Thoughts on 999?
Thoughts on 999?
Top 3 VN ever. I personally like VLR more tho
I get that—VLR definitely expands the storyline and gameplay a lot, and the flowchart system is super convenient. But 999 hits different with that claustrophobic tension and creepy atmosphere. Also, the twist involving the morphogenetic fields still blows my mind.
sex with alice and lotus
that is all
VERY Kino, and like the other anon said VLR is an absolute MASTERPIECE.
I also recommend Danganronpas highly, and dont listen to the retarded DR haters out here, it's a great series.
Hundred Line defense academy is also kino as fuck
DR is slop but good slop with very occasional moments of pure kino like 2-4/5
the sequel would've been 3x as good if zero the 3rd had more presence beyond the first third of the game
greatest love story ever written
Loved 999 and loved VLR, but i couldn't stick with DR, It felt too simple in the plot and characters, and the walkable part was just tedious as fuck. Should I give it a second chance? 999 plot was always good, so does VLR, but DR felt like a chore for at least the first 5 hours.
autismkino
this and ghost trick tricked (heh) me into thinking I was into VNs but really I was just into 2 really good games not VNs as a genre.
999
Best horror
VLR
Best puzzles
ZTD
Best memes
I hated the ending and the twist
i think it's poorly written and overdone
My entry point into VNs and escape room puzzles. Fun times. VLR was also pretty good.
ZTD is best nothing, it's an embarrassment
it's very good, i would say a solid 9/10
Top 3 VN ever.
read more vns, this shit isn't even top 25 lmao
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vlr is worse in every aspect
nds or pc version?
this said, it's a vn for people who hate vns, it goes into the same bin of aa, dr, etc...
are we really going to pretend like those threads weren't full of delta posting when ZTD came out?
ztd was more fun____________________
the only good uchikoshi game
It's shit but that's exactly what lenda itself to memes. I'm pretty sure 90% of the series' memes come from ZTD alone.
I can smell your virginity from here
i'm afraid you're either smelling yourself or you have to get your nose checked lil bro
I can tell from your previous post with 100% certainty you are a anime waifu fag with 0 taste
nds or pc version?
nds
yes it was ingenious use for the hardware
still didn't like it
have to flip the DS over for the sudoku
morphogenetic sorrow blasting
June’s crying panicked face in the background
Actual cinema
welp you got it wrong again, better luck next time (also phi is the best girl)
it kinda sucks that there's no definitive version. replaying that shit 5 times is a chore and the pc version is completely botched because of the ending
Could you please give me some VN recommendations? I played 999, it was aight.
dont listen to the retarded DR haters out here, it's a great series.
i love DR because the atmosphere but you're insane if you think the entire series is great. 2 introduce matrix shit. the anime retroactively made 2 a POS. 3 has by far the worst ending. i dunno why people love 2 so much.
muramasa
he's gonna recommend you cringe romance anime emo VNs, watch
kek
ty
yeah If I have to replay I it would be through my 3ds or even emulation just for the sake of it
It's aight
Dropped it immediately.
VNs are generally all garbage aside from Hotel Dusk, you should just play that instead. That's the good stuff.
super mid and forgettable, even aa4 was better
Kino, but VLR is significantly better and my personal favorite visual novel ever.
ZTD is a didaster but it is at least a funny disaster.
but DR felt like a chore for at least the first 5 hours.
No shit.. Danganronpa 1 is like a 30 HOUR game, play more you faggit, 5 hours is absolutely nothing yet. DR2 is even longer around 50 hours, and V3 is even longer than that with the massive amount of content.
it's no use, you were born a shitter
It’s motivations are… complex.
Bro I was hooked min 1 on 999 and VLR, DR felt so fucking vanilla ass death games series, im not going to try 10 hours just to see if the plot get better or not, because it wasnt intriguing, nor the characters interestings, and the walkable part was just a waste of time. At least 999 has some fucking puzzles to have fun, DR was primarily a walking simulation.
