Why is it like this?
Why is it like this?
delusional tendies and timmies will somehow spin this around to being bad
valve got their foot in the door first
AAA can't mooch long enough through restricting the market to break even off their shit games. They feel their repercussions a hundred fold.
customer service
no. if you contact steam support with anything that isn't a refund request, you're going to get a copy pasted response and your ticket closed before you can reply
Why are you retarded? What do you gain trough it? I'd really like to know.
Because those working at public companies have been taught that MVP is the only thing that matters and people should be made to expect it. But no here comes Steam with their features ruining everything.
MVP here means Minimum Viable Product
Because they would be selling games that outright wouldn't work if you couldn't just refund them through steam.
Shareholders and investors that wants LINE MUST GO UP FOREVER.
I like Steam cause they have lots of games and all my shit is already on there
sony and ea are steam bros now though.
steam kept sending me decks with fucked up trackpads until they finally sent me an "exception" and gave me a refund
lo and behold I bought a brand new one and it didn't have fucked up trackpads
these faggots just recycle RMAs with B stock and expect no one to notice
Sony has region blocked Helldivers II and Stellar Blade.
Gaben isn't the one giving discounts you retarded monkey it is the developers.
Gaben is a big fat leech profiting massively from the work of others with Apple levels of rent seeking and the service they provide is no where near the value they extract from developers.
Valve spends a lot of money brain washing and taking advantage of literal children with online gambling oops I mean loots boxes.
Honestly I am very impressed at the level Gaben has completely buck broken the gaming community beyond repair.
The steam dreck is easily the worst PC handheld out there, it's incredible that cultist valvetroons gaslighted the gaming press into thinking it's the best and most popular
The developers aren't the ones giving discounts you retarded monkey it is the publishers.
Sony has moved to Steam because their studios are so stupidly bloated and inefficient that a game selling less than 6 million copies is a flop and console owners are mostly poor people who play fortnite and maybe buy the yearly COD, and can't satisfy Sony any more.
EA stopped putting their games on steam and de-listed a bunch of them but begrudgingly came crawling back because people didn't want to move to another platform whose only feature was the ability to give EA a bigger cut of game sales.
They are not 'bros'.
They're mad they don't have Steam's market dominance and print money by simply existing
The sad part is one day after Gaben's death they will butcher the golden goose and ruin steam because nicone wants to believe that the "just provide a service people want to use" is an effective way to make money.
Steam rewards discounting games through wishlist notifications, top sellers and a 'specials' tab on the front page. So yes, they are responsible for discounts on steam, they just don't set the prices themselves.
No publisher is in charge of the discounts I give on steam you retarded bonobo.
I am so sick of people talking about bitchlists.
Everything you have said is false.
t. I have multiple games on steam.
nice reddit spacing
-95%
Steam sales have been garbage for several years and if you want to get reasonable prices you have to check ggdeals and resort to buying keys on grey market third party websites.
They were also cool with capcom retroactively adding a drm made by literally a single russian guy (enigma). They also don't curate their store for shit.
Just because the names on the left are worse than steam doesn't mean steam is good.
sounds like your games suck so gaben never send you email to put games on front page
Congratulations on your shovelware
My games are fine and have positive reviews also they have been played by hundreds of thousands of people.
What have you done besides be a disappointment to yourself and your family?
Notch was very smart, he never put his game on steam, it's still not on steam and he now has generational wealth because of that.
You can't space like that on reddit, looks like you fell for the newfag trap. Very sad, very pathetic.
Apple levels of rent seeking
Maybe if you're a fucking monkey. The developers/publishers are free to sell their game wherever they want and the fact that you're comparing it to apple makes it obvious that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
I've even bypassed steam to buy shit on path of exile's website. You couldn't do this on apple's walled garden for years until this new lawsuit forced them to open up.
They also don't curate their store for shit.
Blame the fucking indie game shitheads for this. They initially cried that Valve was gatekeeping with their curation so they pushed for the now defunct greenlight. indie game shitters made it worthless by bribing 3rd worlders into voting for their game, so they figured they'd just let everyone in if they followed some basic guidelines an paid a fee. Is it a good system? Absolutely not. I don't even bother browsing anymore due to all of the shovelware, but this is all on the fucking indie trash developers.
