Is the American voice acting industry beyond saving? All the big games are now hiring English voice actors, they bring less drama, and they're 10x better than Troy Baker and Laura Bailey.
Is the American voice acting industry beyond saving? All the big games are now hiring English voice actors...
This guy look like an Asian chud
Good, you are mad so I am happy. Please post about this more.
asians get diabetes like 2 lower bmi than any other race, they usually get pre-diabetes when everyone else would just think they have a normal body type. this guy 500% has diabetes
It should be a legal requirement to include a Laura Bailey nipple sucking simulator for every game she va's
VAs refuse to do the thing they're paid to do
New VAs willing to work for less to get big roles because fuck you
Letting e-celebs be VAs was a big mistake, e-celebs are used to doing shit their way whenever they want.
why is his head like that
Considering he's one of the reasons white people can't voice asian or black characters in cartoons or games anymore, you're not far off.
what's the point of striking a pose and expression like this when you look like you're having an allergic reaction? op pic reminds me of that webm of dsp turning around like a cool guy, but does it so awkwardly he looks like he shit his pants.
Who gives a shit?
Does the Japanese voice acting scene have to put up with this shit? They hold VAs in high regard and to my knowledge don’t have fags constantly crying on social media about how they’re being treated poorly.
The problem with American VA industry is literally SAG-AFTRA, the Union. They're essentially holding the VAs affiliated with them hostage and a lot of the big title work is strictly union work. Problem is that SAG-AFTRA shits themselves and throws a tantrum if every single one of their demands aren't met. The "Best, Last Offer" met the overwhelming majority of SAG-AFTRA's demands during this strike they called and it still isn't enough for them. SAG needs to go, either replaced with another Union or the Union leadership and reps need to be replaced.
Well, no. Japan is a right-wing nation they judge people by their skills. The most skilled person gets the job. America on the other hand is a leftist nation. The person that's "oppressed"(brown, gay, tranny, crippled, retarded, etc) the most and cries the loudest gets the job. So you end up with retarded faggots like that retarded gook in the OP getting ahead in the VA industry.
Marx would say that the majority of Hollywood is ill suited to undertake the revolution but voice actors will be the vanguard of proletariat revolutionary activity. They, and they alone, know the pain of having their labor stolen from them and exploited by the bourgeois.
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any retard can give a homeless guy $5 to say a few words into a microphone.
modern voice actors are ass cuz they have no range and act like primadonnas
All English dubs should cast British/Irish voice actors and actresses. There’s no reason to listen the cheap, knock-off American accent when you can listen to the real deal.
Some asians have the round/flat face gene.
Women can hide it with face putty, hair and clever make-up.
Men cant really do shit about it.
Watch out you heckin chud we'll get our mafia rac- I mean uh...union that totally cares about is members to say mean things about you!
Best vidya voice actor right now?
There’s face surgery that can make Asians have less flatter faces, if they want to.
American voice acting? No, most if not all aspire only for anime tier voice acting or dry as fuck.
Western voice acting? Just hire more theater people, and not like "theater" as in musicals and shit, I mean the stuff that high class people like. 9/10 times getting a theater actor means 10/10 performance even if they despise the fact they are doing voice acting for a medium they consider childish.
YOO
He was in E33 too?
Damn I guess he really might save final fantasy after all, in one way or another.
he's MOGGED by cody christian's cloud
i can't be hired for white roles so here's me eating 12 kinds of Fruit by the Foot since 2 minute skits don't pay well
PAY YOUR VOICE ACTORS WHAT THEY'RE WORTH!
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it's funny that in games with options to toggle japanese and english voices the japanese VAs are often proudly presented and their names are attached to the characters they voiced while you never see this for the english counterpart
theater trained actors who respect the craft
vs
vocal-fry cali clique who twitter politics their way into roles and have 0 range or ability to emote
Please, kill all Californians forever.
the ff7 remake JP VAs only got their roles due to precedent
the EN VAs had to audition for the roles
which of these do you think is going to yield a better performance
because this is the current climate of japanese voie acting
if you voice a character at any point in time no matter how much your talent deteriorates the role is guaranteed
Seiyuu are held to a MUCH higher standard. IIRC, women are expected to have at least some capacity for singing.
That alone filters out most of the undesirables.
If people actually put effort into voice acting and their roles and taking it seriously, then yea, you'll get good results.
This is not the case for 99.99% of english voice acting.
It's a major miracle remake's VA cast is good, even in the same series (technically) the most recent ff14 thing has the most dogshit voice acting you've ever seen and they're all lunatics to boot
IIRC, women are expected to have at least some capacity for singing.
