How do we fix it?
How do we fix it?
Open world doesn't make sense. It's made pointless due to having warp points every-fucking-where
make it semi-open world like dark souls or elden ring, if anything. remove climbing and the paraglider which both just streamline the hell out of moving around
Fix what exactly?
Remove weapon durability and add survival crafting mechanics
I feel that weapon durability is needed. It works like ammo in a survival shooter game. The big problem is that resources are so fucking plentiful.
No wonder why the game works best when you have little resources and have to be creative/smart using them like in the BotW DLC trials and in the proving ground shrines in TOTK
It's just a casual game series. It can't get very deep or hard.
Are there ANY botw-like games that feel more interesting?
There's really nothing to fix without starting from a clean slate. It's a game that got a massive time budget and was directed/produced by two individuals (Fujibayashi and Aonuma respectively) who apparently can't bring a project to fruition on time or with any kind of coherence.
Even the fact that it's split into two games is fundamentally rooted in a scheduling conflict that forced them to put out a placeholder game (BotW) just so that they could sunset the Wii U.
The fact that BotW was as good as it was only serves to underline that open world games are all too frequently the result of reckless, overambitious management that needed to be taken to task much earlier.
Weapon durability is necessary, the problem is that there is just too much of an emphasis on actually hitting things, Players are lead to the mistaken assumption that a stick is good for hitting things, rather than being good at setting things on fire.
A lot of that stems from the mediocre UI, changes made for Switch parity and bandaid solutions though.
- 100% unique world (no Hyrule, Zelda, or Ganon) that's smaller than BotW but more condensed. Feels closer to OoT/MM/TP in terms of weird dark fantasy. Lots of strange and unique biomes and new races. New memorable villain that's a legitimate threat.
- Heavy focus on dungeons. At least 9 major dungeons. No shrines, instead there are fewer but larger themed mini-dungeons that each explore a puzzle gimmick. Also some combat gauntlets here and there. All the mini-dungeons and gauntlets take away all your stuff like Eventide. Major dungeons are designed like classic Zelda dungeons (interconnected, architectural, lock and key, combat, new abilities) but integrate BotW physics.
- Underwater exploration. One biome is 90% underwater and leads to a water dungeon.
- No more blood moon. All enemies die permanently. Clearing out enemy camps gives valuable rewards. Clearing an entire region of enemy camps can lead to NPCs taking over. New enemy camps and roaming enemies can spawn in after important story events (e.g. clearing a dungeon).
- Way more enemy variety. New enemy types are introduced over time.
- New weapons are found from rare chests and quest rewards. Weapons have more diverse movesets with a larger set of attacks. Weapons have higher durability and when they break they become unusable instead of disappearing. Weapons can be repaired with a special item or via blacksmith NPCs. If Link has no items equipped he uses punches and kicks (weak damage and low range but can be upgraded by NPCs at special dojos). Enemies still drop weapons but they work like in Wind Waker.
- Food now only gives buffs. You get a limited number of bottles (for potions/fairies) that heal in real-time.
- Menus actually have soul.
- Link has 10% more muscle mass.
Oh yeah and
- No golden turds. Environmental puzzles still exist but they spawn chests and give a wide variety of items. Also the item that shows you where they are is given from a quest instead of DLC.
Link has muscle mass
Ruined
BotW/TotK Link looks emaciated. I'm not asking for him to be a bodybuilder, just to look like a healthy adventurer. At least slightly under twunk.
It's too much to fix without fixing society first, and that's already too far gone to be accomplished any way other than spiritually. Many retards are moving to Japan and hoping for the best while the crackheaded gaywads that run amok in the West continue to metastasize around their success in influencing major franchises to the extent of Zelda becoming a gay fanfic with some token gameplay and indie visual design. Nintendo is on their side, so any good suggestions will go right into the trash at this point.
ditch shrines
ditch degradable equipment
add tools
open ended dungeons
quests with actual rewards
world size appropriate to the content it offers (smaller)
fire whoever came up with the depths and who allowed it to happen
Take your meds.
Make it a third time but this time make it like Windwaker.
They'll add more content in the Switch 3 release.
guys please give me attention please please please I post in every single thread PLEASE
Still don't understand why TOTK gets so much hate and vitriol when it's a substantially better game than BOTW. Were people just burnt out from spending thousands of hours in a glorified tech demo?
TotK is only the "better game" if you treat it like a checklist of features and don't care about the actual experience of playing it.
No shit a lot of people aren't going to like trudging through the same world as a game from 6 years ago. That level of shameless derivativeness isn't exciting.
Even ignoring the recycling and focusing exclusively on the new content, there's a lot of major problems. The Depths are repetitive as fuck, the sky is repetitive and sparse, the story is dogshit, Fuse is tedious, and vehicles despawn at the drop of a hat.
Fix what exactly?
Exactly.
Imagine OP walking into any game development studio, proudly announcing he's going to "fix" BotW/TotK.
He would get laughed out the fucking door.
You know how the world is fuckhueg, and you know how there's only one Hyrule Castle and it's awesome? Why don't the devs take all of that space and make like 10 more Hyrule Castles? Why are we not fucking doing this? I don't understand.
OOTsnoy having a shitfit meltdown and reporting any posts that call out his samefag echo chamber thread
Did Snoy fucking buy Anon Babble or something?
Level design is hard, much easier to generate a bunch of terrain and then copypaste stuff on top.
