we wouldn't need cancer medication. We'd have a CURE.

literally nobody said this
calm down

just for the sake of helping people

fucking kek this guy is living with the carebears or something

fuck people for having basic human compassion, and doing things just for the sake of art or helping others

why can't they be obsessed with profit like me?

Nintendo has stated that the entire system may become inaccessible. There was nothing like this before, which is why the new TOS made headlines.

How do you suggest companies fund their cancer medication research if literally anybody can make medication?

Nobody. I guess the inventor is wrong, not morally but strategically since if he wanted to make profit on it, he should've been first to market, leaving his competitors to reverse engineer it.

I'm saying we should do nothing about people making games that pull ideas from others, your the one saying we should fine them and give the cease and desist orders. The burden of proof is on you.

Violating IP law is not wrong because it doesn't violate anyone's natural rights. It doesn't physically harm anyone, it doesn't enslave anyone, it doesn't damage or remove the physical property of anyone, it doesn't deceive anyone.

eryc

I'm only defending the freedom of the market

Except you aren't, you're defending the stagnation of the market by putting more value on cutting corners and theft rather than effort and originality.
If you were defending the free market you would be defending the rights of the creator to own their creations.

to not be hampered by unnecessary government regulations.

Then you should be for IP law. It's for creators allowing them to create unhindered and safely without any risks.

People with integrity would despise all corporations and all copyright law.

You're saying that while not only defending a corporation but the act of undermining creators and their efforts. You clearly have no integrity.

Sounds innovative to me

So gameplay predominantly lifted from ark with mechanics lifted from pokemon with a newgrounds meets peta parody theme sounds original to you?
Everything in it was done somewhere else.

So wanting to make money is bad?

Without putting the effort in, yes. The phrase "don't work, don't eat" exists for a reason.

Then Nintendo should stop charging money for their video games and release them for free.

Sure, when they start stealing.

That's an obscenely stupid concept.

And you would only think that if you you're hopelessly uncreative.

I thought gatekeeping was heckin based though?

by selling medication
shocking

but muh startup costs

literally everyone has to get a loan or investors stop being retarded

he should've been first to market, leaving his competitors to reverse engineer it.

Anon, that's LITERALLY what he said.

They're certainly not funding cancer medication in the current system, that's for damn sure.

haha sorry goy, you need to pay us 50,000,000 dollars so we can blast you with dangerous radiation for 10 years

it also only has a 5% chance of working

we also shut down and arrested anyone who could make a viable alternative, it could've cost us profits :)))))

Maybe we should just buy the Switch 2 games instead of pirating them.
I never cared for Switch piracy because you cant use features like Miis or Nintendo accounts with an emulator.

Or perhaps, someone will probably either deliberately brick their console or stage it somehow for the sake of giving them a reason to seethe about it in a thread.

then why did people buy Palworld?

That's like asking why people pay for gacha when they can buy a real game.

Well Goldman Sachs, curing patients is not a sustainable business model, but inventing cures is. Crowdfund your research with the promise that the research will be released publicly when complete, then rack in the cash checking off each cure, snowballing your reputation with miraculous successes promoting more people to support your labs. Let some other fool take on the job of selling the cures while you rake in the dough for discovering them.

Well if he spent three years in development, didn't publish his designs, and it still was copied immediately, he was a hack for spending 3 years in R&D when his competitors got it done in under a month. He should probably find a new career.

Except you aren't, you're defending the stagnation of the market by putting more value on cutting corners and theft rather than effort and originality.

I disagree. Derivatives have been much more fun than the """"""original"""""" works. If you ask me. Look at Terraria. It's blatantly derivative of Minecraft, and yet it's also ten times more fun.

If you were defending the free market you would be defending the rights of the creator to own their creations.

Only if they can defend it by themselves. No government intervention allowed.

Then you should be for IP law

Not if the government is involved.

You're saying that while not only defending a corporation but the act of undermining creators and their efforts

You deserve to have your work undermined if a game like Palworld is such a threat. If it's not a threat, then shut up and don't sue them.

So gameplay predominantly lifted from ark with mechanics lifted from pokemon with a newgrounds meets peta parody theme sounds original to you?

Can you name another game like it?

Everything in it was done somewhere else.

The EXACT same argument could be used for modern Zelda, and yet fans will say "but nintendo put it all together at once, that makes it original".

Without putting the effort in, yes.

Did the game just magically come out of thin air?

And you would only think that if you you're hopelessly uncreative.

More so that I've been a part of many communities, and have willingly donated my time and work making romhacks and mods and custom maps, never asking for money. It was just nice to share my work with people.

