Magic is an abomination

Hey Magina!

Fuck you!

"Nice mask", they said. What mask?!

Dota 2 stopped being fun around the time they added invoker

The voice, which is human, does not reflect the appearance, which is that of an animal.
Don't fuck animals.
If she was had any human features aka an actual monstergirl you'd have a point, but as it stands you're just a zoophile.

I didn't like when they reworked kotl and bloodseeker.
I did not mind when they gutted techies because it was completely deserved.

Wake me up when Brewmaster is good again

Wake me up when Brewmaster is good again

What's your problem with Brewmaster? I hate that they added a 4th stance, but he's fine otherwise.

uses magic to kill magic users

totally not a fucking hypocrite.

totally not a fucking hypocrite.

Are you serious? If someone uses a gun to kill people with guns, then he's lowering the number of gun users.

FFFFFFUCK SPELLS

uses magic

It's sheer force of will thoughbeit

if you're still last hitting like a stupid troglodyte nigger monkey in current fucking year, you need to kill yourself. theres a reason why they removed it from dead(on arrival)lock. come play a white man's game, like heroes of the storm

t. lasthitlet

no one cared who I was until I put on the mask

t. 1850 MMR in 2025 with 40 minute queues just so he can lose a 67 minute game

make two posts in attempt to discuss gameplay

none of the trannies who replied to the thread even play the game

This is what I expected. Nobody on this website could play Dota if they tried, so why is there a Dota thread?

for me it was arc warden

I never tire of this video.
I will always love it.

I'm still quite disappointed that flimsii deleted half his old shitty videos in a fit of autism. Yeah they were poorly made, but I still enjoyed em, shoulda saved while I had the chance.

everyones played dota its like 30 years old but nobody plays dota because its like 30 years old

I'll take a crack addict!

most western euros and americans quit playing 10 years ago, partially because of bad patches and partially because of (you) guys invading our servers

For me it's when they casualized a lot of the gameplay mechanics while not gaining League player counts anyway

free damage block for melee

free vision wards

xp items

Fucking hated these reddit support ideas, and I'm a pos 5 player myself
Destroying enemy wards that cost money feels more satisfying than what it is now
Also bullying supports win games faster, but that isn't really a thing anymore

youtube.com/watch?v=4147195M5RA

most western euros and americans quit playing 10 years ago

I don't care if people stopped playing, because they could still watch the game. Nobody even watches the game, and that's why nobody can say when AM last appeared. I remember Malik picking AM at ESL Bangkok, but that was a long time ago. Malik doesn't even play on Team Spirit anymore.

Be quiet

only cute monstergirls are allowed

had some wireless logitech headphones back in the day

watch this video

midway though they do 3 beeps to signal that battery is low

to this day, 10 years later, every time I watch this video I hear the 3 beeps at the same specific time

what is this called

what should we call our anti magic hero?

magi(c), nah.

NICE ONE ICEFRAUD

I can't name the last pro match. I don't memorize shit like that. I watch games then walk away. No point dwelling on them.

I'll jerk off to whatever I want to, nigger.

the original is better than dota edit

Should've used the new sorapoi tbqhsenpai

How about April 20, 2025 PGL Wallachia Season 4 Aurora vs. Tundra?

If you were to make a list with the top 100 strongest Dota 2 heroes, would Panda make the cut?

That's impressive. Someone would only know that if they watched Dota 2. I checked and Aurora picked AM in Game 2, and they also won Game 2.

youtu.be/QiSqZRrqj7E?si=EKul8oKzHrkH6ps-

Very modern build on AM too. AM used to always have Bfury and Nightfall bought Rad instead.

Uh yes, because I see Panda in pro matches, and I don't mean old matches.

If you look here, DM from Paravision is playing Panda. Paravision is one of the best teams and anything they pick would be good, with the exception of 9Class and his meme shit.

youtu.be/O8niZx2lvZ0?si=gQlJcYr2BX0XUIUk&t=844

Valve screwed over the Artifact fanbase by cancelling the Artifact 2.0 beta without even allowing users to invite friends like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.

Will Drow ever be good? I'm tired of being rushed and killed by tankniggers the whole game.

Will Drow ever be good?

