SWITCH 2 SPECS ARE OUT

we already know that hogwarts for ex runs much better on switch 2 than on ps4, give up shlomo you've lost your fake spec sheets spamming won't make the dilation station or the 'eck any less shit

CPU clock is lower docked than portable

?

Fuck you're right... I concede

That’s a good thing.

Gamechat eating all that RAM, fucking hate everything about that feature, pay to use button on the controller and also taking away precious RAM.

Specs are irrelevant. Don't play third party games on the switch and you'll be fine. The only problem is the thing doesn't have the decency to be cheap.

Damn guess we are all owed this anons entire life savings after all.

i'd assume it's throttling due to the massive power consumption increase of the gpu
that's 6x as many cores running at 300 more mhz
even with nodeshrinks that's still a lot

This is false. Why? Because the data doesn't match what was leaked months ago.

see you in 2 years when Deck 2 shits all over your dumb toy. Again

Funny because there's now custom reshell projects for the original Switch that allow you to provide sufficient cooling to it so that it runs at the highest clocks it can and it turns out it can kind of be strong but anti-throttling prevents the CPU from reaching its full potential. I guess it's gonna be the same case here. Fucking portables man

show that leak then

See you 2 years after that when Nintendo shits all over your shit again

Only people Nintendo will shit on is you, their dearest customers.

Again

The first deck couldn't even outsell the wii u but whatever helps you sleep at night I guess

These clocks are retarded, should have cut the GPU back closer to 400mhz while in handheld while boosting it to 1200 while docked, push higher resolutions while docked, should have aimed to boost mem bandwidth while docked too, maybe 102GB/s is the limit, but I doubt it the hardware kind of makes no sense.

higher clocks in handheld than docked

Really zero sense made.

ok, now give me monster hunter rise 2

Doesn't matter. Tendies will still buy it. It's focusing on a different market.

do you people have any argument that doesn't involve sales, something completely irrelevant to the consumer?

Source for these?

"Heh! the steam deck 2 shits all over your dumb toy"

"STOP YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSE TO BRING UP SALES"

lol

weaker cpu than former because lol

2 cores lmao

This thing was filled at random

yeah, you're supposed to bring up something that gives it value not how many sóy creatures zerged to it
so do you have anything?

My friend joked that the switch two would be the switch one, but with the deactivated cores reactivated. Little did I know he was not joking...

3gb just for the os?
Mario.. easy on the applets

Lower clocked CPU cores...

I guess the rumours of backwards compatibility being a bit broken are true... And I do understand that it has twice as many cores, higher memory bus and all that other shit.

3 tflops while docked but it's ampere tflops, in terms of compute performance it's 3 tflops, but when it comes to rendering performance it's only about 70% of that power, so you cut 30% of that and you get the real number, 2.1 Gflops.
This is nothing like a PS4 pro, it's closer to a PS4, but it's ram is slow as fuck, PS4 is like 180GB/s the Switch 1 is barely over 100GB/s, this is is a bottleneck but it's also dependant on games, Nintendo games are fine since they aren't going to have absurdly high detail textures, actually the Xbox One got away with way slower ram but it had a really fast small embedded cache to make up for this.
Very few games will be 4k, and very few games will have a 120hz mode, the only games I expect to achieve this are 2d games like Metroid/Mario, maye another Donkey Kong Country if we see it.
Luigi's Mansion 4 will probably be 4k, but it won't be 60fps, unless it uses ray tracing, RT on this device seems pointless, these specs line up with another rumour stating that only 2 RT cores could be used I cbf doing the math but I imagine RT performance is nothing compared to Series S.
Series S is like 3x the power with less ram and a much better CPU, but no games will be as well optimized for Series S compared to what you will see on Switch 2.

easily emulatable on my old ass PC

this is good news

Lol no no no you won't be able to emulate the Switch 2 at all Chuddie. Nintendo has made sure of that.

rook, gaijin you meddre in that consore we brick you

yeah, whatever

It literally has 12GB of Ram and Switch 1 is more powerful than an Xbox 360, better CPU, better GPU, 8x the Ram, the only thing Xbox 360 has that's better is it's OS is more lightweight with more features while being about as snappy, Nintendo's OS devs are shit.

AesirGODS?! Are we stupid niggers or what???

Eta on hacks?

Can someone explain the significante of this without bias? I'm sleepy and know nothing about technology so i have zero clue whether this is good or bad.

So 200 bucks worth of shit sold for 3x more?

Does this mean xenoblade games can render at higher than 240p now?

nintendies will defend this

Pedophile snoytranny ercy

338 bucks worth*

how the fuck does that basic switch 1 ui take up 3gb of ram

It really isn't even worth 200. Fair price would be more like 100.

hello eric. Ready for the famitsu threads tomorrow?

portable ps4 is suddenly a bad thing

more like 1.33x

Lol Nintendo emulation will not happen again, this is why they took down the switch 1 emulators. No one is going to want to develop one, and if they do Nintendo will take them down.