I wish there was a version with both the dual screens as well as the route tree and VA (nip), the port does a lot that's nice but the twist and final puzzle are ruined
DR is a hardcore vn for nowadays zoomers
really makes you think...
The final puzzle broke me. As good as the remake improved virtually everything, it doesn't do the final puzzle justice like the NDS version does. One of the best VNs on the DS line hands down.
Raging Loop
Sekimeiya
Paranormasight
I remember being a young teenager and staying up all night just totally engrossed in the game, then the Sudoku ending blew my mind. Fun game.
I have never played any other game in the series.
Funny thing is after I finish 999, hotel dusk is next. I got filtered by something retardedly simple in both games then when I revisited 999 I stomped every puzzle without effort so I imagine hotel dusk will be the same
In my defense, my last VN was Saya no Uta and I was hooked min 1 with that game too, the plot was intriguing as fuck, and the characters were great. My main problem with DR was that, plain characters (at least in the beginning) with just typical anime tropes. The setting was fun but not much original or intriguing as other "death games" stuff. And the walkable part was just a waste of time, just let me read whatever I need to read, but stop justifiying the walkable part of the game other than a waste of time.
"puzzle" game for retards
What's a "puzzle" game for geniuses?
saya is another mid entry-level vn because it's 6 hours long. i'm not trying to dab on you, but we are on Anon Babble so keep that in mind. actually good vns are all 50 hours+ and at least 80% of those slow as fuck, that's how this medium works
if you have problems with this then stuff like personas, sentinel 13, and other dialogue heavy games might be more enjoyable for you then "real" vns
ty ty!
baba is you free dlc
The only 3 I want to try out.
I already played pretty much the rest that's available in english.
Hope I don't get disappointed.
Thanks, but let me ask you one last thing. Does the characters and the plot in DR1 get more interesting? Like, better subplots, motivations, better context, or its just "who's gonna die next" thing all over the game? Thanks for your time anon, take care!
any puzzle game that doesn't give you the answer before it lets you solve it
i haven't played dr, only aa and zero escapes, sorry (i liked all of them but they are all FAR from what vns really are)
If they didn't have this god tier shit twist and a proper ending would ZTD actually be good?
Only the atmosphere was great in Hotel Dusk. Everything else was mid, to be honest.
Is using the route guide from the remake cheating? I’m on DS and got one of the normal endings, axe and sub endings
best girl coming through
Raging Loop is very good but doesn't quite stick the landing at the end.
Sekimeiya is great but *very* plot driven, the characters aren't bad but they very much exist to serve the plot.
Paranormasight is just a very solid entry level visual novel. It doesn't try to break new ground or be too deep - it tells its story well, with a clean art style while introducing you to neat mechanical elements of the medium.
whore put shoes on
raging loop
overrated reddit tier trash
It's below 9000
DR was primarily a walking simulation.
This fag AGAIN proves he barely played the game and he thinks he has any rights in providing his opinion.
Shut yer ass up and play all the class trials THEN you can blabber about your conclusion.
read more vns, this shit isn't even top 25 lmao
It is a perfectly condensed package that has enough content and routes to build its universe and doesn't overstay its welcome. Reaching the true ending leaves you satisfied but still wanting for more. Perfect character design and style, good graphics, music is okay but it builds the atmosphere very well, perfect dialogue-gameplay balance. If you ask a vnigger for better vns he will list some 150+ hour powerpoint where characters aren't even animated and the same 3 backgrounds and tracks are repeated all through the game. Just writing isn't everything.
This.
Raging loop is CHEAP (literally, barely has any fucking backgrounds worth a shit, or decent CGIs) and extreeeemely long for the sake of being long and literally bored me to sleep more than a dozen times.
Fuck this piece of trash, avoid Raging Loop at ALL costs, or you'll hate VNs for the rest of your life
too bad the "gameplay" sections are god awful trial and error crap
Maybe, but the overall package of ZTD was just a confusing clusterfuck, it's like giving you pieces of the puzzle in a random order in your normal playthrough and THEN taking a massive shit in your face with that ending.