I think Drow is fine, even if I don't see her picked in tournaments. Maybe you should try Drow mid if you keep getting ganked, because it's the hardest lane to gank.
After the laning phase, just make sure you have one item that lets you get away. Like Hurricane Pike maybe, or BKB if you need it. If the enemy team is bad, then Shadow Blade works too. You need that one item in case silencing them isn't enough to get away.

Pre 7.0 dota was peak. Crazy how they dropped the ball so hard

I wish I'd have had the balls to master best girl when I still played. Good riddance though.

the map got slightly bigger and I can chose an additional passive now

It's the same game, anon. Don't be afraid of having to learn something new.

Someone would only know that if they watched Dota 2

No, you can just go to Liquipedia and look it up. That wasn't the most recent game. Two days later, Betboom picked it against Aurora.

you can just go to Liquipedia and look it up

I didn't know you could do that. I just assume they watched the match, because I watch matches. I'm like an old man now who watches sports.

didnt they add shrines in 7.0

I miss this era of Dota so fucking much

You better be beating your wife whenever your favorite team loses or I'm revoking your boomer card.

That card hero picking interface was the absolute worst thing possible, though.

I don't have a wife, and I don't want the boomer card anyway. I'm just trying to say I have the "played Dota since he was a teenager" card. That's why I feel like an old man.

make my boy good again

the year is 2053

techies are still paying for their crimes

I remember when Techies mines could be put in one spot. Making it so the mines have to be spread out killed the hero.

Speaking of paying for crimes.

gets nerfed because one guy wins Ti with the hero

I don't like how the support role feels nowadays, the map is too labyrinthine and big to cover with wards.
There used to be a time where just placing them on the cliffs felt good enough and it was just you and their support fighting over it by burning all your gold on sentries.

I don't like how the support role feels nowadays, the map is too labyrinthine and big to cover with wards.

Warding is definitely harder after they removed the ez ward spots. You just need to predict what the enemy is doing. Like, pros will drop an obs at Tormentor because they know the other team will go for it, and that's what warding is like in the current meta. Something else is they drop an obs before or during a fight, so they have vision of the enemy. That's how observers are used now.

SO BEGINS NEW AGE OF CONCENTRATION CAMPS

How did Valve get away with this?

7.0 didn't expand map size. Kill yourself you fucking riot reject. Hope fat fuck gabe trips and falls into his knife cabinet.

they removed it from deadlock

No they didn't. On last hit you instantly get the soul and if you miss you have to last hit the soul as it floats up, which is contested.
If you miss both last hits you get a pity point at best.
Hots was fun but also had last hitting with the souls lingering for a while like deadlock, but without the enemy contest.
Also some of the maps were total dogshit and I will never miss them. Your favorites, of course.

not a single person talking about current state of dota because nobody plays dota anymore

Good. As it should be.

I HAVE FINISHED FARMING

Dota is at its peak gameplay wise

playing turbo regularly buddy. what alternative is there anyway? the only competitor, riot, commited sudoku by forcing their retarded chink spyware on everyone. me and everyone I know quit the moment they enforced that

Personally I can't really comment on it after quitting at 7.0, it's basically a different game
Wish there was an official classic version, no new skins, with the old menus and old music, old icons, no betting, old camp spawn times, no new heroes past wukong which was supposedly the last D1 hero.

Supports can afford to actually deward and this is a bad thing?
Part of support was always learning patterns for warding and dewarding. They did not remove every suggested 'place ward here' spot, the spots just changed locations.
Also, some of those ward cliffs personally annoyed me because fuckers would try to jungle on top of them and get like 300gpm instead of playing the game.
I actually take that back, it is bad that supports can afford to deward because now they have to actually get items in a timely manner or they are fucked.
None of that brown boots headdress at 20 minutes shit.

Proper Skux

It's so funny how everyone still cries and memes about Techies, when they're literally just a normal Dota hero now, there's nothing actually interesting about them anymore. IceFrog killed the character for nothing.

Is it? People farm a lot these days and I think the hero distribution in pro Dota might be the worst it's ever been.

hey retard, the directive specifically said you need to use the line "dota is peaking", can you fucking read your emails for once in your life?
You need to use the active form of the verb because valve inc. marketing department has decided that this is the most effective way to communicate to slash vee slash that dota is currently a good game and not a dogshit game maintained by former riot employees (who are obviously the most experienced people in the world best suited to boost our quarterly profits).
If I catch you using the improper verbiage again it WILL reflect on your KPI.

