When will you admit that the problem isn't publishers, suits or marketing but the developers themselves?

When will you admit that the problem isn't publishers, suits or marketing but the developers themselves?

OP needs the hivemind to validate him so he makes the most milquetoast opinion towards people he knows will agree with it and never has to face disagreement or be frightened by opposing opinions

...that is known and freely admitted by everyone

haha so gais... pineapple on pizza... BAD, amirite? yes yes thank you i'll take my reddit gold now

what is the purpose of such threads? do you just need to keep talking to remind your brain you exist so it doesn't cease breathing, or do you honest to god believe what you're saying will start a revolution on here
you're preaching to the chior and even they are sick of it

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when will you admit the domimant position already held by most everyone on this board

Whoa, watch out, we got a hot take over here.

nobody has ever blamed anyone but the developers

When will you admit that the problem isn't publishers, suits or marketing but the developers themselves?

because it isn't and you're retarded if you think it is
it doesn't matter if the devs have shit ideas when suits are the ones who have to give final approval and provide the money to make it

Is OP even a real person? If yes, shut up.

developers themselves?

But who hires these developers?

I have always maintained that stance, it's anons who think the developers are under threat by outside forces because they think they can save them or something. I don't believe coercion relieves you of guilt. If you or I were in their shoes, we'd tell the suits to go fuck themselves and make games from our garage with our friends. Someone who helps spread a virus, is the virus. I don't care what they "actually" believe.

i blame the organized conspiracy in the us government that funds and supports it

This game filters the jannies.

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The developers the suits hired to appease the publishers on the advice of marketing, you mean? Those developers?

Obv not

The problem is objectively the publishers and the suits because they are faggots that are making every AAA game boring design by committee tripe and wasting too much fucking money on it while chasing the most retarded and Jewish trends possible

Waaaah, but le developers are fulfilling their own visions and it's... LE WOKE!!!

Non-issue. Make your own games. AAA is obviously out of the question for you like it is for everyone else, but there's literally no reason why your kind haven't taken over indie games by now besides the fact that you are lazy, passionless and irrelevant. Indie gaming remains mostly woke. So yes, developers are the """problem""". Except the actual problem is that you got mindrotted back in 2012-2014 and you're mad no one else followed you to the pit of misery like a lemming.

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This strikes true to me in the sense that Anon Babble attaches onto the actual problems of the industry just to cry about niggers and faggots and trannies with a false equivalence between the two
If that was the problem, then I wouldn't have had fun playing Celeste

What problem? All I see is a badass woman. Their design is one of the most realistic, grounded and inclusive I have seen in any game which is exactly what folks want in a game. Maybe the problem is you?

this stupid child faggot thinks investors sit in on design meetings

HAHAHAHA! LOOK AT THIS STUPID RETARD!

He thinks every AAA game's office isn't filled to the brim with "marketing experts" choosing in advance what games are about and what boxes they need to tick.

Clueless.

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there was nothing wrong with her design.

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This dumb retard child thinks it's 2010 still

HAHAHAH LOOK AT THIS STUPID UNDEAGED RETARD WHO DOESN'T INOW WHAT THE FUCK HES TALKING ABOUT HAHAHAHA!
Get a clue you stupid faggot before you speak on things you don't understand.
Marketers/publishers come around once a month to see the progress these days. You stupid bitch hahaha! You don't have a fucking clue about game dev you pathetic faggot hahahah!

Uh-uh, anon, they are completely hands off and don't give a fuck about the games they are funding for some reason.
And they also totally have nothing to do with games like Shadow of War or that new Arkham game getting live content slop up the asshole. Nope. No involvement at all. It's all just a happy coincidence. Actually, everyone knows that the number one bullet point of the tranny SJW ideology is micro-transactions. That's what they really care about.

Fucking retard.

SHADOW OF WAR AND ARKHAM NIGGER LIVING 10+ YEARS AGO HAHAHGAHA!!!!!! Thanks for showing that you know fucking nothing about gamedev you stupid little bitch hahHah!

