Name a JAPANESE game with a better story

Name a JAPANESE game with a better story.

Easy.

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Not better but FF8 and Nier:Automata are on the same level

Can't because japs can't write. Their literary tradition is shit like "and then this sad lady killed herself and became a fox ghost and if you go on the mountain she will attack you"

I won't say they're strictly better but Fromsoft has great environmental storytelling in their games

Mad Rat Dead

plot holes: the game

Final Fantasy Tactics

Chrono Cross.

This, and I'd say that a lot of Japanese visual novels have better writing than E33.

True up to DS3

Black Souls 2

Final Fantasy Tactics

Super Mario RPG

Majority of Final Fantasy games
The Metal Gear series
Castlevania series

I think ffx is close if not on oar
Also kingdom hearts but maybe that's just me

great game

Never even heard of this shit before

chrono trigger

any rape VN

Anything by Fumito Ueda

rapelay

Monster Girl Quest

Majority of Final Fantasy games

The Metal Gear series

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Silent Hill 2

It’s literally Final Fantasy X but French

There aren't any.

Not even a game

Name a Japanese game with worse gameplay.

The characters are great, the plot itself kinda leaves something to be desired, especially by the last act.

name a Japanese game

Visual novels aren't games. Also Fate Stay Night and Fata Morgana mogs Stein's Gate.

Per…

Xenogears
Silent Hill 2

Most JRPGs except SMRPG and Shadow Hearts

Warioware

S;G was horrible.

Warioware has no story, what the fuck.

filtered

Ico

uminegro

They really ripped off metaphor

Expedition 33 is unironically a game that requires a shockingly high IQ to fully understand thematically like a lot of the greatest literature. Most of the criticism is because it was advertised towards JRPG fans and they are irredeemably stupid people.

xenogears

This. E33 is literally just a shittier Star Ocean 3

Girls like this sort of thing. Or so I hear.

Final Fantasy VII, VIII, IX, X, Lost Odyssey, DDS 1-2, SMT I-II-IV, Xenogears, Xenosaga, Chrono Trigger, Chrono Cross, Dragon Quest III, V, VIII, XI, Persona 3, 4, 5, Suikoden II, V, The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky, Cold Steel, Reverie, Tales of Berseria, Symphonia, Vesperia, Valkyrie Profile, The Last Story, Ni no Kuni, Shadow Hearts, Blue Dragon, Disgaea, Fire Emblem Awakening, Fire Emblem Three Houses, Bravely Default, Octopath Traveler, Live A Live....to name a few

It's not even close except for the MCs hair colour changing to white.

Doesn't exist. There isn't a better story in all of japanese literature either

FF7 is more entertaining, has more memorable characters, and I actual give a shit about them. You can go on all day about E33 metaphors, exposition, whatever I had a more fun adventure experiencing FF7, which is what games should be about

FF8

fuck no

Automata

If you'd said replicant I'd respect your opinion even if I disagree. Automata just ain't as good.

Boku no Pico

I think ffx is close if not on oar

ffx is on another league

Gestalt >>> Replicant

It's jacky chan here you Anon Babbleutist

There isn't a game with a better story IMO

Ladies, ladies, they're both mediocre....

almost 40 swings

all misses

You tried anon all you did was out yourself as a tasteless weeb though

I feel like the Japanese language is limiting. Always comes off as autistic when translated literally.

The only acceptable answer. Another game soaked in tragedy and symbolism with a fantastic soundtrack.

SMT, persona, Growlanser, Final fantasy, silent hill, lost odyssey, pandoras tower, astral chain, the last story, metaphor, mario, legend of zelda, donkey kong, luigi's mansion

Pushing it there's definitely some manga that tell a better story. Maybe a few LNs and anime but definitely no games.

Not him but I disagree. There's nothing out there like Umineko but Steins;Gate is just another subpar time travel flick.

There's nothing out there like Umineko

But the execution is dogshit.

13 Sentinels

Fire Emblem Three Houses

LOL

Octopath traveler

LMAO

Trails in the Sky, Cold Steel

KEK

Dragon Quest III, V, VIII, XI,

KILL YOURSELF

Japanese can't write for shit, no wonder Japan have no literature or culture whatsoever, only tranime for mentally stunted manchildren.

