Clair Obscure Expedition 33

Ok, let's see what this is about

Download the game on Game Pass

See Maelle for the first time

I Listen to OST once people get snapped, wow

Go to Steam and i purchase the deluxe edition

Do an hour long quest to get swimwuit for Lune

Buys baguette clothes for Maelle from random vendor

Ok anons, this game is a masterpiece

can it be easily pirated it? everyone is recommending it, but I don't wanna fall for shill bait

all the cope to say you're a poorfag

Yes, you can pirate it.

Do we stop making fun of the French now?

I'm getting filtered by the tight parry windows from some enemies.

Shill thread methinks.

sick.

I think the same, thoughbeit

No.
t. french

No, your jealousy is highly amusing to us.

Based and baguettepilled.

it's legit not that good, i feel like people are going insane or have not played more than 3 games in their entire life

haha yeah man i browse reddi too

Love my nigga Esquie

I don't care about the game but that girl is drawn pretty, especially the shoulders

can it be easily pirated it?

Yes, In fact I got it pirated, bought it after beating it because it reminded me of Lost Odyssey

Take a bath

Do we stop making fun of the French now?

The OST goes so fucking hard.
youtube.com/watch?v=_v4tyAoohCE
Still blows my mind that some random frog team just dropped the best Final Fantasy game in a decade.

real lives 2007.gif

I pirated it. It's good. I wouldn't call it a 10/10 game. If you're an old man with arthritis you won't enjoy real-time combat elements and if you're an ADHD-afflicted zoomer you won't enjoy turn-based combat period, but arguing that the game isn't good is retarded, it's really well-made, well-written, and has excellent visuals (wish it didn't stutter occasionally when I used DLSS on ultra though).

Forgotten Battlefield

it's kino time

I refuse to believe that people genuinely love this game. It is the most average, milquetoast trash I have seen in years. Is there just some huge marketing campaign ongoing with influencers and bots or something? This shit makes zero sense to me and I love RPGs.

sounds like youre coping with the fact that you payed money for it

This has to be a shill. This game is peak Eurojank with a generic YA novel wrapping.

Ehh, it probably sounds better ingame that middle part is yikes

the game fully embraces their own cringe

You lost, tendie. Get over it.

“Final Fantasy game”

HELLO SARR PLEASE BUY

I genuinely do not understand people who think this game is good by any metric. It is average made manifest.

"Writers could be here" she thought, "I've never been in this painting before. There could be writers anywhere." The cool wind felt good against her bare chest. "I HATE WRITERS" she thought. Une Vie à t'aimer reverberated Esquie, making it pulsate even as the 9 chroma picto circulated through her powerful thick veins and washed away her (merited) fear of writers after dark. "With Esquie, you can go anywhere you want" she said to herself, out loud.

generic YA novel wrapping

the young teenager girl protagonist is stupid and wrong and daddy is right

lol

I don't understand how you like the taste of cock.

I have no mouth and I must Scream

CLEA DON'T SAY IT

AHEM
FUCK WRIGGERS

I don’t understand how you can live off five cents a post, but here we are.

HUH, ALL PEOPLE OF LITERACY OR WRITERS AS I LIKE TO CALL THEM, GET OFF THIS PAINTING BECAUSE IT'S FOR PAINTERS ONLY, UNDERSTAND,

They deserved better :(

You lost, tendie

Tranny I prefer Nintendo games over whatever slop snoyny might shit out nowadays thanks to Jimmy's live service games bet, and I loved playing thru this game.

why today of all days to shill it non-stop? the game's been out for a while

French woman jumpscare

this sounds like fucking royalty free youtube ad music for a resort or hotel wtf

I kinda wonder, for how long do you think she must have kept doing this? Verso almost looks older, for all we know the scene we sees is 60 years after in the painting, and she's still playing make believe

GIVE ME THE CASINO SONG I BEG OF YOU I NEED IT TO ACTUALLY GAMBLE

youtube.com/watch?v=IunbXWab1_Y

cope and seethe, game's great and shills itself

I thought he was talking to Verso or Maelle here

He's actually talking to the real Renoir and him sympathizing with his love for his family

they actually used a lot of paid/found 3D assets online to save time and budget

Very rare case of this function used well and not abused, unreal engine can do good when well used

There must be some sort of true ending, has anyone tried going through on NG+ yet to see if it changes anything? Or beating all the superbosses or something

look at this poor optimist and laugh

The variety of battle themes is impressive. It's like the exact opposite of when I first played Persona 5 and every single fight was 'YOU'LL NEVER SEE IT COMING' in every goddamn area for nearly every goddamn enemy

Anon it's a french creation, they almost always do sad as shit ending with characters who are miserable, they like to put even their negative emotions and feelings in what they create

same as the oblivion remake, but in that one you can clearly tell which assets are bought and which are made by the remaster devs, since the dev made ones look like complete ass.

Maelle was also handled a whole lot better than Maruki. Atlus has zero fucking subtlety whatsoever

well, the other ending is the true ending, the family accepts the death of Verso like actual adults. Though I wonder if Alicia couldn't just recreate the painting, just without a part of versos soul this time

Weird, Virtuos usually only provide their own assets and are a very professional studio to work with, it must have being a choice of the Bethesda part

See Maelle for the first time

I guess it's a Ship of Theseus thing, could it be a perfect recreation? even if it is, it's not the same.
if someone clone you, even perfectly and with the same memories, it's still technically a different person

Bethesda clearly wanted it cheap as fuck, that's why they remade shitlibvion in the first place, generic as fuck setting so they can easily find premade assets for it.