EN VAs are also trained in singing
you will die obese
you will never attract a woman
you will always be ken-sama
Go record more mental breakdown tiktoks in your bathroom, worthless commiefornian.
if you honestly don't think recasting for FF7 remake was justified you're delusional
Its the different culture in Europe in general. VAs in Europe are not dedicated VAs but are often working in theater and other acting jobs instead. VA is more of a nice sidegig for them. Pic related has never VA'd before this first role in Elden Ring.
Anon did you read any of my post?
At all?
Remake had good voice EN voice acting, this is not the norm.
The women are also expected to sleep with the right people when their manager tells them to as well, real tough stuff out there
Anon did you read any of my post?
At all?
Remake had good voice EN voice acting, this is not the norm.
you're arguing the japanese voice acting industry is better at fostering competing talent
i provided a direct example against this premise
yes I read it.
you've yet to successfully defend the practice
EN VAs are also trained in singing
Then why do they never sing anymore
Re:Zero season 3 english dub didn't even fucking try, they just left entire japanese singing scenes in untouched.
He works out at the library
and it's well known that doesn't happen in the western entertainment industry
AI Voice Acting = The return of expanded and well thought out narratives.
Re:Zero season 3 english dub didn't even fucking try, they just left entire japanese singing scenes in untouched.
japanese dubs of english songs dont dub the singing either
a song is not as dubbable as natural dialogue
Japanese voice acting is normally treated like an actual profession and not some side joke
This, in general, leads to higher quality VAs on average but does lead to legacy/nepotism problems at times
Western VAs are a complete joke in almost all western works, with the rare success story because they actually did their job for once
What argument are you making here anon?
You know nothing about JP voice work and are just an EOP retard
you will always be ken-sama
Who wants to tell him?
I dont care. Bring back "who do we have in the office thats not busy" voice acting. Let these unsufferable faggots get real jobs.
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this post does nothing to respond to the point being made so I won't grant it a (You)
Hopefully other companies follow suit and actually hire non babies.
Nier Automata had two different singers since Weight of the World in Japanese and English.
this is a pretty fucking bold argument considering nier invented a fictional language for emi evans to sing in
Emi Evans didn’t sing the English version of Weight of the World
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my reality is based on greentextx and Anon Babble
Japan is nepotism central, the entertainment industry is the only one that's somewhat sparred. Outside of it, it is not just normal to see the hack nephew of your manager get his spot, it's expected.
t. experienced the hellscape that is labour in Japan
he doesn't remember all the dogshit english dub singing in 90s anime
PAY VOICE ACTORS. MARX'S LABOR THEORY OF VALUE!
What did he mean by this?
Ah yes, the Conker's Bad Fur Day method of voice acting.
Who did the French version?
its been 30 years since the 90s
Anyone else playing Nightreign get really thrown off when Ironeye started speaking with an American accent? That might be the first time from have used an American VA in a souls game (unless you count Sekiro and its en dub I guess).
I remember pretty kino singing from 90s anime OP dubs, but then again the VAs in my cunt aren't entitled lazy fucking shits.
Can't fix the eyed. But good improvement
Nah, they're basically an industry in japan not some "acting" work, they have school specifically for becoming VA, every VA at least have to be able to sing, able to dance is a plus
America on the other hand is a leftist nation
Amerifats are all just self-centered pieces of shit. I mean look at their fucking president
Not really but japs like continuation though, and changing it every game will likely result in fan outrage
I mean look at their fucking president
nooo why wont u just let the rest of the world fuck u up the ass
What is this phenotype called?
anon pls
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translating is even harder when it's a song, i don't think a translated song has ever worked well especially from jp. it's not surprising that they just leave that in the original language.
yeah only israel is allowed to do that amirite fellow goyim
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Why is Anon Babble obessed with this dude? What has he even voiced?
NIGGA THATS NUTS
I think his few voices are good, but he's an insufferable person
why does his face have so much fat in spite of his BMI
I think there's also a measure of where the VAs are coming from background wise. American VAs were increasingly being drawn from the anime community with all the inherent autism same internet purity tests that comes with.
He has a very funny face and is a big ol hypocrite. Tailor made target for mockery
how does she keep winning? she doesnt virtue signal on social media and keeps landing roles
fat sack of shit
i’m not sure
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She kind of sounds like Emi Evans though
Double Eyelid surgery exists, it surgically creates a supraorbital sulcus, there’s also epicanthic fold surgery and a surgery to raise the nose bridge.
You don't have to be an american VA to be absolutely off your rocker
damn she's a qtpatootie, not bad for mid 30's, most roasties wall by then
which of these do you think is going to yield a better performance
In this case the roles and lines are tailored around the talent sets of the JP VAs while the EN VAs are just the best fit available off the shelf. You argument is like saying Clint Eastwood in the Good the Bad and the Ugly was a bad fit and he was only there because he was also in A Fistful of Dollars
So why shouldn’t we pay voice actors what they’re worth?
Huh, it doesn't sound as bad when you phrase it like that. In fact pay them as much as game developers are worth.
