Cancelled Black Panther game spent 4 years in pre-production

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Cancelled Black Panther game spent 4 years in pre-production

So what was Black Panther, and why did it get canceled?

The news came as a shock to many Cliffhanger employees, according to people familiar with this week's events. Cliffhanger was actively hiring staff, and Black Panther had recently passed what EA calls a "gate" — a development milestone where executives review a game's progress and decide whether to continue production. The team had momentum, and the project was coalescing, according to the people, who asked not to be identified discussing nonpublic information.

Others familiar with the project told me that EA executives were frustrated that the game had not yet left the pre-production phase after nearly four years in development.

The highlight of Shadow of Mordor was the Nemesis System, which allowed certain orcs to develop traits and personalities based on the player's actions throughout the game. For Black Panther, Cliffhanger was building a new system that would expand on those ideas.

The plan, according to the people familiar with the game's development, was to feature various playable heroes from the comic-book universe, such as T'Challa, Killmonger and Shuri, all competing for the mantle of Black Panther, which would grant superhuman strength. The player would take control of one of these heroes, while the others would become rivals with whom the player could cultivate relationships.

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The absolute state of Western AAA developers. How the everliving fuck can you spend 4 YEARS IN PRE-PRODUCTION? Pre-prod is literally just the idea man phase.

Similar shit happened with Anthem and many other modern AAA games: years spent dicking around in pre-production. No wonder modern games take 4-6+ years, management is fucking horrendous.

Everloving*

What I get for being a phoneposting faggot

a bunch of lazy, incompetent, black staff does literally nothing for years

still takes almost half a decade to get fired

Sounds about right.

(((Schreier)))

as always, interesting he already had insight but did nothing about it until other people start reporting on it

spent 4 years in pre-production

Well you know how it is.

they only had black people working at the studio.
after 4 years the probably didn't even have a working alpha build and EA just decided to cut their losses.

they only had black people working at the studio.

not true, actually
they posted images of the opening of their new office like 4 months ago and it was basically all white dudes

4 years of pre production for licensed slop

What the actual fuck?

Meanwhile a team of 50 frogs can mog the entire fucking industry simply by having 6th gen development practices.

people saying they were doing nothing were right

lmao

b-but he didn’t fix the problems all by himself

Who gives a fuck moralfag, he’s the only person that actually reports on this shit at all

remember seeing screenshots of all those steam and rebbit threads like

heyyy guys so i was just wondering has anybody heard lately what's going on with the new black panther game because im really excited for it

One reason for the slow progress on Black Panther was that the studio had only just begun scaling up. Many of the workers laid off this week were hired less than a year ago, including some who only joined in the last few weeks and months, said the people familiar.

They probably spent 3 years doing nothing with the all black staff, then some exec stepped in and force hired whites who spent a year in pre production. then it got cancelled because they were gonna produce a flop anyway.

>b-but he didn’t fix the problems all by himself

Who gives a fuck moralfag, he’s the only person that actually reports on this shit at all

I don't really like super heroes. Was black panther even popular enough to warrant a AAA game? I thought people hated the movie.

The project was greenlit and entered pre-production during George Floyd riots, same as every other recent flop. The devs thought we were in a brave new world where everyone suddenly had deep admiration and interest in black people, and they had to make “black stories” or else they’d be remembered as Derek Chauvins when their non-existent children ask them what they did during the Great Racial Awakening of 2020.

Its geniuenly insane how they had nothing to show after 4 years. Not even pre rendered vertical slice literally nothing at all like holy shit. This shit would have late 2028-2029 release window at earliest. Almost a decade to ship licensed capeslop project that costs even more so due to licensing fees.

So they waited 4 years to find someone who could code that wasn't a white male

Black Panther had recently passed what EA calls a "gate"

Apparently not.

the blacks sat in meetings and did nothing but veto the white people votes

Isn't pre production also where they do basic engine building stuff

I think normalfags liked the first one and didn't like the second.
I personally think Black Panther is a shit character.

various playable heroes from the comic-book universe, such as T'Challa, Killmonger and Shuri, all competing for the mantle of Black Panther

I see that no one who actually knows games was involved.

You choose the next Black Panther

Includes characters like T'Challa, M'Baku, Azari, Shuri, Killmonger + more

Intends to replicate authentic African Martial Arts mixed with Superhuman strength/agility + tech

Over the Shoulder POV

Weapons, armor & gadgets are unique to each Black Panther

Explore cities, savannahs & more that let you encounter unique cultures + characters

Story reacts to your choices & actions with unique stories, missions & dynamics.

It honestly sounded like it would've been a good game just from the authentic African Martial Arts alone.

that new Jason Schreier profile picture

Has to be intentional at this point. Dude must have the most cursed genetics, he's 38 but could easily pass for 50+

I know people like to misinterpret shit, but she wasn't talking about the Black Panther game in that quote. She was talking about some garbage gay indie dating game she did before being hired for Black Panther. I doubt she had any hiring power in Cliffhanger Studios. And even if she did she wouldn't have gotten away with that shit
And now watch retards thinking I am defending the ugly negress for pointing this out

youtu.be/OdZWJTQif-c?si=Y5SW7HOKP3HWO6Ww

If a game never left preproduction it means the staff was just a room filled with idea men and women with no idea how to make the game

I think normalfags liked the first one

Did they really LIKE it? BP was during that phase where any Marvel movie made a shit ton and many likely only went for the overarching story leading to IW.

woah there buddy you were trying to offer virtual niggers for sale? I'm glad they cancelled it!

I doubt she had any hiring power in Cliffhanger Studios. And even if she did she wouldn't have gotten away with that shit

There are photos of their office. Not a single black person in sight. Lots of old white men though.

yeah she did this before, and got promoted for it, but i doubt she still does it

4 years preproduction

They canned it probably because the niggers were stretching the development just to collect paychecks.