This is probably more expensive than a Tegra X1 even though it's definitely worse considering it's launch point, Nintendo legitimately fucked up.

What are the TeraFLOPS?

source: Digital Foundry

open their video

WE NOW GOT CONFIRMATION

doesn't say where they got the confirmation

keeps talking about leaks

Not suddenly. Ps5 came out years ago.

competing with last gen

okay great graphics improvements have solely been diminishing returns since then

Are like the bits of back then but more

It's better because last gen didn't have good upscaling tech, the Switch 2 has a custom modern DLSS version with custom Nvidia hardware parts to support RT.

I have a feeling something isn't adding up. Didn't they admit to not even attending hands on switch 2 preview events before?

Steam deck is pretty good.

Narrator: it wasn't better.

It's barely competing with last gen.

Why wouldn't it? The switch is a hand held console.

2.1, PS4 was 1.8

What are the TeraFLOPS?

narrator: The switch 2 went on to sell 100 million units, breaking this anon's brain forever

What ARE Flops?

I think it will be stronger than those due to newer tech. The switch 1 wasn't stronger than the PS3 or 360 but games from that era ran considerably better on the switch, usually going from 720p 24 fps (or worse) to 1080p 30fps, look at red dead redemption, Skyrim, dragon's dogma dark arisen and similar titles.
Games like cyberpunk already run way better than they did on a PS4

It being successful and it being good are two entirely different issues.

YUP. LimitationLUDO is back on the menu.

Because even good phones can, and if they can, why can't a handheld?

They have the obligation to run better, much faster memory and not running on mechanical HDD while still having the same performance as PS4 would be kinda...wack.

Heh, vidcons

I can expect ps4pro quality gaming on a phone sounds great. What phone, and how much?

Pedophile snoytranny ercy

On the good side, this is going to be easy as fuck to emulate.

3GB FOR THE OS

3GB FOR THE OS

3GB FOR THE OS

3GB FOR THE OS

3GB FOR THE OS

3GB FOR THE OS

3GB FOR THE OS

3GB FOR THE OS

3GB FOR THE OS

3GB FOR THE OS

Realme GT7 Pro, Oneplus 13, Xiamo 15, etc. Many phones from last year and this year deliver performance between a PS4 and PS4 pro.
Depending on where you live and the store, some of them might cost 1k, others might cost 600 bucks.

Pedophile snoytranny ercy

The switch 2 could blow every phone on the market out of the water if they had two versions one affordable and one costing thousands of dollars.

Why blocking cores for gamers?
Motherfuckers, people are paying for a 6 core CPU but tehy're only allowed to use 2?
Fuck that shit

upscaling is never good you low iq mongoloid.

imagine all the people bitching that its too much for 450 now having a 1000 option

Because its fake news

Pedophile snoytranny ercy

Damn steamies got BTFO.

Hey eric! Ready for the famitsu threads tomorrow?

If you think thats bad, the PS4 dedicated 4GB of RAM to its OS, thats literally half of the consoles RAM.

Oh no no no no

they're for the os
the big consoles do the same thing

Looking forward to it.

The 1000 option would actually be good because all the games would be made for the 450 one leaving the 1000 one with good performance. The 1000 one would be complete shit if it was the only option as games would be made for it meaning everything would look and run like shit on it just the like real one will now.

ampere

128bit bus

So it’s going to be worse than a 3050. Good for emulationchads.

did you really use that information to determine that?
not the core count being down 40% or the clocks being down 50%?

Switch 2 memory bandwidth 102 GB/s

That's lower than the base ps4's 170

Fuck

We never going to get a nice looking xenoblade game

Let's say those specs are true
Did they really need Express SD for all that?

Is Xbox Series S last gen?

I don't get it.
The switch 2 is weaker than the series S but why does sf6 look much better on it?

but when it comes to rendering performance it's only about 70% of that power, so you cut 30% of that and you get the real number, 2.1 Gflops.

That's not how that works. Especially not when compared to ancient fucking GCN architecture PS4 is using.

PS4, but it's ram is slow as fuck, PS4 is like 180GB/s the Switch 1 is barely over 100GB/s, this is is a bottleneck but it's also dependant on game

Again that's not how it works. Nvidia is much more bandwidth efficient than AMD (especially ancient GCN).
RTX3000 cards only need 25GB/s bandwidth per TFLOP. Even 4090 only requires 26GB/s per TFLOP.
108GB/s for a 3TF device is more than enough.

Read up if you want to discuss tech, retardo

Don't give a fuck

samearms

The switch 2 is weaker than the series S but why does sf6 look much better on it?

