Can Anon Babble finally admit Skyrim is the best TES game now? Not even Oblivion could surpass it

You are no better than ubislop with their "players" statistics.

Skyrim has much better exploration in terms of finding items/spells/powers in the world and dungeons, as well as more interesting dungeons that have more of a theme or backstory to be told with environmental story telling. Oblivion is the weakest in the series in those regards. Skyrim is arguably weaker in terms of spell variety and faction quests, but the better exploration goes a long way to compete with oblivion.

Literally everything. Every single thing. I'm not even really a skyrim fan but it's objectively true, Oblivion was a low point for the series and only enjoyed for nostalgia, which is why the remaster is a flash in the pan. Players went back to play it and remembered what it was actually like, and stopped playing.

Coping hard oblivionfag.

t.actual retard

I don't even like oblivion you dumb fuck, are you even aware how big the community is for shitty modpacks like Nolvus and Lorerim(casual requiem)? most of the numbers daily are from those people, then the rest is the based degen crowd

i genuinely enjoyed it and couldn't put it down. i haven't beat skyrim yet

Deserved, should've fixed the enemy level scaling.

filtered

enemies getting removed from the game and bandits wearing daedric and glass armor is giga retardation

Oblivion's quests are much better than Skyrim's

The writing in Skyrim is fucking abysmal

We all know what the best Elder Scrolls game is and it isn't Oblivion or Skyrim

Based Daggerfall enjoyer.

enemies getting stronger doesn't make sense b-because it just doesn't OK!?

Have sex mods
Run on 10 year old hardware for poorfags

Mods fixed the first already

The good systems in oblivion Skyrim changed (though most are sidegrades/ui simplifications outside of magic being utterly ruined) but everything bad in oblivion Skyrim kept. Like level scaled loot, quest rewards and enemy level lists. All further enshittened by making low level exploration lock the locations to being bad forever because Todd refuses to hire a map encounter designer.

Yes, and?

random bandits living out of a cave wearing full suits of ebony forged with the essence of daedra, the rarest and most powerful of armors outside of unique artifacts

dude this totally makes sense

I've never played Basedrim (I typo'd that on phone but I'm keeping it) but I don't understand how it could possibly have better exploration when Skyrim is uglier and has no biome diversity, snow, cold plains, cold forest, cold river, cold mountain.

Game with mods had more players than game with no mods

H-how could this be?

Full daedric bandits bro

Hasn't played the game toaster can't run it and filtered by the OG

Bandits having a piece of glass armor every once in a while isn't half as unimmersive as iron armor bandit (lv25+) not actually having armorscore (why your mace perk doesn't do shit) and a bloated health pool with no visual feedback at all for why they take more hits than before.

Here's the real reason btw, shitrim runs on toasters, Goddblivion needs a richfag PC

...in your delusional fantasies

Vanilla Skyrim is already better than Oblivion. Mods make Skyrim the best TES by far. Reminder:

Modded

Skyrim > Morrowind >>> Oblivion > Daggerfall > Arena

Vanilla

Morrowind > Skyrim > Oblivion > Daggerfall > Arena

gates to oblivion to opening up all over cyrodiil

doesn't make sense bandits could loot gates for armor & weapons or get them from slain dremora

You're in your 40s or 50s still hanging out on Anon Babble

It happens even if the gates haven't been opening outside of Kvatch yet.

shitrim above morrowind in any shape or form

shitrim is literally not even a RPG and even after slapping 1000 mods on it the game can only be a literal polished turd at best, with oblivion you only need a level scaling mod which also keeps enemy variety + old spells that got removed + better loot in dungeons and you're gucci

vanilla btw

I wonder why

Skyrim has a DLC that introduces Shivering Isles elements

the main quest is to read a note that tells you to go kill 4 bandit camps

LMAO

i'm half the age of a 50 year old

make 4000 iron daggers

Buy daedra heart from junk merchant, punch him in head until he gets more

Craft full suit of ebony armor forged with the essence of daedra

Be level 4

Someone will froth and seethe that actual ideal smithing power leveling exploit is making a companion pick up 10000lbs of dwemer scrap or transmuting gold, blithely unaware of the point they're proving