For me it was when the metafaggotry was at its peak and people started to refer to players as pos1, pos2, etc. and expecting clearly defined roles every game. Earlier on people didn't seem to give many fucks about it in pubs, the last I played it seemed unbearable

I don't know, I personally liked that window where blast off and placing the three red mines would kill basically anyone.
Green mines were always boring (yes even with the funny slow marching mines).
The only thing I miss from old techies was a 'feature' where you put a stack of red mines in the tusk snowball and 9/11 their base.

That's the thing, support role felt better when it had a big sacrificial aspect. It was a provider role, you dedicated your gold towards buying those wards and then walked around placing them at brown boot speed.
Don't get me started on the whole courier change, the soul of arguing with the other support about who should buy the flying courier and the satisfaction of having everyone use your custom courier is gone now.

what alternative is there anyway?

just
don't
play
I'm not telling you to not play dota. You're already doing that.
What you're playing is a dwarfed facsimile made by seattelites doing its best to imitate a fraction of what dota was. You realize it as well as anyone else when you understood that the fucking temu knockoff called league is a genuine competitor.
Play something else. Go over older games. If asmongold can move on from the end of WoW you can move on from the end of dota.

What do you mean, positions were always used in dota, 1 included.
Also offlane, solo mid, jungle and duo lane has always been a safe tactic since forever

oh I know exactly what you mean which is why I exclusively play casualized turbo anyway; there's no assfaggots alternative on the market and if I want to scratch that itch it's just dota though. asmongoloid is a night media associate and should not be used as an example for anything btw

there's no assfaggots alternative on the market

PVE Yugioh is actually a pretty good alternative. You get strong variety, time to make decision inbetween active moves, and there's a lot of video games about it.
Unlike dota 2 where they get to erase old patches, cards rarely get erased (those that get put on a banlist/limited can just get bypassed through cheat engine if you're playing an older game). It's not one to one but it's nice. There's also other older games that have the same complexity - decision making balance (most of them just happened to be on handhelds, funny how that worked out)

youtube.com/watch?v=IcfXnAsBHRY
this ones better

you're right, because the sovl behind dota left to go make a real sequel

a real sequel

ehh it looks and feels like shit. tough sell

What you're playing is a dwarfed facsimile made by seattelites doing its best to imitate a fraction of what dota was

Hyperbole, the game is as fun as ever.
I still don't like the big map though, makes warding a chore

2012-2016 dota 2 was a blast happy to have been there with you fellas

LMAO
yeah jump on that upsell you literal fucking shill
let me put this in plain english so everyone understands exactly why deadcock is dogshit, will always be dogshit and will never be fun for anyone:
Icefrog went to valve to make dota 2 because valve knew how to make video games.
Valve makes dota 2 and it is a good video game.
Valve realizes that they can make money instead of video games. They literally call it monetization.
Valve gets really, REALLY fucking good at monetization by inventing lootboxes (in tf2), battlepasses (dota 2) and gambling (marketplace).
Valve development change from video games to monetization vehicles.
Valve stops making games and starts making artifact (based on a potential market and not whether they knew how to make card games), underlord (based on a potential market and whether the gameplay is actually good).
Icefrog goes to valve to make a new game.
Valve does not make games. Valve makes monetization programs.
Icefrog is now making a monetization program with valve.

Deadlock is not a video game. It is the festering pus that is overflowing from the disease that is western development studios.
Not being privately owned means jack shit if your end goal is still the endless greed for more capital.

I want to suck his nipples.

looks and feels better every update
deadlock is PURELY a video game, it has zero monetization in place right now and none of the development has been focused around milking money out of people
yes it will get worse, but hating a game before release because it will be used to *gulp* make money is the most turboretard take I've ever seen, I hope you're not a hypocrite and you only play open source freeware.

Read the thread.

Deadlock is not a video game.

Unironically the most videogame a videogame has ever videogamed, and I don't even like it that much, because it's too much of a videogame.

it's basically a different game

You're being very unreasonable.