Because the devs didn't give a fuck about the S version?
Are you retarded?

Anon Babble is a techlet board. What do you expect?

name of cosplayer?

Yes.
Regular SD cards are like 40MB/s on a good day.
That's 3 minutes to fill the 9GB devs can use.
Express SD gives you 600MB/s

Cry your heart out lmao

I see. Fair enough.

The image that utterly fucked up Steamies. Gaben cock slurpers can never recover from this LMAO.

are you going to do that once deck 2 comes out?

All videogames are toys

Native 540

vs

Native 1080

That's also confirmed DLSS.
Not saying it's a bad thing, but it does explain how a system that is less powerful on the paper is able to surpass the deck.
It is just not, but it can cheat the image up.

Valve dies next month.

now how exactly are you going to demonstrate ps4 pro power? are you going to emulate ps4 progames on it, or do they make phone games of that spec or are you just going to play genshin impact on it?

Is there any proof that devs care about the switch 2 version?

Retarded steamie.

Yep, but the DLSSed up picture looks sharper than the "native" one. (partially because it is using TAA garbage)

Steam deck can run truxton, while the switch 2 can't.

SF6 is getting amiibos

Exactly so how the fuck is the switch version sharper and less blurry?

Based McDonald's Chad!

if you know the exact concrete numbers on the hardware side of the equation then where could the culprit be?

reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/1kmgiz7/switch_2_cpu_weaker_than_steam_deck/
Steamies cope begin.

Everything gets amiibos

linking to reddit

tendies unironically linking to reddit

lol

Not a real cosplayer, that's just my autistic cousin

Which one is OLED?

So switch 1 has a vastly improved efficiency model then?

Extorting retarded tendies is caring about the switch 2?

Aren't there phones more powerful than this?

native 540p

native 240p

native 144p

I'm not saying that "IT LOSES BECAUSE IT IS CHEATING!", just that power in this case is absolutely not everything.

I do enjoy a saint seiya bullshit, a "THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE! MY TERAFLOPS ARE SUPERIOR TO HIS TERAFLOPS! HOW IT CAN HIT ME!!"
And that's what i'm getting with the SF comparison actually.

objectively bad things don't succeed

let me guess, you need more?

So why are we shitting and passing again if the switch 2 can provide a better image quality than the S?

Plebbit, wiki, kiwi farms, nip boards, these subhumans will do anything but leave the kids alone.

Phones can play Mario Kart World and Duskbloods?

It's true, the switch 2 CPU is half the power of the steam deck CPU.
However the PS4 CPU is half of the power of the switch 2 CPU, and developers are used to the PS4 CPU.
It's an upgrade.

switch2*

1200 dollar phones, but considering how phone os works they always underperform greatly by lack of cooling and the os hogging most resources.

why is it suddenly taking up 3 gb when the os doesn't seem changed much?

"Switch 1 pro" remarketed: confirmed

You better cough up for the super convenient and almost mandatory NSO as well, anon. Nintendo is a humble mom and pop operation

2 cores

GET FUCKED

Because it has the better technology. Nvidia developed a custom DLSS version for the Switch 2, this was seen in the patents nintendo filed last year. They also made custom hardware for it that supports RT and the new custom DLSS.
PS and Xbox won't see something similar to this until PS6 and Xbox2 because they partnered with AMD to create/co-develop one for them.

Built in Denuvo and emergency backdoor so Nintendo can explode your bing bing wahoo if they detect something unkosher.

It appeared to them in a dream

Emulachads scare you that much?

so the leaked motherboard was real then?

may.2chan.net/b/res/1319054341.htm

Yep.
It's pure Jensen magic here.
And according to the DF video, there is even a "360p to 1080p" mode on the DLSS that could be used to push the thing even further beyond, like doing some basicass raytracing.

For 10 seconds.
Because they don't have active cooling and a smaller physical battery, in practice they can't deliver the same performance as a switch 2 for extended periods of time, the power is generally used in a "kaioken" logic, to boost up to tackle the facebook loading faster and such.

this is probably correct

Remote timebomb

No, the benchmark was proven bullshit

There's actually death stranding but it's only available for iphones which aren't that good for games.
So the only option to compare is gacha, call of duty, or battle royales.

Because DLSS, RT, etc. Updates will probably be bigger so they need the extra room.

Also nintendo seems to have patented some for og upscaling technique for 540p to 1080

They probably will

Deck 2 will cost $800 minimum.

there's a switch 2 emulator? Where?

Lol. Phones cant even run zzz when a 5 year old laptop can

Trannyboards status?

Wasting a CPU core and over 1 GB of ram for gamechat

Cringe and retarded, I hope They give devs the option to turn gamechat off for extra resources like They did on the Switch with the recording function.

