GTA IV was made because Rockstar was ecstatic to see what they could do with 7th gen consoles; it was ambitious as...

GTA IV was made because Rockstar was ecstatic to see what they could do with 7th gen consoles; it was ambitious as fuck and made with a ton of passion. GTA V was made because Take 2 wanted Rockstar to make a new GTA game.

For me, the difference between GTA IV and V is that IV was a game in its own right while V was always reaching back to San Andreas. IV's Liberty City, for example, looks pretty much nothing like III's while V's Los Santos took entire parts of the map from LS. It even took things like the Grove Street Families and brought them back, whereas IV didn't bring back a single concept.

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I agree, gtav shouldnt exist

and which game has an active online game community that has existed for years now?

gtaiv was shit and you know it

I think the game sort of suffers from that passion working on vehicle destruction and ragdolls and AI reactions

If you have to resort to "online community" and not the actual game as your one cope, your game is dogshit. GTAV is dogshit.

Nico was a good man born into such bad circumstances. Out of all the GTA protagonists, he's the only one I want to not live in GTA.

True. Tommy kinda had it coming, and CJ is a dumb nigger.

GT...A?

GTA IV just feels too empty for an open world game.

the most content-heavy GTA game

"too empty"

are zoomers actually retarded?

IV was slower, the story wasn’t as crazy, the customization from SA was gone, but the game was good. It looked and played great. V was just IV with some of the SA stuff added. VI will be V with some of the SA stuff removed.

haven't played 4 but V is dead after finishing the main story.

There is fuck all to do outside of the missions, dont even bring up the friend hangouts.
Rampaging is fun for a bit and you can fill your garages with cars but theres nothing else. Fuck finding pigeons.

If you play every game around gta 5
You realise how bad it is
Mp3, rdr, gta4, rdr2 are all much better and had more effort put into them.

GTA5 felt like creatives giving up and saying "here have your sunny wacky slop"

Also civilians and NPCs spawn in gta v as you go, in IV, they are just there down the street

It was also seriously limited compared to San Andreas and the previous gen games. It lacked many key vehicles such as planes, tanks, and parachutes, the map was monotonous and boring, the side content was far more lacking, and the level design was far more boring and uninteresting.

you're just a low iq retard

You ARE a zoomer, retard. One of the biggest complaints at the time was how much content IV lost compared to SA and how empty the world feels.

Fact.

What made IV special was also the time it takes place in, a time capsule of a world that was better without all the shit we have today
Pre-facebook era, pre smartphone era, pre cultural decline basically
Gee I would've never thought that at one point in my life I was going to feel nostalgic about fucking 2008, but here I am

GTA5 did nothing wrong, die vidya hipster scum

REEE THE GAME DOESN'T HAVE LE PLANES!!11

This is the most stupid and ridiculous shit people criticized IV for, legit low iq

All GTA 4 needs is a mod to add Niko's fingerless gloves
kino

They both suck.
I liked 4 back in the day but the game aged poorly I think. So much of it is boring ass driving/filler and I couldn't bring myself to finish it.
It is better than gta 5 but the bar is pretty low.

nah, you're just a retard, GTA4 is great

GTA4 praise is just nostalgia niggers growing up and zoomers follow e-celeb opinion. GTA4 at the time was largely a by product of the "movie game" direction that plague the 2010s and essential killed Sony. More focus on graphics, realism, and production value to tell a sudo-reboot story while cutting old fun features, taking itself too seriously, and being much slower. GTA4 was known as the blacksheep for a reason. GTA4 was not R* setting a trend but following one

That’s part of the sickness of people. Everything is a checklist comparison. Nothing is to be appreciated for what is.

dumb zoomer

camping in the thread and replies after a millisecond

you just have the tism brainlet. I bet you're a faggot zoomer too.
Both 4 and 5 are boring ass games. Even SA went downhill in the later part of the story. GTA was only ever good on the graphic and tech side as a showcase of what hardware could do.

The main criticism is the amount of content that was removed for the sake of [nobody knows]

The way this game filters normies and zoomers to this day is commendable.

For me, 4 was the most forgettable out of all the 3D games, dunno why.

you can fill your garages

you don't even get a garage, you get a parking spot

because a huge chunk of it is literally just filler

go on some shitty date at x place

drive to x location 500 times

that's like the extent of what I can remember lmao. They focused a lot on the movie/realism aspect like said rather than making a fun game.

why are there so many gta 4 threads being made

some zoomer jewtuber probably uploaded a vid recently

the best GTA is GTA II.
Gouranga !

four years between sa and gta4

massive leap in tech and visuals

gtav came out 12 years ago

new leap will be gtav2 reaching 300 gig

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people hyped for 6 so 4fags gotta show up to ruin the fun

Should inplaybother GTAs, i only played 4 and i wasn't impressed. I mean yeah the cuty is impressive but as a game isnjust ok, the characters do dumb things and aren't consistent, the gameplay is pretty average, the level design of indoor areas is frankly not tht great. Really the open roam is the only thing is has going for it.

RDR2 was way more of a passion project than GTA IV

Its really stupid how there was only one city.

Brown and gray: the game.