Trying to hit the next milestone probably. It's a team effort. Or maybe they're contracted for a (x) number of days.

I'm french, Maelle actually looks like a girl I knew when I was her age, it's a bit uncanny

Yes sarrr FRPG is best Japanese Role Playing Game!

This is what I thought when I saw it pop up in the Steam store. It looks like a Sony QTE-fest non-game: UbiShit edition. Having turn-based shit, some Soulsfag shit in the same game sounds awful. I'm tempted to pirate it, but it looks like a 300GB monstrosity of mediocrity.

You can't make me dislike this game, Anon Babble. No amount it TORtanic wishful thinking will make it shit. Get a new hobby, you worthlelsss fucking shitstains.

are people really surprised french people like RPGs? Dragon Quest has being known here for decades, one of the most popular french game is a turn based game (Dofus)

Flying waters is kino

Yeah that ending is way better than the other one but goddamn it I want a best of both worlds situation

Also I want a sequel with Clea vs the writers guild

for me it's Francois

It took you a fucking hour to beat the parkour course?

Bro it’s a fucking QTE mobile game with some pretentious non story on top lmao

I'm a pretentious twat that sucks cock

Francois is literally me I am misremembering but was the person he loved Clea? I guess both love to be miserable and pissed

finished it earlier today, I really want to say bad things about it but I have to admit it was really good.

only thing I really hated was the character interactions and the "social links", my god they are so insufferable in those

speaking of dofus, there is a roguelike out next week set in the same universe, ankama finall expanding their brand, took them long enough to realize the wakfu setting is a goldmine.

The game reminded me of pic related in the best way possible

non

Get it on xbox gamepass, or just look at the regular spots.

The characters even look like they’re from fucking Forspoken or that other slop game forgotten seven or whatever. Do people just think this is deep because it’s made by French people or something?

technically they already have done a few spin off since the 2000s, they just were not popular.
and there's also all the books, though I believe they all have ended (the Dofus Manfra kept going for 20 years though there's respect in that)

I am willing to stop calling France a ****hole for the next few years. They earned it

I love how they actually called those outfits "Baguette", fully aware of how stereotypically french some parts of the game are.

WI WI *cough cough* I mean... Yeah, totally. Haha.

I miss them, bros. Why did a whole world have to die just because two french women were mentally ill?

Know a good website? The SteamRip download isn't working for me for some reason

unlike some other groups, french people love to joke on stereotypes or even play them. In all groups.
As an example, there's a part of gay person who deliberately act extremely effeminate, and call themselves "les folles" (feminine term of "the crazies")
People just like to express their extremes, good and bad.
One thing funny though, many people will shit on the country, but the moment a foreigner try to shit on it suddenly they becomes very defensive kek

Absolutely love it. They seem very self-aware of just how "French" the game is for us non-frogs.

Women ruin everything.

maelle gets an ability that reduces her hp to 1 but gives her max ap for the cost of 1 ap

verso also gets something similar but it costs 6ap for whatever fucking reason

a ton of really strong luminas when under 50% hp

well this was probably the easiest ive ever had with breaking an rpg

ChatGPT going hard itt

How the fuck do you switch party members? Just got Verso and it still won't allow me to put Sciel into the party from the party menu.

in act 3 the game deliberately want you to abuse the systems, there's even one picto that's literally called "cheater" that's insanely good

anon you just need to remove a party member and then add one, I think it's the E key if you are on PC

Do people just think this is deep because it’s made by French people or something?

It's not Wittgenstein, Derrida, or Kant deep, but it definitely depicts some interesting philosophical and meta concepts in a very satisfying narrative.
I feel like a lot of people who would absolutely love the game are not giving it a chance, solely to be contrarians towards the new popular thing.

This game if you are french/speak french literally has an additional enjoyment out of the experience, many lyrics have very important story elements, many characters, terms and enemies name are direct references to french culture, some being pretty obscure

yeah i figure, i just entered the monolith for the first time and i imagine im close to getting the lumina that uncaps damage, everyone is consistently doing 9999 non crits with multihits

I have played the game and it has the depth of a puddle.

Lune best girl

it's about time that the whole world is made to speak the same language so we don't miss these tidbits

Renoir did nothing wrong, not in a meme way, he genuinely, 100%, did nothing wrong and wanted his family to survive the grieving

It's really not worth using those unless you wanna set off some critical health builds. Once you get the +1 AP on parry picto, and use Either Sciel or Verso (or both) then AP generation on your DPS stops becoming an issue.

Star Trek tier universal comunicators with tidbit functionality will become a reality in our lifetimes.