Nintent tho?

Violating IP law is not wrong because it doesn't violate anyone's natural rights. It doesn't physically harm anyone, it doesn't enslave anyone, it doesn't damage or remove the physical property of anyone, it doesn't deceive anyone.

You don't get to decide what natural rights are. I am absolutely entitled to the fruits of my own labor, for once, it can be something that I invented and was the result of my own work and research, which themselves are the fruit of the time I spent in education, for example, adn there is no reason for you to profit from it for free if I so decide it. It does not have to be "physical" at all, that's an extremely narrow-minded way of seeing it.

Then make it better then what they could offer

Then they steal it again and your efforts are wasted and you're down even more time and money.
The only solution would be to find work where your efforts can't be stolen, which would just be basic construction, retail, factory work, and so on.

OMG MY COUSIN CAME TO VISIT AND HACKED MY SWITCH 2

more carebears shit. what is going to happen is that your competitors will release the medication for cheaper than you and you will not sell shit. great business model there, champ.

People should have the right. I hate gacha too, but I'm not gonna demand laws outlawing it. Maybe I'd restrict it to people who are old enough, but if the whales are stupid enough to throw away their money, let them.

I am absolutely entitled to the fruits of my own labor,

Then why do you demand that the government protect your "fruits" when I have no say in the matter? You're using my tax dollars to defend your fruit, you thief.

Then they steal it again

Sounds like you're not trying hard enough. Skill issue.

people will receive life saving medication at lower prices

NOOOOOOO!!!! SOMEONE STOP THEM!

Then why do you demand that the government protect your "fruits" when I have no say in the matter?

What, do you think he's going to go house by house with a baseball bat across the world to defend his ideas?

If you truly wanted to protect your idea, you'd put in that effort.

I would come protect my "fruits" myself with a bat to your head but the government protects you from me doing just that. In exchange, the government protects me from you being a little jewish faggot profiting off someone else's work.

You did not address the main point: how are you going to fund it. You dismissed it earlier with "lol just get a loan ;)" but that won't fly with bank jews.

Intentionally create obstacles to repair, causing otherwise functional devices to become unusable

Wait isn't that what Nintendo is doing with this scheme to brick systems if they think you're pirating games?

you're being intentionally extreme but that's how patents are defended today, the patent holder has to show that they're willing to go to court whenever the patent is being infringed or its a display to the patent system that the patent holder no longer cares about defending it

yes, yes, nintendo shills, more, more, give me more excuses defending the mega corporation.

Intentionally create obstacles to repair

You aren't "repairing" anything when you mod your console for homebrew (lol) or piracy purposes, though.

I would come protect my "fruits" myself with a bat to your head

So you'd murder someone just because they copied some 1's and 0's. I dunno, all these accusations of others being jews, and yet you're literally licking your lips at the idea of murdering people over some infringed patents.

I didn't invent natural law theory. You're only property rights are things which you have exclusive control over either by claiming it from nature or a consensual agreement with a previous owner, you don't have property rights over anything that's "The fruits of your own labor". Imagine building a sandcastle on a beach someone else owns, and then getting mad when they flatten it after you leave. Or being one of those tourists that attaches love locks to famous bridges. You do not have exclusive control over thoughts and ideas, so there is no property rights over them.

Also that's a double standard. Why is the fruit of your labor doing the reasearch protected of the fruit of the labor from the man studying your work and replicating it? He's putting work in to create something too.

That actually happened a fair bit during the banwaves in the Wii and early 3DS era
None of you fucks cared because even then Anon Babble never plays any games and only talks about eceleb and twitter shit

are you fucking retarded? you would get arrested instantly and no one would give a fuck.

Shut up the fuck snoyfag
POORFAG
POORFAG
POORFAG

Did you read what I said? The plan is to do medical R&D elusively with no intent do go to market yourself. You won't sell shit because that's not the plan, you're trying to market your research directly to the general public using tactics similar to a patreon scam.

what is hyperbole

He's putting work in to create something too.

Nope. You said it yourself, he's replicating it.

Fuck off tranny faggot, rope yourself

Ever since the hack this site has become more than ever just bots and Babel Media shills.
This place fucking sucks now.

Yes.

I want people to protect my ideas from infringement

but I also want to go around and murder people

The corporations aren't sending their best.

How much would it cost you to make a replica of any object that's on your desk right now? How much time and effort would it take? Replication is work.

you're trying to market your research directly to the general public using tactics similar to a patreon scam.

And like most patreon scams, this will miserably flop because you don't have anything to "market" or any modicum of proof to show to begin with. What you are suggesting is literally: "Just trust me bro ;)"
Also, how do you plan on doing "medical R&D elusively" for free without funding?