Jacky Chan is when you have to make a list you tourist.

bait. E33 is only good enough to be compared to kid jrpg games thats why no one actually compares the story to other works of real literature because they know it cant hang with the big boys. If you want to dispute this then by all means share evidence

Gun to your head name 5 good things about Replicant that aren't in Automata

Any game that doesn't go

it was all a dream

Based, best visual novel.

Yea I'm a fan of Fujimoto, Asano Inio, and Oshimi I think they all have at least 1 work that's better. Fire Punch, DDDDD/ punpun pretty much any major work from Oshimi from Drifting net cafe till modern day the whole run is insanely good.

I remember when bait was believable. All of us here know that Expedition 33 gave us a mature, thoughtful, and emotional experience. Otherwise we wouldn't still be discussing it with multiple daily threads.

dude everyone is miserable and there's family drama that mean it's deep and thoughtful

Fuck off.

If your standard of quality is "fancy" writing - meaning cramming as many rare synonyms in as possible - Japanese can be ten times denser than your favorite "high level" English lit. If the writer is so inclined.

Nigger hands typed this

troonteen sentinels

lmao

Final Fantasy X

Your "great story" isn't as original or great as you think it is Pierre.

original

Originality doesn't matter in a story.

You wouldn't know a good story if it brought your dad back home

Every Yakuza game

Umineko is just And then there were none with a Tsukhime's Kohaku rip off.

easy

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I'm yet to see one deep game, film or book made by a japanese.
Every single one is a shallow and childish philosophical misinterpretation of a western work, or some high school drama with an evil god.

E33 shills like this fartsy shit

what? what does that have to do with what you replied to

gay is no longer high status enough, make them trans

This game came out more than half a decade ago by the way, I'm sure trannylators have gotten worse.

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A few Final Fantasy games

How many Japanese stories have you consumed besides anime and video games

deep

I'm sure you don't know, or care, what this means. Name a "deep" Western work, this should be good.

STAR
OCEAN
3

midwit writing

japs didnt even do long form stories until the west introduced the concept to them

tell some bitch to eat more meat in the past

her trans son will be a girl in the future

akihabara will not have anime shops in the future but everything else, no matter how minuscule will remain the same

what a stupid story

Not him but unironically The Last of Us Part 1

I'm sure there are loads of pretentious books the japs wrote, anon. I'm just playing vidya and pure wuv VNs instead. 's better.

I'm sorry you played a gimped localization

Xenogears.

I loved Clair Obscur though.

Sounds like you missed early 2000 era where there were a lot of philosophical anime like Texhnolyze, Satoshi Kon anime, Yoshitoshi Abe anime. God even I prefer 2010 Japanese entertainment than western slop.
Not sure if that's true when this exists.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tale_of_Genji

BASED

Attack on Titan is deeper than E33

you missed the poor man neuromancer

What next, Lain?

Got it in one try, good job.

S;G doesn't have half of the pacing issues that Uminegro does.

The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky, Cold Steel, Reverie

lmao

Attack on Titan was only good until the basement reveal.

Based Muramasa chad

Rapeslop

No I didn't like Lain. What you consider deep ultimately depends on how relatable it is to you, so in the end, you describing it deep means you just like it under the guise of pseudo-intellectual pretentious fart-huffing.

Rapekino

S;G mogs it

midwit writing

So like every Japanese game.

LOL

literally any persona past 2

CHAOS

BASED BASED BASED

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Xeno series
All of them have better stories

Tatsuya Izumi's Witch series
13 Sentinels was a more interesting roller coaster ride, but E33 has better character writing

Weird choice for a thread like this, but I'll admit I was surprised to find myself emotionally invested in a 5 hour platformer about a rat.

that would be rance thoughteverbeit

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The reason expedition 33 is considered midwit writing is it is very easy to see who to side with and that's coming from someone who never played or watched anyone playing that game. It pales in comparison to what Final Fantasy x tried to tell.

this is a joke right?

Are you Welsh or something?

No? There are people in the thread mentioning fucking Persona and Nintendie games and you're going to complain about SG?

That's because writing usually has a lot of figurative language, prose and quirks that don't translate into other languages. It's why Dostoevsky sounds so dry and insufferable outside of Russia.

Precure has better stories and characters than e33. They mad e decent first attempt but fell way short in terms of quality and merit

SPM, p3 and p5r have been stories than Shits;Gay.