You poor naive fool.

all they talk about is trying to buy the fucker

Yes

anything that can be measured as a success, by definition, was not objectively bad in some aspect. Otherwise no explanation for its success exists.

The way nintendo can brick the switch 2 remotely is exactly the way that every company can brick the console remotely since the Xbox 360.
The consoles have these "e-fuses" inside that are traces in the CPU that can be literally burned with high current without damaging the rest of the chip.
In every console since then (except for the Wii i think), every firmware version has a number of e-fuses burned requirement, and they get burned to the required number on install, so you can't downgrade the firmware.
Now let's say nintendo sees that you have a copy of captain rainbow and gets fucking pissed off at you, they can send an update that burns all the e-fuses, making the console incompatible with all the firmware versions, thus bricked.

oof that memory bandwidth

how to get sued and lose all goodwill 101

Yep.
Which is why they will be reserving this just to "hackers and pirates (tm)"

3 weeks.

Yuzu took 3 years to get actually good.
It managed to "run" games pretty quickly, but it was slow and very buggy.

Kek'd the replies are seething bunch of faggot double niggers sloshing their HRT coated fingers on the keyboard to piss blood about how the switch 2 "isn't garbage"

nintendo makes another underpowered tablet

completely dominates a $1000 console in hardware and software sales again

we need to stop chasing graphics. it's killing everything.

projection?

Reddittier reply, go back.

Switch 1 had the specs of a tablet yet became one of the biggest consoles of all time

It proved specs don't matter, games and ways to play games do.

Cope

360p to 1080p

only one in nine real pixels

humiliation ritual

CPU boosts to 1.7GHz max

Pathetic. Nearly every phone CPU is faster nowadays.

Fuck off dude, monopoly go is the best game of all time then. Retard.

If the switch is weak console why the size of modern games is over 30gb??

phones are over a thousand dollars

they were faster in 2020 when that shit was first assembled
for a corporation that wants to buy ARM nvidia sure does fucking suck at making those

clearly somebody is lying

A modern COD is like Terabyte

Yep, or what i like to call, "the mankind horrors beyond comprehension" mode.

Every phone CPU is faster than this for 10 seconds before overheating and going back to 0.8Ghz or something.
No pic related, no sustained clocks.

It proved games don't matter, only hype does.
Switch has like 20 WiiU ports lel

r/iusereddit

Nearly every phone CPU is faster nowadays.

Yes for only a few seconds.

You forgot about how it had no real competition in the handheld space for the first 5 years of its life, and how other consoles and PC parts were scalped during the coof while the Switch cost $300.

haha, it has some last gen ports

So does every single mainline console before it, are you fucking stupid?

The switch 2 has a lot of memory.
With a lot of memory, you can use a lot of textures, even if your GPU is crap, because the texture colors are sampled only once per pixel, so the texture size does not affect performance.

by certain metrics you can absolutely say that yes

Portable gaming for adults is a niche fad.
I bet every single Portable PC and Playstation portal user also has a Switch and plans to buy a Switch 2
The market probably caps out at 6 to 7 million users.

couple of seconds

But if you gave those CPUs proper cooling, they would be faster than the one in Switch 2. In fact, that's what those chink handheld manufacturers do.

It had a bigger ratio than normal consoles, but it is understandable because no one had a WiiU, so not spending money to get more games no one played on the system is a winning bet.

Reminder that digital foundry are hacks and couldn't tell there was dlss on street fighter 6 for weeks dispite it being upscale from fucking 540p native.

It had a bigger ratio than normal consoles

Are you saying that after a good 30 minutes of research or just confidently saying that?

Don’t know what any of that means

hyyyyyyyyyyype

number 1 Nvidia shills pretended not to notice grossly upscaled content

What are the odds?

Yes, however, as most people don't have these chink phones, games made for phones are aimed at the lowest common denominator.
Actually, given the crippled nature of OpenGL ES and phone vulkan, "the lowest common denominator" basically rule the phone landscape by a mile.

Just winging it because it makes a lot of sense and it's a actually a good thing, because fuck burying games on a console that no one have and get the fucking starfox in the switch asap.

I agree that they are hacks
But the dlss in this case is really impressive

Switch 2 uses an upscaler to look good

Considering how much disdain devs have for the Series S, i wouldn't be surprised if that was an ultra rushed port.

native 540p

Portable, right?
Portable... right?

You can only detect DLSS if you get the first frame of the scene.
Nintendo probably did not included it in the footage to pretend its all native.

pretended

Let's not give them that much credit

sarrs
why is switch 2 better textures

You can only detect DLSS if you get the first frame of the scene.

Sure, uggo.

Probably both.
It's just upscale dlss. It looks sharper than the series s in the same image.

What other devicez does the SD express standard support so far? I can only find the switch 2 and the pc adapter to read them.