Only poorfag theives are seething at this.

I just hope there's a crack team of turboautistic programmers ready to start cracking and working on emulating the Switch 2 immediately after launch. I flatly refuse to give Nintendo a cent anymore.

object

There you go again with the physical shit.
Anyway, that would cost me far less than what it cost someone to come up with the idea and prototype it/produce it/make it popular.

Christ, stop and read this shit for a second.. this fucking retardo is actually justifying this shit, kek, by saying NIGGA YO SOUL IS ON RENT TOO YAKNOW
Holy fucking shit what kind of shitslurping faggot ass are you, are all tendies pic related for real

why should the government waste my money on protecting subhumans?

Good question. I wouldn't waste my money protecting subhumans who think patent infringement is some horrible crime.

Keep hoping, because pirate moralfag vegans scared all of them off now that nintendo started making moves at them
enjoy your emulator forks that only change icon colors to the pride flag.

you bought a license, you don't own nuthin goy

YOU HAVE TO LET ME PIRATE AND CHEAT HOW DARE YOU STOP ME

Look at Terraria. It's blatantly derivative of Minecraft, and yet it's also ten times more fun.

So you agree with me. Terraria is an original idea taking the novelty of Minecraft and adapting it to a 2d environment with new mechanics suited to it.
Im starting to see your problem, you can't separate the idea of "derivative" and the idea of "copy" and you're under the assumption that they're the same thing.

Only if they can defend it by themselves

Yeah okay they just have to band together, lobby to make some kind of registration office, lobby for some legal defences and oh wait that's literally what we have.

Not if the government is involved.

You can't have regulation without a government someone needs to enforce it or it's about as useful as an unsupervised "wet concrete do not touch" when kids are around.

If it's not a threat, then shut up and don't sue them.

How many times do you have to be told that it's not about being a threat?

Can you name another game like it?

Ark Survival Evolved and Pokemon Legends Arceus, the two games that served as inspiration for it.

The EXACT same argument could be used for modern Zelda,

Then make the argument instead of just saying you can. But you won't because all you can do is be as reductive as possible claiming that a genre makes a game the same.
You can't even use the ubisoft towers argument because they function differently.

Did the game just magically come out of thin air?

Putting together things other people made isn't putting effort in, it's theft.

More so that I've been a part of many communities, and have willingly donated my time and work making romhacks and mods and custom maps, never asking for money. It was just nice to share my work with people.

So you just took other people's work and shuffled it around and wear your laziness on your sleeve.

just don't put the console online if you're gonna mess with it
pretty simple

Yeah, a lot of people who attempt it will flop by having no results, but the same is true for research under the current model. If you do get results and summarize your research progress and what you're attempting each month, people who care enough will be motivated to support you. Medicine is one of the best fields to do this in too because people who have the condition and their friends or family will by highly motivated to take interest in research.

But there are still Switch emulators anon.

If you do get results and summarize your research progress

How do you research something as complex as "cancer medication" without any kind of funding? Start by explaining that first.

How much would it cost you to make a replica of any object that's on your desk right now?

I have a mini clamp on my desk right now.
If I replace the metal it's made out of I could make it of mostly wood for.... Free with what I have.

How much time and effort would it take?

Probably about five minutes, 10 if I'm procrastinating.

Replication isn't work.

this single image annihilates all consolekeks and anti-steam cucks

what if his asshole has viruses

Yes, it would cost you less. That's a good thing. The first mover shouldn't keep his advantage forever, eventually all products should be reduced to their lowest possible price so as much of society as possible can enjoy the benefit of the product.

The same is true for games even though the lowest possible price is just the bandwidth costs.

class action

You waived that right by buying a Nintendo console.

mentally you'll what?
but seriously who are you talking about

Yes, and? The "maintainers" of those emulators sure as hell aren't working on anything more complex that UI-related shit and certainly not on a topic as involved as actual emulation programming. Plus this time there isn't any documentation to use. Finally, explain how you intend on decrypting Switch 2 roms in the first place without the private keys.

So you agree with me. Terraria is an original idea

Actually, by your logic it's theft because Minecraft patented the idea of mining square blocks. Lawsuit when?

Yeah okay they just have to band together

I know where you're going with this. You're using my tax dollars without my permission. Just like when you wage wars over seas just for oil and land. I never got a say in this, you thief.

You can't have regulation without a government

Taxation without representation is theft.

How many times do you have to be told that it's not about being a threat?