Shitrim is literally the only TES game that was made unscaled and unleveled via mods, it's also the only game that can be turned into a proper RPG with mods. Actually de-leveling Oblivion or Morrowind would be a massive undertaking that nobody has put in the effort to do becuase the modding scene is nowhere near Skyrims. All of the mods that "unfuck" level scaling don't actually remove level scaling.

vanilla

Your opinion is irrelevant vanilla consolefag.

arch.b4k.dev/v/search/filename/shitrim/

The oblivion "put easy stuff near towns and hard stuff far away from towns" mod from the original was ported to the remaster like a week ago buddy

That pic is modded btw.

More me it's the Dwemer ruins being infinitely more interesting than the Ayleid garbage. Oblivion really is just generic Lord of the Rings slop.

Actually de-leveling (...) Morrowind

morrowind basically is de-levelled, there's a handful of mobs that will scale just to keep it interesting

Actually, I'll argue quite strongly that Oblivion plays and feels significantly better out-of-the-box than Skyrim. Even if there were muh Dark Souls mods for Remastered, I wouldn't even be tempted to install them because it just feels good. I'm not quite sure why, if it's the animations, or feedback, or just the camera being much better than it was before, but it's very satisfying, even without killmoves.

I played the two back to back to see the difference and QOL in skyrim is objectively much higher

The one thing I wish they'd added was headshot multipliers on bows but the overall changes to the perk statlines (gameplay effects/changes instead of just unlocking power attacks) is a lot better than old Oblivion or Skyrim. Half of every combat tree is just unlocking directional power attacks and that was fucking lazy in both games but especially Skyrim.

QOL in skyrim is objectively much higher

now try to use a spell while a two-handed weapon/sword and shield is equipped

no visual feedback

Did you somehow miss the writing at the top of your screen that says "bandit chief"?
Regular bandits should be a OHK by the time you start encountering those

There's a handful mobs that aren't replaced as you level.

I wish they'd added was headshot multipliers on bows

did Skyrim have this?

Transmuting gold isn't an exploit, the reason an entire gold ingot is only worth 100 Septims is because that's how the imperial mint produces currency
Its literally the "money printer goes brr" meme but without the hassle of needing to invent paper money first

No, it didn't, but given that Remastered is built on UE5 it wouldn't be challenging to add.

Followers, Skyrim has much more followers/waifus and better follower system.

Oh yeah I unironically forgot about that
I'll concede that there are some things oblivion does better, like giving you the ability to both block attacks and cast spells without having to change weapons

Visual feedback

The name tag on shoeless iron armor bandit

Name tag on health sponge... le good!

Equipment visually showing (actually real) armor score... le bad!

Usually your type deflect and pretend draugr penta giga deathlord9000 is a real enemy type but you jumped right on the sword of defending annoyingly spongy bandits that never have a single thing worth taking off their corpses

You're supposed to be a shoutGOD in skyrim, not a spelltranny.

I have always said Skyrim is the best game ever made. No other game comes close.

It's mods. That's it.

No other game comes close

ESO is the best Elder Scrolls game

Plebians have plebian tastes.
This is news to whom?

The average consumer here is a zoomer
Zoomers are completely mentally braindead and retarded.
Skyrim isn’t an RPG; it’s a baby’s first action game literal women and downies play
Skyrim is popular because it caters to the braindead masses of millions of useless eater cattle who turn their brains off. It’s why most skybabies can’t play Morrowind because it’s text reading and actual RPG stat determinate. Zoomers are too mentally deficient to play anything other than Skyrim it’s why it’s so popular; you can waste your whole worthless life installing sex mods and anime mods because zoomers are too busy masturbating to care about the absolute state of the industry and RPGs in general
Completely content with mediocrity
Most zoomers can’t even read this many words

No leveling up, no perk trees, no economy, no dungeons, Ubisoft towers. Infinitely worse game you posted.

No, Morrowind.