Oni

I completely forget about that game

Stop noticing

That's the same problem of 5 and RDR2. I agree but if you use that criticism you can't say 5 is good

Who said V was good?

muhh nothing to do

It has the best driving, the best gunplay, the best physics, the most lived-in world, a revampted wanted system that makes police shootouts and chases actually fun, and a good amount of side activities like vigilante missions, street racing, drug deliveries and hitman assassinations

But I guess for brainlets the definition of ''content'' is just filling the map with 500 shitty minigames to make up for the fact that the core gameplay sucks complete ass like in San Andreas

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just saying in case there were any rdr2 dick riders itt

They should release a remaster of this before gta6 comes out.

I have the original on PS3 but it's unplayable because it looks like ass, so much bloom. And the controls have NOT aged well

4 is the worst and most boring gta. 4niggers have shit taste

but the driving and gunplay in gta 5 is better? explain how its better in 4 if its shittier and less fun. I don't care about muh ragdolls. you shitters never even played other GTA games

and which game has an active online game community

My guy, Rockstar of David straight up *deleted* IV's multiplayer several years ago. I was playing that shit, man.

vigilante missions, street racing, drug deliveries and hitman assassinations

All those are just drive to X location. IV has abysmal mission variety

You're a literal mental midget

It has the best driving, the best gunplay,

no it doesn't, this is something it was panned for even back then, let alone fucking today kek.
I'll give you the physics being good but the gameplay feels like shit today. You haven't played this game since it came out or you never played the other games.

It was a technical mess that ran horribly and couldn't its loading sequence up to match player movement. It was a drab, tepid city with no memorable spots, characters or plot points. They were too busy smelling their own farts to figure out people didn't want to be called every 5 minutes to go fucking bowling.

Everything you said also applies to V, so why is that le bad and IV is le good? Because you grew up with it?

Wow you and 2008 game journalist got filtered by the driving. Says a lot about you.

i like less popular thing so r smart

you're retarded. once 6 is out faggots like you will be saying 5 was muh hidden jims. You only like 4 to be contrarian. when it came out it was universally seen as a downgrade to SA while 5 was a return to form. GTA is not supposed to be hollywood slop with movie plots for retards like you. It's supposed to be funny.

the driving is shit retard
stop using that zoomer buzzword as if it absolves games of being shit.

Filtered.

correct, by bad games.
Not gonna lie I think even 3 is better than 4 kek.

I mean you are obviously right. when you look at comparisons between 3 and 4 somehow 4 looks far worse. youtube.com/watch?v=lm6eqBdW6yI

foggy 10 fps dogshit

the gta 3 artstyle/visuals look so good even today. It's a sign of a timeless classic vs. that depressed emo gta 4 look everyone hates.
I remember guns and shit being busted as hell too, way more fun than gta 4 if you wanted to fuck around.

I find it funny how a big point of criticize for RDR2 is the horse balls shrink for annoying realism yet GTA4 is praised when all the game has outside of driving and shooting is NPCs bugging the fuck out of you to hang out then getting mad when you're busy.

The driving in 5 is on rails fucking garbage where every car is glued to the road, braindead shit for babies. Gunplay sucks too, guns sound like shit, enemies barely react to getting shot, pedestrians literally die from being shot in the foot once. God, don't remind me of how hard GTAV fucking SUCKS

I hope whoever thought it was a good idea to nag you with phonecalls about bowling got fired, it was just terrible.

Muh ''mission variety'' in San Andreas amounts to

drive to x place

do shitty minigame

or

drive to x place

stack boxes with a forklift

GTAIV doesn't waste your time with shitty gimmicks because the core gameplay is actually good

filtered. GTA 5 has the best driving and 4 has the worst. You need more gaming experience.

filtered. SA has far better gameplay

I don't care about muh ragdolls

Then you have shit taste. All guns in V feels like you're shooting paintballs.

filtered

by babymode easy driving

Nope, you got filtered

San Andreas aged like shit

auto aim shooting

guns sound like popcorn popping

enemies barely react to getting shot

somehow feels worse than GTA3 and VC

If a game with SA's gunplay released today it would genuinely get 2/10's

filtered. you need better taste to get it. you'll see the light when 6 comes out and you can be a contrarian who says 5 is better.

I'm sorry you got filtered by the greatest GTA game. Maybe another series will fit your shit taste

if idolninja had finish porting sainst row 2 on pc
gta iv would have been forgotten for good

saints rows existence is proof of just how bad 4 was. the series died as soon as a good GTA (5) was released

AHHH THE CHARACTERS CALL YOU ONCE EVERY 45 MINUTES WHICH YOU CAN CANCEL INSTANTLY WITH A BUTTON PRESS (and disable in the options) HELP ME NIGGERMAN

san andreas forcing you to eat constantly because muh realism is gud tho :)

Peak NPC complaint

Sharts row 2 gets mogged to hell and back by GTAIV lmao

no need to keep the servers up and running for you and the three other guys

Filtered + cope

GTA 4 came out in 2008 dipshit. Way before the movie game phenomenon.

So yes, it was a trend setter. Even things like the break and accelerator being moved from the face buttons to the shoulder buttons where things that went on to become an industry standard afterwards.

many people don't even realize IV has better physics than V

he thinks movie game shit was before 2010

it plagued the 2010s but gained traction before it. Let us not forget that MGS4 came out around GTA4 and had more cutscene than gameplay. way more than previous MGS games. Or Heavy Rain the premier movie game

no need to keep unmonetized servers up and running

fixed

If the cars in VI handle more like the newer cars in Online then at least when it comes to driving VI will definitely be better than V.
With base games cars, you literally cannot drift. Driving over curbs gives you a speed boost. It’s terrible.