You're crying about lost profit, when Pokemon consistently breaks sales records. You have no evidence of any harm being done other than "PALWORLD ARE BEING MEANIES :(((("

Ark Survival Evolved and Pokemon Legends Arceus, the two games that served as inspiration for it.

Ark doesn't have pokemon to catch, and Pokemon doesn't have guns and shooting. Looks like Palworld is original by merit of combining the two.

Then make the argument instead of just saying you can.

Every zelda fan has made this argument since 2017. You'd have to argue with them.

You can't even use the ubisoft towers argument because they function differently.

The same can be said of Palworld's mechanics.

Putting together things other people made isn't putting effort in, it's theft.

i guess Zelda is guilty of theft, then. Other games had open worlds and ubisoft towers. Doing things differently doesn't matter.

So you just took other people's work and shuffled it around and wear your laziness on your sleeve.

Yep, guilty as charged. Just like when someone takes a popular song and makes a remix of it, or samples another song in their own. Odd how you're okay with those.

Same way you start any business, you're going to have to make a sales pitch to investors, or start it from your own seed money that you have from another venture. Once you get started, then you can market and get contributions.

Did they make those patents public back in 2021/22?

Wood is a more expensive material than plastic, and you'd need a spring. I don't buy that it's easy for you to make one yourself with spare materials, but even if you can, you're still far away from being able to take your replication to market.

The first mover shouldn't keep his advantage forever,

Are you under the assumption that with every person who copies it would get cheaper and cheaper or something?

eventually all products should be reduced to their lowest possible price so as much of society as possible can enjoy the benefit of the product.

Bold of you to assume that the person copying isn't just going to put it at the lowest possible price from the start because they're already making more of a profit on it.

Hello, (((merchant))).

Good luck making a sales pitch to investors with your idea of not intending to make money on the product (which means no return on their investment for those investors).

you must let me rip your idea off for free!

Hello, (((merchant))).

Bold of you to assume that the person copying isn't just going to put it at the lowest possible price from the start because they're already making more of a profit on it.

Works for me. You will make the price lower for my benefit. Or I'll go elsewhere. What you want is a government enforced monopoly where they can charge as much as they want, regardless of item quality.

Your switch isn't yours

Neither are the pirates games

New gen of pirates are a bunch of spergs who think no one is supposed to be able to touch them. It's why they're a bunch of loud faggots who brag about what has always been an open secret and wonder why publishers are coming down harder on them.

Why are Nintendo fans in particular such domesticated bootlickers?

How can they brick my console if it's not connected to the internet?
Does mr. nintendo send someone to my house to do it?

Not intending to make money on the product

Where did you get that? I never said you should do it as a non profit. I'm saying the profit should come from taking a cut from contributions, rather than trying to make it from the patent at the end.

Why would anyone donate to you when they could donate to someone who's not taking a cut off the top

Because you've made the promise not to patent your research, so that any progress you make on the cure is something that people can actually use.

Looks like he won.

Name one thing wrong with cheating in a single player game.

Are you under the assumption that with every person who copies it would get cheaper and cheaper or something?

Someone who attempts to copy it and isn't able to make it cheaper isn't going to take their replication to market.

Bold of you to assume that the person copying isn't just going to put it at the lowest possible price from the start because they're already making more of a profit on it.

I am assuming that they're going to do that. Getting the same product for cheaper is a good thing.

The first mover shouldn't keep his advantage forever, eventually

Take a wild guess at what kind of legal tool achieves just that by temporarily protecting the first mover's advantage. Hint: it starts with a P.

By having laws that make sure to give consumers rights

Meanwhile Americans just voted for the party that not only wants to repeal such laws, but is gutting the regulatory agencies who's job it is to protect consumers from bullshit corporate practices.
We honestly should be more like Europe, where their laws allow you to somewhat own your digital shit.

Didn't something like this get made up about THE 3DS back in the day? I think it's scare tactics by nintendo to scare those who mod their shit.

yes, that can happen if you update a system that has custom firmware on it, it happened all the time with the 3DS.

temporarily

Still waiting for Mickey Mouse to expire. It's been 150 years. And funny thing, unlike copyright, patents have no expiration limit. You can keep renewing forever.

Patents are unnecessary because the first mover already has an advantage just by merit of being the inventor. You don't have to enforce a patent for 20 years to make inventing profitable, you don't have to enforce it for a day. How do you think things got invented before patents?

Because pirates went from 'I steal games, deal with it' too 'DON'T CALL IT STEALING, I'M DOING IT ALL LEGALLY AND MORALLY!'

ok, what is 2+2? And no, don't say 4, I want a real answer!

Back up your nands. Simple as

You keep making up little idealized scenarios that only work in your head. That's not how real life works.

by your logic it's theft because Minecraft patented the idea of mining square blocks.