THE HECKIN AI MADE IT BETTER ITS NOT FAIR

More Ram, Series S has 10 while Switch 2 has 12

barely competing with last gen

this is going to be funny for Square Enix after saying that everyone would need to buy a PS5 to play the sequel and DLC.

I want to see the gameplay in motion.
DLSS in still pictures always looks better than it actually is.

Techlet tendies wouldn't know

It's the power of DLSS!!!

ESL

once again proving that anti-nintendo posters are just jeets and turdworlders mad that they're getting priced out

More Ram, Series S has 10 while Switch 2 has 12

Switch has LITERALLY 9GB

yeah fucking idiots
now excuse me while i play silent hill 2 at 16 fps on my all powerful deck

Tendies really clinging to this one game bruh. Y'all not getting GTA6 lmao

now excuse me while i play silent hill 2 at 16 fps on my all powerful deck

Or 0 fps on Switch 1
and 0 fps on Switch 2

Nothing aside from others handhelds PC because no device ever needed it
Cameras use other formats and phones are doing away with external storage.

That's some high grade pettiness, goddamn.

It's funny how hard tendies keep seething about this single PC handheld kek

fr fr my nigga

Why would tendies seethe when Switch 2 preorder is already higher than Deck's entire lifetime sale?

why wouldn't they when pc vegans have been shilling it in every thread regarding the switch for the past 3 years

Series S still has less than the Switch 2

Series S has 10 GB (8 available for games)

Switch 2 has 12 GB (9 available for games)

The motion comparisons from digital foundry specs video

Tendies aren't the ones reporting these made up specs on... Steam Deck reddit for some reason

PC + NINTENDO ALLIANCE HAHA

*Valve releases Steam Deck*

NOO, NOT LIKE THIS

Reminder than even if the Switch 2 flops, it will have outsold the troonix deck.

PC ain't getting it either

still relaying anything from digital frauds

made up specs

so this is the point where we're at huh

underpowered

It's to keeps costs down you fucktard, it's about the games at the end of the day and that's matters most to actual gamers, something PCfags know nothing about since all they do is brag about buying the latest $3000 GPU with no games to play on it

see

Tendies aren't the ones reporting these made up specs on

They are only real if Nintendo confirms them in a Nintendo® Direct™ right?

DF has made up specs before (for PS5 Pro)
They literally haven't quoted a single source in their video

This.
Switch 1 was WiiU tier. Jump to PS4 tier on portable is fucking good.

this anon is the only sensible one in this thread

unironically yeah. Which one do you think has more of a reason to post misinformation in this day and age

It's to keeps costs down you fucktard

Then why cost so high?

PS5

900$ (800$ console + 100$ online) for 480p 35 fps and zero games

Xbox

850$ (730$ console + 120$ for online) for 360p 25 fps and zero games

Steam Deck

PC but with 50% performance for 90% price

Switch 2

470$ (450$ console + 20$ online) for 4k 60 fps for shitload of kino games

but they counted the pixels....THEY HAVE A FRAME GRAPH

Switch 1 was a toy and sold 156 million consoles.
Tendies only bought 34 of these. Normies got the rest.

Anon Babble when the $450 handheld does exactly what its price point can do and isn't a $1500 ASUS ROG from 2027

They are real. Keep coping.

Shh. You'll upset the deckies.

What's a "CUDA core"?

Shitendo is not even in competition with wtv your retarded little brain thinks costs $1000 (probably the Scamtendo 2 after tariffs) and much less when it comes to quality games.

I only care about playing the new pokemon games.

No there were journalists saying it might be as powerful as a PS5.

Well I doubt the video of series S gameplay ain't from the series S.

unironically yeah

kek
the absolute state of tendies

can you give me source DF used in their video please and thank you

inb4 i'm not going to spoonfeed you

I browse reddit

Absolute state of kindergarten dwelling tendies.

Not being troonix shitware. Done.

It's to keeps costs down you fucktard

yes, that's what i said you stupid fucking moron. get your eyes checked, and when you get fitted for your new glasses, buy a gun, some ammo, load that bitch up and end your worthless life you stupid fucking gorilla nigger.

pcs need a 1000 dollar gpu to run the newest games max at 1440p

seethe uncontrollably when a console priced below the other consoles runs 1080p

Source then.

>Anon Babble when the $450 handheld does exactly what its price point can do and isn't a $1500 ASUS ROG from 2027

It's a low powered mobile SOC from 2021 though.
Like TV streaming dongle tier for 89 bucks you can buy at Walmart.

It's been linked in this thread you absolute donkey

The journo called NintedGOD said this.

1080p

*upscaled from 540p

It's so WEAK

Nintendo costs down

Tendie costs up

Sounds fair

I'm not anti or pro nintendo because i'm too third worlder for either.
If anything, i'm more interested in seeing the hardware being pushed to it's limits and then more, than actually playing anything.
It will be wicked if some madlad actually do a path traced game on the switch 2 via 2030 enhancements, even if its a 360p DLSS stretched game.