Magic is an abomination

can disappear, which is the most basic street magician trick

Yeah okay

golden age of /d2g/

despite being very professional for its time, teams would often trashtalk each other and banter a lot

golden age of na'vi, alliance, secret, EG, virtuspro, vici

golden age of shitting on RTZ

meta often shifted into crazy shit like rat dota, sniper domination, pudge mid or warlord meta

I miss it so much

I don't think you understand what I typed.
The argument isn't whether it HAS monetization currently, the argument is that when you spend 10 fucking years hiring retards whose only qualifications is coming up with new scams to get more money from an existing playerbase, the entire company stops knowing how to create a product that can generate a new playerbase.
Deadlock is SHIT, will stay shit, and will never generate anything of value.
To put it in terms that more directly correlates with money because that's all that you fucking retarded jackals understand, the same thing happened with valve's marketing department - they stopped doing marketing because their games could speak for themselves, and now that their games are dogshit they need an actual marketing department because it's hard to generate a playerbase when the game AND the marketing is trash, and now when valve tries to market you get retards like posting the most unappealing arguments you can find in an indian sweatshop.
You made your bed, sleep in it.

youtu.be/-V3pnk7J7QM?si=5qUf_dkrCIAmE-GG
for me

me too brother. that whole era had so much soul and joy. You mentioned 5 teams but just 2 of them would have been sufficient to argue its greatness. every member of say, alliance and na'vi had their own quality.
Heck EGM from alliance barely said a word throughout his career, yet he was unique in some way

posting the most unappealing arguments you can find in an indian sweatshop

What the fuck are you talking about schizo?
I said Deadlock is not appealing to me because it's too intense and difficult, way more fast paced than Dota and I'm too old for this shit.

yeah i forgot when hopoo games got hired by valve because of their microtransactions my bad

I AM A DOGGY

there was quick revival for the TI Spirit first won which was great too

TI4 hub were the comfiest streams i have ever seen
what went so wrong afterwards?

yeah that was probably the last time many cared for professional dota me included

Say it again for the people in the back

no king rules forever

you're right, I forgot that piece of evidence.
Thank you for admitting that valve is so creatively bankrupt that they're now resorting to EA, Bethesda, Microsoft and Sony levels of "if we buy them maybe they can make us look less shit".
Hopoo can go on the wall alongside pandemic, westwood and bioware.
Hope your money was worth it.

what went so wrong afterwards?

Non stop China catering definitely was a factor.
Then chinks got bored of Dota and now pro Dota is ruined forever.

I'm blind, not deaf.

Kunkka was never nerfed. Sure it's changed abit here and there, but minor. He still has the same fucking meta and his lane presence is still OP no matter which lane, since his fucking inception.

This is much worse and isn't even close

hopoo only got bought after they sold their IP to gearbox, valve has a long ass history of buying out developers too so I don't know what your point is
gayben isn't paying money to shill his game without textures that leaked two years early, this might be hard to believe, but I actually like video games
deadlock brings me back to the early days of dota that I'm nostalgic for, which is why I'm in a dota thread in the first place, because I like dota as well

NuEsport

Esport died with TI9 everything after is irelevant

TI4 hub were the comfiest streams i have ever seen

i hear ya. i lived for that shit during that month. probably the only time in my life that I'd set an alarm for catching a livestream.

what went so wrong afterwards?

it took a long time from ti4euhub for things to get worse, it's difficult to stay on top for so many years. In some ways, it's impressive that the dota 2 scene managed to stay fresh almost throughout the whole 2010s

TI3 finals were the peak of esports, it never got better

Kunkka was never nerfed.

Ghostship
Reduced rum damage reduction from 40%/45%/50% to 40% on each level.
Increased cooldown from 60/50/40 to 80/70/60.

Sure it's changed abit here and there, but minor.

REWORKED Upgradable by Aghanim's Scepter. Aghanim's Scepter upgrade:
OLD Ghostship
Now spawns at Kunkka's current location, instead of spawning behind him.
The Ghostship now drags enemies within 200 radius of it toward the crash site, without disabling enemies in any way.
NEW Grants Kunkka the Torrent Storm ability.

ADDED Upgradable by Aghanim's Shard. Aghanim's Shard upgrade for Kunkka:
Grants Kunkka the Tidal Wave ability.

He still has the same fucking meta

because you have zero pattern recognition and could not move on from shadowblade tidebringer if your life depended on it

and his lane presence is still OP no matter which lane

lol
lmoa
nice

tidehunter above, do not reply

I like dota as well

No, you don't.
You like the concept of liking dota. You like the idea that you're a dota player, the idea that dota is alive and well.
Every actual dota player in this thread has played the game for 10+ years and are unanimously in agreement that this shit is over. We're moving on.
Fucking retard really going to hire ex-league devs and tell me that loves dota. The only thing about actual dota that you like is killing it.