Yeah you reach that sort of damage around the halfway point, you’re going to need every advantage you can get for the superboss anyway, and forget about the moves that set your HP to 1 because they have a move that does that anyway and it doesn’t even use a turn

good for general stuff, worthless for regional dialects with more complicated expressions

Indeed, and he is set up as that big evil old guy immediately from the start, playing up to the tropes. Umineko, the visual novel, has a lot of overlapping themes, plot points and ideas with this but they are executed much more poorly and the big old evil bastard stays true to his evil nature up to the end

kinda wonder how Silent Hill f will be, I'm also waiting on that game for some unique story and visuals
this year is a good year as a gamer

I obviously disagree, but "depth" in media is an intrinsically subjective idea so there's that.
In which ways do you think it failed in that regard?

I used to
But I realized that hating France is a safe edgy redditor thing

I dont mind the game not showing you the minimap to hide the linear dungeons but please for the love of god, navigating through the Gestral village is an actual pain in the ass.

This game is mediocre and insanely overhyped

it's mostly a US thing after the irak war refusal in truth, it existed before but it was more subdued. It just is spread to every other nations due to the internet being mostly US centric

Act II ending

holy CINEMA

A question I have is do Painters go insane if they stay within a Canvas for too long like going drunk on godlike powers or was it just a family failing to go through the grief process.

Paternity tests are illegal in France so no, the mockery will continue.

A bit of both I think, morbid escapism is a hell of a drug.
it's not supernatural though, escapism like this can be done IRL, even if there's of course limitations.
The mind when trying to cope can create some very strange, and sometimes, much worse situations than initially.

It's a very human story in the end, even if there's supernatural elements

No, you full on die if you stay in too long. At minimum you’ll get sick/weak and have to recover before you can hop into a canvas again

I didn't realize how invested I was until finishing Act 1. Turned the game off and walked outdoors for an hour. Wasn't expecting to get get punched that hard lol. Fearing the end of Act 2.

Enjoying comfy adventure with french chicks starring Charlie Cox.

Get to the end of Act 1.

Unfortunately I'm now burdened to deal with more affordable English actor known as Benjamin Starr

Talk about downgrade.

They hamfisted that shit and I made sure to ignore it. Idk why they even added a half baked romance shit
I can find some others things acceptable but that shit was pure unforgiveable sin

Ben Starr is a god tier VA at least
Charlie Cox did surprisingly good at his first video game role though, even if he has a few flat combat lines

It's "Cinéma absolu" for you, pleb

why can't fashion trends like this ever come back, instead we have the fucking 90s again, fuck zoomers and their shitty taste in fashion.

Download the game on Game Pa

literally

Yeah, hopefully when the Marvel work dries up he decides he wants to do more voice acting gigs.
Dude does well just voicing a charming dude you wanna like.

No, but they've earned a few off-days.

Anons said there are builds that take advantage of being hit. I imagine it might take a while though.

all these status debuffs and skill synergies are overwhelming as fuck

I wish too but unfortunately it's probably considering too expensive (it's not actually expensive depending on the materials but people think it is)
I mean you still are free to larp if you want but yeah people would judge you, even more if you are a guy

Just leaving this here for anyone getting filtered by the parries later on in the game. For some reason the windows are even tighter than sekiro deflects, which makes even the tiniest slip up feel like it's the games fault.
nexusmods.com/clairobscurexpedition33/mods/28

I had a lot of issues at first, and even a bit now, but ultimately you do start getting used to it
you really need to NOT panic parries, those rarely work. dodge are good too, they offer a bigger window and can offers AP with a few capacities

Normal and Expert are the exact same

God fucking damn it I knew something was off about the timings for Normal

Is there just some huge marketing campaign ongoing with influencers and bots or something

You cracked the code. Its publisher is funded by NetEase, one of China's biggest gaming companies.

this mod saved the game for me, 'slightly easier' made it playable

seriously the parry window in this game is really fucking shitty by default, idk what they were thinking

He has 2 different deliveries of the sentence "For those who come after" when using the Overcharge ability, one of them is much louder and more powerfully delivered than the usual one and I feel they made it that way because of how well he did that line.

people very much love hard game these days, it's rarer to see easier games

There are some later bosses that force you to parry consecutively twenty times in a row before its your turn. They had a good rhythm in the early game but it does start asking a bit too much in playing perfect unless you spec builds specifically into countering

escapism like this can be done IRL

I like getting on VRChat for this

300GB Monstrosity.

It's 41gbs

you sound like a fucking moron if I'm being completely honest

I got through Old Lumiere, went back and fought the boss there and that's the first time since the start of the game where I felt like I couldn't parry anything. I ended up just dodging. The boss buckbroke me. The boss makes 2 copies of itself and I got so tired of dodging 7 times and avoiding becoming frozen every time it was their turn. Jesus Christ. All the side content so far makes the main game feel like I'm playing on story mode.

You don't need the additional damage parrying gives you.

my good man, I've played hardcore parryslop for hundreds of hours, namely sekiro and nioh 2

even those games don't come close to the timing required for the parries in this title, which is frankly quite absurd considering the genre

sekiro is forgiving my comparison

Many people use the internet to escape this way, VR or not. it can be very unhealthy but it's not to mock, it's something very much sad.
There has to be limit, unlimited escapism is just you ignoring all issues and a way to ruin your mind, it can really fuck you up

No but you do need to parry the expedition attacks or you wipe after one slip up eight turns in

watch one E33 video

suddenly my homepage is bombarded by countless E33 vids

What the fuck is happening?

seriously the parry window in this game is really fucking shitty by default, idk what they were thinking

"git gud" would be my estimation.

oh I understand you too, I don't think I'll do some of the harder bonus fight of Clair Obscur because it's simply too hard for me. maybe younger me could have handled this better. I'm not as good as I used to be...