You argument is like saying Clint Eastwood
no it isn't and i'm not sure what psychotic head canon you must have to have interpreted it as such
you are literally arguing about the case for hiring actors for a role because they have performed well in that role previously. the difference between a voice actor and having clint eastwoods leathery face in front of a camera is incidental.
insulation against the harsh ice cold wind that permeates the mongolian winters. thats also why asian faces are so flat. an extruding nose would freeze off in winter.
you are literally arguing about the case for hiring actors for a role because they have performed well in that role previously
no, i'm arguing against them getting the same role they've had for 20 years purely out of seniority
clint eastwood was constantly getting cast in new roles due to a track record of talent
this is not what happened with takihiro sakurai and cloud
that pic that gets posted all the time isn't even the same fucking person yet you retards still think ken-sama "made it"
spoilers, he didn't
cope, ken-sama rocks
sad part is original ken-sama is still married to his jew wife kek
constantly getting cast in new roles due to a track record of talent
this is not what happened with takihiro sakurai
>theater trained actors who respect the craft
often overdo it, because you need to do that in stage acting. they are unnaturally loud because otherwise the audience in the back rows wouldnt understand anything and for the same reason they have to overpronounce words and exaggerate emotions, which sounds really weird in a tv or game setting where the act is supposed to reflect real life conversations. as a whole stage acting breaks the suspension of disbelief pretty hard on tv and in movies and games as well. also stage plays are often meant to be super artsy and philosophical and interpreted in a "modern audience" way filled with THE MESSAGE, which is already a big problem as it is. inviting stage actors who are full blown woke liberal activists and used to feminist, anti-macho, anti-colonialist, anti-capitalist interpretations of works of literature is pretty great risk.
often overdo it
and its kino every time, every single line
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Why do voice actors have such large egos? In terms of making the game, their role is tiny. Them getting paid very little makes sense
again, no one in the japanese casting of ff7 remake audtiioned for the role
that entire history could be eliminated and sakurai still would've gotten the role
and that's the problem with japanese voice acting
hellena taylor is very much a fringe case so i dont know why you retards cling so heavily to this
I have voiced this character therefore I essentially am them and deserve all the credit for your love for them
The arrogance is staggering, honestly. They genuinely think they're more important than the writers, character designers, artists etc
in germany voice actors of famous american actors make tons of money because every german knows their voice and so they often get hired for commercials and documentaries. they also never get changed because people dont like it when tom cruise suddenly has a different dub voice. the guy who voices tom cruise in the german dub is probably a millionaire because of it.and thats just the german language sphere of roughly 90 million people. the english language sphere is 10 times that size if you include the esl-folks so i can imagine these english voice actors probably make a shit ton of money.
Should Michael Hollick (Niko's voice actor) have gotten paid more? He got $100000 for his work but because GTA IV made over $600 million in the first week alone he thought he was being under paid
wHY IS FACE SO FAT WHEN HE'S NOT EVEN FAT IN PICTURES I'VE SEEN OF HIM
HOW DOES THAT WORK
huge jaw.
GTA IV did not sell due to Niko's performance, so no.
If someone sees matt damon is starring in a film, that contributes to sales. That is the justification for royalties.
This by and large doesn't extend to video games.
ASIANS SHOULD ONLY VOICE ASIAN CHARACTERS!
WHITEY STOP STEALING OUR JERBS
proceeds to voice pic related
when the fuck did sungwon cho voice richter
I never understand this, shouldn't it be the game devs who actually spent hundred of hours across multiples years of making the game be the ones who want more money? A voice actor is easily replaced and can be done by just about anyone
I like that Rockstar hires lesser known voice actors for their games which makes the characters feel more unique since it's not the same fucking voice roulette of Troy Baker, Steve Bloom, Nolan North, etc.
Arrogant voice actors are the reason I'm all for AI voices
The difference is that most German voice actors actually dub shit in a way that feels natural. Compare that to modern vidya dubs where there might be one or two stand out roles but everyone else is bored out of their minds while aping 2000s anime dub actors, badly.
His Serbian fucking sucked so no.
A voice actor is easily replaced
absolutely not. the audience hates it when their beloved character suddenly sounds different.
nothing in nazi language sounds natural
You can't tell me this shit isn't just perfect
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And that's from a time where no one really gave a fuck about vidya dub quality
its the language of philosophers and scientists
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How'd someone even come up with those words?
i normally hate all britfags, but i hate American VAs even more.
we're in europoor hours so this doesn't surprise me
Pay voice actors their fair share based on Marx's labour theory of value! Anything less is oppression and exploitation.
he was outstanding
Pay voice actors their fair share
Okay
Pays them less
LABOUR
THEORY
OF
VALUE
ANYTHING THAT GETS BETWEEN THE PROLETARIAT AND THE VALUE OF THEIR LABOUR IS THEFT
Is the American voice acting industry beyond saving?
it has always been shit and it's about time people noticed
HEY NOW
Troy Baker does a REALLY good joker
His contract didn't include royalty from sales and R* is not the wrong part here, he's basically just greedy prick
I'm glad the era of "let's pay retards in california a gorillion dollars to do a shitty job" is coming to an end
yeah now you're just paying nepo babies in tokyo to do a shitty job
much better
I'm sorry, I just don't care about VA in games because I can read. If I wanted to hear people talking I would watch a movie or listen to an audiobook.