FF7 and FF9

game makes pp hard

therefore story good

you're brown

generic story is good because le sad girl is crying because her nii nii died

lol lmao

Xenoblade characters gives you a boner

are you a gay 12 year old?

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Well that's just your opinion, and it's not a good one either.

A lot of manga/anime have better stories period. The characters in clair obscur are too stiff to be acceptable outside of a videogame

rape

good

i i i i i i love precure

Realize my post is actually a fact and a lot of things make more sense, like why everybody is laughing at your taste itt

There are just as many people agreeing that SG is a great story, and I'm not going to take the opinion of a half dozen retarded contrarians to heart because no matter what you think you're in the far minority.

should I be insulted that someone told me I was similar to the titular character of The Idiot? Haven't read it.

Anime shit

Mentally retarded heroine

le so wacky characters

Juvenile presentation

A fucking visual novel

NTA but literally nothing is worse than P5, I should know because I played it like 7 times between the original and Royale. It's probably the worst JRPG someone can play

they are saying you are a nice guy who is easily taken advantage of. The protagonist isn't actually an idiot but everyone thinks he is due to his kind nature.

Thread should've ended here.

Japs couldn't write to save their lives

Where is the cringey forced romance between party members?

Where is my self insert teen protagonist with a huge harem??

Why is the villain not an evil God??

Why aren’t the characters all edgy teenagers / young adults?

Where are the outrageous hairstyles and fashion choices?

Where is the beach episode?

Why aren’t the villains long haired prettyboys??

Where is the cute adorable funny animal mascot??

Where are the comical relief scenes?

SHIT GAME DESU!!!

jap culture starts to make perfect sense when you realize they don't have childhoods and being an adult there is soul crushingly bad. They're abused so hard by society they revert to the state of a child and they are stuck fantasizing about what will high school be like over and over again. It's honestly very pathetic. Bigly so

But enough about lowbrow Clair obscur

Final Fantasy VI easily. I mean hell ANY JRPG where the focus is character driven and not narrative driven is going to beat out this kind of trash.
Act 1 is amazing because the plot is pushed forwards by the characters and not the overall narrative itself. This is why games such as FFVI and FFVII succeed and trash like FFVIII and FFIX fail in terms of memorable stories. The former is character driven, the latter is narrative driven.
Expedition 33 has a stellar opening act as the characters are given life, purpose, and even growth here and there (other than Sciel) and then act 2 comes along and NOTHING matters any more. There is no character growth or any motivation to continue on other than what the narrative says to continue on about and that makes for a bland experience that is not engaging in the least.
I thought I enjoyed Expedition 33. Turns out I was just looking for a payoff after act 1 and never got it.

Isn’t clair 33 literally just one oldcel constantly surrounded by hot young babes

Worse than any of the Xenosaga games? I find that hard to believe.

FF6, literally perfect

...didn't Expedition 33 have all of those that you listed off?

fpbp

ran out of steam after 1st act

Many such cases. Sad!

so you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about? classic Anon Babble

You cannot even make this joke you retarded cumbrain anime shit eater.

All of them

Final Fantasy Tactics Advance or Tsukihime
You wish, fag

THIS

Literally who?

cringe JRPG tropes and ‘dynamic’ persona poses except it’s ugly frogs doing it this time rather than moeblobs

Maelle

Le wacky french people with oversized heads

Juvenile grimdark aesthetic with no originality

Words words words

better? no idea
but FFX hits close.

midwit writing is the same as leftist memes, a bunch of unnecessary crap to describe a point that can be expressed in one or two words. Jrpg's are way too fucking simple and are usually brainlet writing.

Where is the cringey forced romance between party members?

Western games are always even worse at this

Where is my self insert teen protagonist with a huge harem??

Even most VNs punish you for trying this

Why is the villain not an evil God??

God is a bit subjective. It is usually a monster or alien with a lot of influence or destructive capabilities. The only example I can think of right now of a Japanese game that actually does this trope straight is Shin Megami Tensei and even then it is actually fake god pretending to be the real one.

Why aren’t the characters all edgy teenagers / young adults?

Most games in general have you play as edgy teenagers or young adults. Most people don't want to play as a decrepit old man.

