Was it a commercial success? Woke aside, just pure numbers and statistics

Bronies aren't good faith posters.

He compared it to various games that came out recently and some of them happen to be multiplayer. Also, I'd give you bg3 was purchased due to multiplayer, but not elden dicks. Lastly you're gay.

Lmao it only has 456 more players than a game that's nearly 14 years old. Bioware is cooked.

Wukong, Skyrim and Witcher 3 don't have any multiplayer. BG3 is a game that 99% of people play in single player and Elden Ring aside from its small dedicated pvp community has asymmetric multiplayer which is basically just adding a little bit of extra flavor to the single player experience.

3 out of 5 games that are supposedly barely "beating it" are multiplayer

hmm

the witcher 3 and skyrim are multiplayer

top three are chinese, polish and japanese

ameribros... are we washed?

Congratulations on being a retarded nigger

2 out of those 5 games have multiplayer. The other 3 don't have any multiplayer features at all and Wukong, a game without any multiplayer is not just barely beating it.

the witcher 3 is a multiplayer game

It's a commercial failure, obviously.
200 mil dev budget (probably higher given how much time it spent in development) + marketing.
They need to sell at least 5-6 million copies at full price to cover the dev+ marketing expenses. They need to sell more than that to make a profit. Not gonna happen, this game's long term sales will be abysmal given how much ridicule it's receiving online.

Will Bioware get shut down? Probably not. I mean, they weren't shut down after Anthem so...

Its performing on player count at the evel of fallout 4, Witcher 3 and Skyrim and it was relased like two weeks ago.
75% of its players havent probably finished their first run

Total flop

According to the Steam achievements, nearly 90% of players have not beaten the game.

Imagine the meetings going on at the exec level right now. Frantically trying to figure out how to detrans and unpoz mass effect without getting sued by the invaders they let into their house.

I'm convinced there's going to be a plot point where an AI tries to transition to organic, and you're not only forced to allow it to happen but you will only have choices of the phrasing your support of the procedure is.

A good metric for refunds would likely be the 2nd or 3rd chapter completion rate.

If it sold gangbuster then I'm sure EA won't shut up about it.

No, it was not a success. It just sold its millionth apparently, which is terrible for a 15-year AAA game in a long running franchise.

Will it destroy EA? No, EA has deep, deep pockets.

Will it destroy Bioware? They're probably going to get once more chance with Mass Effect 4 (5?) before being consigned to EA's pit of destroyed development studios.

I really don't understand why they gave these people so much creative freedom to begin with. Whatever happened to corporate meddling during the development process? Wasn't EA famous for that? It's crazy to think that we have gotten to a point where a board room of greedy suits keeping the writers and director for Veilguard in check would objectively have resulted in a better end product.

Wukong only has chinese players which aren't even fully human. Then you're clamoring for the netflix casual audience with witcher 3 and BG3, none of the games you're comparing it to offer any perspective because the only peopel that paly them are retarded subhumans

The tranny who directed Veilguard was formerly on the Sims.
The Sim has gone full woke since its main audience is mentally ill cat ladies. EA probably thought they could make their epic fantasy RPG appeal to the same market.

The rot goes all the way up.

EA only cares about Mass Effect, they've already greenlit a tie in streaming series. The DA:V team is the Mass Effect team, they announced no DLC even before release because they had no one to work on DLC. The studio will get to make ME, after which EA will decide to maintain or cut their losses. DA:V's many flaws are likely to carry forward, they don't have the technical talent to do better. Autoritarian-progressives never learn from their mistakes, they are on a moral crusade and always always always double down in the face of critism. The new ME will likely be a marginal game, it'll sell better than DA:V, but is unlikely to be a commercial success in part because of all the bad will the studio has accumulated. Bioware has a string of high profile failures and a staff that has almost none of the people that made successful games in the past. The lead on ME is also overseeing the show, so he'll be splitting his attention between two different rabidly progressive industries, he's gonna be in an echo chamber so loud he'll never know when things are going to shit. Any dev with any sense has already left, what Bioware has to work with now just isn't capable of doing better, even if they were willing to. EA is completely bound to their forever game franchises, they'll kill Bioware once it fails to make ME into one.

what does that make the people that play Veilguard, which is objectively a far worse RPG than any of those comparisons listed? I mean, I always hated how overrated Witcher 3 was, but I don't think anyone would deny that it is an absolute masterpiece compared to Veilguard. Even Skyrim is a masterpiece compared to Veilguard.