That would be your logic.
And 2d and 3d game make that a fundamentally different experience.

Lawsuit when?

As soon as you can magic a 3rd dimension into Terraria.

I know where you're going with this

You went on a complete tangent so you clearly didn't. Parry failed.

Taxation without representation is theft.

And the representation is your ability to create and utilize IP law for yourself. If you choose not to it doesn't mean you don't have those rights. It just means you're mentally deficient.

You're crying about lost profit

No one said anything about lost profit in regards to pokemon or palworld. Looks like someone's going a bit schizo and imagining conversations.

You have no evidence of any harm

Exactly, because it wasn't a threat to pokemon. The idea is that pocketpair represents the death of creativity and should be stopped for that.
It's why everyone hates them.

Ark doesn't have pokemon to catch, and Pokemon doesn't have guns and shooting.

It's almost as if palworld takes the guns from ark and the capturing from pokemon to make a very unoriginal game.
You're probably going to say, "what about Terraria" and well, as soon as you remove a dimension from Palworld we'll talk.

Every zelda fan has made this argument since 2017.

And yet you can't recall any.

The same can be said of Palworld's mechanics.

The problem being that the mechanics in Palworld function 1 to 1 with both ark and Pokemon where the towers don't for example ubi towers show everything, new quests, landmarks, secrets etc, while Zelda shows nothing other than the topography everything else you find on your own.

i guess Zelda is guilty of theft, then

As soon as you can find a patented method that's exactly the same in an existing game. But of course you won't.

Odd how you're okay with those.

Never mentioned them. So that's a consession on your part for this point

Why do you say that? Star wars made a return on it's production costs with just it's first release. We can measure how long it takes for things to breakeven, and how long it takes to replicate inventions.

Do you think society just didn't function before the invention of modern copyright? If we go back to rome and ancient greece, they had a system to protect original ideas, BUT IT CERTAINLY DIDN'T LAST 150 YEARS.

Stop conflating copyright and patents. We're talking about patents.

copyright is as old as the printing press.
Before that, trade guilds had total monopolies on all industries, literally outlawing anybody from copying them by preventing them from doing anything at all.

you purchased

Lol, Im going to pirate and tell all my friends to do so as well. The fuck is nintendo going to do about it?

And 2d and 3d game make that a fundamentally different experience.

So you can steal an idea, as long as it's fundamentally different. Interedasting.

And the representation is your ability to create and utilize IP law for yourself.

That's not good enough. I want to stop YOU from utilizing IP law, unless you get my permission first. If you don't, you are not entitled to the police enforcing IP law, since I'm paying for them.

The idea is that pocketpair represents the death of creativity and should be stopped for that.

Only to you and Nintendo. Millions of people think the game is fun, who are you to spit on them?

everyone hates them'

Sure doesn't look like it.

It's almost as if palworld takes the guns from ark and the capturing from pokemon to make a very unoriginal game.

It combined the two, therefore it's original. show me Pokemon with guns, or ARK with pokemon, and then we'll talk theft.

The problem being that the mechanics in Palworld function 1 to 1 with both ark and Pokemon

Odd, I don't recall turn based combat in Palworld, and I don't recall sweatshops being in Pokemon. Was this a new update?

As soon as you can find a patented method that's exactly the same in an existing game.

The patent of Link riding a car, which has already been done in every single game with vehicles in the past 30 years.

that's a concession

More like you being a hypocrite.

patents have no expiration limit.

Patents have a strict 20 year limit, jackass. And by the time they expire they're useless because new and better methods are made in that thing.

Copyrights and patents are fundamentally the same thing. Just because we traded scribes for printing presses and printing presses for hardrives doesn't change that the principles behind both are the same. Copyrights and patents allow people to sell goods for significantly more than their production cost by a government granted monopoly.

Patents have a strict 20 year limit, jackass.

Which can be renewed.

Why can anyone afford insulin then? Or printer ink? Even if it was only 20 years, that's 20 years too long.

I had my coworker mod my Wii and 3ds because I was too scared to do it myself. I bought a Switch in 2018 and I'm afraid to ask him for more favors but I also can't do it myself. It's too risky.

Wood is a more expensive material than plastic,

Mdf is considerably cheaper than plastic and I could just use the material in a piece of broken wooden furniture.

and you'd need a spring

Clamps don't require springs, at all. This thing is like two screws and a washer. Which you could still replicate with wood if you turn it from a screw to a pin like method.

you're still far away from being able to take your replication to market.