Oh and let's not forget the ABYSMAL animations in that game. Naah, even if the ending was kino and great, the overall game (the 99% of it) kinda sucked desu
It was fucked up of Akane to disappear on him after everything
Billions would die if she didn't.
If you ask a vnigger for better vns he will list some 150+ hour powerpoint where characters aren't even animated and the same 3 backgrounds and tracks are repeated all through the game.
a 150h vn can have exponentially more impact than a 20h one, which is the whole point. if you consider the playtime then yeah, saya is peak for being 6 hours long, same goes for 999 and aa3 which clock around 20h.
but a vn of 50, 100, 150, etc... is just on another level, it's hard to find something similar even here on Anon Babble
Hello I am Zero I would like to play a gaem
Actually I made you play this game to save a life
I am Zero I am going to have you play death game
I did it to save the world I'm the good guy you see
I am Zero this time I am the villain for sure
I did it to give you your happy ending because I love you all :)
It's good, unfortunately everything that came after it sucks.
Transitioning to 3D was a massive fucking mistake.
Kino
nooooo my series NEEDS a villain
Thanks for your time anon, take care!
wtf is this lovey dovey behavior in Anon Babble out of all places....?
Anyway not him, but DR1 isnt just class trials and "who dies next" for the whole game, there's an existing overall bigger plot, but saying what it is would be a major spoiler/twist. It's revealed near the end and it's much further expanded on in the sequels.
The class trials/murders is just a small part of the main plot and serves as gameplay
Is any of the science legit or is it all nonsense?
Yeah I jumped here from another universe just now
She didn't look hard enough for loopholes, or Junpei's cock
Bother someone until they let you into their room
Be a pushy dick with them until they tell you their life story
It's all somehow magically connected to a case gone cold from years ago
Repeat with every guest until the underwhelming mystery is finally solved
Yeah atmosphere was good but Last Window was better
But a 50 hour VN is still only going to have 20 hours of plot, they just stretch it out and pad it with tons of SoL crap. I've never read a VN over 20 hours that wasn't horribly paced and half filler.
Great but VLR is a masterpiece
Trash
But a 50 hour VN is still only going to have 20 hours of plot, they just stretch it out and pad it with tons of SoL crap.
there's a reason why 30 hours of sol crap is in there, instead of being a simple 20h long plot only. that's exactly what i'm talking about. like imagine steins;gate without the first half: it would've been shit. yet everybody bitches about the slow start without understanding why it's there in the first place
this is of course ignoring slop that has actual useless padding, but nobody is recommending you to play those
the final twist was way worse than anything ztd did. also puzzles were too hard, at least those for the golding file or whatever
Good adventure game its sequel is great too and the 3rd is so absurd its funny.
I played 999 for the first time the day it launched on pure coincidence.
I got one of those R4 cards for the DS and I wanted to test out if it worked. So I went to a ROM website and because it was alphabetically ordered 999 was on the top of the list as new releases.
I was 16 years old at the time in 2010. I got in completely blind, not even knowing the genre let alone story.
I started it up to test the card but it was so gripping I didn't let it go. I didn't sleep for 3 days straight and got all endings in a single playthrough.
When I finished it I got a form of depression that I still remember to this day 15 years later. It was the feeling that I will NEVER experience a story of the same caliber in my life ever again.
Worst is that this is actually true. I'm 31 years old now, a parent and a physicist (which the game largely inspired me to major in as a directionless teen) I have never experienced a story like this again. I've read close to a thousand books, most visual novels and almost all games released between 1998 and ~2012 yet there was nothing that came close.
VLR was still good but it wasn't on the same level as well as being more predictable, less concise and relying on the next entry to resolve plot threads which got fumbled in the third entry.
It's fucking insane how much this game has occupied my mental space over by now half of my life.
spoiler
Holy filtered, that's exactly what made vlr so good.