Where are the outrageous hairstyles and fashion choices?

ironically most Japanese games other than dragon quest, final fantasy and their derivatives have characters with mundane haircuts.

Where is the beach episode?

Name 10 games

Why aren’t the villains long haired prettyboys??

Name 10 games

Where is the cute adorable funny animal mascot??

So like two persona games. Three if you count Teddy who is a literal mascot of a bear

Where are the comical relief scenes?

the only valid point here

You are in a thread where the OP had clearly never seen any JP stuff and judge their entire works based on modern isekai slop. And you are no fucking better. Sometimes works can be judged as slop without even playing it like Last of Us, which all angloids used to pin as masterful storytelling. How things change.

the only valid point here

It's not even a valid point because Clair Obscure does this too.

Okay so what are we doing now?

I'm going to kill the paintress

Alright I'm out

There will be fighting

You sonofabitch I'm in

is old lumiere supposed to be that short? i got to renoir in under 2 hours.

Clair Obscur has

unnecessary romance between party members

teen protagonist

villain turns out to be god of the painting

beach outfits and volleyball minigame

monoco and Esquire are mascots

feet coomer bait

comic relief scenes

they even have the part where one of the main characters gets a hole in his chest but has to give one last monologue

your move dumbass

Get off your high horse the writing reads like melodrama Netflix show for 40yo women to cry to, there's tens of thousands of games with a better story

bullshit

retard: the post

reddit;gaters BTFO

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I mean two of them are 33 and the other one is 32 but looks 16 so uh

Name a WESTERN game with a better story.

Planescape Torment

Courage the Cowardly Dog

They're all 32. 33 is the current age of obliteration. It's why Sophie blew up when the paintress changed the number from 34 to 33.

Guess which VN is still more loved and acclaimed outside of contrarian congregations like this one?

Pseud

For one, they plagiarized the idea of going in and out of paintings directly from Super Mario 64

Based retard

Xeno gears, saga, blade, any game really.
This is the most overrated game of the decade.

Probably the one you're insecurely seething at?

They also plagiarized The Lord of the Rings for having a plot

I can't tell if these threads are falseflags or if this game's fanbase is genuinely this insufferable.

FPBP, also mogs every JRPGslop posted in this thread so far.

Terraligma

its a little bit of both desu

still the best ff

FPBP

Yes I can because this French team didn’t even measure up to lowest floor of action shounen anime. It’s so fucking middling and generic it’s laughable

Nier

Kaine

Yonah

Shadowlord

a genuinely gut-wrenching main conflict

Black Souls

faggot: the homosexual

Silent Hill 2

They didn’t even measure up to western capeshit which as a whole is lesser then the entire Japanese anime and manga industry

FFX is overrated shit. E33 writing legit makes FFX look like amateur hour

You don't demonstrate what is exactly better about it. Your response is just a cop-out because the game is densely written, not many people played it. The only people that suck off to that game is pretentious essay youtubers, pretty much the same kind that tries to create lore out of thin air in dark souls. It's like suggesting Little big adventure because not many people knows about the game. Absolutely pathetic.

I kneel.

game

posts an interactive comic book

Write a story for us, bro!

prove it

You've never heard your mother say she should have gotten an abortion before, but it's true.

This is the ugliest """"art"""" i've seen in my life.

crying about anime and manga to your betters in any board on an otaku site

Brave but also ass backwards and rerarded

It still has one of the best stories in a game period whether you consider it to be a true video game or not.

Fate stay night

Lmao no. The only good story out of that shit was the heaven's feel route, and even that had problems.

UBW

Antagonist's entire motivation is wanting to kill his prior self before becoming a hero, since the reality of it caused him to become disillusioned and he wants out

There is literally no answer to this, the dilemma is solved by the protagonist saying "I'm just gonna do it anyways rahh" and the antagonist going "yeah okay I change my mind lol"

Fate

just kinda sucks, saber is a bad character, could have worked if arthur was still a man and the actual ideal hero that shirou looked up to but realized the flaws but that would be harder to sell to otakus who want to dick down the hot foreign blonde girl who was king and had a biological child but was also a virgin and looked like a 13 year old

said king also gets lectured frequently by a japanese kid who had never fought in his life and knew her for a less than a week, but felt like he had a position to criticize her (the narrative treats him as right by the way, she also refuses to wear underwear that he doesn't pick out for her)

Heaven's feel is the only one that doesn't offer some bs solution to it's problem and has real consequences for choices the characters make, other than that HF is overrated

"MC" is murdered in the first few hours

depressed ikemen with a cute imouto replaces him as the new MC and becomes the center of everything

ending is a 1v1 against his imouto's selfish wishes

Not only Muramasa mog Reddit;Gate slop, it was also an inspiration for E33 kino.