You can just dodge them

For some reason the windows are even tighter than sekiro deflects

Sekiro has one of the easiest parry timings in all of gaming. Although I agree the window in this game is way, way too small considering from what I've played you're basically required to perfectly time 95% of your parries/dodges or you lose.

I think it's made on purpose to not make parry so overpowered that it just completely overtake the turn based and strategy aspect
You can very much go from near annihilation of your time to winning in this game which is very cool

What the fuck is happening?

Word of mouth + the algorithm. People who search the game are searching other vids for the game, and youtube thinks that you think like those people.

Well yeah
But then you don't look as cool

Try not to le Gommage yourself, old man

The signs were all there to begin with desu.

Skill tree had more locked compared to the rest of the party members

Famous VA

Ben Starr on the voice cast

I honestly sorta give them credit for how they make you go long enough just to second guess yourself on if he'll actually stick around for the long run or not.

Nah, I'm too much of a cockroach for that, even the gommage would not kill me

Parry setting to "slightly easier"

I also turned off the QTE's, turned off the camera shake effect, and turned off the camera movements.

Once all that retarded shit was toned down, I started to enjoy the game a lot more. The narrative/artwork/music/level design/enemy design are all really excellent, but the gameplay by default felt like a nasty chore.

Thank fuck for modders.

yeah, I think that's what is going on, but it just feels shitty and awkward getting constantly 'gotcha!'d' by delay attacks/bursts

Beat it.
First game in a long time to make me cry bitch tears.

Only three games made me cry.

Super Paper Mario when I was an edgy emotional teen
Trails in the Sky 3rd
And now Expedition 33

This game was always on my radar since the moment I saw the trailer as it's right up my alley, but I didn't expect it to blow me away like this.
10/10. Have to think where in my top 10 it'd fall. And I'm fucking 34 and have played hundreds upon hundreds of games.

I wonder, are the locked skills fake skills, or are they for NG+ only?

I thought he was gonna unlock more moves with new prosthetics like Nero

Do the QTE's on attacks ever become anything more than "press X at the right time"? I'm seriously thinking of turning them off as well.

Sciel confused and reaching out for Verso

Lune sitting down and accepting her fate as she stares him down

Poor french ladies

It was actually his weapons having no abilities that made me suspicious.

No

As someone who keeps trying to escape my life due to how bad it is, that game really fuck me up alright, tailored specifically for my mind kek

Good luck, anon

Can you rearrange how your party members stand from left/right somehow? Not only is it an autism thing but it seems like your shots actively aim based on how the character is standing as there are weakspots I could just never hit as the guy on the left but the right and middle guys could land it so I'd be cool to have my designated shooter build character stand in the right spot.

First game in a long time to make me cry bitch tears

That's the french for you. They can get you right in the feels when you least expect it. Only the japanese come close to understanding how to evoke emotions in media anymore.

Thanks anon
I'm more like Aline, I know how unhealthy it is and how it only makes things worse, but I keep doing it regardless

Ending spoiler
What retard chooses Maelle's side?

Yeah that's another thing you could pick up on that makes sense once you know. Given most people will see him bow out around 5-7 hours on an average playthrough. It's still in the safe spot of just assuming his gimmick is that he's got no weapon abilities, or skill unlocks until major narrative milestones and the party caries.

STOP.

IF YOU ARE STILL PLAYING THIS GAME AND HAVEN'T BEAT IT YET, IMMEDIATELY LEAVE Anon Babble.

DO NOT GET SPOILED.

LEAVE NOW. YOU ARE MISSING NOTHING BY BEING HERE. YOU WILL RUIN THE GAME IF YOU GET SPOILED.

LEAVE NOW.

French people and Japanese people are very close for a reason. Both culture insanely respect each others. Not just historically even even now. there's many french people who work in Japan and japanese people doing collabs with frenchies

it's by order you add them to the combat party in the menu screen. leftmost dude is the first you add to party, middle is second, right is last.

It's awful, literally some Narnia spy kids immortals of avenue shit

I really wish there was a third option between erase the world and kill everyone and they all live as Alicia's playthings

Genuinely this, I did my best to not visit any board to play the game, the only spoil I had was two songs and even then I lacked the context

I'm so happy I did spoil the end of act 1 for myself. What a gutpunch

youtube.com/watch?v=OCJgw8UIONY

if Maelle was more mature, a third option could happen, in fact, it's what Verso wanted first, her leaving but returning from time to time, the world staying alive.
He finally decided to erase it when he realized that she lied and she would not come back to the real world. He decided to sacrifice the entire world and himself for her sake.

This.
This is the first time coming onto Anon Babble since it came out, even with the site coming back to life.
Thank god I wasn't spoiled. Absoutely fucking kino story. It helps that stories about this topic always get to me.

So why the fuck did alene paint renwah and verso normal, but made alicia monochrome and disfigured

Oh fuck you, I'm going
People are clearly wrapping it up and I'm just going to fuck myself if I stay, like I always do
I'm going I'm going

I was so mad with Verso near the end as he looked lost and confused in the whole final confrontation.
Then he sees Aline dying from the painting and it's like a fucking lightbulb comes on over his head and he became absolutely the fucking hero Alicia needed.