The Suicide Squad game, whatever. And Concord itself is another slop hero shooter except you were expected to pay 40 bucks for it. Which itself came from a big wave of live service slop games that Sony decided on because they decided that was their new corporate strategy.
And of course, I imagine retards like you think that shit like Marvel Rivals is totally epic. Because that's the only lenses you see this shit on. The slop is fine as long as it ideologically aligns with you.

THE SUICIDE SQUAD GAME WHERE THE ARTISTS LITERALLY SHOWED HOW THEY WERE PUSHING FOR THE UGLY CHARACTERS AND DOGSHIT StORY AND FOUGHT THE STUDIO HEADS UNTIL THEY WON AND SAID IT WAS THE BEST GAME THEY'D EVER MADE THAT SUICIDE SQUAD YOU DUMB MOTHERFUCKER HAHAHAHA!!!!!!

So yeah, you would have loved the Suicide Squad season slop with micro-transactions up the ass if the artists appealed to your cumbrain sensibilities. Thanks for answering my question despite trying to dodge it. It's always so fun to shitpost on Anon Babble when I'm always boxing with intellectual midgets. Really boosts your self confidence.

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This but also I'd say another big problem was the gamers themselves buying all the bullshit, though that's fortunately something that is getting corrected over the past few years

panders gamers' heterosexuality

???

profit

Wait, what?

microtransactions were the problem with suicide squad

not fucking MISSES BULL DYKE FREEZE

HAHAHAHA YOU STUPID BITCH YOU JUST OUTTED YOURSELF HAHAHAHA!

I just don't know who to blame in 98% of cases

concord failed because it was live service not because of how ugly the designs were

lol what?

No no! The problem is non-white devs!!

Didn't even reply to the right post

Mindbroken

Leftoids always blame the execs or publishers and never the creatives.

I know the answer is the people in charge are retarded but Killer Frost was right there

pineapple on pizza is good thoughbeit

That's what you said. That love service is the problem not design when even bad live service games like the first descendent has survived solely on selling hot girls when all these triple A studios have collapsed. Your point is plain wrong.

So what games have you made?

What game is that with the huge anime titties in the back

This thread gave me an eureka moment. Guys, I have an idea for a new EBIN chud movement. All you have to do is @ every game developer and publisher with this shit. Try to make a cool hashtag out of it so that all your fellow chuddies join in. Get some of the griftosphere on it. Let's make gaming great again! This is how we fix it!!!

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Checked

Quads

kekistani wills it!!!

I'll only play if it looks like a Neptunia game.

sasuga.

uh..... dilate! *posts picture of a guy in a dress*

It was the publishers and marketers etc. They cultivated this current situation where the devs are retarded as well.

But everyone blames the devs already because they deserve it.

This frogposter killed this thread and that's a good thing

The game is dead retard, stop it already. The corpse has been picked, the bones have been crushed...there is nothing left. Can you please leave?

Suits keep making conscious choice of going out of their way to hire those creatives. Nobody is forcing them. Executives consciously decide to hire leftist activist, and leftist activist in particular. They could have stopped it anytime but the suits do not want to stop hiring leftists.

taxpayer funded week long trip to Japan... lucky bastards

IT HAS TO BE ONE OR THE OTHER

It's all of them

Fate Trigger

Are you retards lying or just autists who can't understand that not everybody thinks the same as you?

Non-issue. Make your own games.

Among all the bullshit you said, this is the dumbest.

Urm yes, you who is some literally who with a regular salary, should just publish your own games!

Not everyone has the money or time to make their own game and have it be as successful as AAA games.

b-but muh indies!

Yeah for most of those people, its a full time job or they made their game in college then went into a studio afterwards. Not everyone is gonna go quit their job with stable income just to possibly have a hit game on Steam. There is a reason why most indies are asset flips, short, and simple too.

its a combination of all 3 in varying proportions

Stop pretending you're not seething lmao

Bazz is straight out a character from Trigun too bad xir is stuck in a shitty game

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The group working on it was just doing the bare minimum to not get fired. You can't blame them.