While you're at it you can keep your celebrity facescans as well, in fact I would rather NOT see prolific real life actors in my games because it's kind of jarring.
this guy monkey pawed himself
I wish I had a voice for voice acting. People take it for granted, and surely there's billions of people on the planet who can do it, but I'm not one of them.
It wasn't this bad in the past. Shit mostly just sucked when budget games got dubbed. Now practically every single fucking game gets a budget game tier dub.
those "nepo babies" are still better than pedophiles- i mean pedophiles- i mean pedophiles- i mean leftists
this but unironically
they do a good job so that's fine by me, I'll pay any amount of money for Sawashiro Miyuki, while 1 cent spent is too many for calitranny trash
VOICE ACTORS SHOULD ONLY PLAY CHARACTERS OF THEIR SAME RACE/ETHNICITY!
WHY AM I ONLY GETTING ROLES FOR CHARACTERS OF MY RACE/ETHNICITY??
Sadly for the nip it's still there hence that faggot yongyea still got va gig with sega, while most european/american (that not pozzed) already moved to brit theater actor/actress
they do a good job
if you honestly believe this i envy your delusions
no one can match your delusions of thinking that cutting your dick off will turn you into a woman
im a cis male italian german white man with a chinese girlfriend i inseminate twice a week
am i the only one who wants some normal fuckin voices from some normal fuckin people in my games?
like, no i dont want to hear laura baily for the 50th time, we all know its her and it breaks immersion. even the people in "the industry" that come cheaper are expensive enough that they cant even get that many people. its why the same guy does all the fuckin nord voices in skyrim. its super obvious when they start re-using shit
just get some dudes off the street and pay them a third of what you pay these "voice actors" and I guarantee we'll all be better off for it
i dont care if you think "professional vas" do it better, we all know deep down that they dont. you're reading a script into an already set up studio, anyone can do it. what we can't all do is memorize our lines and perform them while being physical on a stage or in front of a camera. thats why real actors are respected and "voice actors" post on bluesky
I'm an amerimutt troon living in california
we already knew that much
i live in new york actually
like, no i dont want to hear laura baily for the 50th time
laura bailey is rarely casted these days so idk where this is coming from
I don't think that's true, most people are absolutely dogshit at acting, even for a simple role, calitranny voice actors are dogshit garbage for sure compared to other voice actors but they're still less jarring than a random dude, even someone who's used to talking to a crowd like a streamer will turn into a robot when having to read a script, you could just go to a college campus or a high school and get kids doing theater, they'll be just as good if not better than calitranny voice actors and cost much less
same shit
subsitute her name for any VA whos name you can think of off the top of your head. same idea, they're all shit and they all need to go
same shit
new york is a lot colder and has better pizza
For any dollar spent in voice acting, you could have
better coding
better soundtrack
better graphics
more marketing (more sales)
With the only downside being
the VA union malding at you for like a week
And even if you DID absolutely need voice acting for some reason, you can just hire some random bozos off twitter for pennies, or just use ai.
Corpos are starting to realize these talentless parasites are literally worthless baggage. A game being professionally voice acted was a novelty in the 90s, now literally nobody cares.
Is the American voice acting industry beyond saving?
We haven't had animated Over The Air programming, since Obama, and Disney killed it. That's Antenna TV for the zoomers out there. What happened was Disney bought all the talent WWE style, and then gave them contracts to only do Disney produced projects like Studio Ghibli. Then it was cheaper to use contracted actors to do voice overs in Disney projects so there was no new blood in voice acting ever since Live Action is Disney's current focus. That is how EN dubbing died.
Korea is plastic surgery capital of the world for a reason, they all have fat faces and square heads.
FF14 starts with american VAs
It sucks
Recast everyone with Britsh VAs
Quality dramatically improves
Latest expansion has some American VAs again
new characters have shit VAs, old characters have shit audio quality because they clearly skimped on recording in bongland
What is wrong with these people?
Cushing's
Is it a payment thing or just a British VA's are treated fairer thing?
its dey culture
Video games have more in common with movies over books though
It's the equivalent of saying
Why would I want voice acting when I can turn on subtitles
Storing up all the acted voice
Maybe the moviegame ones you play, bud.
I bet you don't even play video games.
Social media made them expose themselves and thought their union would make them untouchable.