FS/N is overrated*
Meant to say that it's telling how HF is the least favourite among fans last I saw

hey bro you should tell steam to take it off their store because its not a game! they had no idea they must look like fools to you haha

E33 is really just baby’s first jrpg inspired knock off but it’s good because

muh photorealism

muh generic low talent cow actor

Your """"face"""" is the ugliest thing I've seen in my life.

yeah and I am sure that Western RPGs don't have any of these tropes right?....right?

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FF7

Literally all exist in e33 and done to a much more egregious level. Westoids are so fucking stupid holy shit

E33 is literally a chuuni ikemen self-insert going on adventures with his harem, cute imouto, his dog, and a giant toy plush

Wow, totally not like Japanese games.

How come magic that can create entire worlds exists but they can't even reduce Alicia's ugly ass burns?

Here’s your Japanese Maelle bro, I
Oh but in a much better piece of media

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kek, this.

SHIToko is NOTHING like Maelle, retard

Legacy of Kain

tasukette NIII NII

She’s literally a worse and lesser Satoko

FFX has a more interesting story, setting and themes. The world of C33 is so bland compared to FFX, it’s akin to those soulslikes that fail to understand why souls aesthetic is good. Compare this to the beautiful lush world of Spira. Sin is also vastly superior to the Paintress in the way characters interact with/rationalise it, the story is an epic dynamic adventure too compared to C33 boring ass

FUCK PAINTINGS

She never relied on her brother, except during the fire. If anything, Verso is the one kneeling to her and getting his ass saved. Also, their personalities aren't alike, SHIToko is annoying as fuck.
Rika has a little more in common, and even then, it's a stretch

This is the first correct answer in the thread.

Persona 3

If anything, Verso is the one kneeling to her and getting his ass saved.

Verso saved her from their hilariously fatal landing on the beach.
He also saved her when painted Renoir was going to attack her again after his failed gommage didn't send her back.
You'd know all of this if you played the game.

Steins;Gate was extremely retarded, it doesn't mog anything.

Except she did not cry or scream. He came out of nowhere, and she didn’t even know he was her brother.

fpbp

None of that has any bearing on Verso being the one saving her as opposed to her doing the saving.

Yakuza is way too campy for me to handle.

This is the best written piece of fiction in Western media, and honestly, it's better than some Japanese games too. But Rance X is still Rance X.

asks for game

gets a VN

Grim. I prefer real novels, but I don't hate VNs. I've read a few, as well as played a bunch of pseudo-VNs like Ace Attorney and Danganronpa. However, they aren't games. At best, you might be presented with a dialogue choice after 30 minutes of reading. That's not gameplay.

Phantasy Star IV
Final Fantasy VI, VII, VIII, IX and X
Lost Odyssey
Metal Gear Solid (all of them)
Silent Hill
Suikoden II
They're all better games too.

FFX world is not that great and the cast looks like circus clowns. We judge people by their appearance, and not a single character in X has a good design or an appealing personality. They just try too hard to look cool and fail miserably, especially compared to other JRPGs and E33, where the characters are naturally cool and appealing. It’s a slog to play that game when you don’t care about anyone.

where the characters are naturally cool and appealing

This is your brain growing on uniformed capeshit and smoothing out its wrinkles

It’s a slog to play that game when you don’t care about anyone.

I agree, it's why I stopped playing E33 in Act 2.

plot holes the digital book with images

metal gear

silent hill

westoid pandering shit made by japanese, it's like the inverse of E33

it's like the inverse of E33

Correct, because they're good games. Meanwhile E33 is a pint of piss poured down the throats of a thirsty audience who have never known a truly good game release in their lifetime. Have never read a real book or watched a non-hollywood movie. It's a shiny for troglodytes.