Doesn't even know how much tariffs are and Nintendo said they changed it already

The sad thing is you're not even an astroturfer, you're just this fucking stupid as part of the game.

cost so high

It's pretty much in line with the gaming PC handheld market, anything stronger than a Switch 2 is retailing for hundreds more dollars.
A key problem is manufacturing, back in the day manufacturing would get much simpler and cheaper and you would see that reflected in the price of the product going down. But that isn't happening these days so the prices of these things are kinda rigid, and now are even going up.

You mean 540p.

rabidly obsessed fuming non argument

Yet still stronger than the Steam Deck, which caused all the seething steamies in this thread lmao.

native 144p

this is the future of gaming

All these post thinking they know shit about anything

ackshually its 96p

So basically it's 1.5 Jetson Orin NXs with an overclock (when docked)?
That's alright I guess, I imagine it'll be PS4 tier when docked and Steam Deck tier when handheld.

4k 60 fps

Probably not happening in most cases.
Nintendo is calling 1440p "4k",
However japanese smaller developers tend to target to the nintendo platform, you get the kino games you're saying.

I DONT CARE ABOUT GRAPFIX I JUST WANT TO PLAY OLDER KINO POKEMON GAMES
3D WAS A MISTAKE
EVERYTHING IN 3D LOOKS LIKE SHIT
BETTER GAMES LESS OF THIS GRAPHIC BLOAT

congratulations to nintendo for achieving this... uhm... decisive? no... victory... three years later!!

Sony had to remind these little pedo rats that they make hardware in 5 different countries, Nintendo is stuck with China and their 145% tariffs.

SF6 characters are so fucking ugly, jesus christ, the only decent looking females are Juri and the girl with headphones that they use for promotional material.

The Steam Deck couldn't even score a victory over fucking Nokia N-Gage lmao.

you type like a redditor

You'd say the same thing is it was 6 months later, lets be honest.

Given the AI bullshit people are researching, you're probably right.
a DLSS 8.0 might make shit like that possible and the standard

Win would be if it was cheaper than a deck, instead it's weaker and more expensive. Tariffs not included.

Steam Deck users right now trying to convince themselves that 30fps low at 800p is “peak PC gaming” while the Switch 2 is running optimized first-party titles with better battery life and dev support. Keep seething, Deckbros.

Steam Deck tier

A 625 OLED steam deck with an upgraded dock, lets stop omitting that shit.

Switch 2s are made in Vietnam and stuff like the cartridges are made in Korea.

Saar, why are you omitting the cheaper deck is 800p/60hz, and barely plays at medium settings?

and a skibidi rizz Ohio chungus brainrot hood speak gibberish to you too

TOP KEK look at all the seething replies, tendies are the most sensitive people out there!

!

The mark of a redditor.

You speak like a SEA astroturfer,

or just dont buy nitendos dogshit products
last good shit they made was 3ds and wii u games
switch is the wii all over again
souless crap marketed to retards i got one as a gift and the idea of it is cool but its anti consumer garbage

the 1070 has more cuda cores than the switch

You sound mad, steamie. Too poor to afford video games?

thank you for meeting buzzword quota saar 1 pence has been deposited into your account saar.

Vietnam? 700% tariffs

is the deck a PC? i thought it was it's own thing

yes
imagine it's a linux laptop with a smaller screen and a controller instead of a keyboard

its a pc without any of the benefits of a pc

its a pc without any of the benefits of a pc

maybe if you reduce your definition of pc to high end hardware

UMPCs are just PCs, yes. You can do whatever.

Yet still stronger than the Steam Deck

Citation needed

what about

ability to upgrade parts

customizable

i mean...that's basically all they are, especially when they're being brought up in console comparisons.

It's a linux based OS handheld that has to be specifically optimized for games and requires a shitton of homebrewing to go any faster. Which makes it near impossible to not need a 30w+ portable charger due to the severe loss in battery life. It's like pretending a Raspberry Pi is a gaming premade.

I DONT CARE ABOUT GRAPFIX I JUST WANT TO PLAY OLDER KINO POKEMON GAMES

Literally only gen 1 and 2.
And Steam Deck plays them best.

9gb available for games

literally and unironically over

By last gen do you mean ps4 or ps5, cause this gens are starting to blur together.

Both possible, even if beyond your abilities.

Still BTFOs the steam dreck lmao

that's more than a series s the fuck are you talking about?

it's way better than PS4 retard

yes the series s has 8gb available and is already struggling to run games at 30 fps despite having a more powerful gpu and cpu.