Shitwind

More enjoyable than bandits having fuck all worth looting off their corpses. I see a bandit in glass armor and know it's pay day.
Skyrim enemies do scale as well, but their gear does not: only their stats do. Skyrim has the inverse of Oblivion's problem; enemies become too weak too quickly, the game is solved by level 5, and the game discourages the mix of magic with other playstyles that aren't pure mage.

Also too many fucking archers.
Shouts are pathetically weak for the most part, only a small handful are ever worth using. The only good way to play skyrim is mungo-smash sword and board or stealth archery.

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What's with that?

sex mods

i'd rather play skyrim but it looks like washed out shit without needing to mod it to fuck, meanwhile oblivion actually has color because it's not a barren snowland with one forest that looks like shit

oh yea and oblivion has actual stats and not the generic casualised bullshit

unironically playing unmodded skyrim

TRVKE
xbox 3shitty kids btfo

is thins unironically comparing oblivion visuals to skyrims?

shitrim

shitlivion

shitfall

shitrena

I can only playthrough TES combat for a hour at most before needing to wash my mouth with Chivalry 2.

Players went back to play it and remembered what it was actually like, and stopped playing.

Or maybe people came back, had their dosis of nostalgia, finished the game and just move on? Do you know that most oblivion players are literal dads with a busy life instead of virgin losers who would bother installing hundred of hentai mods like most of the skyrim playerbase right?

Better dungeons

No

Better combat

Only for stealth archers

Better enemy scaling

Skill issue

Better loot

No

Better world

No

Better music

More dynamic =/= better

Better VAs

Blander and more boring in every way

No leveling up

Health and stamina increases.

no economy

Skyrim doesn't have this either.

divine beasts, shrines, and hyrule castle aren't dungeons because they just aren't okay?!?!?!

Retard.

Ubisoft towers

You never played an ubisoft game if you think BOTW towers are anything like that. Ubisoft towers reveal points of interest on the map, BOTW towers don't do that.

is Skyrim on the switch worth it?

No

Oblivion's copy-paste dungeons with no lore or backstory and nothing worthwhile in them aren't better than Skyrim's that do the opposite.

defending level scaling slop

b8

defending shit loot

b8

defending oblivion's empty world

b8

defending oblivion's shit voice acting

b8

WTF our Unreal5-slop that somehow looks uglier than the original is being outcompeted by a game that runs on fucking toasters in 2025

HELP HELP! WE'RE BEING REPRESSED!

How about make a fun game that's cheap, runs on almost anything, and is mechanically deep instead of graphically?
If you're going to become graphics-whores at least go the full mile with body deformation/destruction like Soldier of Fortune 2 or Dead Space or some shit.

I love Oblivion. The remaster was fantastic, the things Oblivion does better than Skyrim are as follows: Better quests, Better ambient music, Better melee, Better lockpicking (literally git gud) More armor slots, Spellcrafting and character builds don't end up being a stealth archer meta.

Everything else Skyrim does better.

Oblivion's copy-paste dungeons with no lore or backstory and nothing worthwhile in them aren't better than Skyrim's that do the opposite.

I sure do love trudging through 400 "dungeons" that are all completely linear single paths full of shitty draugr that magically have a shortcut back to the entrance at the end after giving me a worthless shout word

no further arguments

Good talk bud

As opposed to Skyrim? Where at level 1 you'll fight iron-armor bandits with 10hp, and at level 30 you'll fight iron-armor bandits who magically hit 40x as hard with 100x as much HP?...

Nah, Skyrims quest chains are too bad.

Oblivion's copy-paste dungeons with no lore or backstory and nothing worthwhile in them aren't better than Skyrim's that do the opposite.

Are you playing the same Skyrim we've played? All the dungeons in Skyrim are just draugr tombs which somehow all have the exit located at the entrance.

doesn't denial oblivion dungeons are copy-pasted with no lore or backstory and nothing worthwhile in them

Concession accepted.