Tidus is the one who looks like a quintessential capeshit hero with his shitty design and personality, he’s even literally a cuck.

thinks Shounen is capeshit

thinks a single forced kiss is cuckoldry

I hope you fall in love with a rape victim and don't find out until you're at a point it will devastate you

Japanese

good storytelling

pint of piss poured down the throats of a thirsty audience who have never known a truly good game release in their lifetime. Have never read a real book or watched a non-hollywood movie. It's a shiny for troglodytes.

but enough about silent hill

King

Expedition 33 was blatantly a WEG at some point

not even top 10 visual novel in Japan

all-ages

But the story and gameplay are both copypasted from a Japanese game

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all of them.
also

hurr durr muh story

i hate secondaries so fucking much it's unreal

T R V K E

Better story than what?

Killer7

chrono trigger
earthbound
super mario rpg
final fantasy 7

all of them

muh story

Are you having a seizure?

Why is Sciel so thirsty for Verso?

Underrated pick

Steins;Gate is shit.

Based

he characters are given life, purpose, and even growth here and there (other than Sciel) and then act 2 comes along and NOTHING matters any more

What they did with Sciel was just sad. They had to shove her into the Visage cutscene just for her character to have something, anything to do. Her character also has a possible purpose in Alicia's ending since Sciel supposedly sees the truth of things and her facial expression in that ending is not happy at all. But other than that she is really, "Character that has no reason to exist." Same thing happens with Lune in Act 2, as she effectively ceases to have a purpose after Gustave's death except for the Siren fight, where just like Sciel with Visage, she just feels shoved in so she has something to do.

Honestly, the game would have been better served if Act 2 just killed off Sciel and Lune with Gustave and left the player reeling and confused with not only where things are going now, but also let more tension build for the player in Maelle's and Verso's growing relationship.

Lune staring at Verso in the good ending was all she needed to do. If that was the entire point of her character, I'd say it was a well written character.

earthbound

meme series

True for Elden Ring too.

She's so hot

Abyss and Berseria too, fun games

These are all dogshit.

Nobody has ever said what WEG stands for.

MC is so fucking cringe and awful to witness in motion that I physically cannot watch this anime OR play this game

There's something about Japanese culture just being completely incapable of subtlety, but then claiming to be all about what's not being said, that drives me fucking bananas. It's like HMMMMMMMMMMMM, I wonder what's NOT being said about your giant robot design that has a huge throbbing erection for no goddamn reason? I wonder what's NOT being said about the obsession with highschool melodrama and sparkly idols? I'm starting to think that Japan as a culture suffers from a serious lack of maturity, these days. It wasn't always like this, but these days everything seems to be all dancing monkeys and golden poop.

Nobody cares about your boomer games old man.

maturity

nichijou is objectively more mature than anything in this game. No amount of screeching and impotent whining from 18-27 year old overgrown children trying to punch up will change how embarrassing generic e33 is

I know that your post is just a low effort and obvious bait, but I will respond anyway.

Okabe acts like an idiot because he's a "chunni" and suffers from "chuunibyou" syndrome aka the "middle school second-year syndrome". He acts juvenile in order to hide his insecurities, fears, low self-esteem, and escape reality. That kind of pathetic childish behavior ends up making him end up in a lot of awful shit and makes him suffer a lot. Throughout the game he learns and grows out of that phase and becomes a mature young man. That's his arc

time travel

So fuck sick of this shit I don’t know how people keep consuming the same one trick pony.

That story is good because of the characters genius.

all the characters are rip-offs of better works, even the personality is the same

Metaphor is dogshit. 33 is what Metaphor wished it could’ve been.

I remember it ending fairly strong but that's just me

You are a dumbass.

Complete nonstory

Japanese

None. The Nips can't write for shit.

I'm 18 and this is friggen deep: The Game

Xenogears

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Giga-Chad Verso

Why?

Why can't E33 marketers shill their game without resorting to stoking flames, ragebait, or making comparisons?
I think Japs have their heads up their asses at times especially when it comes to their own history/literature/games, but, Jesus, at least talk about your own game if you're going to make a thread about it

Slept with Sciel and Lune despite intending to kill them.
Basically rape.

Japanese games fall into either 1 of 2 categories with story:
1) It doesn't matter and is only background for wacky shit to happen.
2) It is moody melodrama that has zero logic and is derived purely on feels and rule-of-cool or immature angst.

