I'll always rensent Anon Babble for shitting on this game and making me not play it for so long

RDR felt like a gritty western. RDR2 feels like walking through railroaded Disneyland production sets with actors saying yeeehaw every 5 seconds.

Couldn't be me

NOOO, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, EVERYONE WENT OUT OF THEIR WAY TO CALL EACHOTHER NIGGERS BACK THEN

We do today what makes you think they didn’t 100+ years ago?

This whole game is basically a humiliation ritual for white people.

look at me! I have shit taste and I must let you know!

Good for you little, buddy. Attaboy.

It's spring break in schools, right?

There is a noticable drop after chapter 2 which is the high point of the story. There is another chan where we talk about video games. If you're here then you're in the mix with discord troon gangs and outrage baiters.
Now leave or I will start spoiling the game. Here's a minor one:
If you insult a nigger twice in Van Horn Trading Post the entire town will very quickly start shooting at you. It can be quite kino.

RDR1 is a spaghetti western. RDR2 is en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revisionist_Western

it's the GTA4 treatment all over again

Typical Rockstar game cycle of the start felling like its highly reactive and the immersion mechanics will grow deeper. Then your 20 hours in and you realize nothing about the game has changed since the start you're just playing Barbee dream house. The last part is dragging yourself through the end game that feels wholly disconnected from how you play side content and how the protagonist is hard written to be until the only choice at the end of the game.

Game is not even woke, it just has some blacks trying not to be slaves and women trying to get the right to vote, and even then that's just 1 in every 30 missions

Sistah...we need to be better outlaws...

You know Micah…you should really stop using the N word alright partner.

*clicks cowboy boots together*

ARRRIGHT time to help these fine gal’s protest for their right to vote. GIDDYUP

COOLEST SHIT EVER!!

gets his opinions from Anon Babble

What a faggot

anyway yeah it's pretty fun although I'm getting kind of bored of Rockstar's GTA 5 style missions. Just feels samey. Still, playing through it the first time is great.

You're still a fag for getting your opinons from a website where the main pasttime is lying and shit-talking

It filtered all the kids with low attention span

nooooo why can't I kill essential NPCs and have the game automatically rewrite every single mission that comes after so that their successors take their place, thus leading to an entirely different plotline in what is already a 80 hour long game????

please tell me ONE game that does what you want and how this would even achievable without AI just winging it

this game is already so fucking kino

yupp.

The walking dead

He wants the game to have even more cutscenes and take control away from the player even more.

Rockstar's biggest mistake is trusting that the players won't do something retarded and letting them take the wheel. Then they do the most retarded shit imaginable like blowing up the camp with everyone inside and wonder "WTFFF WHY CAN'T I KEEP PLAYING WITH EVERYONE DEAD!!111 THIS GAME IS SO WOKE"

Hahaha, the fucking paragraph of cope

I played a lot of RDO with friends but never the solo
Actually bought RDR1 to play that first

It's very good for a 2010 game, the shooting is honestly better than some games that came out a lot later (including GTA V)

Game is good and the world is cool but as some anons have said, repetition fatigue sets in long before the game actually wraps up. World is cool and very well realised, but there's only so much waist high cover rooms I can walk into.

And its basically nothing but tasks w little action. I'm an old gamer & can't believe how much these games get praise. They're so fucking stupid & people actually waste their lives on this shit.

"Movie games" are a cancer.

The city is just set dressing. Nothing interesting happens here outside of a rotation of scripted events. With the amount of money rockstar rakes in we should be able to enter every building with each of them having unique npcs that follow a schedule based on their professions and lifestyles. Rockstar is good at the smaller details but once you really pay attention the illusion is broken and ruins it. They’re now taking a decade plus to make these games which makes me wonder why the fuck do they take so long when all they’re doing is giving us shinier graphics and devolved gameplay during missions where even gta 3 was superior in that aspect.

v making me not play it

you sound like a mental cuck midget

remember..

youtube.com/watch?v=Jnh-DhOQHCY

You cling to the small actions like eating from the bowl, but you ignore the complex actions like

taming any horse you find in the wild

growing its affection

riding it alongside a train and jumping into the train

having 1000 ways of making the train stop

robbing every passenger

riding away and escaping from the law

Or being able to rob any store, any wagon, multiple houses

This game has a shitton of gameplay and you retards focus on the fact that you can OPTIONALLY eat stew in the camp and the animation takes 5 seconds. Fucking mentally ill.