Vanilla Oblivion > Vanilla Skyrm

Oblivion dungeon

Level-scaled loot that past like level 5 will include shit with shield enchantments, reflect damage, huge stat boosts, other crazy shit

Skyrim dungeon

Level fucking 80 and you'll still mostly find urns with 5 gold in them, unenchanted gear that hits like a wet noodle, and if you're lucky, an elemental enchantment that does nowhere near the damage you need

You can lie to yourself, but you cannot lie to me. I hope you have a great day, liars like you seldom do.

sex mods

I booted up my version of skyrim to keep me from buying oblivion.
I'm not paying $50 for a game that I basically already own and yes, I'm a poor fag with a 7 year old PC
And it was perfect. It was like jerking off before hitting on the bar slut. Played Skyrim for a few hours, hit post nut clarity, and then went back to doing other things.

What do you think you'll be doing when you're 40 anon?

The only thing I'll say about Skyrim's dungeons is that they are streamlined.... and they are better for it. Oblivion's dungeons are sometimes confusing and have many directions you can go, but... idk.... it's not always fun. It SHOULD be fun to have a sprawling dungeon, but I like Skyrim's "straight shots" better.

Also, Skyrim's dungeons usually have a bit more fanfare. When you get to the end, there's some elite type enemy, a chest with guaranteed goodies, and a Dragon shout you get as a reward. Then on top of that, you get a nice little exit meaning there is no backtracking. These little things go a long way, though I overall enjoy Oblivion more.

no lore or backstory

So just like 90% of Skyrim's dungeons, only without actually somewhat interesting ones with lore relevance like Sancre Tor or Miscarcand

This, I love slogging through 30 minutes of draugr to get a word for the Disarm shout and some dwarven boots of the minor squire

Oblivion quests are better than Skyrims, guild quests and just quest discovery in general. Customs spells are amazing even if they break the game. That said, the remake is unstable, glitchy dogshit with terrible performance for mediocre graphics and you should just play a modded version of the old game instead. Absolutely forgot how much fun it was.

Copy pasted dungeon... Tileset... Like every single Bethesda game made with the creation engine

Anyone who says this canard i assume is a jeet just fucking seething the French and Chinese made oblivion2.

The dungeons actually have layouts in oblivion and generic magic loot is a better bad system than pure rng you're only ever intended to disenchant. In 2006 "cell_dirt_room_with_treasure_chest_6" might have been ugly but now it's prettier than cell_draugr_hallway_1(of 1) copy pasted all over Skyrim.

Yes, oblivion was higher quality on a technical level

Analogy of playing skyrim over oblivion is compulsively masturbating instead of trying to interact with an actual woman

What people don't get about Oblivion is it's not really an open world game. Like, TECHNICALLY it is, but really for maximum enjoyment you have to follow a quest line. Yeah, at any time you want, you can get on a horse and just go in whatever direction you feel like, but the real meat and potatoes of Oblivion is questing, and the quests usually take you to the interesting locations anyway. Play Oblivion like a linear game that lets you frolic in its world.

Skyrim is built more like an adventure game. Go out and explore and do whatever. Go into this random dungeon and you may be surprised, and you might even do the quest connected with the dungeon right then and there. I prefer Oblivion, but I see why Skyrim hit the mainstream in a much bigger way.

Go out and explore and do whatever. Go into this random dungeon and you may be surprised, and you might even do the quest connected with the dungeon

This is literally how I play Oblivion, you run into a ton of the minor quests in the game by just wandering around the world

The nice thing about Skyrim is you can just fuck off for an hour with no game knowledge whatsoever, kill some shit, loot some shit, and get a bit better at the game. That's it, that's the appeal. You get in, play a game, and get out. You don't need context for all that shit or really any deep strategy, you just play game. There's not enough of that out there.

Yeah don't get me wrong, I do that too. That's what I am doing now that I've finished all the guilds, dlc, and MQ. I suppose how I should phrase it is, Oblivion's strength is in its questing, Skyrim's strength is in randomly exploring. Obviously both games do what the other does as well.

how long before Skyrim Remastered in the UE5 engine? there's no chance Todd let's this opportunity skip through his fingers.