You can't space like that on reddit
what did he mean by this?
>My games are fine and have positive reviews also they have been played by hundreds of thousands of people.
t.
The developers/publishers are free to sell their game wherever they want
What, apple doesn't ask for exclusivity. I've had games an the app store and play store at the same time.
Valve controls how much you can price your game on other stores, and no it's not about using steams keys. You have to match valves prices no matter what.
GoG is the only respectable platform. You need to just admit you love suckling on Gaben's dick.
I don't use new reddit and you couldn't on old reddit. Maybe you should stay on reddit if you know so much about it.
Who the fuck is Logan?
My games are in 3D.
concession
I made games with 1k sales and that somehow earn more than your regular job
I am literally minecraft but I still need gaben to sell games for me
what did him mean by this
Does he even have any kids? Or is money on candy walls and Karl Joberrs legal defense all he's spending these days?
You have to match valves prices no matter what
confirmed larper
I've had games an the app store and play store at the same time.
Cool. Try downloading an app for an iphone outside of the app store you fucking retard.
That's the exclusive part
Lack of leverage combined with inferior products explains the seething. Also, you don't wanna mess with gayben, dude is basically patron saint of money launderers
make working platform
abide by live and let live principles and don't mess with it too much
It's that simple. I dunno why nobody wants to compete properly.
Not capitalising the first word in the sentence, and not ending it with a period?
Nice Reddit typing, you fucking faggot, maybe you should go back to your gay hugbox?
lmao grow the fuck up. Gabe is not wholesome chungus ever since that retarded paid mod debacle where he tried backdooring the userbase
lmao this redditard is having a melty
Racism isn't allowed outside Anon Babble
Gay Ben is the one man standing in their way from extremely shitty, greedy corporate practices. Gabe walking the fine line between customers and business interests as the market keeps trying to shit itself.
It's crazy how people can project their failures on others. All I know is that I have no boss and I can do what ever I want. I spend my time doing what I love, making games for retarded monkeys like yourself. Seethe all you want but you're the unhappy one who sucking to a billionaire who wouldn't careless if you died tomorrow lol, lmao even.
He still has time to get some kids.
steamcommunity.com
I live in Europe so I literally can download an alternative app store. I forgot American's are completely buck broken from all angles. LOL!
Gay Ben is the one man standing in their way from extremely shitty, greedy corporate practices
Really? What about the predatory loot box gambling targeting kids?
Corporations and PEFs are just mad because the moneyprinter Valve won't go public
I think Gaben would simply appoint an autistic successor that will never sell out the company.
He's just needs one guy who knows to do absolutely nothing, and Valve will always win.
I live in Europe
Enjoy your 35% income tax and 25% sales tax
My taxes are 7-12%, American's have to give up 3months salary minimum in income taxes. Oof. Talk about buck broken!
My taxes are 7-12%
Cool lie
I'm in Switzerland dumbass.
Hopp Suisse motherfucker!
why do discounts need to be limited time offers gabe
trying to abuse people's fomo eh?
You are a disgusting mountain Jew and you represent <1% of Europe.
He's a mountain Jew
Hitler should have finished you niggers off
Hi Tim. Sorry you still can't get Fortnite on iOS.
All they sell is gambling lol
NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
There. I now win all arguments anons are having with one another in this thread ITT right now (at the time of you reading this)
If discounts were permanent then they wouldn't be discounts, it would just be the new price
Steam is in the business of providing a good service because that's all they provide, they're not making games, once another store provides a better service, they're toast.
The rest are in the business of nickel and diming customers, because they're actually producing the games and want as much return as possible on investment.
In essence, the games publishers hate steam because they don't want to provide a better service and don't believe the consumers deserve a better service because they believe the consumers are subhuman cattle, which is sort of based but basedness doesn't put money in the bank.
Steam on the other hand provides a service that's needed, i.e. a marketplace in which consumers can shop for deals, can also look at indies, can look at problematic games that aren't kosher, can look at a lot of stuff meaning they're not isolated on the publisher's own stores and launchers and steam can also decide when to offer discounts. Look at the nintendo store, when do discounts ever come up? Exactly.
tl;dr steam provides an essential service which advantages the consumer and disadvantages the publishers and that's why they hate steam
Tranny.