Nigga, you're acting like all the dialogue in Veilguard isn't the most Hollywood "I went to writing school" slop ever.

supposedly

It sold less than 1m
Rumors say even less than 500k.

Did you applaud while a tear rolled down your cheek when the, "I'm non-binary," cutscene played? Did you thank Bioware for making a character that's built like you?

Apparently recent internal email states that it's 1M, and they are going to have a party because of that, but people inside the studio are stressed out because the game is not doing well at all. (according to smash jt)
youtu.be/psui7nLqAGU?si=5O2pDtKaakCZl3-5

wukong sucks

witcher 3 sucks

cyberpunk sucks

elden ring sucks

hogwarts sucks

BG3 sucks

fallout 4 sucks

monster hunter world sucks

Divinity original sin 2 sucks

but muh veilguard

I don't think you twitter imports have any room to talk

Solas was meant to be much more evil

Elven gods were supposed to be badly mutated by the blight and turned into darkspawn

fleshed out romances with nudity

tone was meant to be much darker

WHAT THE FUCK BIOWARE
YOU LITERALLY SNATCHED DEFEAT FROM THE JAWS OF VICTORY

The game made billions.
BILLIONS OF PESOS!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

I hate everything

Ok anon, what do you play?

and yet they all did better than DAV

lmao

witcher's peak was 100,000 players on steam and made $418,976,288.94 according to google. Dragon Age: The Veilguard peak was 89,000 players. So Dragon Age made roughly $400,000,000. I'd call that a success.

It's been confirmed that it broke one million in sales! Absolute success! As long as you ignore the fact that this thing has been in development for 9 years, which includes a total scrap and reboot of the project

But how do non-binaries, lesbians and wacky marvelcore writing fit into that?

chuds heads will explode when it inevitably gets a cyberpunk tier dlc that revives the game and pushes it to the top of the charts

Source or is this just a grifter's head canon?

They've already stated that the game will get no DLC at all.
They're cutting their losses.

It isn't lighting up charts, I think it's safe to say. Depending on how much budget went into it, it ranges from barely breaking even, to a moderate flop. It isn't Concord or Anthem tier, but it's questionable whether are still enough shit eating retards to keep subsidizing it like with DAI and Andromeda.
Though considering how much these publishers spend on marketing, I'd be surprised if any game that doesn't sell multimillion numbers makes a profit unless it's loaded with microtransactions.

There were those gameplay previews where the game was a souls clone. Game has gone through a LOT of versions.

hater headcanon

I just hope Andromeda hasn't been memory holed to the point people actually think a new mass effect has a chance of being good.

This game failing really mindbroke trannies. I hope this teaches the lesson that these retards don’t actually care about games outside of their use as a propaganda tool. They will defend anything that has their retarded agenda as long as they can “own the chuds”. It will end once BioWare is forced to make the figures public and after a wave of astroturfing attempting to say it was a success the axewounds will just try to sweep it under the carpet like every other flop.

The Director of Veilguard said there will be no DLC, so suck a cock.

the actual answer is no one on this website knows and we won't know until EA releases financials, trying to get actual numbers from steam charts is just reading tea leaves. if i had to guess it probably turned a profit but underperformed expectations, but again, i don't know shit

The Sim has gone full woke since its main audience is mentally ill cat ladies. EA probably thought they could make their epic fantasy RPG appeal to the same market.

yup, it's not a bad idea desu (businesswise at least, it's obviously bad for the quality of the actual game). mentally ill cat ladies are the only ones buying modern fantasy books and those books are all written in the exact same campy young adult style as veilguard. however they fucked up big time by having zero appealing romance options because most modern fantasy books are actually just thinly veiled romance/smut - this is why bg3 was huge with mentally ill cat ladies, incidentally

Schreier deleted his tweet gloating about it being a success, this tells you everything you need to know since he has sources within the company and he wouldn't suffer that embarrassment for no reason.