Better combat

ARE you fucking gay? Magic fucking sucks in Skyrim. Switching spells is slow, the double casting gimmick is just that, you can't cast spells and have a sword and shield. Only Steath archer is better, everything else is the same, and dual wielding is fucking boring.

Better enemy scaling

Better loot

These are fucking nonsense points, it's functionally the same in both games.

Better world

That's a coin toss on choose your flavor of vanilla bland.

I can't wait.

I just hope they keep all the sexy armors in the base game. I don't care if modders can put it back in, I don't like the precedence it sets.

If you're gonna judge Oblivion unmodded, may as well judge Skyrim unmodded. Aside from bimbo waifu mods and turning the game into rollslop, Oblivion gameplay mods are better than skyrim's too. Oscuro's alone mogs every skyrim gameplay overhaul.

I kinda wish they brought back Elder Scrolls Adventures style games. They could outsource them to another studio or have a splinter group at Bethesda. It would be nice to have a linear action/story focused game between mainline Elder Scrolls games.

chimperials lost

The only good way to play skyrim is mungo-smash sword and board or stealth archery.

Meh. If you can't walk up and smack it, it's probably not worth killing anyway.

and none of them are randomised radiant quests

What reason is there for headlines like this?

Clearly Bethesda didn't pay the lügenpresse bribe this month and they're paying the price now.

I just wish Oblivion had crossbows. That's the coolest shit in Skyrim.

People will play when good sex mods come out for it.

this, I'm waiting

The only thing I'll say about Skyrim's dungeons is that they are streamlined.... and they are better for it. Oblivion's dungeons are sometimes confusing and have many directions you can go, but... idk.... it's not always fun. It SHOULD be fun to have a sprawling dungeon, but I like Skyrim's "straight shots" better.

Because Oblivion's dungeons are the unholy trifecta of:

first-person

cramped as hell

no unique landmarks

Sprawling dungeons CAN be cool. It's a lot easier when the camera's pulled back so you can see more of the maze, but Metroid Prime made first-person work by ensuring every room was really unique and memorable so the player had lots of reference points (and a mini-map) to orient themselves around. Oblivion did literally the exact opposite. Everything looks the exact fucking same because the vast majority of dungeons were crafted by a single guy with a box of room templates cranking out 5 dungeons a day by randomly stapling shit together.

It's not good level design. Bethesda knew it wasn't good level design. They promptly hired 8 actual level designers before working on the next game. But posers don't trust their instincts so they default to lazy heuristics like "more sprawling = more better" and adhere to it religiously.

I can marry and own a home without mods and I enjoy the fuck out of killing the blades after removing their essential status
Yes I enjoy killing thalmor on sight too.

Enemies getting removed from the spawn pool, resulting in less enemy variety, is stupid.

I love crossbows but it's stupid that there are only two of them in Skyrim

Animation framework released like yesterday

With 1 whole animation, but soon

Baking for Mara by the guy that lets you fuck not pokemon. Function wise like NBO it shits all over the 2011 jank of modding Skyrim

You know you can buy houses in Oblivion too, right? And marriage is a meme in Skyrim, it's as pointless and meaningless as Fable marriage

Sure was and I play both games still while bots try to farm for twitter screenshots like this thread does
pirate is stroking his dick while his engagement meter goes up since the check will clear at the end of the month

Does Oblivion Remaster even have a mod organizer yet? When I first had a look everyone was manually installing mods directly into their folders.

Marriage in skyrim is not pointless for me since I enjoy the skill boost from fucking my argonian wife each day

I can't make anyone go to my barren dead home in oblivion really

Only real reason I can see to use one is as a dump for random shit and if you are a vampire or something

8 new level designers resulted in hallway+secret door pasted 300 times on the map

And what would you say if the dungeons were pretty with a fov slider, local map, and a spell to take you right to your quest target for Skyrim handholding?

You get a house wench in Oblivion, only slightly used. She cooks for you and serves you drinks.

lore is paper thin

one of the most hideous examples of open-world copy pasting

actively gets worse the longer you play it, reaching the point around hour 20 where it can only be enjoyed as a brainless stoner game, on the level of idler games

Player count is not an effective measure of a game's quality, only popularity.