Its a cheap handheld. What the fuck did you retards expect of a small $450 device?
No, i wont buy it, fuck those game prices

just talking out of his ass now

Nintendo magic instead of pajeet coding shat over a thousand times.

Strange way of saying "way worse than a PS4 in handheld mode"

by that metric my ps2 is a pc because i upgraded it with an internal ssd
and my ps1 is a pc because i soldered in a sd card reader

What games outside CoD and 200 seperate moving models simulator stuff needs more than 8 dedicated GBs at 1080p???

not even 3070 performance

especially with DLSS

By your dumb nigger metric, a laptop isn't a PC.

its not
its a laptop

anything open world. the pop in is going to to be egregious(already happening on series s).

handheld mode

kwab

SURR, PLS BUY A 400 DOLLAR CONSOLE FOR A 28 YEAR OLD GAME.

A 30 dollar kids tablet can go up to PSP at native res, fuck off.

As I said, dumb nigger.

ur so lucky....

buys a Switch 2 to play only docked

costs the same as a PS5 but has 1/5th the performance and with $90 games

kwab

It can't.

Xbox Series S only has 10GB. Developers have to work with around 8GB of memory on the Series S, as Microsoft reserves around 2GB for OS tasks.

1 whole extra gig of usable ram isn't going to solve anything when games are becoming even more bloated. the third party dream is already dead.

Having sex with your cousin gets boring quickly.

Oh nooooooo, they have to render items 80 meters away at half resolution.

Who gives a shit outside tech reviewers?

PC is getting it with PS6 and new xbox launch so

This year. It’s launching with HL3 as a deck 2 supported title.

and it's all digital online garbage

hl3 is just a rumor

deck 2

the absolute state
Captcha: WHYIS

you jest but the xbox one port of elden ring did that and far away objects running at 15 fps and it looked terrible because it included enemies.

All soulsshits do this. DaS2 was extremely lightweight and still had to resort to this, and it'd happen all the fucking time because the range for LOD was ridiculously low, because From can't build a videogame.

I’m still buying switch 2. Wish preorders weren’t sold out. Only got one and I need two. Was counting on the Nintendo email but I never got one. Hopefully it’s not over for me bros.

I have no idea what these mean so I'm just going to flip between saying THEY'RE BAD ITS SO OVER and THEY'RE AMAZING WE'RE SO BACK depending on what I'm in the mood for

1536 cores @1007MHz vs 256 cores @768MHz

Actual generational leap.

Don't care.
Call me back once Splatoon 4 is released

The big stores have already had 1-2 restocks so keep watching Best Buy/Walmart/Target.

Ah yes, finally Switch can enter the generation of fake frames and fake pixels

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The Switch 2 is an underpowered and overpriced handheld in 2025.

Tendies

*incomprehensible screeching*

HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHA

96p

Kino

overpriced

We know it costs them $338 to build it so yeah, it's about $100 too expensive. Other companies sell at a loss so a Sony or Microsoft handheld that strong would be around $300 and not $450. It's an actual idiot tax.

i really doubt ms is still selling at a loss after the 100 dollar price hike

better than the 'eck

ARM

This shit only works well for mobile electronics so I see why Nintendo stuck with ARM because of great battery life and lower power consumption. But x86 architecture is still better for handling large power loads. Which is why the PS5 and Series X us it.

9GB available for games

BRUH LMAO

it's honestly puzzling
you have the biggest exclusive library
your games cost less to develop
your hardware is consistently weak
you get bodied by emulation because of how shit the value is compared to a pc bruteforcing performance you could only dream of
and you have no qualms about scalping your customers everywhere?
jewry of the highest order

Sony releases financial report

PS5 sales are trending behind PS4

half-dozen threads doomposting Switch 2 in the catalog

I see why Nintendo stuck with ARM

Because they bought cheap af bargain bin SOCS from Nvidia for the Switch 1. Like under 20 bucks per chip cheap.
And now they are locked in.

Modern AMD x86 APUs are efficient as fuck.

It's barely competing with last gen.

FF7 Remake Intergrade version, Cyberpunk with DLC (not in old gen games), Star Wars Outlaws, Borderlands 4 and so on, better than PS4 Pro with modern tech

try again...

FF7 Remake Intergrade version, Cyberpunk with DLC (not in old gen games), Star Wars Outlaws, Borderlands 4 and so on, better than PS4 Pro with modern tech

Tendies said all these games are trash a few years ago?
They are

That's the same shit that leaked 3+ years ago

MS/Sony stop selling at a loss as production costs decrease later on, they're just willing to sell at a loss early to maintain a competitive price point. There is no other handheld that is competition so Nintendo rips off consumers hoping to sell as many consoles as they can before the Sony/Microsoft handhelds come out and they will obviously be priced better.

Counterpoint: Wii. Literally a OC'd GC with the most awful controller ever. Only casuals who never played games before bought that trash.