Narrative art and concept story for "Dreadwolf" before Dreadwolf got rebooted into Veilguard from the ex-narrative lead from Bioware.

it probably did ok

I can't imagine how stupid you would have to be to wave cyberpunk and bg3 as an example of quality

I'm expecting it to have done at least a million, maybe two later on, but Veilguard has to at least have had a budget of minimum 200 million, Inquisition was 150 million. It would need 4 million sales (taking 30% cut into account) to break even. And this isn't including the two cancelled Dragon Age 4 projects.

It wasn't such a failure that EA will kill Bioware before ME5, but it wasn't a success. If ME5 has a lukewarm reception then I suspect it will finally be over for Bioware.

I haven't seen this penny arcade yet.

That's your own shill headcanon actually. The no DLC has been confirmed by shill gaming journalists which I'm sure you've already seen so no need to lie so blatantly.

I try to spam Andromeda in every Veilguard thread because Veilguard is clearly made from Andromeda. Just look at an hour of gameplay from Veilguard and think for a second of UI, enemies, triggers, companion system, the lighthouse, etc.

Do not at any point try to hope for the new ME to be anything else than Andromeda 2. It's kinda fine by me because I enjoyed Andromeda but many people did not.

U wot m8? Please do tell your favorite games and god forbid if they are anime daring sims

From Bioware's concept and storyboard guy that's WORKED ON EVERY DRAGON AGE SINCE ORIGINS
BIOWARE GOT RID OF HIM IN 2022 BECAUSE OF COURSE THEY DID

I hope next bioware game will be good

In order for a ME game to be good, each component of the game must be more or less good. Unfortunately, Bioware seems unable to provide either good storytelling and interesting characters (which used to be the main thing about Bioware) or gameplay that would rival other current action/RPG games. (Admittedly, ME3 and MEA combat were pretty good.) Since they are unable to create good storytelling and characters, they can no longer successfully use their game formula, which is an emotional rollercoaster, because players aren't interested in flat, uninspiring, and ugly characters and don't care about them.
A similar situation is with the narrative. All mass effect missions are more or less using the same pattern: Shepard goes on a mission (novelty), the mission turns out not to be what it was supposed to be (a surprise), Shepard turns the tide because he is a badass, he saves the day, makes a heroic decision. Looking at the Veilguard, I don't believe they will be able to pull that off and execute it in the right way. I think they have very limited ability to invent something new or even represent cool old ideas in a successful way. (Elven gods! Elven gods are here! our Gods!). I'm not even going to touch DEI shit. I have to say though, they should be afraid—that this will 100% affect their sales in a negative way. Even normies, gay people included, are tired of trannies and their victimhood and alphabet preaching in every form of media.
Another big topic is the engine (outside of its technical issues). They are going to use UE5; how good are they with it? How long are they working with it? I have no idea. This game will be 100% suboptimal in its use.

It was pretty bad sales-wise

If it was a commerical success you'd see it all over social media with "x amount of sold."

Solas with a red lyrium dagger

I don't know if thats meant to be a flashback but having solas be more active in the present-day part of the plot would have been nice

What would you guess your IQ is? 80?

a rare contrarian take

meh

It isn't Concord or Anthem tier

It's going to be hard for anyone to pull another Concord, because Sony literally made 0 money on it due to them automatically refunding people who bought it.

Schreier deleting his "own the chuds" victory tweet

IGN putting out articles that are softly walking back their review of Veilguard

trade-in value for it is lower than fucking Stellar Blade

no official sales tweets

This game 100% bombed lol, no "underperformed" blow-softening here

This game is going to go in a museum one day as one of the last big budget dumpster fires of its era. The bubble burst and people will look at this garbage and think "what the fuck were they thinking".