I would say shut the fuck up pseud. Shitty level design doesn't make Oblivion a hardcore game.

It hasn't been resold with an HD mod and political correctness edits version yet.

Oblivion is my favorite game that I have never and will never play.

Morrowfags will play TR completely vanilla and act smug about it

20 year old game is being outdone by 14 year old game

Who the ever living fuck cares?

Todd

I wonder if people truly think Todd has any say in these endeavors or if it is all just a joke.
Microsoft decides this. Todd works on mainline titles. He has nothing at all to do with remakes.

tfw we never had a prime Arkane game set in the world of TES

But shitty mobile games are okay I guess ?

Better dungeons

Depends.

Better combat

All TES have shitty combat. All of them.

Better enemy scaling

Enemy scaling is aids and you know it. It applies both to oblivion and skyrim.

Better loot

No.

Better world

Absolutely not.

Better music

Music is pretty much the same.

Better VAs

I would agree on this one, at very least I don't have to hear the same old lady voicing every female character.

Won't happen until you stop playing the game. Todd keep updating the game so you can finally stop playing the game. Just stop playing skyrim.

Only real reason I can see to use one is as a dump for random shit

That's 99% of the reason to have a house in any Bethesda game

Music is pretty much the same.

I've thought for years that Skyrim's music flows better into/out of various places and situations, but Oblivion has better individual songs. Anytime I think of TES town music I always think of Watchman's Ease or Harvest Dawn

tes fans who only play the games for mods go back to the game with more mods

WOAH
IM SHOCKED

I like how the skyblivion mod has just been delayed indefinitely

average shitter bandit can waltz through the gates of Oblivion and loot everything that isn't nailed down

The absolute state of the Septims and their dogshit legions.

There is no point to exploring anything in Oblivion. Everything is leveled so aggressively it will all be the same no matter where you go. No unique or interesting items placed in the world, even the quest rewards are leveled and in general shittier than the regular items you find until you are at the max level for reward scaling.

Way less equipment, weapons, spell types than Morrowind. Skyrim managed to at least improve some of the issues with level scaling.Oblivion needs complete overhaul mods to fix all of its problems to even attempt to be on the level of Morrowind or Skyrim. And I say this completely unbiased because Oblivion was the first elder scrolls game I ever played.

giving Todd the opportunity to buckbreak the lists again

That'll be $80 + tip thanks

install ascension
game needs a lot of work still but it helps
i would like to make an edit to change value of silverware to like triple the amount and maybe make some gold variants as boss loot drops to make up for less valuable gear in general but idk how

I feel like Skyrim isn't that much better. It has the advantage of more hand crafted dungeons, but the level design itself is usually unremarkable and the loot is mostly still leveled.
Also dragons are just as annoying as Oblivion gates imo.

Flopblivion

Your narrative cracking and you're still in denial about it.

Morrowind is for weirdos.
Skyrim is for normie redditors.
Oblivion seems to be in that sweet spot. It has that "magic something" but not so much that it's only for degenerates. It's streamlined for accessibility, but not in a braindead way like Skyrim. It seems to be the CHADS choice for an Elder Scrolls experience.

I can't take her to kill elves with me

Old oblivion had lots of good sex mods, I'd argue they were better than Skyrim's.

You can get up to 6 followers in Oblivion who never die if you start the correct quests and never complete them.

more hand crafted dungeons

Doesn't help when the vast majority of them are straight lines

Filtered by a T junction

And? I don't give a fuck nigga, I want to pick them not use some old niggas as funny as it is

People tell me that I have to use magic to play Oblivion, but I seem to be doing fine with just a 1 handed longsword. Level 33, playing on expert, light armor + umbra's sword. Light Armor and blade skills are at a 100 thoughbeit.