Nothing interesting happens here outside of a rotation of scripted events

What the fuck could possibly happen that isn't scripted?

Is the game just going to manifest interesting events without scripts/programming?

Rockstar has already implemented a dynamic scripted event system that makes them spawn in different locations so as to be unpredictable, and some of you retards complain about it

Jesus the more I read this thread the more retarded the arguments become

Im sorry OP but I dont understand how anyone likes rockstar games when they are so on rails. I tried RDR2 at my buddy's house and it was just brainlessly going through the motions. Everything would also take fucking ages to do with tons of mini 2-10 second animations for every action

But most games are on rails. The fuck is this criticism?

What do you play that isn't on rails?

What game is everyone playing that lets them kill named NPCs at the first 10 minutes, and then the game magically rewrites the entire plot to accommodate for that?

Come on motherfuckers give me the name of the games

He wants the game to have even more cutscenes and take control away from the player even more.

Like so?

See >Rockstar's biggest mistake is trusting that the players won't do something retarded and letting them take the wheel. Then they do the most retarded shit imaginable like blowing up the camp with everyone inside and wonder "WTFFF WHY CAN'T I KEEP PLAYING WITH EVERYONE DEAD!!111 THIS GAME IS SO WOKE"

Same thing here. They ask you to saddle one of the horses that you are allowed to saddle. If you go full retard and saddle somebody else's horse how the fuck are they supposed to react? Do you think R* should have written an entire civil trial segment where you have to argue why you have the right to the horse? And how would Dutch react to this?

NOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST KILL THE MINOR CHARACTER IN THE ONE THROWAWAY SIDE MISSION WHERE HE GETS KILLED ANYWAY THAT'S NOT WHAT WE HECKIN WANTED YOU TO DO

Epic

This game sold 70 million copies. Its better selling than ANY open world game that claims to "give the player more freedom". Just remember that.

But most games are on rails. The fuck is this criticism?

nah rockstar games have this very very specific formula to all of their gameplay where you have to play exactly how the devs intended or the mission autofails. Like most other games drop you into a level, tell you to do X and then you play. Rockstar games drop you into a level, tell you to do X and MISSION FAILED: you stepped 5 feet away from the npc so then you MISSION FAILED: you went behind the building which is out of bounds.

Like if I play a hitman game I have a myriad of ways to complete a level that are still in character for the game. But in rockstar games literally every bit of freedom is stripped from the player so that you can only complete a level exactly how the devs wanted you to for maximum IMMERSION.

Well I'm the OP, I'm on chapter 3 and I still haven't encountered any "mission fails" for going "off the rails".

The missions have very specific objectives and necessities. You meet up with Hosea and go to town, obviously if you stop following Hosea the mission will fail because that's, like, the entire point of the mission.

Then you have to kill some people. If you die or if Hosea dies the mission is also compromised. Alternatively if you abandon Hosea the mission also fails because he presumably gets caught. This is also comprehensible, right?

You retards always nitpick the 1% of unreasonable moments like the stupid horse saddling mission. Outside of that 1%, the game is fine.

The entire selling point of games like Hitman or MGS5 is that they are "simulators", and you have a very high degree of freedom to do the objective. On the other hand, they lack most of RDR2's features.