She resented Alicia for what happened. Still all her creations have free will to do what they want though, she does what she does to grieve but she never really lose control of her mind. She's just a very sad and desperate old woman
Notice how the scars are worse on painted Alicia than her actual self. I think Aline also blamed herself but couldn't admit it.

How did you feel about the switch from the expedition to focusing on the Dessandre family as the main crux of the plot?

litter.catbox.moe/t7417q.mp3
whats this song called i think i might be retarded i cant find it on the OST videos they uploaded

Verso in the last act looks like pure shit, it's like he knows he must die but his mind is in constant conflict. the only one who knows about how he feels are Monoco and Esquie, who ultimately support him like giant bros to the end.

Verso died saving Alicia, and it's heavily implied Alicia did something stupid and naive to get her into a position that needed saving from the fire. So her mother blames her for her son's death. The scarred face is just a metaphor for her resentment of Alicia.

It's not only for Maelle's sake, he's made it very clear he's tried of living, and even the fragment of his soul wants to stop painting.

I liked it, the expedition plot was really cool too, but I like more personal stories

The Verso/Esquie/Monoco bromance was so good.

Can I play the game on a toaster if I turn all the next gen meme settings off?

Oh yeah it's also for him, and his fragment. But I think he was okay to suffer if Maelle was happy, as long it was still healthy. Ultimately he cared about her like she was his real sister. A good big brother will sacrifice his all

Esquie and Francois represent the relationship between young Verso and his big sister

it was fine, honestly the expedition storyline was kinda worn out around the start of act 2 (ok, we just go kill the paintress and thats it), but the family plot didn't really start until the end of act 2, meaning most of act 2 was just kinda meandering and filler.

At first I was disappointed as it was kind of predictable, but then it won me over and by the end I loved it.

Une Vie à T'aimer if you understand the lyric isn't an epic song anymore but actually is a duet about Renoir and Aline loving each others despite their conflict

Aline ask Renoir to stop loving her, Renoir says he will love her forever

Both ask each others to "stop painting" and express their sadness in the entire song of how things got out of control and remembering Verso

jesus

Renoir is based

Verso is based

Esquie is based

Monaco is based

Gustave is based

French guys are prety cool. Very mentally stable too

lmao this nigga speak french

that's maybe my main gripe with the story, the expedition members end up being mindless pawns once the game makes you take part in the personal family conflict
they've just learned this whole world isn't "real" and they've been created by a being from a higher plane of existence, how come do they not feel any anguish or existential crisis?

I wouldn't say Renoir or Verso are mentally stable, especially Renoir, he just hide it very well but he's probably barely holding on

Basically the entire story is the men being reasonable and the women being crazy.
Sciel and Lune are okay. You can tell even the devs were kind of worried about them falling off later as they had those weird 'badass' moments killing off the Axons.

Destined to oblivion or a teenagers plaything, a horrifying existence either way.

The game is surprisingly pretty.

Actually Crea is cool too but she's kind of a bitch.

it's nothing about genders, it's a story about broken people failing to grief and hurting each others.

It's funny to make it about gender. Maelle's a fucking amazing character, just having a laugh.
Renoir did nothing wrong though.
I was getting upset near the end listening to him spout facts and thinking the game wouldn't let me side with him. Then Verso steps the fuck up.

how the fuck did this nigga die on the 33rd of december

fake Renoir goal is literally the same as Renoir, just on the canvas side

He probably felt horrible killing all those people he's fighting to protect

in the end he accept his death with the real Renoir since he understand his view too

Wait wait wait.
Do Verso and Sciel always hook up? Or can you 'pick' Lune?
I got to the last point for Lune and she straight up says she'd have romanced Verso if not for him playing around with Sciel.

I bet a lot of people use Anon Babble as escapism because they're losers in the real life.

"Don't worry I hid the painting! Mom will never find it!"

she shows up again 5 minutes later

Granted time moves diferently between the two world but that was pretty funny

I love how they went SRW on the final bosses, I love an actual SUNG song as the final boss theme.

Yeah, you actually romance her if you don't romance Sciel
The game greatly implies that Sciel is mostly doing this to cope with the death of her husband she still loves, and her baby, it's not very healthy.

Oh shit I missed that. Was only looking at the year.
I like it, reinforces how the "real" world is still very different from our own

honestly I doubt it. I no way fag'd sciel the first time she tried to fuck but the game acted like I still fucked her during the next social link.

the real world is still Paris and not Lumière though, trying to leave in the Epilogue directly name drop the city and the OST also is named a "A 33 december in Paris"

The cunty sister does say that their Mom will find it almost immediately even though it was a good hiding spot

He says " I love them too" to the curator before dying

He knew the curator was the real renoir from the start

Listen to what he says to the curator before this, it will blow your mind and completely change the context

just beat sirene dungeon and boss fight, it was a masterclass in design, really fucking impressive, most impressive boss up till now.

Just to confirm, this part from the trailer is fake, right? I kept waiting for this fight to happen and it never did.

God fucking damn it.