You lose.
steamies are delusional lmao
made a more consumer friendly "retro" console that plays old games and homebrew unlike the Japan minis that you have to hack
company is even doing official PCB repros for old arcade games because why not
where were the jive turkeys when atari won?
It's crazy how people can project their failures on others
says you. post money received from gaben you retard larper
Gabe doesn't provide the discounts. The devs provide it
Its the most well rounded and most importantly cheapest
LCD decks were sub $300 when they were still stocking the 64gig
Reaction image. I win again.
steam wants your price stays the same to other store
this is somehow valve's price
kys(kill your store)
It's not a soijak, I win.
300 for 4/8 ryzen and decent(-ish) iGPU is honestly not that bad of a deal. It's enough compute to crunch through most of mundane tasks.
Callback to website origins.
It appears I am the winrar (epic reference)
why would you set a limited time offer on a digital good without scarcity
Imagine how things would look if someone like M$, Activision or Ubisoft got their foot into the door of online distribution before Valve
Barely coherent declarations of newCHAD superiority over oldfags.
Total Zoomer Victory.
to compete with new releases. rest of the time old games can sell without discount
Because limited time offers drive sales? Acknowledging that is completely different from saying that the price should always be low. If publishers don't want to do sales then they don't have to, Steam doesn't force them to. Factorio gets a lot of shit for not going on sale and even increasing the price of their game. If you feel like sales are a predatory practice then why are you attacking Steam over it when they are not to blame?
Except Steam is constantly filled with consumers who pirate games and cheat at games 24/7 anyway, making it a circus of lunacy.
Say what you like about the former market, at least it doesn't have a $2000+ price tag yet for every generation.
it's sad valve gives so much power to publishers to set and manipulate the price like that
right now I can buy Tekken 8 for 35 bucks on PS5 all year round but I'd have to wait for a sale to match that price on Steam
Gaben is a fat retard who has had many opportunity to get Half Life 3 made, but is too much of a coward to give another one unless he can scrape out a fortune from the customers like with Half Life: Alyx. God this guy sucks. Just give us the game, you obese monster.
They're a predatory practice and Valve allows it on their store and profits from it
Not very pro consumer if you ask me. Only thing worse if they did gacha or something like that.
Live in switzerland
8% VAT
But a free forkspoon costs 15€ in a supermarket
The absolute state, with that money you can buy most of the cutlery for your house in my 21% vat country.
Imagine how things would look if someone like M$, Activision or Ubisoft got their foot into the door of online distribution before Valve
Spaghetti begins to fall out of pockets as a deluge of oversharing about life wasted online and despair at current state of website begins.
I will declare this as a victory despite appearances.
Not very pro consumer if you ask me.
That's your opinion. Personally I think it's cool that you can get absolutely massive discounts on products. I got BL3 for five bucks and actually had a lot of fun with it, I would never have been interested in it at full price but at such a massive discount I didn't mind giving it a go and in the end I was satisfied with my purchase thanks to the discount.
what else is there to even ask them? the only things I can think of is your account getting broken into (they'd probably respond) or VAC banning you on a false-positive (no idea, never had that issue myself)
All platforms other than PC are pure dogshit for clueless cattle.
I can find a used copy of Battlefield 3 for 2 bucks and it's available all year round at that price
people can bitch about valve all they want but I cannot fucking imagine the hellscape we'd be in if GFWL (or some other MS-owned pile of shit) was the primary digital distribution platform for PC
if GoG was also non-existent i'd be welcoming timmy like the second coming of christ
I do wish steam allow trading for used games. Shit games will have their price freefalling. And I will never get scammed by steam review score.
Only one who do properly is GoG and it's a well beloved platform, mostly due to their no-drm gimmick but it works in everyone's favor.
Here in Italy it's closer to 80%
Almost all of big game corporations (including Epic) withdrew from PC market in the early 2000s because they thought PC would die as a platform and everyone would just play console games for all eternity.
They basically abandoned the entire market to Valve and now regret letting that happen.