They were literally just collecting a paycheck while sitting on their asses doing nothing.

Why does the shuttering of their studio come as a surprise? You don't get paid just for existing.

yes?
the dynamic between a small indie company and a huge AAA studio backed by a big publisher is completely different

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Article about Black Panther game never coming out

Uses "Wakanda Forever" as generic header instead of "Wakanda Never"

mm yes make sure to make your corporate postmortem as bland as a matzah

It honestly sounds like they went way over budget and EA pulled the plug due to costs. That's a lot of stuff there.

is that how things work in opposite land?
people stop doing behaviors that they're getting rewarded for?

Yes. Pre production is basically creating a design template they will land on while moving into proper production cycle. Theres always a team that works on prototypes based off design docs and such so a fact they had nothing is retarded. This is done exactly to have anything to show to management/suits when they want to see work done. A lot of projects scale down from that and such but studios should always have internal vertical slice to show off to suits even if a lot of design ideas already got scaled down or even completly scrapped. They apparently had nothing after 4 years. This is vertical slice from cancelled Sucker Punch project for example
drive.google.com/file/d/1qWMhIhievtvbewMNQ36aNFBgG9jmQtik/view
This is something they should have during peak of pre production cycle.

Being a reviled public figure is unironically extremely stressful. It'll prematurely age you. However, it's very deserved in Schreier's case.

I completely lose interest in anything he attaches himself to.

Forget basic engine, this crap likely didn't even reach concept art-phase. Squiggles on a fucking whiteboard, for 4 years.

The holy grail of grifting a paycheck from EA.

Yeah, the older I get the more I realize how miserable fame would be. I want to be rich but I'd never want to be rich and famous.

Its easy to know that anon. They all where racist DEI with no skills or experience on making games.

If it was skilled people then we would have seen a gameplay trailer after 2 years. And a good teaser within 1 year.

These clowns deserved to get fired.

And here, I was worried about my procastination problem!

suffer niggy suffer

Meanwhile Sakurai condenses the idea man phase into a single PowerPoint and immediately starts work on the game if the project is greenlit.
youtu.be/2Iiu1k16Ukc?si=hI1pT_Rs-JpIeDHs

No really, people loved the Deadpool game, and its a short AF game. What the fuck was going on there

check this sheboon page

keked out loud

Funny you mention that game since it was insane money sink and flopped because of that. Development of that Deadpool game was insane and it still is one of the most expensive video game project of all time and keep in mind this shit was in dev in 2010s before budgets got massively inflated.

Modern corporate Western AAA development practices:

Team sizes are bloated beyond belief and decisions/ideas have to go through layers of bureaucracy.

Programmers are less competent than previous generations.

Singular creative directors, who exert actual control and shape a vision, are virtually non-existent. Creative decisions are made by committees, resulting in homogenized game design for the widest audience possible and to optimize profits.

Strange. For the PNW, at a tech firm you'd expect half asians.

he spiked the Dani Lalonders story from showing up at forbes, and is only coming out with his "inside source stuff" after YEARS of waste and mismanagement.

Just because the rest of the journos are even worse doesn't stop him from being a terrible failure.

Development of that Deadpool game was insane and it still is one of the most expensive video game project of all time

Uh? But every Deadpool game looked like the cheapest sjovelware

I'm pretty sure those budgets get bloated on purpose by producers who want a big project under their belt and middle managers who want to milk the company for as long as possible. See Disney for example.

Fun anecdote: An acquaintance of mine recently started working for a publisher. He now has the same problems with his games. He greenlit dumb shit because the presentation was nice or he liked the people. Now none of the games work, because he never asked for any plan beyond the first five minutes of gameplay.

So uh, what games are the PS5 getting now?

Enough people liked the first movie that a low AAA game is viable. Especially if they can get the costs down by reusing shit from an Iron man, Captain America, spider man or Avengers game, or if they can get some sweet crossovers in. Black panthers' powerset is generic enough that any halfway decent third person action game engine should do it justice. You could reskin an Arkham game, with just some updated assets and animation, plus whatever you had for bad guys and it would have been golden.

You could reskin an Arkham game, with just some updated assets and animation, plus whatever you had for bad guys and it would have been golden.

According to the list above the scope of the game was much larger. A giant ass world with 6+ completely unique Batmans.

You realize she's from SBI, and they actually had seminars on getting everyone who doesn't racially agree with you fired? Any team that hires her on it has more death flags than the grizzled veteran/cute girl combo in a JPRG.

I mean just look at the other speakers at that conference she made that statement at.

they actually had seminars on getting everyone who doesn't racially agree with you fired

She's amazing. A 100% success rate.

accidentally walk into the ghetto

get mugged by this gay nigger

I mean the basic concept of some sort of third person action game with Black Panther should have been so much of a no brainer, that I'd at least expect to see SOMETHING to hype up the nerds. I saw more fake Marvel land in Kingdom Hearts than I did of this game.

remember how bad the Avengers game flopped

The graphics sucked a lot.

niggers

people

Pre-prod is literally just the idea man phase.

No it's the proof of concept phase. You layout the technical, narrative and design base to "try to" smooth out the production phase and assess cost and timelines. 4y is long tho.

They should donate all the unsold Shuri copters to Africa

How the fuck do you spent 4 years in pre-production
4 years in production? Sure. Heck take longer. Adapting a system like Nemesis for that idea is likely not easy and I totally get taking their good time with it to make sure it works
But pre production? Motherfucker that's literally just concept art stage, writing a plot and maybe the VA hiring. You don't need more than 2 years max for that.