Heavy Rain came out two years after IV.

jej cry. gta 4 will always be ugly brown dogshit carried entirely by its free mode

RDR 2 was Houser's magnum opus. Say what you want about how clunky or slow it is but RDR 2 built upon the foundation GTA IV set up while taking very little influence from their work on GTA V. I'm hoping GTA VI will do the same.

i will never understand the decision to make a tiny town on the absolute opposite side of the fucking map, that takes like, 5 minutes to reach and is mandatory for several missions

the only explanation possible is they were going to make san francisco but decided it would be too much work

just like
take a fucking taxi

limitation of ps3/xbox360
512 RAM

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you can't telelport in online

it's much more fun when you use touhou mod
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6 gets hype
5 is lame
4 is beloved by rusbots

Have they fixed the definitive trilogy?
I'm uncertain which version to pirate (original or new).

sort of
stil looks like shit
just emulate the ps2 version with crt shader
Those games were never meant for HD

gta iv hits different. I love coming back to it and 3

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It's not readily apparent to you that the "definitive" trilogy is completely unsalvagable? Pirate the originals you muppet

GTA4 is extremely soulless and barebones.

Original version, get the Rosa texture project and Proper Fixes mods along with SkyGfx to give you the PS2 color grading and visual effects.

I enjoyed IV's multiplayer.
I did not enjoy Online.

look like a horror game, everyone looks fucking zombies
guess if you are a slav used to shit weather...

I'll be bookmarking the thread and waiting for you to recreate my webm in V

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UHM and which game is the braindead skinner box milkcow??

lol you just proved his point you fucking retard

taking itself too seriously

Never understood this. GTA4 is funny as fuck. The story isn't melodramatic except the Revenge ending in my opinion.

This is the kind of attitude that leads to reddit humor

5 is a cartoon

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man i loved fucking around with bikes in gta so much
in terms of surviving the actual missions it was retarded and risky, but whenever i saw a bike i would get out of my car and take it

so much time spent taking lance vance in gta vice city and driving full speed into the marina fence catapulting him off the rear into the ocean like a looney tunes skit laughing our asses off'
SOUL

Nigger what? Imagine seeing this in literally any other GTA

yeah vice city had better motorcycles than Ubisoft 5

why did rockstar give up on physics?

this game was so fucking disappointing after gta sa
ps2 gta > realism, brown filter, dogshit driving

They couldn't afford to license Euphora for V but all the 9 year olds maxing out their mom's credit card allowed Take Two to buy the company.

GTA 4 fucking SUCKED. So god damn boring, lame story, bad audio mix, poss and haze filter on half the time, no in world interactivity, shit driving. They legitimately took all of the fun out that was built up in SA and made a generic nothing empty open world game.

modern games all gave up on it
half life from 2004 has better physics than any aaa game today.
I imagine most of the resources are being used up on visuals so not much juice is left for realistic physics.

libshit garbage
slavs are proud of killing muzzies

You didn't play the game.

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Saints Row 2 mogs this boring dogshit so much.
I can't imagine liking GTA IV unless you were a 10 year old zoomer faggot who played it when they were 10 and squeaked in the online mode

Sure it sucks. Wait till you see every other game. There's not a single better game made before or after.

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online

not my problem

garbage driving, garbage shooting, garbage AI, garbage story, garbage map

mogging anything, let alone GTAIV

SR2troons are even more delusional than SAfaggots

You KYS. It's the most barebones game in the series. Even more so than GTA3. Massive step down from San Andreas. It's a glorified tech demo with a shit cast of characters and an even worse story.

gta games are so boring to me. I have no interest in sandbox (haha you can kill cops and drive over people, zzzzzz) and the missions are on rails setpieces. The gameplay is the same from the first minute until the end. It just bores me to death to never have to learn or be challenged or adapt. And then there's the cutscene cancer, although ill admit the writing is general above average

yeah try max payne 3. only rockstar game besides midnight club LA that i like

shut the fuck with the glorified demo buzzword garbage, it's insane one can quantify how fucking stupid you truly are just by your choice of words

Let's see your San Andreas drift or stunt montage. Oh wait you don't have any physics.

this game was so fucking good after gta sa
gta4 > realism, brown protagonist, dogshit driving and shooting

weird how people spout a lot of bullshit but never have a webm to back them up

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All GTAs turn soulless and boring once you have done all the story missions.
Whole world is so fake.

scroll up big guy

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V was always reaching back to San Andreas

even though 4 is basically a remake of 3

retard

The most annoying character of all time. TBoGT has such a terrible supporting cast.

complete upgrade of the core gameplay in every aspect

WAHHHH it's a downgrade cause no shitty gym button mashing minigame and purple dildo1!!

Kill all san andreas nostalgiafaggots, most mentally stunted fanbase in vidya. Bet you haven't even played that shit game in 20 years

I just want to drive around in GTA IV's map using the latest engine with ray tracing and keep the original physics for driving and euphoria.

if you mean physics in V it was because of the ancient console hardware shitting itself

Everything still moves like your underwater

lmao, guess that why they drive like boats

Nice. GTA V mogged by San Andreas.

for me, it's GTA5 with car+gun mods.

this is something it was panned for even back then, let alone fucking today kek.

What are you talking about, even back then it agreed to be better than its predecessors in that area.