LET THIS BE A LESSON TO EVERYONE. SHOOT DOWN SCIEL AT ANY ATTEMPT YOU CAN. VERSO IS NOTHING BUT A COPING MECHANISM FOR YOU. I REPEAT, CHOOSE THE ASIAN PUSSY.
For me Lune hates Verso most of the time but she only opens up near the end so I fucked up.

Not that it matters anyway after the ending lol

either cut content or fake content, or sometime stuff made for trailers, this happens frequently

That specific mob that early? Yeah but he does exist.

that enemy is a lategame enemy but the area looks like one of the first ones, probably just a late dev shuffle of enemies

the way Lune looks at you in the ending AFTER romancing her is extra painful, imagine how betrayed she must feel.

Yeah not only is she erased, but Lune looks like she fucking hates Verso as she dies. I don't blame her, they spent all that time and energy trying to save the painted world and then he turns around and ends them all.

FOR THOSE WHO COME AFTER

I was not expecting that raw sit down. That stare god damn.

Lune constantly also has trust issues and feels betrayed by Verso at the start of act 3, imagine him doing all this work to regain her trust, her ended up loving him, only for him to betray her in the end and basically killing her. jesus.

Clea is the only actual intelligent person in the family and she's the strongest since she's the only person in the family that can paint over someone.

name a better game

She also hate writers so she's based

so intelligent yet she doesn't have the common sense to not be a cunt to her last remaining sibling

Clea is probably a big reason why the family fell apart like that. Bitch does not seem to give a fuck about any of them. She talks about getting them out of the painting like it's a chore.

That's why I can't stand that he gets romance option
Verso withholds so much critical info that he is in my opinion an antagonist

Best girl. Fuck pencils and fuck words.

t. maelle

Brother the dude is probably the sexiest male character of 2025. It's insane those two took as long as they did to try hopping his dick.

The big reason was Alicia herself for being tricked by the writers. The family wouldnt fell apart if the housefire didnt happen.

How did a bunch of living brushes/dolls with a collective IQ of 5 manage to survive better than

Maelle shit on Verso for wanting to change Alicia's fate and not leaving her to die

Maelle then doesn't allow Verso to die and him choosing his own fate.

It's like poetry

Anon got gommaged

Golgra hard carried them.
Not even a meme.

I have way too much expectations going in and I got disappointed.
The first thing breaking me is the NPC running fast as well away from you, it looks really ridiculous.
The second thing is all those unknown terms being thrown to you expecting you to just accept it reminds me of FF13 that just dumps a bunch of lores to confuse you at the beginning.
The third thing is that they killed a girl and a bunch of NPCs that I don't even know and expect me to feel bad for it.
So that's 3 strikes and out.

The so called "innovation" of turn based combat is just QTE.
And that disappointed me too.

bro where the FUCK do I go in act 3 if I want to do side stuff instead of finishing the game? everything is just killing me in one hit except the first 2 fights in the endless tower but then even the 3rd one insta kills me.

I wanted to romance Monoco...

The second thing is all those unknown terms being thrown to you expecting you to just accept it

if you werent completely retarded youd be able to figure out what they mean by yourself

In the end she really was a selfish little girl. There's no way she'd ever be able to moderate her time with the painting and her father knew that. His goodbye is so solemn. He knows he's lost and is sending her to her death.

literally immortal

strong

painted by the child unlike pesky human drawn by his parents

you do not romance your dog.

Clea attempted to fix things by juicing up Simon but that didn't work since he got sealed away.

you can do postgame after beating the game, dont worry about it

The Virgin Writer

The Gigachad Painter

There's too much customization. My pea brain can't handle this.

Lmao nigga go paint your dead son then

Do Maelle's camp conversations until the other tower unlocks. That's one of th eeasier areas in act 3

The nevrons are Clea's pets as well. The chroma of the people who get killed by the nevros get stuck in their petrified corpses, preventing it to come back to the paintress, weakening her.

wew each family member somewhat represents each stage of grief

the mother: denial, retreats into her sons canvas to recreate her family

Clea: anger, frustration that she has to pick up the pieces of their parents becoming trapped in the canvas and keeping an eye on Alicia

Alicia/Maelle: bargaining, thrust into the midst of multiple failings of her family she begs to keep the canvas alive if only so she can live a semi-normal life with her brother

Verso: depression, or a rather inverted take on it as he already knows that his existence and choices he made and what must be done to save Alicia again weigh heavy on him

Renoir: acceptance, understands that his son has passed and he must destroy the last remnant if he is to save what is left of his family

just wait for the true gigachads in the next game, italian sculptors

Check it out guys! Victor Hugo and Monet are beating the shit out of each other again!

I feels like the story almost want you to forget that Maelle is far more immature that she actually think she is, until the last moment.
I think that's why some people picked the Maelle ending, they thought she was mature enough, but the power she got probably only made things worse for her.
So yeah Renoir was right, even if his methods were extreme, even he admits it, the situation required something drastic because it wasn't possible for it to end happily anymore. It was the best that could be done.

The big three families

The wriggers

The Painters

And the most powerful of the three.. The MUSICIANS !