Interesting how every recent in failure in video game all were greenlit thanks to the political nature of the floyd riots.

Pre-prod is where you detail the design document, nail down technical cornerstones and build the framework for the team (so that all you have to do is to add peons).

Reminder that Kojima/Koji Productions when from getting fired from Konami in 2015 to releasing Death Stranding in 2019. Four years to have your life completely overturned, starting from scratch, and creating a brand new IP in a brand new engine your team was unfamiliar with.

Design by committee is fucking atrocious. Actual creative directors are what the industry needs.

How the fuck do you spent 4 years in pre-production

It's likely only 6-12 months of real pre-prod. Look above how they were scaling the team up massively.
Those 4 years are likely just a few people doing god knows what.

That's why they shut the game down. At this rate it'll take 5 more years for a game to come out and it'll unlikely sell enough to make money back.

Actual creative directors are what the industry needs.

A good product needs a dictator. Not just in games, but basically anywhere.

simping for a games "journalist"

one who leaks data and then cries when publishers blacklist him

one who posts photos of development teams and bitches when they're all white people

I hear it was 3/5ths completed

T'Challa

Killmonger

Shuri

Skrulls

Capeshit's at it again.
Is there a worse genre out there?

pre-production

so no money was lost then

one who leaks data

I doubt Schreier "leaks" anything. I'm pretty sure studios provide him with fabricated leaks and in return he defends their DEI shit. He very obviously does.

There is a 100% chance juicy details will come out of this since they staffed mostly blacks and they will tell everyone what happened and accuse EA of being racist

I mean, 4 years worth of wages for how many people?

One can hope

this is the problem with these mega studios funded by investors, the employees ultimately don't give a fuck what they're working on and are only there to spout the programming that was raped into their head in college, so you have hundreds of incompetent morons sitting around twiddling their thumbs pissing away millions of dollars in good faith investment while management sits on their hands so they dont create a "toxic" work environment that will get them cancelled on bluesky

games that stand the test of time are all made with passion, by people who were really swinging for the fences and were gamers themselves, this is why AAA isn't sustainable

you pay your black slaves?

They were still hiring like crazy, so it was more like 1 year of slowly increasing wages.
Probably why EA got nervous now. The budget ballooned and they pulled the plug. They wouldn't have done it if the game were 3/5th finished.

I don't understand why they needed two Black Panther games to begin with, I saw several people confusing this with that Amy Henig WW2 game

T'Challa would have not even been playable

0 chance of Storm cameo

Good thing this shit was never made.

Of course....in kind

I saw several people confusing this with that Amy Henig WW2 game

Wait, we're not talking about that game with Cap + BP?

it was being developed on n-word time

No it would have definitely had storm will smiths wife version

since they staffed mostly blacks

They didnt though

4 years dicking around

4 years of 'oh this would be so cool we're definitely going to add it write that down'

no it was totally going to have all these cool mechanics like the nemesis system guys for real

Probably spent all that time "brainstorming" and "storyboarding" while playing with props and rotating 3D models around. I imagine some suit was petrified with asking the proudly all black staff about progress and assumed it was 6 months from completion then actually checks and it's literally fuck all kek

the proudly all black staff

This game is all old white dudes.

assumed it was 6 months from completion then actually checks and it's literally fuck all

EA is pretty hands on with checking on progress. Especially since Anthem.

He's no criminal. He's a goddam hero. Imagine getting mugged, and then discount michael Jackson uses his dance attack to dazzle the muggers to let you get away.

CPT. Pic related, written by Dwayne McDuffee.

They didn't even get 3/5ths of the design documentation done. I don't think there's a single 3d model.

When they announced this, they touted the black lead and black management. I guess that was all for show.

EA is pretty hands on with checking on progress. Especially since Anthem.

Then what the FUCK was EA doing? They're famous for being quick on the ejector seat and stepping in early with a chainsaw.

EA did step in early. The team wasn't even fully staffed. Nothing really exists about this game.
Those "4 years" wasn't a full team dicking around.

The great big venn diagram of "MCU fans" and "People who play console-grade video games" overlaps by approximately fuck all though as shown by just about every MCU game flopping.
The only successful Marvel games are the ones that appeal to people outside of the MCU fanbase such as Spider-Man and prior to that the loads of highly successful X-Men games from the early 2000's, and free-to-play stuff like Marvel Rivals and some of the mobile games.

Squiggles on a fucking whiteboard, for 4 years.

How do obtain this job?

Then what the FUCK was EA doing? They're famous for being quick on the ejector seat and stepping in early with a chainsaw.

It has something to do with huge Marvel license involved that must have cost them lots of money. This investment meant that EA had hard time letting it go.

Could it also be that EA has seen that capeshit isn't the money printer it used to be and decided it wouldn't be worth it either way?

must... not... racemix...

4 years in pre production

about the work ethic i'd expect of blacks

How do obtain this job?

Be DEI material.

Was probably several factors. Game scope got out of hand, producers being bad with the budget, market going to shit and DEI capeshit failing reliably.

KWEEN

imagine the bitchfits we could have enjoyed after the first few white panther mods came out

he's 38 but could easily pass for 50+

eevery day i thank god i dont age this bad
jesus
jews truly are hated by god, must be all the evil shit they do

I think the game being more famous for having racist as fuck employees and a title 7 liability waiting to happen than anything they showed the public was a factor as well. I mean, I enjoy dumping on EA for fucking up video game companies, but these fucks have so little to show for their time that I don't even consider them a game company.

What? Wasn't that Wonderwoman game using the Nemesis system?

They probably didn't want to be seen "cancelling the black game".

Now they think the political tides have turned enough to get away with it.