Still not buying woke games.

It's a combination. Apparently governments fun deishit so all the suits have an incentive to hire troons for their dei

that's the gayest version of "pay with your wallet" I've seen so far

And who hired the developers? Who told them what to do?

You think that there's an investor sitting behind the artist while he's pumping out assets and concept art saying he wants they uglier and trannified? Or do you think that the artist is doing that. Take a look at some of the senior artist on concords work and think about who really is behind these terrible design choices.
When we're talking about hiring, the problem isn't that devs are looking for these types, it's that 99% of the time these are the only people available to hire. Gamedev prioritizes younger hires especially straight out of college because they will often work for lower rates and have far cheaper medical and pensions. But most of these hires are from modern art colleges which are well known breeding grounds of modern feminist and leftist thought. Especially amongst creatives who have always been the most susceptible to these schools of thought. It's not that senior devs are taking the poisoned fish out of the well, the issue is that the entire well is poisoned.

I didn't say anything about AAA games. That's a dead end with all the suits around.
As for "I can't make them", ok, tough shit. Not my problem. It's yours.

You think that there's an investor sitting behind the artist while he's pumping out assets and concept art saying he wants they uglier and trannified

do you think the suit doesn't have to see and approve that art, retard
get a clue

Its actually "those" above the developers and by that, I mean "unappreciated fellows".

He approves art that's presented to him from the same artist. These artists aren't drawing hot girls in bikini's and trannies and the lead dev goes OH I WANT THE TRANNY, fucking retard. Also the investors aren't in the creative process at all. They're only interested in money and returns which is why publishers manage that and at most will visit game dev offices once every few months, but more likely every 6months to check on progress. Most of the time publishers have little to no say on creative input because of licensing and who owns the game.
But in reality what's happening is these tranny obsessed artists are presenting a bunch of ugly designs to the lead and the lead dev has to pick from whichever design is the least ugly. But the issue isn't just the art, it's who is making the art.
You seem upset I suspect because you're an artist who got fired from concord. Hey enjoy not having a job you fucking faggot lmao.

It's all of them.

Those they hire, those that do the hiring, those that control who does the hiring, those whom mandate who is allowed to be hired and who isn't, ect. From top to bottom.

and the lead dev has to pick from whichever design is the least ugly

t. hasn't seen a concept art book for any game released in the last decade

he thinks the investors are the ones making concept art into 3d and trannify it when the artists just want to make cute girls

You're fucking deluded. Also alloy has always looked like a man. In the concept art she looks like an ugly boy. Faggot.

but it's funny in my animangaymes

investors are actually 3d modellers

kek

colonizer fruit

Yikes.

he actually thinks this.

Have you seen any of the twitters from the concord art team? Or the suidice squad art team? You think they're doing it for money? How brain addled are you? ESG and DEI allowed teams to get away with this dogshit and cover their losses when no one bought the game.

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The publishers, suits, and marketers decide what gets developed

im pretty sure the post above was telling you to do exactly that in a roundabout way

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americans can't imagine that people do this stuff because they're political activists and instead think everything is a money conspiracy

Agree with this, troons can make good games too. It's the actual content of the game that matters. It's kinda funny that out of Anon Babble we have had like:

two VNs

Risk of Rain dev team started here and have now sold out to gearbox of all fucking people

Notch used to be here and post early minecraft versions until he discovered people on Reddit will suck his dick with 0 criticism all day

I don't get why people spend all day here bitching about coons and troons in the gaming industry when the indie market is literally a free for all and all you have to do is come up with a good concept and execute it well.