So it's a portable ps4 with more modern tech? isn't that the baseline many were expecting?

You are so retarded it's unreal.

Probably due to their retardation of not having a decent enough cooling on the dock.

SF6 was a notoriously bad port for the Xbox Series S, try other game ports?

we know Nintendo is selling at a loss in jpn

Switch is more better than Xbox 360 the same way PSP was more better than PS2 and 3DS was better than Wii. It just had more modern tech without the raw power, every 7th gen port fucking sucked.

DLSS vs Capcom's vaseline TAA, which sucks hard even on PC.

Doesn't matter, it's a Mario machine, I'm not going to play anything on it that isn't first-party. Everything else will be on my PC.

tfw my phone from 2023 is more powerful according to the chink who got the motherboard and ran benchmarks

lol&lmao

The switch only had two Mario games that weren't ports or remasters

more better

yeah proofreading my ass

How many games are you counting exactly.

Tendies said all these games are trash a few years ago?

Everyone said they were trash.
Sonyfags defended them by saying everyone was a tendie.

It's a portable PS4 Pro, what more do you want?

If it can play Street Fighter 6 and Tekken 8 without overheating...
that'd be based

Literally only oddessy and wonder

it uses DLSS, it will run significantly cooler

buying a new console just for mario kart

do they really?

An $8 loss while they make $100 profit elsewhere, we're all paying for the Japanese to buy it cheaper and it fucking sucks. They could charge the Japanese $50 more and us $50 less and it'd even out. The Japanese would still be paying $20 less than us in that scenario.

It's not a portable PS4 pro because in handheld mode it's weaker than a base PS4
Do you tendies really believe it's a PS4 pro level handheld? Laughable.

Nice arguments. Could be a woman arguing. Just say Incel instead of Retard next time

Why would they do that? They love their own people and don't care about foreigners. That was a very common thing until the last century.

that's mainly what i wanted. Better looking first party stuff. more ports of stuff. pokemon games still looking and running worse than ps2 games.

It's a portable PS4 Pro, what more do you want?

Drop the Pro. And it's not even a PS4 in handheld mode.

A lot of companies do try to keep prices in line with each other so that consumers don't feel ripped off. Nintendo doesn't have to care because their entire business model is ripping people off. I still can't get over them selling 3 roms for $60 and making it limited edition.

Okay so you're only counting the platformers then. You also forgot maker 2.

It all looks good, except the mem bandwidth. There's far too much difference between docked and mobile. The GPU and CPU deltas can be compensated for by upscaling, but mem brandwidth is going to do bad things to game logic itself.

Using DF as an official source

When they've gotten absolutely everything wrong regarding Switch 2

This is a mental illness at this point, isn't it?

its a non-retail unit

ram allocation will differ on launch

So how many base PS4 games ran at a resolution above 1080p? Did any of them even have 120fps?

None?

The Switch 2 Is at the right amount of power, not only does it help prevent it from being too costly which is important for consumer appeal in the long run, but graphics have plateued at this point and good optimization/upscaling will make up for the gap in power.

I wish Sony followed the same philosophy and make the PS6 a slightly more powerful PS5 Pro but its going to be yet again another no games machines with graphics barely any different from the last console but this time consting nearly $1000.

Yeah that's not how that works. It'd be more like charging the Japanese $90 more and the rest of the world $10 less for parity. Selling domestically is always cheaper, if only because you're saving on shipping. Producing for domestic market is always cheaper because you don't have to second guess translations, get into the weeds with obtuse government compliance rules, and the human transaction cost is lower all around. What I know of Nintendo is that they could retreat entirely to the domestic market and be fine, so any international sales is just kinda extra.

I think yakuza 0 ran at 120fps

If you think the Switch 2 will play modern releases at 1080p 60fps you're beyond retarded

PS4 Pro raped and shitted on, as if Phantom Liberty running on it wasn't proof enough

None, not even PS4pro had that, it was locked at 60.

Nvm im wrong.

Doesnt Mario Kart world run at 4K60? Metroid Prime 4 runs at 40K60 in quality mode and 1080p120 in performance mode. Donkey Kong seems to be 1440p60.

Actually the fact that its an 8 core CPU is a huge deal. Whatever new Xenoblade game they are cooking up is going to be GOTY. All the previous Xenogames only used 3 cores, this next one will use 6.

It's a tailor made version for Switch 2 with DLSS up the ass, retarded tendie

Implying Switch 2 will run games above 1080p and at 120 FPS in handheld mode

Doesnt Mario Kart world run at 4K60? Metroid Prime 4 runs at 40K60 in quality mode and 1080p120 in performance mode

Tendies are in for a rude awakening holy shit

t. snoy believer of digital shilloundry lies

Can you even preorder a Switch 2 at this point?

4k output is not 4k rendering