It was supposed to. Also canceled. Completely different staffing heritage, as that one is WB, which is even more incompetent than EA.

4 years of getting paid 50-100k$ a year while doing nothing

lmao
they knew exactly what they were doing, and planned to drag it out as long as possible, if it wasnt shitcanned you would get another Suicide Squad or one of those other for ever development game that goes straight into a flop

Knowing how little justice there is in the world, the dev team will likely be picked up somewhere else to continue their grift.

Well the game was greenlit 4 years ago. That was a time when a lot of money was flowing around.

They probably didn't want to be seen "cancelling the black game".

Maybe. They must have seen that DEI sells like shit. EA can't be that dumb. They would never admit it, but the board must have discussed it.

Chad can only do so much by himself.

4 YEARS IN PRE-PRODUCTION

I hope the AAA industry never changes. This shit is so much fun

i work as a game dev and i saw a project like this before

our studio had a subsidiary, they were working on a "smaller" 20mln$ game, 3 years in the ceo suddenly announces closere the studio and mass layoffs
they do a postmortem, they say they studio burned through 90% of the cash, the producers and menagers lied about the progress of the game, and it never really left prototype stage, every footage the kept showing every few weeks was literally all the had, just bunch of scripted shit, this only came out when they first big playtests started in preparation for first big build
anyway, the people who worked there ended up in bigger studios on same positions, and the board members whose only job was to oversee this project obviously didnt fire themselves, just made excuses

pre-production

Isn't that just the ideation phase? Where you figure out what the fuck you're even making? It shouldn't take 4 fucking years. Especially not when it's a licensed IP, you're not building a world and characters from scratch. And neither in the game design sense because they're building off of established systems. Even if they wanted to be sure they got it right, they should have had SOMETHING by like month 2.

It was also being developed by the creators of the Nemesis system. And didn't they patent it? I'm confused by all of this.

Authentic African Martial Arts

White systemic racism as alive as ever I see

studio burned through 90% of the cash, the producers and menagers lied about the progress of the game, and it never really left prototype stage

I suspect the same here.

this only came out when they first big playtests started in preparation for first big build

I just did some consulting for a larger publisher. They also had to axe a game this year, because it was 12 months to release and the producers had fuck all. Sure there was something playable, but it was barebone, lacking 2/3 of the content, all the game ideas were shit and mostly importantly the game was no fun at all. The first external test was devastating.

The soft sales of Star Wars Outlaws is proof you can no longer just slap a popular IP on the box to guarantee it to sell like hotcakes. When you factor in the ridiculous licensing cut Disney takes for these StarWars/Marvel projects, it's just not worth it.

Even if you manage someone to buy a "Digital Deluxe" $90 edition of a game from PSN, Sony take a 30% cut, then Disney take a 30% cut. The publisher ends up only making $30 on the most expensive version of the game.

Did EA axe the game because it was woke and full of George Floyd murals? Possibly. But I bet wasting 4 years in pre-production when your profit margin is that thing also had something to do with it.

This, watching this shit catch fire but somehow never fully burn down is a better source of entertainment than the games they sometimes release. There's a profundity to it, too. It doesn't just feel like I'm watching, but bearing witness.

Isn't that just the ideation phase? Where you figure out what the fuck you're even making?

No, that's concept. Pre-prod is when the concept stand and you're assembling the full team (which can take a while).

heroes like Killmonger

I mean yeah he was the best character in the movie but he wasn't exactly a hero

Only hires POC

They waste 4 years of dev

Kekekekek

The soft sales of Star Wars Outlaws is proof you can no longer just slap a popular IP on the box to guarantee it to sell like hotcakes.

Oh no, they have to make good games again.

Outlaws was fucking easy. Copy Ubisoft's open world (like from FC5), give the player 15 iconic Star Wars weapons and let them blast. But no, it had to be a bad boring stealth game with an ugly protagonist and fuck all to do.

Pre-prod is when the concept stand and you're assembling the full team (which can take a while).

It doesn't take 4 years to hire somebody to make a video game.

It does when your team is BIPOC only.

The first movie came out during peak woke and was astroturfed as the most empowering thing for black people since the civil rights act. No one actually likes the character they just felt compelled to see that movie by the prevailing culture of 2018.

Pre-prod wasn't 4 years. More like 6 months.
The 4 years was just the SBI nigress dicking around with a few people.

Nice try, Jamal Ginsberg. That studio consisted of foids, trannies, jews, and the blackest gorilla niggers you have ever seen. If it was really filled with actual Whites, especially older Whites, the game would've shipped two years ago and been a financial and critical success (despite being about nigger panther).

Pre-prod wasn't 4 years

I invite you to read the title of this thread again.

The first movie came out during peak woke

Eh, peak woke is now. BP1 kind of started it. It's all 4-5 years delayed due to production times.

Money laundering.

You know why it wouldn't be good? Because western devs can't make actual action games for shit.
It sounds good on paper, but they don't have the talent to pull the execution properly.
I mean 4 years trying to figure out their pipeline is already insane.

Eh, peak woke is now.

Is your head buried in the sand? Woke peaked during the Floyd riots and Chauvin going to jail. That was the zenith of the nigger-worshiping hysteria. Since then it has slowly, very slowly, receded.

Oh, sorry. I falsely assumed it couldn't have possibly been 4 years.

EA are probably going to make the Iron Man game a turbo chud game now lol.

Hence my incredulity. How the fuck do you waste this much time?

Blowing 400 million for Concord or 350 million for Black Cap isn't peak woke to you?