THERE’S A SNAKE IN MUH BOOT x20

wow very interesting scripted events rockstar. Even fucking STALKER and Spelunky has more emergent gameplay. You’re just more accepting of the bare minimum because it’s Kikestar and has nice graphics and animations. What the fuck do I care about the environment being reflected in a squirrels eye when I go down the road and see the same escaped prisoner for the 50th time? This is not even mentioning the garbage restrictive mission structure that’s even less engaging than their first 3D gta game 25 years ago.

these anons play games the same way they interact with AI chatbots the first time they released: they just throw shit on the ceiling and try to break it to the best of their ability, when it breaks they call it a shit game, if the game gives you a game over screen for trying to break ti they also call it a shit game, there is no winning with Anon Babble this place just hates videogames

i'll always not give a single fuck what Anon Babble says and thinks cuz you all are just bunch of fags

What the fuck do I care about the environment being reflected in a squirrels eye when I go down the road and see the same escaped prisoner for the 50th time?

Confirmed didn't play the game. Once you interact with a random event in any way, you'll never see it again. If you keep ignoring the prisoner of course you will see it 50 times, that's the game queuing you to interact with it at some capacity. Talk with the guard, talk with the prisoner, do SOMETHING.

The prisoner event is kinda counterintuitive because when most people see the police transporting a prisoner, their first reaction is to just move away and not interact with it. Of course if you do that in RDR2 you'll just see the event again and again. Eventually I interacted with it and learned that you can hear the prisoner's side of the story and decide whether to save them or not, but it's comprehensible that some anons didn't get it (then again if you see it 50 times you'd think at some point you'd try to do something different)

I don't speak pajeet

Once you interact with a random event in any way, you'll never see it again

That’s complete bullshit.

Theres a lot of good things about it. But the missions are almost all the same and at its retarded at so many times

It's true for almost all events but some of them can repeat, iirc the prisoner event isn't one of them, the ones that repeat are those that give you free stuff at stores like the snake bite event

Game is not even woke

Kek

protagonist is a manly white man

pretty much all relevant characters are white men

gang only has one token black

really what else do you want Anon Babble?

Have fun watching your movie. Did you make popcorn too?

I literally made some popcorn for this game and then found it's 99% gameplay, kinda bummed

GTA3 is better than this garbage

B-BUH IT DOESN'T HAVE MUH HORSE BALLS AND CRINGE GAY COWBOY STORY

Good

I actually liked Charles. Who you seemed to have forgotten about. All the white men in the gang are bad. You forgot about sadie who is the biggest mary sue and extremely annoying throughout.

The non-whites need to be on their best behavior and fall in line, lest they get kicked

The white men have their status ensured and thus permission can afford to chimp out

Game is pretty realistic

With that said there's plenty of cool white people in the gang like Hosea, Sean, Bill, and arguably Dutch

I too HATE when those dirty GAMERS take the wheel in a GAME they're playing!!

>just got legend of the east satchel

Everybody should stop the MQ at the beginning of CH2 and start focusing on this, coupled with some early Challenges camp events/upgrades and Trapper clothes. And while you're still at it why don't you start filling the Compendium with entries and working on your cores too? Doing Hosea's side quest ("Exit Pursued by Bruised Ego") that unlocks multiple outdoors mechanisms ASAP is advisable but not strictly mandatory.

Everything what you need can be found between Horseshoe Overlook and West Elizabeth (region to the W). Hell, the only reason you need to go the latter is the Cougar pelt needed for the top upgrades and the closest spot is in the Black Bone Forest. (There's a one-time random event for the Panther pelt not too far from the camp - reload if you didn't get a 3* one!)

tutorial mission meant to teach you a mechanic

it's literally a "go there and press button"

not doing it means failing the mission

Shocking, right? Especially that said mechanic has practical importance as well on top of the visuals.

My only problem with hunting is that if you want to complete it by chapters 2/3 you can't know where to find each animal without a guide

It feels like they aimed for it being an epilogue satchel, when it doesn't bring much value to the table

They could have placed a NPC that gives you tips on where to find the animals for a fee

I'm glad you're enjoying it but as a huge RDR1 enjoyer I think it's total dogshit.

starting chapter 3 now

You already screwed yourself, well done. Never continue playing the game

Are you 10 hours into it with 5 hours of cut scenes and like 5 hours of 'gameplay' that is mostly just riding from one point to another to start the next cut scene?
Gets pretty old after a while desu.