You're a contrarian if you watch netflix, you just don't know it. Because the people that watch netflix, like cyberunk and witcher 3, BG3, elden ring, they're all fucking stupid morons that spend money on the hobby to "turn their brains off" and watch a movie

yeah yeah all people are bad except you just kys nigga

Yes the people that play modern netflix games are contrarians, they're slopfiends that will buy anything

The Witcher 3 had two expansions and thus a much longer tail.
You can't extrapolate from the peak alone.

Veilguard will turn a modest profit, but that doesn't make it a good investment when weighed against the opportunity costs.

what is inflation

if you want a real answer, compare how much the budget would have made the company if they just bought some stocks inside the SP500 10 years ago. That's how investors measure success.

So, 200 million (the lowest estimate of the budget) 10 years ago on the SP500 would have created a profit of 565,400,000 (an 182.7% increase).

So unless the game makes 500 million, at least, it would be considered a failure.

Being nice and assuming they already sold 1 million units at 60 bucks each game, then substracting the cost of creating the game/marketing/steam cut/etc, you can see there is no way this isnt a colossal waste of money.

Did you hear about whistleblowers from EA / BioWare telling YouTubers about how this game sold a million copies, and how the company is investigating for whistleblowers?

Too early to say, ask after Holiday season/EA investor call

Veilguard will turn a modest profit

kek. veilguard will not even make it 50% to breaking even.

considers games that 95% of people play as single player games with some multiplayer features as "multiplayer games"

only a leftist could be this disingenuous. neck yourself.

VGH, DAO WAS SOME GLORIOUS MASTERPIECE

Nice narrative, too bad it's not accurate.

Was it a commercial success?

Quite simply, no. It was a 10 year dev cycle that cost around $200 to $300 million to make, and that's a low estimate. It sold, at best, about a million copies, generating around $60 million. It was a massive flop, from even the most generous assessment.

Where is your crystal ball?

I mean the only reason people play souls games, monster hunter games and larian games is the multiplayer. Take out the multiplayer and they wouldn't sell 200,000 copies

10 years

6

200 to 300 mil, low estimate

I can pull numbers out from my ass as well. It cost $5 dollar to make, because *rolls the wheel* ... "subzidization". Lets go with that.

generous assessment

More like nefarious brainfart. Read a book.

you don't need one. it's fucking obvious.

It will appear in textbooks as a prime example of the growing politicization of media in this social dark age.

Conscientious art is always necessarily political.
And philosophically conscious games have always had political themes, but they were not always used so didactically.

At some point, people stopped appealing to shared principles and making good-faith arguments within a common framework.
Now, they're just dehumanizing their opponents and screeching from their soapboxes with no intent or desire to actually persuade them.

It's become a war rather than a discourse, and this era will not be remembered fondly.

you are braindead if you really believe that, i agree about MH, but MH wasn't listed in the image we are discussing.

you will NEVER be a woman, nor will you ever even remotely resemble one.

I'm actually right and you can cope. Games with multiplayer sell so much easier today to casual zoomers, then you have the chinese which were added to steam back in 2021 and are the main reason for a jump from 1-200,000 peak players to nearly 2 million

The fact of the matter is the industry is completely dead and has been for some time now, and games don't sell based on merit.

nope. most people play elden ring and bg3 solo. their numbers today would still mog veilshit if the servers were dead.

Was it a commercial success?

No and you can tell it flopped because EA hasn't mad any sort of statement bragging about it's sales.

If EA considered the Dead Space remake to be a series killing flop only selling 2 mil, then Veilguard is a financial flop in their eyes

most people play elden ring and bg3 solo

source? oh yeah your coping ass

There is little concrete evidence to assert either way, but I should think it's obvious that the majority of BG3 players did so alone, as it is narrative-focused with high player agency.
Playing with others diminishes that agency.
If you want to play D&D with others, you can play D&D which is social by necessity.
BG3 allows you to enjoy a well-adjudicated campaign without the commitment and coordination required by the tabletop.