I blame git workflow for this, in the case of the game i talked about, it was very easy to hide due to it being split among like 100 branches, since they used gitlabs for merging requests, they could for ever claim they cant show everything since it cant be merged for one reason or another. And with agile and other retarded workflows you can keep creating tasks and close them endlessly doing no actual work but claim you are always busy.
Just outsource some assets, throw them in unity, do a presentation, show some concept art, some "gameplay", and prepare for next review in 2-4 weeks.

Still, its 100% fault of the upper management in our company, any 100% fault of upper management at EA. This shit should see people fire after the first missed milestones. But again, the CTO, CEO, CPO and all other 3 letter positions will never fire themselves, and public companies stock is split to wide for the investors to force a vote.

Just long enough so they can’t file for unemployment or sue for anything
Genius, really. Kill the nigger slowly.

hire vast majority black development team

after 4 years they have done zero actual work

OH NO NO NO NOOOOOOO AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

compete to be King Nigger

It’s like they made these games with the intent of being offensive to anyone

Concord was a disaster many years in the making. It was greenlit and funded back during peak woke. It came to term after the woke bubble popped, emerging into a very different reality than the one that gave rise to its horrible design choices.

it was very easy to hide due to it being split among like 100 branches

In my experience it's middle management being extremely defensive. They don't want that anything bad can be pinned to them. So they stall everything with a hundred meetings.

Like you said production takes 4-5 years. Peak woke culture was 2018-2020

Sounds woke. Cancelling it was a good choice. Like batgirl, I strongly believe more woke products should be cancelled, especially those that have had a lot of work put into them.

4 years in pre-production

Imagine all the millions of dollars wasted.

Peak woke culture was 2018-2020

Add two more years. There was a shitload of investor money flying around during Covid.
I know that in games there's too much money for 2 more years.

It's so hilarious. The best way to destroy DEI is to do nothing lol.

So, they did zero actual work. Just "thinking" (I guess lol) about making a Marvel action game for 4 years.
Yeah I really think that one anon was right on the money, that bet 20 bucks on some EA suit surprising them and catching them doing nothing and made the call on the spot to cancel the game and fire everyone.
They literally destroy themselves. All we have to do is wait and do nothing.

brand new engin

They just used the decima engine anon, it wasn't new at all

Add two more years. There was a shitload of investor money flying around during Covid.

Yes, until 2022, when the fed hiked interest rates and a whole lot of ponzi schemes started tumbling down in the tech industry. Gaming industry included. There was a glut of over-hiring in tech (and gaming) for years, and Covid exacerbated it, because hiring people was a signal to investors that you were growing. But fed upping interest rates made everybody pump the breaks, which mean these fake ass companies that lived off investor money now had no revenue.

See Twitter for the biggest culprit, which only got exposed to us because Elon bought it out and revealed just how hollow the operation actually was. It was a money pit. With thousands of superfluous employees hired solely to give the illusion of growth and industry. He had to fire tons of people and aggressively monetize the platform, charging people for verified status and other gimmicks, just to make the site solvent without investor money.

I doubt

Because you're uninformed. There's a reason Bethesda blacklisted him.

You can check their Linkedin page if you have an account, tell us how many blacks you find.

linkedin.com/company/cliffhanger-games

You're in every single one of these threads carrying water for them lmao
I'm hoping you're getting paid. Either way the narrative has stuck and won't change. It was a BIPOCLGBT+++ only studio and it crashed and burned like your entire ideology is doing all over the world.

Or to put it simply, you lost.

Bas in brand new to the developers who hadn't worked with it previously

Did they?
I remember finishing one of the Arkham games and wanting more capeshit so I gave it a go. Finished it. It was absolute garbage.

*As in

Schizo?

not a good start

Yeah you're right. Other people in the topics last night went out of their way to post those pictures and linkedin accounts. My bad.

It was a BIPOCLGBT+++ only studio

That was the previous studio. A shitty small indie game with 80 players.

chicano studies

Trump is doing all those foreign students a favour.

All they have to do is license their shit out to eastern devs and give them a good budget.

What was EA doing? It really took them 4 years to realize these guys weren't' doing anything all that time? At best 2 years of pre-production at max if you want to plan everything down to the finest detail of what you want to get done so you don't make a mistake. Anything more and they are just sitting on their asses getting a paycheck.

Anon, engines have been easy to use since 2007 cryengine, migrating to another engine would be easy as fuck and they can just hire experienced decima devs if they went up to that scenario. It wasn't THAT hard.

doubt it. the nemesis system is patented to hell and back by WB. they are absolutely never ever gonna let that go.

Black people are just bad, evil people who only come together for negative and evil causes. When not doing that, they are busy hating each other and bringing each other down.

One black dude

Go on then
So schizo, got it.

gonna be honest
I'd prefer this zesty boi be a superhero than even one more Miles Morales lookalike.

4 years in pre-production

What the fuck? You just know they had an insane budget. What is so hard to plan and brainstorm about making a black panther game?

spent 4 years in pre-production

How much fried chicken and watermelons did she get away with?

shieeeeeeeeeeet niguhh wut yo mean no programin been done?

Not enough. They fired her ass, and started hiring white people after. Unfortunately those dudes didn't make anything either.

black studio

no work gets done

classic

I can't pre!
I can't pre!
I can't pre!
I can't pre!
I can't pre!

I can only assume that it was

hey marketing just came back, scrap everything and reimagine the story as an extraction shooter

hey just spoke with marketing, scrap everything and redesign the base engine as a mobile gacha

hey ive got marketing on the other line, scrap everything and retool the boss fights as an open world gta6 clone

Based.

that sheboon's seethe was hilarious

She also wrote for Suicide Squad. Her track record is practically flawless.

isn't the next mass effect still in pre production?

We used to get entire trilogies of games on a single game console now pre-production takes 4 years. What is even the point? The games are getting worse, costing more, and taking longer to make. Just fucking stop. It's time to go back to PS2 graphics.