There are almost no exceptions. A lot of "people" tend to think the latter makes for good story, because they were raised on Marvel movies and Dragon Ball Z and have no understanding of what actually makes a good story.

Chrono Trigger maybe

Those were the only two on his list I agreed with.

utawarerumono
trails in the sky trilogy
Demons Roots
Tokyo Necro
still a good game, though

E33 was a fun game. There I said it.

Devil may cry 3 has the most kino story in gaming, also metal gear

any xenoblade

I only watched the anime and every single character in this piece of shit is just a cardboard cutout with zero interesting qualities or personality. I firmly believe that anyone who believes steinsgate to be a masterpiece is trolling me specifically and that NO ONE actually believes it

Planetscape Torment

Slept with Sciel and Lune despite intending to kill them.

When does he kill them?

End of Act 2

The due in the pic is Verso though, not Renoir.

Don't mind me, I'm just going to the cord on your mothers life support, I'm not killing her, that's just her illness.

Truth Nuke.

YOU ARROGANT BITCH! WANNA PLAY GOD? I WON'T LET YOU! I'LL RIP THAT POWER FROM YOUR HANDS AND MAKE IT MY OWN!

Yes. You must be some special kind of stupid if you think she isn't dying from her illness just because you yanked her life support. The autopsy report will list her cause of death is whatever illness put her on the machine in the first place, not "retard pulled a plug".

katamari damacy

Weebsona 3 is on on the same level.. pretty sure they were inspired by it too.

painted Verso having any say in Renoir's actions

Renoir is literally the only person in the story that treats Verso as an other. He tells Verso "accept the Dessendre family's apologies" rather than "accept our family's apologies".

What's your point? Renoir is clearly sorry to the poor bastard about this whole situation, if he wasn't he could have deleted him without the apology or illusion of giving P.Verso a choice before Maelle intervenes

not a game, but attack on titan. expedition 33 feels like rip-off, even soundtrack

Park Toucher Fantasy ver. MAKO. It's about a pedophile (You) publicly molesting and grooming a little girl named Mako at a public park.

Isayama could never pull off something like E33

Acting=/=Story
You can make the most boring story with no character variety of personality and it's the Actor's job to not fuck up the Writer's vision with common mistakes.

First Tales game?

if he wasn't he could have deleted him without the apology

He can't. He's not strong enough to undo Aline's creations on his own. Why do you think he (as the curator) had Alicia go and rub Painted Renoir's tit to get rid of him?

aot is literally a rip off of muvluv alternative

never forget

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Xenogears, Suikoden 2, Star Ocean 2, FF10, Nier, Nier Automata, Star Ocean 3, Umineko,

the only correct answer in this thread

He was literally in the process of deleting him until Alicia pulled him back together
youtu.be/nQ-cf7RE6vE?t=535

He's undoing the immortality buff, or trying to. Why the fuck do you think Verso's "gommage" is slow as fuck compared to literally everyone else that died before?

people jerking off to E33 when it has the same twist as SO3 and people whined and bitched about SO3's twist

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the way the anime injects all the bad ends into the main story fucking sucks.

You can’t
They are all about killing god to subvert le expectations

"Shinzuo Sasageyo" is essentially "for those who come after" and both were introspections about humanity's will to endure harsh and impossible odds only to shit the bed and go full meta about everyone is ebil in the ending.

That said, where AoT was 3/4 human struggle with massive carnage of soldiers charging to their deaths for the greater good. E33 has cunny drama

the worst Kuwabata or Mishima book runs circles around the best vidya story

LOOOOOOOOL

I feel so bad for Yukari

Metal Gear Solid 2 was good

muh cutscenes

Actual game is trash

Fippy bippy

S;G fans constantly begging for recognition in every thread 10 years later

nicovideo.jp/watch/sm20697398
E33 has yet to pull off a shitpost like vidrelated.
Also, fuck youtube for doing its damndest to get rid of this shit with frivolous copyright claims.

well regarded work still beloved after 15 years

Where's the problem?

Visual Novels are not videogames

Either way the best ones have better stories than any video games ever could have.

LOL no

child abuse: the game

S;G did a time travel story right which is hard to do. PT is not better.

Sex with Kurisu

S;G

Not a videogame
Get that off topic shit out of here

It's both Anon Babble and video games, cope.

Nobody played this game.