Torrent storm absolutely crushed any other playstyle because that spell was just inherently busted. Removing it was a pretty obvious (and necessary) nerf to kunkka.

Haven't played Dota in about 5 years

still tune in to TI every year

The last few sucked ass, but I'll still be there watching and in the threads

I actually think the competitive scene might be more interesting right now. Back in those days, it was pretty much accepted that there was one team who was the best, and they'd show up at TI to try and take down a horde of Chinese teams who all looked and played the same, and then there'd be one or two scrappy NA teams who looked like they didn't deserve to be there. Most teams struggled to be relevant for more than one year and pretty much everyone came from the original Dota or HoN. Most teams had a pretty simple identity. They were either good or scrappy, plus most of their players came from the same country. So you'd have the good NA team, the scrappy NA team, the good Swedish team, two good CIS teams, one scrappy CIS team, etc.

The modern pro scene doesn't have one for-sure dominant team, there's five really good teams, two pretty good teams, three decent teams, and a handful of teams fighting to make it into tier 1 tournaments. Most of them aren't nation-specific either. Chinese teams barely exist anymore, half the pro players are Eastern European, but they're not just on Russian teams, you can find them on any team. There's a lot of teenagers who have only known Dota 2 and they've been playing it since they were little kids, but then there's also veterans, some who've won multiple TIs, and the players have a long history with each other. For example, Aurora was made by the two players who won TI with Team Spirit and were later kicked. Falcons has half of the TI-winning Tundra lineup on it. Parivision is the most dominant team right now and their carry is a 17-year old who also played with Team Spirit when their carry decided to take a break, but then he came back super fast so they benched him until Parivision asked him to join; the 17-year old has nothing but gratitude for Spirit for letting him play for them, but you can tell the other guy feels like he has to prove himself against this kid.

dumb stinky poopy head

I stopped watching pro-Dota like right before OG's two wins and started watching again recently after players like RTZ, Topson and Miracle retired for good, so I keep seeing fans wank off these guys and I'm like, "fucking who lol" It's surreal seeing that some of the guys playing now played on teams with people I watched back in the day at some point.

keep calling me names
get good at it
won't turn dota good again or change deadcock from dead on arrival but it'll make you cope better with living in seattle while gaben fucks off in new zealand

Old dota pros even at their peaks probably couldn't compete with current Dota pros, the skill ceiling got much higher and the game a lot more complex

I actually think the competitive scene might be more interesting right now.

The modern pro scene doesn't have one for-sure dominant team, there's five really good teams, two pretty good teams, three decent teams, and a handful of teams fighting to make it into tier 1 tournaments. Most of them aren't nation-specific either.

you've got some good points, but at least for me, those are not positives.
I preferred when teams were based on nationality because it made tournaments exciting. I preferred the scrappy teams because they made the good players really shine.
I am happy for you though; if you think the modern dota 2 scene is great then hey that's awesome, because I wish i could too.

you don't like this thing unless you actually hate the thing now

ok retard

wrong.
sumail at 27~28 was still extremely strong as a mid.
the decline in old pros is almost purely patch based.
they basically killed resource management as a concept. People type "space created" these days without having any context for core vs support resource management in a 5v5 team based format.
There's a reason why Peter "zero individual skill" Dager could drag randoms into being a top 3~5 team in NA/EU for years and then suddenly just retired. It's not the talent pool.

Bring back the real Techies

you should keep liking this thing after we introduce kez

please keep buying battlepasses and lootboxes my income depends on it

choke on a dick

You got a better version of him

Parivision is the most dominant team right now and their carry is a 17-year old who also played with Team Spirit when their carry decided to take a break

Did you know Team Spirit lost to Paravision (with Satanic as safe)? It was funny to me, as a fan of Team Spirit.

I have started playing again after 7+ years of not playing, exclusively queuing unranked with friends, mostly pos 3 and 4-5, sometimes 2. I rediscovered why I liked the game, it is a deep experience with so many ways to play.