Wrong

hey the police are at reception they want to know about all the carjacking and jenkem use

hey the police are at reception again they still want to know about the carjackings and jenkem

why is the building on fire? did the police shoot jayquaviaus after his pants fell down and a gun came out?

This nigger bitch literally talked shit about white people so she can get fucked stupid nigger bitch
FUCK niggers.

Facts don't care about your feelings, liberal.

Are you aware that he didn't know what a word meant 15 years ago? This is very important.

if I found they were milking your employer for nothing like this, Id fire them too

1 less shitty game released

1 more black hole of development costs EA threw money into

All positives

They probably did this highly improbable thing since it fits my worldview

Avatar: The Last Fent Bender

the Nemesis System is so cursed

same people, same failures
what sucks is that you hear how decent people cant find any jobs today, yet these trashes somehow always weasel right onto the next place to fuck it up

This shit would have late 2028-2029 release window at earliest.

You serious?

4 years in pre production with nothing to show for it

expecting a full releas in another 3 to 4 at the earliest

This shit would have spent another 8-10 years in development I guaran fucking tee it, 7 of which would be wasted and the last 1 to 3 being nothing but crunch and outsourcing

That has to be parody

What about meetings on microagressions?

Yes.

Durkadurka

Hilarious.

It is, my dear autist.

make a game that not a single chud would touch with a 10 foor pole

modern audience still picks the one white guy

I know bucks yearn for massa, but damn, if that doesn't tell you what sells, I don't know what will

So AAA video game development is basically the worlds biggest ponzi scheme for 90% of the people involved. Gotcha.

French/Korean

looks like a black chick from Harlem

lol wtf

Likes to build clocks.

kek

all guys are fit

all but one girl are fat

The best way to destroy DEI is to do nothing lol.

while all the DEI people get paid millions
when the studio closes down they just get hired at another big studio for even more money
great job you're doing

Problem was he didn't know what a word meant -- everyone starts out ignorant and can learn -- the problem is he, a journalist, called for activate censorship.

heroes like killmonger

uhhhhhh

Africans have been infilitrating France with help from the government for the past 50 years anon, there are tons of "French" people who look like Harlem niggas and are literally named O'gongo Mbombo. Their passport still reads "French" tho.
We even made a song about it when we won the FIFA World Cup, go google "escuchen corran la bola qatar" and marvel in our lyrical skills.

AAA studios, often shell of the former selves, close down

AA studios and indies get more spotlight just for not being gay and retarded

I don't really hate DEI activist in the same way I don't hate OF thots or streamers, I hate those who are giving them money.
If someone paid me big bucks for telling them to put niggers in their games I'd do it too.

Can't be. I've seen many threads about this small-hat and that was clearly the worst thing he has ever done based on the amount of times it gets brought up.

this thing is higly improbable because it doesn't fit my world view

K

Crazy eyes.

4 years of pre production

How the fuck.

I hate those who are giving them money.

the government?

sometimes, but more often corpos

George floyd of the jungle did his od 5 years ago and modern aaa need 5-8 years to be released

All they had to was ac4 but in space and less but bigger islands/planets
Also let use make our own character, like in jedi academy

Cliffhanger Studios

The studio where a black woman proudly said she was not hiring white people

The game is still in pre-production after 4 years

The studio gets shut down

Niggers ruining everything.
Good. Electronic Arts sucks.

Is it me or does Jason look more jewish the older he gets?

Oh, what gave it away?

AHHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
BLACK ON THE COVER SALES WILL BE SO LOWER THEY ABORT YOUT NIGGER GAME
HAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

Why does the shuttering of their studio come as a surprise? You don't get paid just for existing.

Because communists think you should.

disgusting creatures...

BIGS is a fella so there's 1 fat guy. Ashlie is also a fella so there are 0 women of normal weight.

They unironically do and it's hilarious when they give up the game.

Blade won

Unpopular truth: Black Panther was never good. Not the comics, not the movie, and certainly not any video game.

Yes. Funny thing is is that it was a Kickstarter, and they had a stretch goal to "add a white guy" with a further stretch goal to "remove the white guy". They only reached the first stretch goal and had to add a white guy who ended up being the most popular character by a wide margin.

France is like 50% african now, some places like Paris are much, much higher, smaller towns are less so. Paris is basically south africa level of unsafe. I think the more interesting thing is how would a black french chick have a korean parent. I imagine it could've been a korean tourist visiting France, since France is so free about casual sex that they had to make paternity tests illegal.

paris actually has no-go sharia zones doesn't it?

Lmao you americans complaining immigrants taking over your jobs and demand to deport them but letting blacks sitting on 100k/year job for 4 years doing nothing. Why dont you deport those blacks somewhere? Just because they are registered as american citizen?

i'm in this pic.
this is my 2nd layoff in 1 year.

absolute state of Western AAA developers

Black DEI hire Americans*

4 YEARS IN PRE-PRODUCTION

Money laundering.

modern games take 4-6+ years, management is

Busy cleaning the money they stole*

EA axed this shit and firing the studio? based, honestly

I'm not familiar with day to day politics to know, but I've seen Seine-Saint-Denis described as a full crime 'hood in popular media, and as far back as 2009 I've had people describe certain areas of the city as extremely dangerous. A guy I know hat his daughter win a scholarship in Paris but didn't go because they would've had to live in the worse areas.

And of course the Olympic games had the Seine famously described as a literal river of shit that made the contenders sick with infections.

those autists's spending habits are so messed up I am plenty sure they have nothing saved, all wasted on overrated stuff like 18 bucks coffee, customized mechanical keyboards and other nonsense they will immediately regret spending money into

The highlight of Shadow of Mordor was the Nemesis System, which allowed certain orcs to develop traits and personalities based on the player's actions throughout the game.