The game is downhill from Chapter 2 OP and I'm not talking about just the story. It's too long for its own good and gets boring. I've played the first game twice over and I can't even finish 2. The game puts me to sleep

suck a dick, soifaggot

you can't know where to find each animal without a guide

That's a legit complaint. I had no option but to look up the spawn points of big cats during my first run. Why? Since I wanted to restrict myself from spoiling regions that'll be covered in future chapters. Ironic, isn't it?

It feels like they aimed for it being an epilogue satchel

Yeah, there's also clear pattern which areas meant to be explored in each Chapter. The camp locations of the gang serve a good reference for this. Gobbling up content ASAP is not an optimal way of playing RDR2 despite the open world.

Sadie Adler ruins the game for me, and I'm not even joking. She's such a bad, forced character that her presence from Rhodes - onwards honestly just makes every other problem in the game disappear.

She's like if some soulless T2 exec found out that all the women in the gang were either prostitutes or permanently at the camp doing chores so he forced Rockstar to hamfist a badass strong woman into the game.

It gets worse and worse. There's a part towards the end where you're helping the strong womyn break someone out of prison and the game just hits a brick wall pacing wise. That and post boat crash I was literally screaming at the screen for the game to be over

Man you said the same thing I did. You literally sensed how forced her mission was.

I reflexively uninstalled and refunded when it asks for a rockstar account.

I just got done playing that mission where Trelawny took Strauss, Arthur and Javier to a boat to scam poker off of rich guys.

And it went well until Javier randomly shot the guard and the captain. Why did he do that? They already got a bunch of money, plus a watch. Why not just leave?

Everything about her is forced. Her missions, her place in the game, even her voice. No other woman in the game has an accent that thick.

They already got a bunch of money, plus a watch. Why not just leave?

The entire game is "just one more job" trope x 5. The interpersonal dialogue and bants is good. The actual plot is infantile

it completely ruins everything that made the first game fun, sure the world looks more real but that doesn't make up for ruining the wanted system and not having proper instances

Coping is off the charts.

wanted system is easily fixed with a mod

Game is best enjoyed just fucking around after ingesting an edible. The story is an agonizing slog and you've already got out of the game everything you're going to get

Why should I care about your juvenile impressionable mind, kiddo?

game is better on weed

Thats literally every single one, I can count with 1 hand the times I played sober in the last 10 years

NTA but the hot air balloon mission is a good example. I could tolerate her occasional recklessness (see the assault of Shady Belle) or Sadie making decisions for herself (see her new clothes) but that missions is probably the most glaring example of the "just because I says so" aura that surrounds her. Some things can be chalked up as plot device (like why can't you refuse the ride) but her outright changing the topic when Arthur confronts her about the death of the balloon operator - which is 100% on her - was infuriating. The whole mission was forced with 0 input from the player.

You don't even like her accent? That's her bottom line, so to speak. Even who vehemently dislike her tend to find her accent sexy or at least fitting for the character.

FULL METAL DAEMON MURAMASA
You may kneel now

essential NPCs

Don't make essential NPCs, faggot retard nigger :)

nooo why aren't you making open world survival crafting games!!!

Is that the only thing you can think of that doesn't have essential npcs, child?

Start listing the games with zero essential NPCs that you can't kill and that still have a 80h campaign

Waiting

Look OP, I don't think anyone is/was asking Rockstar to making Cowboy Deus Ex, but RDR2 is pretty clearly more restrictive in its mission design than even previous Rockstar games, with slow and lengthy animations that are slower and longer than in previous Rockstar games.
If you can just tolerate it then fine for you but it's obviously contentious and it shouldn't be complicated to understand why.

me to Anon Babble