Can't wait to replay the ultimate editions of these masterpieces on my Switch 2 this week.
Weapon Durability could work but it needs to scale. What I mean is the later game weapons should take way longer to break. It will make it rewarding to find a really good weapon but still make you think about using it.
smaller map
more waifu bait
Fire that hack whos name i dont care to remember how to spell
much easier to generate a bunch of terrain and then copypaste stuff on top
That's every video game kiddo. Do you think Nintendo was hand-drawing all those platforms and Koopas in Super Mario Bros?
- Underwater exploration. One biome is 90% underwater and leads to a water dungeon.
That's something Genshin Impact does.
Hell, all of Genshin's areas have different mechanics which change how the world works, which is great.
BotW/TotK may have a ton of different areas but they're all very samey
I feel bad for the regular BotW/TotK fanboy spammer because he has to be associated with the schizo spammer.
That's what the 6 years of development time is for.
Imagine if every Super Mario Bros level was 1-1 but with slight variations. That's how the content feels in BotW/TotK.
That's something Genshin Impact does.
Hell, all of Genshin's areas have different mechanics which change how the world works, which is great.
BotW/TotK may have a ton of different areas but they're all very samey
Kek what the fuck am I reading? Genshin Impact's world is utterly dead and sterile compared to BotW/TotK's world, which a living breathing dynamic constantly changing eco system which informs the gameplay and player interactions with it. Genshin looks utterly childlike in comparison.
Don't let the OoTsnoy samefaggot see this one.
Xe's already having a samefag meltdown as is.
That's just drivel lol the amount of unique content and gameplay variety utterly dwarfs its peers. Keep seething.
Buy a Switch 2 and they will be fixed there
Depths is 100x bigger than it actually needs to be. Sky islands aren't as cool as they could be. Hyrule is basically the same.
Don't be a faggot and you won't have to worry about the console for faggots and their trooned out games.
25 years later
still the best Zelda game
apologize
NICE dickripped desperation samefag&bump OOTsnoy discord samefag!
It would be really funny to put the blade of a knife in your nose and flick it sideway LOL
Hit your teeth perpendicular with a hammer LOL
Take both thumbs and shove into your eyes until they reach the back of your skull LOL
Hyrule's map got changed around a lot too. I don't know why people pretend it's exactly the same.
This was a profound disappointment in 2000. Literally Busy Work: The Game. What a colossal fucking chore to play.
schizotranny moment
What meds? You seem to know alot about that kind of thing.
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makes xer 400th anti-BoTW and anti-Switch shitposting thread this week alone
A-A-ACTUALLY YOU'RE THE MENTALLY SCHIZOS NOT US SNOYS
Isn't that the idiot that doomed final fantasy?
OoT
snoy
Do you even know the meaning of the buzzwords you are using?
Shhhhh. Every "pre-BoTW" Zelda is a flawless masterpiece according to the OOTsnoy discord
And there's the obligatory "pretending to be clueless" shitpost he always pulls put when outed as a snoy.
I didn't even bother with TotK. Game looks like it doubles down on everything I disliked about BotW and fixes none of it.
You would know what gets said on Discord, wouldn't you?
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THERE XE IS AGAIN!
XER 45TH SAMEFAG POST IN THIS SHITPOST THREAD ALONE!
KEEP IT UP ERIC
Totk is one of my top 10 games and I have played near a thousand games.
I disliked botw btw.
Lets be real, the og zelda formula was getting stale since twilight princess. They all play out the same. Its such an easy formula, thats why dozens of indies have copied it.
Do you really want the same fucking game with the same formula for 30+ years? I sure dont. I'm happy it happend and I'm happy its over
Tendies on twitter are saying that Link is a tranny, is he/she really?
I feel that weapon durability is needed. It works like ammo in a survival shooter game
Yet there's actual ammo in the game via arrows. It's not needed.
the problem is that there is just too much of an emphasis on actually hitting things
Just like past Zelda games, which didn't have this problem. Someone was probably hitting a wall too much during a test play, someone else made a joke about the weapon breaking and either Aonuma or that other chucklehead thought it was a good idea to make your weapons degrade. Meaningful reward are needed, even if it's just gems or rupees.
Unlimited battery upgrade and more enemy variety there fixed
OoTsnoys are a very real observed phenomenon
he's a femboy in a japanese media which means american groomers have to insist he's something else
It's contarian OoTfags fanboys that turned into snoys following the Switch's release. You can actively see it in this thread alone.
cool proof of concept tech demos but they should go back to making real zelda games now
XE'S BACK!
HI ERIC.
sounds great, were can I buy this game?
There is no fixing it anymore. It's over. Move on.
Tears of the Kingdom shouldn't have any of that building shit. BotW was perfect.
There's nothing wrong with switching up the formula, but TOTK and BOTW had so many problems that you're purposely ignoring. For example, travel is meaningless because of how easy it is to get from point A to point B. Once you figure out how to make the hoverbike, the world stops having any kind of pushback or challenge, and instant free fast travel guarantees that you never have to invest time or effort into a return trip. You can just bypass every single obstacle in your way. I firmly believe that you should never be given anything for free in a game, otherwise you don't appreciate it, and fast travel is one of those things.
In other games, where you have to manually create your own fast travel points, or at least invest some kind of physical resource into them, it feels much more earned. You respect the time saved by using it, because you usually have to deal with the backtracking without it.
Add real dungeons.