That's precisely why Oblivion is the worst out of the three imo

not a great RPG like Morrowind

not a streamlined fantasy simuator like Skyrim

player count

if player counts dictated which games were the best then Anon Babble would be sucking off mobileslop and shitty generic anime girls all day OH WAIT

Skyrim is the cream of the crop of the TES franchise

Grim

Skyrim is made for retards
Most of gamers are subhuman retards
Simple as that

says the weirdo normie redditor

what is your definition of magic because that is relevant, to you it could just be throwing fireballs but they could mean resto, alchemy, soul gems, enchantments, etc.

Oblivion and skyrim exploration is actually garbage once you lose the initial exploration spirit. There will never be a situation in oblivion or skyrim where you find something unexpected, and the gear is also always the same. It boggles my mind how bad the dungeons are and how people can praise skyrim and oblivion about anything other than visuals because frankly all they both got is good visuals. Every single gameplay mechanic is poorly implemented and the questing/story is so fucking bad.

I'd rather be a weirdo than to do Oblivion gates lmao

I use magic to heal myself and to replenish my stamina bar, but the sense I got from posters is that I had to use spells offensively.

It's not which is "better" as much as the autism required to get above average entertainment out of Skyrim is much lower than is required by Oblivion. You're just seeing the nostalgia novelty wear off and the different elder scrolls fans settle back into their natural niches.
Also sex mods.

Oblivion is the only TES game with wiki recommending you to autistically level your character or you're essentially fucked

Nice balance you got there.

Having to hotbar potions and use 10 per enemy while at armor cap+whatever magic/physical reflects you're using as you hit enemies 30 times to make them die is viable, not optimal. Meme sword or spell chaining and those enemies die in a tenth of the time/as quick as on adept due to exponential multiplication of percentages. Once you've killed mehruns dagon with custom spells you crafted before lv10 on master you just play on adept with normal spells/weapon effects or relegated yourself to mechanically nuking every threat in the game forever.

It's like when you realize you can make a sword that does 10,000+ damage without leaving whiterun
You put it on the shelf or are just broken like the game from that point on.

nah magic has a pretty broad meaning in this game but you should be using some aspect of it to complement your character, like enhancing their speed or carry weight for instance, its just usually the magic you use complements your character, like a thief that uses stealth magic. he wont be shooting a fireball when he already has a bow

I'm body type nonbuynary.

That's what I alluded to.

Oblivion needs fixed locations for it's generic dungeon loot and a non level scaled world but it's at least possible for that to happen, the mods exist. Skyrim doesn't have loot tables, everything is randomly generated with weak enchantments meant for you to disenchant and craft into real gear. Unfixable without a total redesign

doing fine

Its not hard to "do fine" in oblivion, its an easy game. Mage is not only strong even on higher difficulties but you can also roleplay around and make stupid spells to do various things either to minmax and be extra OP or just goof around with the game, its just generally more fun to use magic in oblivion.

Meanwhile physical damage has always been hot garbage in oblivion and you end up needing to use poisons or enchants to do respectable damage.
When i played oblivion i did melee physical damage and it was total ass, i did hardly any damage unless my weapon was enchanted and it ran out after every couple of mobs so I was always going back into inventory to recharge weapon or use a potion. It was tedious as hell at high level.

Bleed from blade perk technically deals magic damage btw. so no escape for you you are a magic damage dealer now.

Better dungeons

I'd say both are shit. Skyrim have bigger dungeons, but the core design is just shit

Better combat

I'd admit to this one. Skyrim just have more fun with dragon shouts and shit

Better enemy scaling

Both are shit at that

Better loot

Same as

Better world

I disagree, and you know exactly why

Better music

Dunno

Better VAs

Literally the same people voicing oblivion were still voicing for skyrim

Sex mods.

Best mod tools and most stable.

Coomer mods.
Thats it. At least 85% of current active skyrim players fucks dogs.

In Oblivion Remastered blade skill was reworked so that heavy attacks apply "weakness to normal weapons" onto enemies. Probably why anon is having an easy time with his blade.

First of all its main reason is clickbait. The title doesn't tell you what ''14 year old Bethesda game'' it is about. It could've more easily just said Skyrim.

A lot of articles on the web are now formulated like this, or similarly.