Are you guys playing the game in French? I highly recommend it, and lot of the dialog especially for the brush dudes is 100% written for their comical french accents

it's on fit girl so yes

i dont buy any game with too many DEI niggers in them on principle.

musicians

most powerful

This is what I'm supposed to be afraid of
youtube.com/watch?v=pct1uEhAqBQ

Aline theme song pretty much says that she isn't actually in denial, she knows what she is doing (I mean she says it too in her boss fight), she knows she's fucking up her life, possibly to leading to her own death. She just can't deal with it anymore and despair. She's basically a suicidal person. She wanted to die alone in the canvas with her illusions, even if she knows it wasn't real and unhealthy, so that herself and her real family doesn't suffer.

main character who dual wields a sword/gun and has a robot hand that shoots lightning gets replaced by a guy who dual wields white/black swords, does a bunch of anime quickdraw moves and literally has a style meter

pierre was pretty mad about how DMC5 handled dante vs nero, huh?

kino

LMAO so the theory that they are works of in universe fiction living in a decaying painting turned out to be true

more like the voice acting budget was running out and he needed to ditch the hollywood star

French have always made good games and animation
Ubisoft used to too

DO NOT TALK ABOUT VIDEO GAMES

I love my entire family

I just want to protect my wife and all two of my children

ubisoft still makes good games but they arent allowed to deviate in any way from the checklist their boss forces on them which in turn makes almost all their releases unfun

Latest Prince of persia was good too

Ubisoft smaller studios still does good shit, it's the big studios that does the mediocre one.
though the smaller studios are barely talked anymore, they should rebrand them as another name than Ubisoft even if they keep owning them, probably would do them some good

Once Maelle gets her painter power back she definitely begins to feel like she's 'too' in control. The scene where Verso is pissed at her for killing Alicia without his say so was a big moment IMO that really set up her immaturity. She started to stutter and trip the moment her partner started to doubt and be angry with her.
Seeing that loop around to the ending and their climactic conflict was rewarding as hell. Glad I did all the story side quest stuff before ending the game.

fuck it, give all the European countries some fucked up world-bending magic

British bioengineers

German mechanists

Russian necromancers

etc.

Literally did nothing wrong.

american fastfoodmancers

The scene where Verso is pissed at her for killing Alicia without his say so was a big moment IMO that really set up her immaturity.

Okay well Verso killed everyone without their consent so fuck him. Maelle even brings this up and he just says "Uh it's different."

the WW1 sequel is going to be insane

the real Verso, well, the fragment of him, who created the world, said himself he was tired and it was basically torture to continue painting, and Maelle also clearly was going to stay there infinitely, Verso did what he had to do to save his sister. He died for her, just like his real self.

Russians use communist inframaterism to make beliefs real

Verse is the cause of everyones grief both in and out. If only he was less of a bitch there would be a happy ending.

what exactly is left for Alicia in the real world apart from living the NEET life

do you think he should just have let his sister dying then?
Both the real and fake Verso died for her sake

Helping her sister with the war.

He should let her live in the cool fantasy world where she can do whatever she wants.

shut the fuck up Clea you act like a sociopath

I like how unapologetically French this game is. We really need more games with strong cultural influences outside of Japan and America. I want a CD Projekt game that is super Polish and a Larian game that is super Belgian.

Painting, her voice possibly can get better too, she's a creative person, she also can move without much issues and isn't handicapped, even if she burned. there's still a future for her. she's not completely crippled, beside by her own mind.

As is the case of every game that gets this level of hype.

The writers coming to death note her and the rest of her family

you're getting the fuck out of the painting, woman

And i wouldn't need to if it's actually well written.
I'm already having major cringe from some of the dialogues. I'm not gonna waste my time on a bad game.
I completely forgot that what really breaks me in the end is the empty hallway with nothing interesting aside of environment made with asset stores looking shits.

Do you think Maelle gets pissed when other people calls her Alicia in the real world?

try frozen hearts or reacher.

It LITERALLY kills you staying in the painting.

This isn't a debate, Verso is the good ending and Maelle is the bad one.

She can create her own paintings where presumably she won't get the desire to stay indefinitely.

Witcher is actually really polish influenced, more than people realize.
Larian though...huh...does Belgium even has a big culture that's not taking part of others? I honestly have no idea.

Who fucking cares?? The passage of time feels the same inside of the Canvs, so Maelles mom was really able to live LONGER than she normally would outside of the painting.

here's all these beautiful worlds you can paint

oh btw your junkie ass will never be allowed within one of them so you will remain the cripple you were meant to be

literal torture

It must be extremely weird either way. She's lived as long as Maelle as she had Alicia.

I don’t get it, the story is Verso’s canvas contained the Gestral’s and the yeti people, then the parents entered the canvas 67 years before the events of the game (the year of the fracture), and Aline created the humans, hence why Renault is trying to erase them all but leaving the other species alone. Yet the humans clearly have history from before the fracture, and Verso mentions doing stuff pre fracture. Is this just implanted histories and Verso lying? I’m pretty sure some of of the Gestral’s mention hanging out with humans before the fracture as well

If she becomes a more mature person, I doubt she will stay a junkie to escapism.
at least I hope so.
... even when you get older that thing can never go away to some ...
But there's always a possibility of good things.

It's better than pretending everything is fine when you are playing the world biggest sessions of Sims as your life, while everyone is forced to play their roles even if they hates it.