GTA4 is an unfinished tech demo. It has no content. It's the most barebones GTA game ever made. GTA5 is what the sequel to San Andreas actually is. They tried to fix the glaring flaws of GTA4 with the expansions, and it failed. This is what happens to when you get circumcised. You become a low IQ pavement monkey.

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WE GETTIN' ARAB MONEY

WE GETTIN' ARAB MONEY

The physics engine is the content. No one cares about your "press button to watch animation" barbie dress up slop.

my first GTA-Vniggers defending playing as cuck

always

LMAO

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entire map is just one giant city with little variety outside of skyscrapers and apartment blocks, so driving gets boring quick

police are completely braindead and worthless

everything is brown, gray, and gritty

MC is a spineless pushover cuck

almost every character is unlikable

extremely, extremely repetitive mission structure

every single mission devolves into drive here, mow down a ton of people

later missions rarely even involve NPCs in the car and at a certain point, every mission is just an all-out firefight; the game is scared to let you have just one mission that doesn't involve mindlessly mowing down mobs of braindead goons

no checkpoints so must restart from beginning if you die or step one toe out of line

gunplay is absolute garbage. With controller, cursor moves very fast vertically/horizontally, but at any angle at all it moves very slow, which leads to very janky aiming. There is a regular zoom-in when free aiming, but lock-on inexplicably zooms the camera in way more, but yet is completely worthless since enemies just stay behind cover. Even when an enemy is right on top of you, half the time, the lock-on will twist you to an enemy fifty feet away instead of the enemy right on top of you. Free aiming and just popping headshots completely trivializes the combat.

movement feels extremely slow and clunky

every car from sports car to an armored truck drives like a damn barge, and yet will flip on a dime to even something like a cyclist

have to restock health and buy armor between every mission by the halfway point because every mission becomes a massive gunfight

frequently enemies you are chasing will have plot armor where you are meant to just go on some scripted bullshit chase before you can actually kill them, and there is no way to tell they have plot armor besides just shooting them a ton and they never die.

literally only defended by shitskin zoombers who played it on their shitbox in 2008

GTAIV is bland, boring, hideous dogshit

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white boy summer

literally the themesong to 6

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4 is the only gta i couldnt get hooked into, it always felt like something was missing, like it wasnt a true gta but a really good gta clone

TRVTH NVKE

HIVfag coping about IV being the best because it's le realistic even though SA/V are much more popular

IV was a mistake that should've never been done. At best it should've been a different game called something like "generic boomer fantasy simulator" so we wouldn't have to deal with HIVfags at all.

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kys frogniggers

Based.4 has always sucked ass

HIVfags

lmao

it's because you are white, I understand

4tranny thinks Anon Babble replies are le reddit updoots

go back

The only GTA to do side content right was CTWs because there was an incentive to actually do it and get you to explore the city. Meanwhile the 3D-era gets glazed to death for its terrible side content. Did anyone actually have fun having to find all packages across all the PS2 GTAs?

so that's why V is better and I hate IV

ah so the game is bad because you can't press the brake before taking a 90 degree corner
sounds like a skill issue don't you think?

Uhhh trannies? Zoomers were literally playing GTA SA when it came out in 2004. SA is also a zoomer game.

for me, it just felt soulless compared to the other gtas. Playing the dlc made that even more apparant to me

IV is "too serious"
V is too retarded

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Probably because Rockstar made the effort to write a story, world and characters instead of ripping off movies so it was completely lost on you, so they decided it wasn’t worth it and went back to ripping off movies in GTA V.

Base game sure but I felt like TBoGT redeemed the game for me a bit, something about the club vibe and the characters you do missions for was a lot more appealing and earnest than Nico's muh revenge story, even if Nico is a better character than Luis. Tony constantly fucking his life up ended up being more funny than annoying and Yusuf is a bit of a laugh, they're both at least more entertaining than generic italian mob boss #11 that Nico has to deal with.
Or maybe it just felt way better cause I swapped to controller for the DLCs, the mouse aiming is fucked up on that game. Unbelievably shit PC port.

I don't even know why anons shit on V Online, at least it's better than the emabressing story split between cuck Soprano, a joyless nig, and a reddit cannibal.

Muh nostalga

You faggots were saying this back in 2013

IV Remaster rumors

What are you talking about, GTA IV is just as egregious in ripping off movies as the rest of the series. More so even.

rumors

they'll need to shove somting for Xmas

The worst thing about gta 5 is that the online mode is an absolute scam, a blight to the industry, and insult to the medium, and insult to humanity itself, a long term social engineering experiement, and all of this made by a front for the military industrial complex.

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exactly. the 15 year old underage& zoomers who defending gta 4 in 2013 are now full blown adult tranny groomers still defending this dogshit in between their erp session with gen alphas on discord

loved the san andreas remaster LMAO

he doesn't have 3 friends

I'm sorry anon.

IV went after off the tone and aesthetic of mid/late 2000s crime-dramas much like 3 was created because the devs used the world around them as an inspiration. Meanwhile, VC, SA and V literally rip off Scarface, Boyz in the Hood and Heat.