Nah. I still remember queuing for games back then, people throwing a hissy fit for playing support. It sucked balls to walk around with no items and spending the little gold you had on wards, getting yelled at if you didnt get enough gold to buy them. Meanwhile in my 100+ games I played in 2025, I havent seen a single person complain about being a support. Yeah there are people who get no support items playing as supports (core wannabes), but it is still much relaxed than what it used to be.

People type "space created" these days without having any context for core vs support resource management in a 5v5 team based format.

i fucking loved playing the support resource game it felt so satisfying when that clicked

No, they removed the real Techies and replaced him with dier Techies then they removed the diet Techies and replaced him with a completely different hero

what if we just turned techies into a glorified blink lion

LESS VARIETY
LESS INGAME CHOICES
LESSER DOTA
why don't you nerf manaburn and stuns while you're at it? that'll really stop the game from being unfun for new players.
OH WAIT, YOU DID!
<laugh track>

ringmaster was one of the best hero releases in years, stop projecting your homosexuality

Everyone was bad back then.

Refilling bottle for mid and buying a flying courier isn't meaningful variety, it was mostly tedium, now supports can interact with other mechanics that, you know, they might actually enjoy doing

Sorry buddy, but no zoomer has ever come close to n0tail's greatness.

no zoomer has ever come close to n0tail's greatness.

What was great about him? He won Ti twice, which Team Spirit also did.

Yep pretty much this

Lol the whole team spirit crew

Unparalleled micro skillz

Volvo's overreation to TI4 is what killed dota.
There went dota the game and in its place there was dota the esport.

ringmaster

ring "let's follow the riot model of giving new characters nonsense numbers on release with zero depth so people can feel good about new thing and then we can just remove the numbers after and pretend we know what we're doing" master

ring "50% nerf on my ult as an apology for releasing this shit without testing, just like how we had to nerf heart of tarrasque by 500 hp after TI2023 and give windrunner 10 nerfs in the same patch after TI2024" master

ring "what do you mean I forgot to put a useable interrupt on a support" master

keep deflecting from kez, the shitshow must continue.

I like how the only defense you can put up for dota are changes from more than 5 years ago, without addressing any of the actual criticism levied in the posts that you're actually replying to.
Must suck to have to defend a product that's dead.

Kill magic

He was Always right

Dota is dead

I mean yeah it's still the second most played game on steam b a wide margin, b-but it's dead, really!

People have been saying the game is dead since a decade ago, you'd think they would get the memo, Dota can't die if there is nothing better to play from the same genre, maybe back then LoL could compete but right now Dota is better than LoL in every way other than character models, ironically there are people saying that the next patch might include a character model rework so yeah

Sproink!

When people say Dota is dead, they mean they really hope it's dead because they no longer know anything about the game. I can't really comprehend that level of crab in a bucket, but they're posting in a Dota thread, so anything they like is super dead.

HAVE ONE ON THE HOUSE

the paid shill brings up the numbers as his last defense

because that's what he did back when he defended league of legends too

Bring my boy back

A game is dead when I personally stop playing it.
So yeah, dead game.

hey retard, a decade ago was 2015.

2015 was a couple, three years ago. it's 2018

You're a nigger and only niggers play league

It wasn't that good thougheverbeit, another asshole pinup, big whoop
Draw her getting VHOULED, then we're talking.

>golden age of shitting on RTZ

RTZ switching 5 times in a row between EG and Secret with the non RTZ-team always doing better than the one he just joined was bizarre.

He isn't going to draw his waifu getting sullied.

rtz played about 10~15 games of pro dota during the MLG run, decided "whoa, that was hard, why don't I play like loda instead", and chose to be a creep hitting bot for the rest of his career.

ruins your lane with caustic

viper veno offlane

unironically wcyd?

types caustic instead of stinger because he doesn't actually play nu-dota

smart.

RTZ switching 5 times in a row between EG and Secret with the non RTZ-team always doing better than the one he just joined was bizarre.

I didn't know that happened, but I've seen behind the scenes footage with RTZ, and I don't think anyone likes the guy. It's like, why would you try your best if you hate someone on your team? That's what happened.
The best Dota 2 teams are always good friends with each other. The ones that never win anything are just like five people put together, and they're playing because it's a job for them.