I'm going to give you a picture so you understand what I'm talking about. It's a palm sized clamp.

don't buy the console

you mean like the time those pokemon games leaked early, people stupidly played them online and Nintendo bricked consoles those by permenantly cutting them off from online play, causing those very people to seethe?

Oh. Was thinking about a different kind of clamp. You probably could make fair money selling clamps like that if you're able to find buyers.

Imagine being so retarded you think that anon was shitting on anyone other than v

No no it can't. You have to renew your patent to maintain that 20 year limit but once you hit that limit that's it, you lose it.

Because you're American.

Tell that to insulin prices and printer ink.

Copyrights and patents allow people to sell goods for significantly more than their production cost by a government granted monopoly.

No, no they don't. The only thing that can do that is a legitimate monopoly, as in they have no competition from similar products.

Land of the free use by companies :^)
Meanwhile in Yuroland, this shit won't fly and they'd be raked over the coals for it.

as in they have no competition from similar products

Which is enforced by the government.

fun fact, buying a console is not the same thing as owning the software. if nintendo tells you not to modify your software or they'll brick it, there's literally nothing you can complain about if you modify your software and get it bricked.

They've literally already told you this might happen. Don't poke a dog and get mad when it bites you.

Yes it is.
The government is the only reason why real competition and not a chain of theft exists.

Which aren't expensive due to patents.

The fact that anybody would get upset about that at all is retarded and those people deserved to have their consoles disrupted. Nintendo has made it no secret that they will protect their IPs and yet people STILL get surprised when they do. Just don't buy their products if you don't agree with that.

fun fact, buying a book is not the same thing as owning the words. if Barnes & Noble tells you not to write in your book or they'll burn it, there's literally nothing you can complain about if you write in your book and get it burned.

They've literally already told you this might happen. Don't poke a dog and get mad when it bites you.

the government gunning down competitors is actually an example of free market

paying 500 dollars for a dose of insulin, when it takes 35 cents to produce it, is fine

At this point I'd side with the thieves. At least they're honest when they talk about robbing me.

Maybe don't connect your book to the internet when you've modified it. It connects to the author's servers and they can see that you've modified your book.

Of course you would.

Better a thief than a government bootlicker.

Good advice, but they still shouldn't do that. It shouldn't be legal for companies to sell me books with features, and then withhold them when I modify it.

>the government gunning down competitors is actually an example of free market

You don't compete with a copy anon, it's a copy.
Competition comes from two original ideas existing on the market.

paying 500 dollars for a dose of insulin, when it takes 35 cents to produce it, is fine

Yeah, America is pretty fucked. But that doesn't have anything to do with patents.

Why did you buy a book at Barnes and Nobles then? You agreed to it, why are you complaining?

yeah that isn't what's being targeted

That's your own opinion.

Because they have an exclusive license and I don't want to pirate the book. I'd rather support the author, but the author isn't selling their book directly.

This isn't anything new you retard, Nintendo has put killswitches on every single console since updates have been a thing, a jaibroken 3DS, Wii U or Switch will be bricked if you are stupid enough to enter Nintendo's online services with them.

You don't compete with a copy anon, it's a copy.

That's your fault. You should've made your product better so someone couldn't easily copy it. As the end user, I'm benefiting from him selling a cheaper copy. I couldn't care about you losing out.

Yeah, America is pretty fucked. But that doesn't have anything to do with patents.

America is what happens when you let patents and copyrights run rampant, letting people with money control the system. But I guess that flew over your head.

You should've made your product better so someone couldn't easily copy it.

Then you are in favor of nintendo bricking consoles, which is there to stop it ;)

Too bad then! Maybe you should try another author, or just pirate it, because they really couldn't care less about your moral crusade, and neither do the millions of other customers they have. But don't flaunt it all over town, or the police will get you.

This is ridiculous! Why can't I just buy a book and use it how I want to?

You should've made your product better so someone couldn't easily copy it

You can't. It would have to be difficult for you to produce too and you would still lose out because you spent even more time and money purposely making it different.

America is what happens when you let patents and copyrights run rampant,

And yet no other country is like that, it's almost as if patents and copyright aren't the issue.

Nintendo should put their shit on PC instead of locking it behind $450 obsolete hardware.

portbegging

lmao

You have the same problems in your own countries to lesser degrees, you just don't notice because you read our news more than your own.

And I'm in favor of jailbreaking consoles so they can't do that.

You can't.

Then your idea wasn't worth protecting in the first place. Not my problem.

And yet no other country is like that, it's almost as if patents and copyright aren't the issue.