I'm a sucker for cool physics in videogames and V was a colossal downgrade from IV in that aspect

I think the missions are a bit lack luster and repetitive, and unlike vice city and SA, IV is always the same concrete jungle. There is barely any change of scenery. I love IV to death though. Its for people with refined taste

6 will have euphoria, T2 bought the company and the tech outright

The more wild part to me is that GTA3 came just three years after the original.

psudeo-reboot my bad

It's been years since I last played GTAIV but that game's tech is still as memorable as the first time I played it. The world just felt so alive.

no u

hah he admits he got filtered

6 will have euphoria

yeah no shit, every Rockstar game since GTA IV had it

it was a different time

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They realized if you focus on physics too much you get a shitty game

that floaty driving is so unrealistic and terrible. I'm glad they fixed it with 5

truth nvke

Boat cars in 4 are less unrealistic than every car in 5 being able to take any corner at any speed without braking whatsoever and having zero momentum

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>massive leap in tech and visuals

it was mostly the third party Euphoria engine and visuals (higher polycounts and advanced shaders), mechanically the game is the same since GTA 3

True, but it's better for gameplay than BOATS.
It's an action game, not a racing sim.

Much better than 4. You flip your car in 4 if you turn going 10 mph. The only people who can stand 4 driving never drove a car in real life

it might be unrealistic at high speed but its more realistic than 4 at cruising speed. You don't flip your car when you turn going 10 mph

by what I meant to say GTA 2 to 3 was a much bigger leap than SA to IV

driving is easy in real life

Driving that actually requires a little effort from the player makes for a deeper game.

it made up for it by being an upgrade in gameplay, story, character, map size, etc. And some of the physics in 4 are dogshit like the driving. so 5 improved those physics

GTA IV focused heavily on drive/run and gun because they realized a lot of the missions that focused on the gimmicks were lent fun at all. Remember how shit the Demolition Man mission in VC was? Remember how San Andreas committed the cardinal sin of having players grind their breathing stat to complete Wu-Zi’s missions? How lame as lame using the forklift was in SA and VCS? All of this shit was not fun to play. But apparently, Rockstar listened to you crybabies which is why they brought back the shitty gimmick missions in GTA V. The worst mission in V is no different than the gimmick trash missions from 3D-era GTA.

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IV was not very good and was underwhelming to play after SA scope. V was made to being back the greatness because fans were not happy with IV.

Retard. The driving is significantly worse. Floaty bullshit is not difficulty but annoyance. Driving in 4 is piss easy you aren't special. But its awful physics mean you can't turn without slowing to a crawl

That mission is more fun than any mission in GTA 4

None of the mechanics in any GTA games are deep, 5 being the most shallow. I've spent most of my time in 5 modding every aspect of it to be more "real" and interesting, it's fun but it's certainly not what the average gamer would want.
4's driving is still ridiculous.

are you seriously saying 5 has good characters
lol
lmao even
furthermore, rofl

it made up for it by being an upgrade in gameplay, story, character, map size,

I liked how all the antagonists that everyone forgot about were killed in one mission. Also liked how the intimidating cartel boss was defanged and forgotten about because Trevor was LE HECCIN CRAZY!!

bring back the greatness

V

LMAO
found the sharkcard zoombot

I welcome variety but yeah, here's "mini-game" 27 mission weren't fun. Partly why I never finished 5 but did finish 4 and the DLCs.

Unfortunately I'm socially maladjusted and possibly autistic, and I don't know how to come across people I'd enjoy and have fun interacting with, and also be at peace with.
I've played with others a few times, but it's only ever really enjoyable if it's a crowd already and I don't have to carry the water of socialization.

I literally cannot play it because I hate NYC and have been there too many times

Why can't I play with bots, fuck you.
I'm too old to find 3 faggots to play with like a fortnite groomer.

GTA4 has like the slowest start in the franchise. I mean like the third mission is an awkward as fuck bowling date

5 is the odd one out. the cars were always floaty

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Seething nigger, iv is shit. Now go circlejerk your favorite shituber.

there is a GTAO general on Anon Babble tho I haven't been there in years, maybe you can find other autists to play with

name 3 games with good characters made in the last 15 years

You mean the mission that gives you the option to abandon because Roman is getting jumped by Albanian loansharks?

They should release a remaster of this before gta6 comes out.

There are a few rumors about that, I'm sure you read them, but I'm 100% sure that is just a cheap rehash with nothing to show for, much like the San Andreas or RDR1 was.

Abandon

no you still have to do it

This, just buy the fucking sharkcard!

I miss IP counters.

What the fuck are you talking about.
1. The game is literally called STEALING CARS. It is a driving game.
2. The driving mechanics are the same as every other good car game like Live for Speed, 1nsane, Need for Speed Porsche Unleashed, Wreckfest, BeamNG, Assetto Corsa etc etc

No, the mission starts out as a date, but before you go see her, Roman calls you because he’s getting jumped.

5 didn’t improve the physics. There are multiple aspects to car physics outside of the driving itself that are worse than 4.

cuck Soprano, a joyless nig, and a reddit cannibal

lmao, that's V allright

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You still have to do the mission, it isn't optional. You choose which one to do first but you still have to do the date. Did you even play the game within the last decade/at all

island map

Stop this shit already, it's so immersion breaking.

t. crowbob glazer

Nostalgia and video essays are one hell of a drug

sperging out they didn't make the entire continent

I've posted there quite a lot. There are a couple of Anon's in there are are willing to play together, and I've played with them a few times, but there's no social interaction outside of text. They're alright, just asocial to anti-social. I don't know if it's risk aversion or what.