But Caustic is still the problem, it's his innate passive now

you pick a range carry like clinkz, sit back and take what farm you can get, if the lane gets too crazy then go offlane and shoot people down with the team to make space

He always let his ego get the better out of him.
Like for several years you could sum up his matches as

farms for 60 minutes straight

jumps into a teamfight and gets himself killed, now the other team is raking in gold

congratulations you just lost

they should nerf ranged heroes like how they nerfed manaburn and stuns, clearly these toxic mechanics should be removed from the game to facilitate a higher playercount, which will lead to more battlepass and lootbox sales
let's give viper a target point root + silence with a 0.75s delay with 125 radius, and let's change venomous gale into a target vector skill that pushes the enemy hero in the target direction while giving them a silence and a silence.

Survive long enough to go farm somewhere else, or if the other role go gank because that lane's a wash.

while giving them a silence and a silence.

Viper Veno would be really strong, but it's not unbeatable. You could beat their ass with a meta duo. One that I see often is PA + Warlock. PA can kill people even early game, and Warlock destroys aggressive lanes with Fatal Bonds. If you link Viper Veno with their wave, they'll be in trouble.

Those do not sound like nerfs to me. Not sure what point you were trying to make in this post.

gives them a silence and a silence

holy shit!

jugg + dazzle is also good too

you heard me. Stuns are toxic, and disarms allow supports to have a role in lategame, so we should change our game direction for better crowd control effects like silence, silence and silence. Movement nerfs like moving characters in a certain direction is ok too.

What's the last match you saw with Jugg?

no idea haven't played in 2 years lmao

Those do not sound like nerfs to me

I know, and the fact that venomous "gale" already sounds like wind would give us a great excuse to change it to target vector since wind can come from any direction!
Let's make dota newer and newer everyone, we already removed all target unit stuns in league, we can do it again!

For such a persistent annoying faggot you're also painfully unfunny.

I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm simply providing positive community feedback in line with the current balance direction for dota 2.

you'll get more positive feedback when you suck my dick

two of the last three have been GG getting to the grand finals and absolutely shitting themselves. Gotta be one of the worst teams to watch in the game's history, they either win in 20 minutes or just slowly lose the game, and then when they meet someone equal to their power they immediately crumble and lose.

didn't get the joke because they don't actually play dota

Stuns are toxic

what the fuck does that mean lol

It means that stunning the enemy team is toxic, chud, stop using stuns and start using silences.

wow nu-dota really is cucked

That serves an entirely different purpose, but I forgot about it anyway because I always took the silencer cannot be silenced one instead.
Spells for me, but not for thee.

Its like stuns are about someone not being able to play the game

I know the purpose this thing serves

even though I forgot completely about it

you're so funny anon.

spells for me, but not for thee

I always imagined rubick someday gaining the ability to actually steal a spell, not just pirate it, but I don't know how it would really work out balance wise.

But they kept taking him back after he left. He joined EG for the 2nd time 6 days after EG won the international without him.
It made no sense.

Gotta be one of the worst teams to watch in the game's history

I disagree. The players on Gaimin Gladiators are likeable, but they'll get destroyed by any aggressive team. I watched a Grand Final match with GG, and I'm like

how the fuck did they make it to the final just to lose that hard

youtu.be/np0_-IC2ILk?si=oArJw2kjHnYJt0o8

I think GG's problem is they have this vision of the match and how it's going to go, whereas the other team will just pick strong early game, beat their ass, and it never even goes late.
Why don't GG change their heroes? Probably because their hero pool isn't big enough. They learned certain heroes and then pick them in the final. Really disappointing team.

I know right? stuns are so toxic.
Let's remove all stuns and replace them with silences, and then we can also implement all the other changes while we were working for riot like culmulative dragon/baron rewards (something like more item drops, maybe like a free buff like creep invincibility like how we did with baron in league), some free vision with about 100 radius like those vision creeps in river, and we can also do bushes by having really small highground patches in the jungle.
We're gonna make valve so much money guys!

purge the first silence early

immediately get silenced again

What is there not to get? I don't currently play by the way, but I've played when that facet was in the game, so its an oh yeah that thing moment when you explain the joke.

Keep digging, you might reach tencent headquarters.

It made no sense.

Do you have any idea how annoying Aui_2000 is?

ok, but is dota fun?

Wow, you really are annoying.

is dota fun?

Are you an aggressive person? That's the only time Dota is fun. To win Dota, you need to kill people and then destroy where they live.

I haven't played in years and sometimes I think about coming back but I know the NA servers have gotten even worse then they were when I quit