Doesn't do much without weakness to magic chaining above normal difficulty. .33x damage and +some% weakness to normal weapon damage is still not much damage. Now when you're multiplying weakness to normal weapons (a magic effect, just works) by 3000% it'll kill things on any difficulty, just slower than elemental damage and it's additional multiplier layer.

Oblivion dungeons are less linear but every single other factoid about dungeons is in skyrims favor.

This is the truth. I played oblivion remaster for a while but it got repetitive fast. Then i played skyrim for a bit. And now im playing tainted grail.

Making skyrim vr with mods a thing. combat's a lot more fun when you're swinging your arms and cutting heads like its blade and sorcery. plus the better UI

Is there anyone who enjoys Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim???

Getting illusion to level 50 and gaining access to full invisibility spells is gamebreaking

I bet Skyrim Remastered has already been ordered.

No loot

Draugr or bandits 90% of the time, 10% falmer the rocks are speaking poisonese bullshit

Arr rook same

You were mentally tricked into thinking dungeons are ok in Skyrim because you only go into them as a radiant quest objective. They systematized "random" exploration and it's good design *but* has been back ported into oblivion through radiant thieves/fighters/mages guild quests. They didn't do a damn thing to improve dungeons, actually made them objectively worse through the removal of powerful randomized loot/they're all literally just a hallway, but they gamified going into them in the first place.

yep, they would be idiots to do something else over skyrim

I played the game just fine 19 years ago as a retarded 16 year old, dude

It's been out for a while now and hasn't been patched once on steam despite all the bugs and glitches and broken quests, so big wonder people are dropping it

I'm actually shocked by that. A lot of the issues I saw on day 1 I was like "oh it's no biggy, they'll prolly patch that in a couple days maybe 1 week tops" and nothing so far. Just crazy.

uhh level scaling until you encounter ebony draugr shouting you

normal people usually have varied tastes yes

yup it was full contradictory to the game design hope tod has the balls to return attributes and make it like virtuos

ESO basically its that sadly

Oblivion gates are kino and I am tired of pretending they're not.

Run

Skyrim's world design is a fucking masterpiece. It's designed in a way where no matter where you are or what you do, you'll always see something new or interesting, you'll stumble on random quests and stories and those stories will become YOUR stories as the player, because they happen to you, you don't seek them out. Skyrim is the best at this out of all TES games. It always feels like the world is reacting to you.
In Oblivion the world is like a hub area. Nothing interesting really happens in it to you, you have to go pick up quests yourself for things to happen.
With Skyrim, you can just throw yourself to the world and stories will happen naturally, and no game since then has replicated this ever.

With the levelling changes in remastered, do you still limit your levels, or do you just take them every time you can?

Nothing

Remastered looks and runs like shit, give it time and Oblivion surpasses it.

first times rest you just rush and pray you got a good sigil stone

Be oblivion

Talk to random guy

Ask rumors

Sometimes some new quest added to log

Could have found that ghost or whatever yourself but now you know where it is

Be Skyrim

NPCs only start their own quests

I like how the remaster completely exposed all the lies of how Oblivion is superior.

draugr dungeons > oblivion gates

Dragonborn > Tiber Martin’s “literally who” BFF

breaking game with alchemy > breaking game with magic crafting

Astrid being retarded > the entire Dark Brotherhood (including the nightmother) being retarded

character builds don't end up being a stealth archer meta

Don't really agree with this. If you find yourself constantly ending up as a stealth archer in Skyrim the problem is you.
I've never played a stealth archer in Skyrm.
You have other options in vanilla and when you add mods you have tons more, I've played elemental mages, summoners, spell blades, melee assassins, warriors, paladins, druids, normal archers etc.

b-b-b-b-but the quests are so goooood

dragonborn sucked you end up as hermaus mora bitch and sovengard was a bunch of pussies inside a big hut

No. But burgermutt autists who are driven into perpetual pisshitears whirlwind by the mere existence of JRPGs will pretend that their over-wrought murder simulators are akshully super deep and engaging with great storytelling.

Play the game retard. Mora takes the chieftan’s soul instead of yours