No, I remember how this goes: first you do the mission to pick up Michelle and Roman’s GF, then you unlock First Date. When you start First Date, you get the option to proceed with the date OR Dave Roman. Dating Michelle is optional after this.

No it doesn't you can literally look up this is wrong

probably don't even speak English

average gta 4 fan

nah you have to go on the bowling date whether you like it or not

Post proof because this is how it always play out for me.

It's 2025, time to join a Discord if you want to chat in-game.

Try the Blista it slides like a dream. Best car in III

Gta4 still has that wannabe pulp fiction writing.

Gta5 has cringe millennial writing. Especially with Trevor.

I may as well have never touched discord a day in my life. I have almost no familiarity with any of it.

In order to continue Roman's mission strain, First Date needs to be completed. You don't even get the Roman call when you start first date but on the way to the mission start

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it's just IRC+teamspeak

Not any different than the Brazilians SAfags who were too poor to upgrade to the next Gen.

the GTAO on ps3 is still fun, btw

but on the way to the mission start

That’s literally what I was talking about.

You can't skip First Date man the mission isn't completed until you activate the cutscene and do the bowling date

whether you choose to ignore roman or blow off michelle you still have to do both. pro tip you get knife from Dardan

One more year of this shit before VI...

No, it's not connected to the mainland which makes the whole map look weird and immersion breaking.

the curbs in GTA V are fucked beyond repair

GTA IV doesn't even use dedicated servers. It was all P2P and stored your character data on PSN/XBL/GFWL. They literally removed it to keep players from playing it, this is why you can downgrade the PC version and continue to play online.

Okay, now I remember. I remember going out of my way to go on dates because I liked the extra dialogue you’d get from Niko, so it all blended together. I haven’t played IV since 2016.

The content is all the things you can do with said "physics engine." It doesn't have anything that defined PS2 GTA. Why do you think they went back to that kind of content in GTA5? Because that's what GTA is.

just use weight transfer to initiate a slide
can you even drive a car

You don't even have to do bowling, you can cancel the game instantly. Not sure how this is any worse than SA's early missions

drive here

get a haircut

drive there

spray some tags

I love GTA, my favorite game series.

It doesn't have anything that defined PS2 GTA. Why do you think they went back to that kind of content in GTA5? Because that's what GTA is.

And it was just as shallow as it was in the PS2 era, but people can only think on the level of quantity over quality. Stats, modifications and weapons; people hyped their return so much but the my were so meaningless in the long run.

IV was shit and inferior to SA in every single aspect.

SA was shit and inferior to IV in every single aspect.

This, I hated how IV’s guns didn’t sound like BB guns.

San Andreas picks up a lot faster than GTA4 it doesn't really get interesting until you kill Vlad. After the spray tags San Andreas starts picking up

both 4 and SA are ugly shit
but you gramps never knew better
I'll play if they remaster 4 when it finally looks acceptable

I like all GTAs. Not a single one disappointed me. I always found something to love in them. San Andreas is my favorite one, of course.

GTA IV

ambitious

explain why it's lacking a fuckton of shit from SA then, that was their last truly ambitious game

ah yes because a faggot who wants to bowl and a russian depressed guy are such great characters. I can't think of a single good character from 4 besides brucie

this
gamer's game

Nah not in san andreas or 5

Same except for 4. It puts me to sleep and I can never finish it.

Because they went back to basics ala GTA 3 and focused on the strengths of the series and cut back on the filler introduced. That era of GTA IV, TLATD, TBOGT and CTW is insane because it really builds up Liberty City as the epicenter of the series.

GTA4 picks up right away because it's immediately fun to drive around, find cool cars, play with the vehicle physics, exploring the first island, finding one of the many weapon pickups, fucking around with the cops, etc.

Didn’t both IV and SA open up the same way? You end up in LC/LS and then you ride to the location to start the story? IV had the diamonds and drugs in the first cutscene, while SA had CJ getting held down by Tenpenny and Pulaski.

unironically same. I just like driving around and committing crimes. simple as

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and I cant think of a single memorable character from 5 other than the cripple guy who does the heist plans and shit
michael, trevor aren't cool or interesting, and franklin might as well not even exist

I just like driving and listening to the radio, pulling up and murdering a woman NPC with a bat and driving back again.
Blacks I shoot.

The cartel boss should have been the actual main antagonist in V. What were they thinking?

There is nothing memorable about V' s story
The map is great tho

The map is great tho

literally fuckall to do in all that wilderness outside the city
could have been great, ended up being wasted potential

I just finished it for the 2nd time yesterday (1st time was like in 2010)
It's just boring, honestly. I had way more fun when back then just messing around, but I think V is better for that now.
The missions are ALL a snooze. Go to place, shoot it up, maybe chase a guy (sometimes the guy you are chasing can't be killed, game doesnt tell you or if you do kill the guy you lose the mission).
The story is bad too, granted it's a video game. I found myself asking "why is Niko doing this mission?" And time and time again it's to get more money. Even after the bank job. There are a few times he's doing it to find Dorvo or whatever his name is. I just couldn't find myself caring.
The only good part about the driving is that sports cars actually handle far better when compared to normal cars. I say GTAV is a straight upgrade in virtually every department.

Wrong.
Map is there to drive, also Online has double the content than the story mode.

much freemode

retarded zoomers
just play the heists and collect cars, the actual content

This, the sharkcards also made it better than IV too.