Not true, people way too consistently blame upper management for forcing DEI or ESG or whatever else upon devs who are then forced to comply because they supposedly don't make any decisions. Obviously this is not true, gamedev offices have been full of women and retards ever since "game developer" took off as a profession people explicitly went to school for, rather than programmers who just ended up in gamedev.
That's the distinction that has to be made, and people need to realize things aren't just going to magically go back to the way they were. Games are now things that people show up to an office to work on 9-5 and then go home. It isn't their passion, they're just showing up for a paycheck before moving on to the next company.

you genuinely have no clue how marketing and investment is integrated with projects, probably because you are underage

i do this for atlyss

Quads

THE HEAVENS WILL IT
No one will do so however, sadly

The problem is California. Asia, Europe, even the filthy slavs are putting out interesting games.
America and Canada has been so infested with Californiathink that it's self-sabotage at this point.

baddest

The correct term is "worst"

Unfathomably based.

keep replying to yourself faggot

the publishers and producers tell the devs what they can and can't do, so it's their fault in the end

Why don't chuds make their own games? They've been crying about sjws owning the industry for 13 years straight now.

All they can do is bitch
They've been getting mogged by trannies that actually put in the effort to influence the industry from within

Low IQ

They tried but they're outright cancelled and chased off because not being on the left in gamedev means you're a literal nazi to these people.
youtube.com/watch?v=AdrSpqmmyfk

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When will you admit you're a worthless tranny retard from a third world shithole?

#her

Transphobe

Oh, that's the retard that made vaporware and can't even pay his bills but we're supposed to care because he was an epic gamergater, and now he spends his time bitching that there are devs that are making actual games (Replaced) instead of nothing

It's really lucky for you that this is his fate, rather than being like the Armikrog devs or the developers of the Vivian James game, which actually released their game to absolute crickets and no one ever thought about it again until me right now

lol went to check twitter and he's crying about the tranny artist that bungie ripped off in marathon. This dude hasn't done jackshit in like 5 years now. GRIM

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It's all of the above.

14th post, best post.

Actual truth nuke

Losers can only whine and bitch about everything and never enact change to improve their situation. Anyone can complain but it takes real guts to actually take action to improve the situation and Anon Babble is filled with too many losers who will never improve.

Plebbitors will do ANYTHING to not blame devs, even in cases where there's no gay shit and the game is just 100% bad in a general sense it's always "oh they were rushed! clearly the publisher didn't give the devs the proper time! they were forced to compromise their vision!" while ignoring the fact the vision was poop in the first place

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WHY DONT CHUDS

they did

UHHHH THAT GAME IS SHIT UUUHHH CELESTE IS BETTER OMMMG TRANNIESSSS!!

You will neverrrr be a woman lmao.

and it's not even a correct opinion! firewalk warned sony CONSTANTLY it was gonna suck! we're seeing this going on identically with bungie, marathon and sony! sony AGAIN! if anything should be accused of shilling it's the mongrels on Anon Babble that leap to the defense of fucking publishers, managers and suits and instead attack the code-monkeys

Celeste is not just better. Celeste is finished.

they did

They literally didn't. Actually, they did, even if your example is dogshit, but they are in the minority and you likely never played the good games they actually have released to begin with.

true and based, and deleted.

I think that some of these devs are women. And given how many "deleted" commends are here, I am not allowed to state my real opinion about them, my intentions, my dreams and desires...., but I am glad they suffer.

thank god we have Anon Babble robots to reply to deleted posts all day

Conservatives cry about being deplatformed and demonetized then you looks up why it happened and it's always some extreme antisocial nonsense that very few people would ever want to be associated with.

brother, we know, no need to get banned over shit. The modern shit is so fucking bad, you do not even need to attack the root of the problem. Just call for the death of the devs, investors, managers, HR ladies and so on and you will be anti semetic by proxy. Don't post hard truth nukes, go easy and softcore.

post the original and not this gay shit.

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But everyone loved Concord, and there is absolutely no conflict between the wants of a 90 year old lich running a ESG investing firm, and the public.

Don't quote me, you retarded schizo.