There is little concrete evidence to assert either way

That's a funny way of saying that you were lying

The only reason I struggle to use the term bomb is because Concord is the new definition of a AAA disaster. Hundreds of millions invested into it, special edition controllers and merchandise made for it, acquiring land to set up a new studio near Seattle for it, and being so confident it would be a success that they paid Amazon to make some episode dedicated towards it. All for a game that was estimated to have sold less than 25k copies and was shut down after a week.
I don’t think the new Dragon Age is doing stellar either, considering it was in dev hell for years. But even accounting for refunds it’s probably doing better, even if the sales figures are muddled due to being given away on PC.

I'm not the guy you replied to.
I just point out the obvious to retards.

You literally cannot use Concord as the baseline for bombing, considering it's rock bottom. That's like saying a grade of 41/100 isn't a failing grade just because some other kid got a 0/100.

Okay so fuck off your input isn't needed. The fact remains, fact, that horrible games like elden ring would not sell and would not have the staying power they have without the skinnerbox multiplayer.

Games like BG3 incentivize playing with friends because otherwise the content is too boring for a solo playthrough. The zoomer would be pushed to make their friends buy the game so they aren't so bored playing it, kind of funny right?

Feels like many triple a games that are getting released these days are becoming financial bombs internally cause they bloat up the budgets to hell and back, only to make a few million back.

If it's at least as good as inquisition it'll be an okay release, I think the combat side of the game will likely be pretty good no matter what but I'm next expecting another good space odyssey game, frankly I think I'd be happy if the cast is actually charismatic. You know for sure it'll have some nonsensical shit like "Male" Asari or gay Krogans

the only people i know that have said this game is reddit and my normie coworkers with insufferably bad taste, so basically, if you play this, youre reddit and a normalfag. pirating doesnt doesnt prevent this fact

It’s hard to think of many other points of reference then besides comparing it to EA’s other recent games like Dead Space’s remake, a critically and fan loved game that just didn’t sell well enough to convince the publisher to make a sequel. Or Wild Hearts, their take on Monster Hunter that didn’t get any major expansions or a sequel because it didn’t do MonHun numbers out of the gate.
By those standards then it isn’t hard to see Veilguard as a bust. Hell, even EA proudly boasted about Anthem’s commercial performance at launch IIRC, critic and player reception aside.

Will EA kill BioWare or was it a success?

can you really kill what's already dead.

I am still surprised EA might let Bioware do a new Mass effect game after this, unless they consider it to be one last hail mary attempt for profit before the layoffs start coming

They bloat their budgets and often do stupid shit to put off lots of prospective buyers, both new and would-be returning fans.

The game is a massive flop
Get woke go broke
Hire woke go broke

Trump won, everything
You are despised, never forget that.

That is absolutely the case. So much money is going into making games with “realistic” visuals and incredibly detailed animations, which could only be achieved via excessive outsourcing on top of that. Nevermind the costs of motion capture, longer dev times, higher costs of living, so many people working on a game that the credits take nearly 2 hours to watch, ect. AAA productions weren’t sustainable for years, but this gen will absolutely be the straw that breaks the camel’s back.

EA's always been somewhat disconnected from reality but it's hard to tell what went wrong with some games. I guess Dead Space never really made insane sales and the marketing for it wasn't the best either, but Wild Hearts could have sold better, I just thought it was a weird somewhat bland monhun ripoff so I didn't purchase it

horrible games like elden ring would not sell and would not have the staying power they have without the skinnerbox multiplayer.

you are a literal braindead 40iq nigger if you believe this

Games like BG3 incentivize playing with friends

no, they don't. they are heavy narrative based games that the VAST majority of people play alone, with the option to play with your friends if you really want to. you are an absolute fucking retard

Good bot

Yeah newflash, souls games are some of the original slop that sell completely on marketing to zoomers and low informatino impulse buyers

if you don't beat this game you're a pussy!

it's like an MMO, except not at all!

drop in drop out multiplayer, except not at all!

twink and kill new players with horrible laggy online and get your power fantasy!

watch bosses freeze in multiplayer and generally not respond correctly!

source? because before larian paid hundreds of millions of dollars to add the shitty movie experience to DOS 3 the only reason people played larian games was the multiplayer

source?