4 was basically a benchmark test for the xbox 360. It was built from the ground up for the 360 hardware and may as well have been exclusive because the PC and ps3 ports were dogwater compared to the definitive 360 version. God forbid if it was designed for the ps3. It would've been a disaster. Microsoft jumping into snap up 4 is probably what saved the franchise.

that describe 5. 4 starts out with a bunch of bullshit like having to go on a date with some bitch and take your cousin on errands

Every character you listed from 5 is better than everyone in 4. You just have shit taste and think GTA should be gay serious hollywood slop

5 would have been good if you could play as Lamar, he's hilarious.

Your sarcasm isn't appreciated. How about actually addressing the points I made?

Microsoft jumping into snap up 4 is probably what saved the franchise.

microsoft had nothing to do with 4 though? it was released on xbox and ps simultaneously

mogs yer game

sorry not sorry

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The story is bad too, granted it's a video game. I found myself asking "why is Niko doing this mission?"

Because you’re a retard who can’t pay attention to something as basic as GTA so I decided to make fun of you instead.

I do not condone sexual assault.
They should make a spin-off title with the acronym CSAM just to fuck with search engines.

Lamar is the only good character in V. You know they actually had Wee-Bay from The Wire in V? Oh right, they never used him outside of like three missions.

They partially funded it by giving 50m towards it (and got both DLCs as timed exclusives out of it) and made the 360 the lead platform for development which at the time was a masterful decision because the ps3 was awful to work with and it took devs half a generation to even get to grips with it. So without MS stepping in and ps3 being the lead platform, it wouldve been a completely different game and who know what they'd have had to cut from it.

Why is he helping out Manny? Why Playboy X? Why the mobsters? Ray was the only guy actually trying to find the guy for him. Then it was the old guy with the Fed guy. And you are really just doing a variety of chores for them when you do help anyone. All go to X, kill Y. Drive, shoot, drive, shoot. More like drive, snooze.

The wire is dogshit hollywood slop. No wonder you think 4 is good lmao

I see. I couldn't find that when i tried to look it up. Thanks

The annoying thing in V, is how many locations in the world aren't used at all. Not to mention how empty and boring the world is, there's really nothing to do, as well as the properties being pointless.
I mean who the fuck wants to play a shitty version of tennis or fucking yoga?

not a slav pirating GATIV on a 5-year-old toaster in high school

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most of the missions in 5 were stupid work-sim busy work

Why is he helping out Manny? Why Playboy X?

Money because the Russians chased him and Roman out of above Beach.

Why the mobsters?

You literally explained it. He wanted to get closer to finding his special someone. Ray found him Bernie Crane, and decided to stick with the mob because they provided protection from Dimitri.

All go to X, kill Y. Drive, shoot, drive, shoot.

OH MY REDDIT THE CRIMINAL SIMULATOR IS MAKING ME DO CRIMINAL THINGS?! SAVE ME TREVOR

I genuinely can't even remember the main villain in V. I vaguely remember some rich guy and some bland FBI guy.

The annoying thing in V, is how many locations in the world aren't used at all. Not to mention how empty and boring the world is, there's really nothing to do, as well as the properties being pointless.

They wanted to recreate the GTA SA experience.

IV = SA = III > VC > V

if there's nothing to do in 5 then 4 is definitely unplayable. 5 has the largest variety in side missions and activities

The entire map was outsourced to third-world studios at a high cost so the main developers could deliver the game on time.
GTAO used all the map during the last ~12 years of constant updates, at the cost of single player DLCs.

It was boring and wasn't keeping me interested. The stories of RDR1&2, SA, and V were all keeping me engaged.

Other way around, when V cut down vigilante mode to just three missions I knew it was inferior to IV.

Awful taste. Real ranking: SA>VC>III>V>IV

with a huge gap between 4 and 5.

Grand Theft Auto IV's online at least was MTX-free, unlike the cancer of Grand Theft Auto Online.

all that shit sounds incredibly dull and out of place for a GTA game. it sounds like some awful movie. 4 is the kind of game liked by people who smell their own farts.

You're retarded and didn't play both games if you really think that means 4 has more activities than 5.

Like I said, you are a retard. I can’t do nothing about that.

and some chinks
the last mission is you killed all three of them as each other if you decide not to kill Trevor and get the "happy" ending
shit's retarded AS FUCK

playing any GTA in online multiplayer

no thanks

I completely understand the love for IV because the engine and physics were pretty groundbreaking, plus it had a genuine new gen leap feel about it and came at those peak youtube years.

I remember in 2008 when virtually every youtube video was The Dark Knight or GTA IV videos for months.

IV's driving, gunplay and physics beat V any day. Just driving around fast in Liberty City felt truly intense and like you were on the brink of death at any moment.

I'm not the retard defending a bad video game. I'm just sharing my honest feelings from the lackluster time I had the past few days going through this supposed "masterpiece" again.

There nothing to do in IV, except turn around and kill each other.
All of V's DLCs are in Online Mode.

Vigilante mode >>>>>>>>>> playing yoga

IV online was basic but it was just plain fun fucking around in the airport. Nobody cared about money or weapons, it was just chaos as it should be.

V is complete fucking garbage, penalties for blowing up someone car in a GTA game is straight up cancer.