I'd like to play Hundred Line Defense Academy but want to know how much Uchikoshi was involved. Did he write most of the thing, or is it just mostly Kodaka DR nonsense?
no it's retarded and also full of plothole (i.e. water reflections)
13 Sentinels
Remember 11
Root Double
Uchi has been reusing the same twist since ever17
Hundred Line is almost only Kodaka. Uchikoshi has essentially a corner of the game that is dedicated to his usual nonsense, which can be ignored if you really want to (it's not part of the main plot)
none of it is nonsense. Most of it are real hypothesis or at the worst based on dubious research papers that are controversial but not dismissed by the time the stories came out. No straight up crackpot or schizo pseudoscience. But they are dialed to 11 and exaggerated for story reasoning.
True, but 999 was the only one where he actually executed it well and had the pacing perfected. Ever17 was a fucking slog for me to 100%
Uchikoshi has essentially a corner of the game that is dedicated to his usual nonsense, which can be ignored if you really want to (it's not part of the main plot)
Slasher?
Awesome game
Awesome story
Horrible last puzzle
chicken sandwich
kick the can
Uchikoshi fucking owes me good games.
Can anybody find Ryuki chasing the square head comedian webm for me, i want to see IT one more time:(
I LOVED 999 and VLR and enjoyed Ever17 and Fate/stay night. I also liked The world Ends with you and (to a lesser extent) steins;gate VN.
I really disliked danganronpa and muvluv trilogy (I finished both of them because people kept telling me how I would supposedly like them)
What are some other visual novels or games that I would love?
My problem with vns like steins;gate is that they're only impactful because they stockholm syndrome you into liking their characters by forcing you to spend 30 shit hours with them. They aren't actually well written or likable on their own merits for the most art.
please look forward to the next game!
Exactly and 999 has the exact amount of emotional weight and "punch" to it despite it having amazing pacing and a fast moving, concise plot.
Why can't other VNs do this?
Really cool concept and characters, but dragged down by too much sci-fi mumbo jumbo and a terrible ending.
What was the one VN with a bunch of different characters on a island?
999 - 6/10
VLR - 9/10
ZTD - 1/10
Best game in the series. VLR has much flatter characters and feels like it's trying too hard to be Danganronpa (or at least present itself that way on a surface level). ZTD is just dumb.
Danganronpa 2, it was garbage.
No, but if some retard would've been tricked into thinking the game was any good "LOLZ MIND HACK" was the final nail in the coffin.
Zero Time Dilemma is the best of the three because it stops taking itself seriously and just embraces the retardation.
THE DOG KILLED HIM?!
game gives you a timer to answer at gunpoint
the correct answer is letting the timer run out or saying "I don't know"
I'm still mad.
I hate Uchikoshi and his games so fucking much.
I already preordered new AI, just to see how that fucker fucked it Up this time.
Complex motives
999 kind of tricks you with its anime aesthetics because the actual writing isn't very anime at all. It reads more like michael crichton characters. Very mature and actually well developed, not two dimensional and multi-faceted.
That really catches you off guard and makes twists come out of nowhere as you never expect anime characters to have this amount of depth to them, as they never really do.
They toned this down in VLR where the writing feels far more "anime" or "light novel". I think this is precisely why VLR is so divisive. Half of the people think it's an improvement in writing because it feels more anime, like danganronpa which the target demographic of games looking like that wants. But the other half expected the cool juxtaposition of 999 to be continued in its sequel (like me) and were disappointed.
I mean it was still enjoyable but the Luna bird lamination ending was extremely sappy in the most over the top anime way ever.
Danganronpa pushed it so much towards anime it became "ironic weeb" levels and I just couldn't stomach it.
999 is legitimate literature and I sometimes which it never had an anime artstyle because that is a limiting factor to the audience it could have reached. I genuinely think it would have gained a mainstream audience if it was somehow represented differently while keeping the writing and pacing the same.
Great puzzles, great story, marathon sex with Akane.
She fucks you over in ZTD
Uchi worst game isn't ZTD or AI 2
It's Punch Line
t. BTFO by Hashimoto
how much does enjoying 999 involve messing around with all the different ending branches?
She fucks you over in every game.
Total akane death
almost only Kodaka.
Damn. Oh well.