Japan is even worse with it. People can literally go to jail for playing romhacks of video games they own. So yeah, copyright and patents are the problem.

you do own the physical hardware. you do not own the software that's installed on it. if you want to use a modified switch, then wipe all the nintendo software on it and install your own.

I'm not begging for shit. I'll simply take what I want if they continue to be retarded.

And I'm in favor of jailbreaking consoles so they can't do that.

literally condradicts what you said

absolutely begging

It is how it is. If you don't like it, become a politician and change the law. Good luck!

literally contradicts

I disagree

I accept your trooncession

Not my problem.

If it isn't your problem then you shouldn't care that copyright and patents exist. It doesn't affect you either way.

People can literally go to jail for playing romhacks of video games they own.

That's not a thing, they're just more strict on selling it.

Buying a game is buying a license to use the software. It doesn't mean you own the IP for the game. I know you retarded faggots don't believe this is true or that it should be the case, but it is and attempting to circumvent this always leaves you open for legal retribution.

When new super mario bros wii came out, it got leaked and the retard decided to widely distribute it before street date. He got royally fucked. According to you, nintendo had no right to sue that guy. Any argument you make about modding a game also applies here.

People can literally go to jail for playing romhacks of video games they own. So yeah, copyright and patents are the problem.

Sounds pretty fair, but what does this have to do with insulin and ink?

Because you don't own the software on the game cart, you just own the game cart itself. It's no more complicated than that.

If it isn't your problem then you shouldn't care that copyright and patents exist. It doesn't affect you either way.

It does because the government has no right meddling in the free market.

That's not a thing

Just like your earlier claim about how Mcdonalds was wrongfully sued and how they would never sell hot coffee to their customers? lol get out of here, you liar.

it doesn't matter if you bought the game physically, you still don't own it!

Then I guess you were full of shit when you said that digital owners owned nothing, since apparently physical owners don't own anything either.

blame the people who are against this shit

support the people that encourage it

see

Do you think that people should be banned from a game on steam when they modify it to cheat online? Don't bother, I know you're going to say they shouldn't be.

It does because the government has no right meddling in the free market.

And they don't. Creators just have protection and the free market does what it does.

Just like your earlier claim about how Mcdonalds was wrongfully sued and how they would never sell hot coffee to their customers

What? I never brought up. McDonalds

Only banned from the developer's servers. It's fine to ban someone from a service, or to refuse to sell them more, it's only a problem when you take away things they already own by remote deactivation.

Do you think that people should be banned from a game on steam when they modify it to cheat online?

It should be up to individual server owners, but that would require companies letting people host their own servers, and good luck convincing corporate stooges to allow that.

A little reminder that the Switch 2 you purchase

Couldn’t be me. I’m just gonna steal on from a small child and wait for pirates to bypass the anti-piracy software so I can pirate their games.

Only banned from the developer's servers.

oh so like what nintendo is doing

I would have assumed everyone anon on Anon Babble's Anon Babble would know how to pirate and that pirating shitendo games is a right of Man, but apparently that is not the case. The flashcart debates of yesteryear were fun. CycloDS was my main. Swapped to a R4i Gold for 3DS (because I think it werks bettar than fucking about with CIAs when it comes to the shithuge library the DS has)

Using the guy that got ratted out cause he was cheating people out of there modded switch and pirated games.

Maybe not the best guy to throw in there when he was scamming other people.

As long as the console is still usable, feel free to ban them from your online service.

Man if only there were some way to use your console without ever running the risk of it getting bricked, but alas I just can't think of a single thing

Maybe companies should just make their hardware more open, instead of this closed off proprietary slop.

I should be able to modify my console to avoid ever having to pay anything for new games

guess what the end result of this would wind up being

Passion projects thrive, while AAA corporate approved slop would die.

Sounds good to me, famalam.

Reminder this has been a thing since the PS3/360 days, they just never hard bricked it, just made you unable to connect.
Even Valve heads are coping by pretending steam doesn't have universal bans.

That's just admitting you don't even own your own hardware at this point. It'd be like Valve bricking your PC if they detected a fitgirl repack. Consoles are just abject cancer at this point and the cattle who defend them need to be roundly mocked.

The default response was 'you've been caught cheating we don't make mistakes you cant appeal it'.

After a few days Activision admitted they'd fucked up and unbanned everyone.

A similar thing happened with TemTem, that knockoff pokemon MMO game. Big part of why nobody even remembers it anymore, that and all the crashing at launch.

AAA corporate approved slop would die

right, so there would never be another nintendo game. if that's what you really want, then why do you even want a switch in the first place? a PC or steam deck can already do what you're apparently claiming you want, and if you really do just hate nintendo then you weren't going to buy a switch in the first place, so you'd literally just be arguing against nothing at all. which makes you a retard.

you do own the hardware. you don't own the software, you have a license for it, but you're probably a pedantic brown ESL so nothing anybody tells you could ever change your mind.