Is any game that attempts to use the Nemesis system just doomed from the word go?

It's probably cursed.

most games only ever need 2 yrs for preprod
what the fuck were they doing for 2yrs

i'm in this pic

Yeah right

gitlab has dag pipelines there's no justification for a hold-up

t. devops/pfe nerd

youtu.be/yfxkqFDcIKQ?t=28
they probably watched one of this guy's videos and realized the video games would sell about as well
and ea games pass equivalent doesn't make enough money for them to hide behind player count

Bigs is one of the funniest character designs I've seen in my life.

project manager

get a real job sam

wasn't this the game where the devs got pissed that the most popular character in their telemetry was the italian guy?

Dani Lalonders crying in a dark room about everyone picking Keaton

4 years of pre production

So it was a fucking scam

Not sure what you could expect, when the whole team was a bunch of niggers far too busy munching on fried chicken and watermelons to even touch a keyboard.

what the fuck does "pre-production" even entail and how do you spend 4 years in it??

It means they were fucking around. It's the "idea guy" stage where you come up with a plan for the content. No actual work was done.

(((4 years))) of (((pre-production)))

wasn't this *literally what the post was replying to*

It means nothing is finished yet and everything is in the concept phase, as in they were all sitting in those bean bag chairs in those company meetings talking about jackshit for 4 years straight

DEY JUST NEEDED MO TIME AND MONEY FOR DEY PROGRAM

Romanced by 95% of the playerbase

so much so that it pissed off the devs and made them seethe and bitch all over twitter because he's the most normal looking

"No white characters"

Pasta niggers btfo again

So this is specifically a Black Panther game and not Marvel 1943? This is still coming out, or should employees start looking for other jobs?

Yes they still work on 1943

I'm astonished this bitch got even a drop of clout on the industry, was Validate actually finished?

If you are employed by any company you should be looking for a better job.

I hate western games.

validate

validate what?

The woke elements were surprisingly toned down. The one dindu who wanted to make wyppo pay 4 dem crimes n shiet was the antagonist. Also Disney literally bought their own tickets on mass to get inner city kids to watch the movie. I don't get how the fuck this is supposed to be a conspiracy theory when Disney themselves openly admitted they did this and they made sure to mention that they were doing this on fucking mass as a part of the film's marketing.

Underrated and guaranteed to fly over the heads of the average Anon Babble zoomer

Also Disney literally bought their own tickets on mass to get inner city kids to watch the movie.

Didn't WB do something similar with Wonder Woman?

there's nothing special about being an old, rotten fossil

Prism has always been a scumbag

It is yes, he went throwing around words he didn't know the meaning of, if I was unsure about the meaning of something I would check first.

My parking, worthless nigger

being old enough to have gotten a decent education is pretty special nowadays

How the everliving fuck can you spend 4 YEARS IN PRE-PRODUCTION?

EA has dogshit leadership. They just coast on sports and Sims bullshit.

sure, just park your cock in my ass and i can validate that for you.

No, you're thinking about Captain Marvel, which was Disney again.

Obsessed

why don't competent and sane people want to work for major AAA studios anymore?

Disney also did it again for Captain Marvel, except that time it was caught and documented and the empty theaters shit just didn't line up as chuds went to entire sold out showings where only a few people would show up.

People called us conspiracy nuts for saying it back then, swearing they were massive hits. Funny how these films were both insanely popular but somehow and by pure coincidence had sequels that both flopped coincidentally around the time Yidsney started running into financial difficulties and couldn't afford to bullshit the market anymore. At least with Black Panther they had the excuse that the actor's death had taken audience interest with it, but where the fuck was that excuse for Captain Marvel?

Cliffhanger studios

This sound like one of those shell companies made just to launder money.

How are Keaton and Malik the only decent character designs

I guess the real cliffhanger was what they planned to do after pre-production if they didn't get canned.

Why do game developers do this? Pump so much money into a game with no vision behind it, leading to spending 4 years in pre production, only to be cancelled or end up as a flop and loose money. E33 was made with 10% of the team and budget as most AAA games, yet somehow looks and plays better, while having more actual content than most AAA games. What's the point of bloating budgets to an unfeasible degree If there's no improvement in the quality of games.

here's one that's pretty funny.
he knew about all the sexual harassment accusations at blizzard a handful or two years ago, but didn't report on it before employees started coming out of the woodwork because he was too busy trying to secure a book deal about it.

Suits throw money and don't give a shit to what the fuck devs are doing, and then do bunch of retard ass demands.

Video game development need leash more than anything.

thats most work in IT
i work such a position, and when i started out i was stressed 24/7 that someone will figure out i do nothing, doing nothing was legit mentally draining
took me like a year to realize ... nobody is doing anything, there was like a handful of coders doing all work i had 0 interaction with
so now i work 100% remotly, i wake up at 10, i show up to a meeting or two a day, and spend rest of time playing vidya while getting paid 100k a year

im legit not sure how this is sustainable

Unpopular

another big studio

which proceeds to close down too
shieeeet

they were just diversity hires getting free money for nothing.

it was never meant to enter production

dont worry, they get subsidized from tax money, like ubisoft, so its you losing money, not them, they can set up studios for ever and never sell a single unit of any games, in the end tax money is like free money

still not buying they games

Four years of pre-production sounds about right for a proudly diverse developer that goes out of its way to not hire wypipo. EA should be asking them where the money went.

you are a fucking retard

Wow we got ourselves a fucking MENSA member over here

the retards are the goy cattle who think those people ever face consequences, the state wouldnt crate them if it wanted them to fail

There is no government program that gives you free money if you hire enough niggers. You likely read something else, didn't understand what it meant, and just decided to fill in the blanks with your own retardation.