I’m not a retard

defends SA and V’s awful stories

lol

San Andres and vice city?

can't fix shit taste. the numbers speak for themselves. There's a reason 5 sold 10x more copies. It's not because it's worse.

the heisting on v's storyline makes it less fun to replay

fucking hate the Rockstar UI so much it's unreal. i can't remember how many times I've died in those games because of the ultra tiny, super minimalistic, bearly visible interface. it's like designers wanted to make the shittiest UI ever

heists are terrible. Definitely the worst part of 5

By DLCs you mean the handful of generic missions they pump out every few months. Which are almost exclusively

drive here

kill bunch of people

pick up package

drive back to location

The heists are fun but unless you have 3 friends, preferably with mics, they are totally unplayable.

Because the industry went a long way since 2008 and GTAs were the equivalent of Marvel-tier movies on top of Take-Two only ever rereleasing V across three consoles?

why would you want all that screen clutter? the minimalist UI is better. top screen almost looks like an mmo it's ridiculous

Iv was ass and dumbed down ultra gritty sloppa.

I always loved running people over in IV, the cars actually felt weighty as hell

Cope. It's because its significantly better. The video game market has only grown about 3x since 2008 but it sold 10x more.

People don't understand that GTAO is just a Farming Simulator with guns where people in invite-only lobbies grind daily together for autistic fun, with the end goal to collect digital cars.

while V's Los Santos took entire parts of the map from LS

What are you talking about? Which parts?

Ironically, zoomers are the ones that push the GTA IV nostalgia narrative harder than anybody else, since they didn't actually play the game on release (or play the games that preceded it). At the time of GTA IV's release, people were impressed by the next-gen aspects of it and the novelty of the rudimentary online mode, but were otherwise disappointed at what a massive downgrade it was to SA in terms of content/gameplay. People were expecting a lot more out of the "next-gen GTA", and it fucking sucked as an open world sandbox to fuck around in (which is what I wager most people actually like GTA for). A lot of people at the time also hated the driving physics and the grittier story, and it was probably the worst game in the entire franchise when it came to "go here, tail this guy, go here" style missions.

It's only after GTA V came out that all the nostalgianiggers started fawning over "muh technology" in GTA IV and started trying to gaslight people into remembering it as better than it really was, and I fucking guarantee you that 5-10 years from now, we're going to have nostalgianiggers for GTA V doing the exact same thing.

Zoomers are the same people who played GTA SA went it came out in 2004.

but unless you have 3 friends, preferably with mics, they are totally unplayable.

it's the internet, faggot
find some

I've only played PS3/4 V online but the only fun I've ever had there, was those few months hackers kept giving people millions of free money.
I remember entire lobbies would be people flying around in jets and rolling tanks out. That's how GTA online should be, but nope, they've monetised it all now.

What are things that GTA V did better? Because I can't play more than 5 hours before getting too bored, every mission feels so long and scripted it kills my interest and I find removing things such as crouching and having to fully rely on taking cover baffling

I remember entire lobbies would be people flying around in jets and rolling tanks out.

it's still like that in freemode, for sharkcard kids
everyone else is grinding for cash to buy the flying bike

Kids shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the internet, correct. Yet shitty parents are the majority, so enjoy this cancer.

Rockstar has a problem with the "more immersive = better" philosophy. Terribly designed UI has been the flaw of their games since GTA3, but at least back then, you could actually see it. Like yeah the placement of everything is retarded but at least it's decently visiable unlike in all of their games after Bully

All three protags in V are fucking lame.

Michael

Middle age, fat loser, who they try and force to be "intimidating"

Trevor

Lame edge lord who eats people, kills people and does drugs, but racism and homophobia is too heckin' far

Franklin

Holy fuck how can you write such a boring black guy?

but were otherwise disappointed at what a massive downgrade it was to SA in terms of content/gameplay.

These are the same people who overhyped GTA V went it brought back all the gimmicks that SA had, the same ones that everyone forgot about a week after it came out because they didn’t amount to much in the long run, just like in SA.

They'll never make the world feel as alive as RDR2.

Brought back the planes, better vehicle and weapon variety, Director mode in PS4, world is more immersive.

Franklin is the worst, every time there is a stunt or meeting new NPCs he just kills the fun with his bitch whining, Larmar was 100% right about him.

I have fonder memories of IV, but I was like fucking 16 when it came out so life was just happier in general.

it's set in Miami
it'll be filled with spic and nogs instead of trees

better vehicle

lol

world is more immersive

lmao even

weapon variety

null when the actual gunplay feels inferior

The weapon variety in V sucked because they gimped the sound effects and the rag doll effects of IV. On top of that, some of the weapons were straight up better than others. IV-era guns were distinct and sounded much stronger.

I'm goging to enjoy RDR2's gunplay in GTA6

The gunplay is objectively better, but even with the variety of weapons, they all end up sounding and feeling the same.
Some people say the soundtrack (the ambient stuff in missions) is a good addition and I agree.
Planes and jets are better than any GTA game.

That's honestly all I have. I found the radio to be complete shit and all the mini games are garbage.

brown and piss 7th gen rockshit slop

Imagine having nostalgia for this pile of crap
Back to plebbit

franklin is a black character written as a white one

Only if you're talking about the absolute earliest zoomers (who blend in with late millennials culturally, and who would have still been little kids when the games released in any case). The average age of a zoomer right now is ~20 years old.

To the contrary, the gimmicks and non-stop sandbox content are what have kept people playing the garbage hackfest that is GTA online for the past decade.