Play the game.

Okay so you're lying

source?

common sense
which fromsoft game filtered and buckbroke you like this?

frankly playing with your friends is outright the worse way to experience it because
1) you'll never finish
2) they'll talk over it
Which is fun in it's own way, but I'm pretty sure the game's narrative is fine and meant for single player.
DOS2 barely has any plot to speak off other than comedy so it itself is more of a coop turn based game

But that's the entire model of Larian's success, you get friends to pressure their friends to buy a shitty game and then you don't finish it

I don't know man Souls games are basically the best action adventure games on the market right now, even better with how cryptic sidequests and locations are. They have a genuine appeal outside of zoomer multiplayer brainrot and lore-tism

the way he worded his post immediately tells me he got filtered and is still seething to this day.

There's no quests in souls games you're high

It works, and it's fun to play with them, but I'm not going to pretend I bought the game to only play multiplayer. DOS1 and 2 yeah, but I bought BG3 to play the narrative myself with the added bonus of having relatively easy DnD to play with friends

Was it a commercial success?

no

Will EA kill BioWare or was it a success?

If only, but probably not. EA will force Bioware to create the next Mass Effect, and that will be the real determining factor. Not a lot of faith in that though.

TRVTHNVKE

This is a genuinely Sub-Saharan IQ post
So I see now anon, so I see

okay but the "narrative" of BG3 has even less effort put into it than larian's previous games, which infamously are never finished

completely irrelevant. bg3 is faggotry infested dogshit, but that doesn't change the fact that it's designed to be a single player game and that's how most people played it

I don't see how it's designed to be a single player game when it's reskinned DOS 2 which only sold because of its multiplayer

but the movie

the movie sucks

you are clearly autistic if you can't see how such a story heavy game isn't predominantly single player

the movie sucks

yes it does. irrelevant though.

Was it a commercial success?

400,000+ refund requests
I have no idea what the actual number is now, this number is from a few days after release.

Okay so the movie is a selling point to low information impulse buyers too?

I disagree, BG3 is solidly coherent for the entire duration of the plot, DOS2 is only consistent with character sidequests everything else is rather incoherent. You can say you don't like BG3's story, its branding as a BG game, or the quality/type of writing, but you can't in good faith claim it's a DOS2 reskin

You've done nothing but lie.
There's no hard data to indicate what are marketed as RPGs (Classic or Action) are primarily played multiplayer.
Souls games are likely played "online" by most, but that amounts to periodic summoning & invasion, which have significant constraints, actively discouraging continuous online play.
Baldur's Gate 3 is adapted D&D 5e without the need for other players, particularly a DM, a role few are cut out to perform.
Nevermind what an ordeal it is to play through a 100hr+ game with other people.

BG3 is easily one of the most incoherent games I've ever played, that's a funny choice of words

I'm going to take a shit all over the math and claim victory

Ah, it's the faggot tranny approach

I love how the broken telephone misinterperets these numbers mlre every time I see them.

Holy fuck, whole Anon Babble is trans?

And dragons dogma 2 was considered a flop by its own publisher and it was made on less of a budget than either of those games, more than twice the playercount of veilguard and has better reviews

No.

Better than the 2020 bots that failed this election and couldn't get harris elected lmao

But it is really good

2020 bots did win according to your take tho

this election

lmao, lefty is so mad he cant even read

it might kill the studio that made it

bruh most of w3 was on gog. CDPR wanted this to be their half life 2 to pool customers into their storefront. Heck, even for cyberpunk all you get are gog keys. Assuming that their sales numbers are even remotely comparable is absolute bonkers.

if blacks vanished from the planet, what sector of society would suffer?

So is Veilguard, just in different way.

faggot thinks it still 2020

At least I can read the calendar, fucking retard.