I genuinely can't tell if this is Shriever or MoonMoon

dont worry, they get subsidized from tax money, like ubisoft

the ubisoft that just had to sell a portion of it's company along with handing over several of it's biggest IPs to one of their competitors in order to avoid shutting down?

6th gen development practices.

Buying and flipping store assets and having token women for the office guys to simp over?
The Japs pioneered that one

Charities were actually bussing in school children to watch it for some reason.

how do people fund shit like this and Concord without ONE PERSON saying it's literal garbage?

bluesky

easiest way to spot a retard

Because there is a thing called toxic positivity. You can't call their bullshit, ever.

There is no government program that gives you free money if you hire enough niggers

oy veyy

"The future of EU funding programmes hinges on the approval and implementation of the proposed €1.8 trillion budget for 2021-2027"

"The updated diversity and inclusion action plan was adopted at the end of 2022 after extensive internal consultations. It sets out the key actions planned around diversity and inclusion for 2023 and 2024 as part of the implementation of the Human Resources Strategy."

And thats just the jewish communist EU, each kiked member state, US and canada have their own programs on top.

So how do you want to work on this game?

Let's just sit around and hate chuds for years until they fire us

I'd play a game with this guy as the character
But I wont buy one with a serious nigger
The sanctimonious morale grandstanding from these nigger games is what makes them unbearable
Let's get some gay niggers from outer space in play

All of that is really vague so I think I was right when I said you were read something you didn't understand and then filled in the blanks.

Moonmoon is way more handsome

and did it shut down?
it got 1,5 bilion from Tencent, which is enough to give them another 5 + years of producing crap even if they suffer loses in hundreds of milions

How the everliving fuck can you spend 4 YEARS IN PRE-PRODUCTION?

They've spent time whining on twitter

vague

200 bilion a year on programs, all of which have requirements government and companies have to fill like diversity, climate change and "proper democracy"

vague

lol, its literally on the official EU website
literally no proof will be good enough for disingenuous fags like you, probably another kike who claims everything is out of context

Again all of that sounds really vague and you can't quote the actual bills themselves.

4 years in pre-production

4 years

They lost.

oh yeah, and ESG ratings are vague too you fucking nigger?
entire global stock market is rated using how "diverse" their companies are

I want you to explain to me what you think an esg rating is.

I don't get it, how hard would making a Black Panther game even be?

Action game in the vein of Ass Creed and Batman where stealth is an option

Sneak around, climb walls, do Catman stuff

Beat the crap out of guys

Get some gadgets and mystical abilities over the course of the game

Other Marvel characters show up in the story

Linear but with alternate paths

~15-20 hour length

Is it really that fucking hard that they need 4 years of pre-production?

Four years of corporate expenses :)

Fired everyone who wasn't 100 percent positive, or not completely in lockstep with their politics and thinking. Got big names in the press to back them 100 percent. Got big names in other friendly companies to back them in Bungie.

Even after the second open beta, where it was clear the game had been rejected by everyone, the press and the industry sycophants were still glazing everyone with how good the game was. And the hits just keep coming. The bungie purchase that pushed Concord also decided to bet on Marathon, and Fairgame$.

Why are you even bothering at all with leftypol there? There's absolutely nothing that he won't ignore, call not specific enough or recontextualize.

and did it shut down?

l2read, retard

in order to avoid shutting down?

Given the hiring constraints, I don't think they would have ever made a successful game. SBI's people have nearly a perfect track record here.

Maybe the game would have stood a chance if the nigger in charge wasn't so incredibly racist.

Game dev times nowadays are bloated because they need a huge team to make sweeping changes to a game at a moment's notice whenever an exec decides to 180 the direction a game is being developed to chase the next buzzword.

Shieeet mup da po wop da fiddy boo dat sum sopa doo wop muh dick axe

All they had to do was take the Jedi Fallen Order game and level structure and give it superhero brawling combat.

T'challa based out of Wakanda's palace as a hub level.

Fly jet to different places like a poacher's camp in the jungle, Hydra base, Atlantis, etc.

Get new combat moves by finding heart shaped herbs to level up.

Have Shuri research tech like double jump and wallrunning as part of story progression.

Fight Klaw, Killmonger, Sauron, Namor, other villains.

How the fuck did it stay so long in preproduction? Were they trying to reinvent the wheel?

You call woke thing bad at work, you put a huge target on your back. They ruin people's lives for fun.

It sounded like a money laundering scheme honestly. EA Motive is still working on their Iron Man game and all they have to do is probably just reskin Anthem while improving on its technical flaws.
This probably was just shaping up to be another Shadow of Mordor game but with Black Panther, but they just spent so much time on this Nemesis system follow up and being in the "ideation phase" according to the article that it sounded like very little of the proper game was worked upon. It's perfectly understandable that EA got fed up after 4 years of presumably seeing nothing but blocky test map builds.

Didn't CDProject specifically axe their proprietary engine for their next games because it was too hard for their devs to learn to work on compared to Unreal?

So what is it that these 500-10000 dev teams are even doing when it takes them a FULL DECADE AND HALF BILLION DOLLARS+ on average to make a "AAA" game?

It wouldn't be surprising if they just moved to Unreal Engine just so outsourcing their future games would be an easier process. The problems will show up later in different ways desu, because now their old team has to learn a new engine and eventually they'll hit different kinds of limitations, because Unreal Engine is terrible when used as a "one size fits all" piece of tech.

Cyberpunk....
Remember....

2012 to 2020 anons.

3 nigs on the front

It's dead before it even knows it