I don't know the situation well, if you have more details that are relevant and have sources for them, you could add them to the article.

Sure.

You do own the hardware. Feel free to program your own OS, BIOS, etc. to use with it, because you do not own the software and thus aren't allowed to modify it, and even less distribute modified versions of it.

Is this a bot?

right, so there would never be another nintendo game.

Most modern Nintendo games are trash, so I don't see the issue here. The only series I'd truly miss would be metroid, and fans can already make a better metroid than nintendo can.

If Nintendo can just brick your system because you did something THEY didn't like, then they own the hardware, not you.

Most modern Nintendo games are trash, so I don't see the issue here.

right so you don't even care. you're just pissing in the wind because you're a faggot.

If these companies don't like criticism, they should get off the internet. Also, maybe you should stop getting offended on their behalf.

You could take them to court? I doubt this would hold off at all especially if you argue a kid signed the clause since kids can barely read and all lawyer speak is deliberatly made to be hard to read and interpret.
Also its like other posters have said. Just don't buy their products. But if you're deadset on owning nintendo products heres what you do.

be (You)

want nintendo toy but hate nintendo

start online movement

similar to NNN but for nintendo

for one month no one spends money on nintendo products

investors will seeth

Nintendo will bend the knee

offers will be made negotiations will be had

the longer (We) hold out the better the offers get. :)

In one month they'll be begging (You) to come back.

Technically, you could install different software onto it and still keep using the hardware.

You have a better chance at making nintendo seethe by buying a copy of palworld.

As much as he wants you to think that the guy trying too hard to be a tendie is in fact real.

Don't buy it.

Why would that make them seethe? They didn't give a shit about it until palfags spammed their social media.

I don't know the situation well

God I fucking hate your retard ass

Why do so many people in these threads seem to hate nintendo? If you weren't going to buy it anyway, it was never going to affect you in the first place.

Don't know why Bowser of team Xecuter and modded hardware are even mentioned here

Because the objective of the site isn't to show things that go against consumer rights, it's a site that exists to undermine things they don't like by painting them. In the worst possible light without actually explaining how any of it even relates to a consumer.

This is why communism is better

Because they don't.
They're horrendously tsundere for Nintendo but don't want to buy their systems for their games.

Because it suppresses the people?

I grew up with Nintendo. I don't want to hate them. They simply made it impossible not to. Their fanboys generate a lot of that hate as well out of pure spite.

yeah, they're retards who think nintendo hardware and software should be free for whatever reason.

why even jailbreak your switch 2 when you can just buy a Steam Deck?

my switch 2 can now do everything my Steam Deck can, but theres a chance Nintendo will pull it and erase all my save data!

This. Nintendo are great devs, it's their lawyers and marketing team that are awful. And their localizers, fuck them too.

If they could clean up their problems, I would be playing the shit out of all their games.

At this point it's not really the company itself, but the obnoxious fanboys that worship them. I'd buy a hundred copies of each Nintendo title, if it meant each fanboy was mercilessly slapped with a glove covered in legos.

try to discuss new Mario Kart

say one slightly negative thing

"BRO THE GAME IS GONNA SELL MILLIONS, KILL YOURSELF SNOY, YOU LOST AND GOT GAPED MACACO LOLOL"

I wish unpleasant things upon all console warriors.

t.capitalist dog

You tried this schtick countless times, ACfag. It's not gonna work any better this time either.

See what I mean. They're always making some dumb excuses.

At this point it's not really the company itself, but the obnoxious fanboys that worship them

You mean the ones that you imagine? Or are you just mad because they correct you all the time?

Let's look at some of the totally legitimate discourse by the Nintendo fandom, shall we?

Nintendo are great devs

I wouldn't call poor matchmaking and P2P servers to be "great".

Dumb excuses? They priced me out of their games.

You consider yourself a Nintendo fan?

To be honest, not anymore. I can't be apart of this fandom that hates video games and is only concerned about sales and making money. Or did you imply some kind of samefagging? In which case I deny that claim as well.

company cares about making money

waow

Whatever happened to "Nintendo isn't like other companies"?

To be honest, not anymore

Why did you say your posts were Nintendo fan posts then?

Where?

Here

None of those are my posts, though?

Yeah they are, you said they were.

Where? I'm looking at , and nowhere do I say that.

So you admit that they're yours and take full responsibility for them. Good.

more schizobabble

I think you need to take your meds.