Correct answer, anon.

she's really fucked either way. If her voice and face don't get better I don't see the temptation ever going away. Apart from Renoir her actual family don't seem to like her very much either.

In fact, logically, couldn't Aline actually be several hundred years old? It's not like Remoire jumped into the Canvas immediately after Aline did, right? And the passage of time is way faster, so Aline really shouldve been able to spend a lot of time in the Canvas before Remoire stepped in. The whole "it will kill Maelle!" thing really just has no meaning when you can live that long in the painting.

dlc let's you see what one of Alicia's painting worlds looks like

it's just a fucked up mario 64 level

Other people visited the painting before Verso's death. Humans already existed here too.
the real Renoir only killed humans as a way to push them to beat the paintress, I think he also himself created the expedition members.
it's just a theory but I think the remaining years, in truth, we not just for the humans life, but also the remaining years before Aline dying in the real world.

Her mother and sister honestly ruined everything blaming and accusing her so much.

She and Alicia should be friends

make that days, Aline was only in the painting for a couple of weeks

Logically there should've been a good amount of time where Aline and Verso could just hang out in Lumiwhatever before daddy said times up.

Aline entered first and painted Verso, Renoir, Alicia and Lumiere to cope. Real Renoir came after trying to get her out of it and caused fracture. He also painted all the current Lumiere and expeditions members. Clea was there from time to time. Original Verso created canvas and entire family played there with all the creatures.

I don't think real Renoir ever killed any humans? The one you see most of the game is just some copy made up by Aline. The Curator is Renoir all along and he doesn't kill anyone.

exactly, Renoir might have been your stereotypical busy neglectful parent so her closest connection was most likely Verso. The same Verso Clea never lets her forget she got killed. Also Aline's fanfic had her die in the fire instead which is just fucked up.

game with French women

You son of a bitch I'm in

Just get it from fitgirl like everyone else

She's not used to being rejected

Damn, Sciel is a slut

Aline isn't the one doing the gommage, it's Renoir. her writing on the monolith a clumsy warning on her part to others.

She did say that neither she or her husband were perfect...

Oh right yeah that's just him erasing the painting.

I remember the game explicitly explaining it
renoir is the one responsible for the gommage, alene has the least control over her oldest creations
the paintress puts up the number as a warning of how old the people renoir is going to gommage next

does Maelicia make Verso call her his little sister while she's raping him in her ending?

i can see someone choosing it if they respect maelle's wishes to die in the canvas over living as a one eyed mutilated mute burn victim in the real world

She was fucked when she was being tagteamed and the one who was sympathetic to her got sidetracked and arguablely made things worse lol

so really why didn't aline moved from her monolith and try to warn others directly ? Did she wanted to avoid interacting with the world from up close? or was she staying there to be protected from Renoir?

Alicia writes in PAPA GO HOME in the monolith like the dumb kid she is

if you sided with Maelle over Verso you're a fucking moron

Aline trapped real Renoir below the monolith but in doing so trapped herself at the top of it

Nigga, Clea literally tells you this in epilogue. Renoir imprisoned her in monolith during fracture and she trapped him below.

I do and I stand by my decision.

but Verso was all sad!

Yeah I dont care.

don't act like 90% of men wouldn't still fuck alicia. the eye is a bit off putting but she's still attractive

Clea goes in

makes Nevrons

"welp looks like my work here is done"

how the fuck does this help? All she did was block the way to the Paintress dumb bitch

tfw you realize Renoir's look as the conservator directly is reflecting Aline as the paintress, who's look got corrupted due to so many time in the canvas and all the chroma. but unlike Aline, Renoir can freely change how he looks. meaning he decided to look that way probably out of respect for his wife so that she doesn't feel alone.

Clea pretty much is a very low effort person when it's about the painting, she's more busy hating the shit out of the writers, please understand

She made so Aline chroma aka magic doesnt return to her after painted creations die so she cant pain anymore. Thats why you go and gather chroma from the dead after epilogue.

Knowing what I do about French writers they're probably the most mentally ill collection of degenerates on the planet

I read there's a Clea boss fight, is she the real Clea or a fake one created by Aline?

Nevrons basically lock down Chroma when they kill someone so it can't be reused to sustain the world.

When Simon failed she realized the expedition plan wasn't going to work

Well many French artist of all professions are known for being batshit insane very often if not downright immoral. I don't know why it's so often specifically the french but it's common enough for it to be said.

The closest thing to what seems to be a real Clea is an NPC in endless tower. The one you actually fight is fake.

When Simon failed she realized the expedition plan wasn't going to work

and then it did

So what's up with the one Nevron that's good? the little builder guy with a green face who want Maelle to have wings

Just started the game, should I use the English or French dub? Which does it better?

everyone in this family is either useless, insane or both except for Verso

how the fuck are they going to manage in the real world?

Game was done with the english dub in mind, french dub is very good too, but english is the original.

They're both good, probably decide how tied down to subtitles do you want to be

finish act 1

go through the OST up to that point

reach the climax song youtube.com/watch?v=3kMbTzomh94

man this guy's going hard at 1:27

mfw it's the Bury the Light guy

They are artist so it's obvious !
they won't. They just will keep a barely stable facade. Maybe it will be less painful over the years, but it likely never will leave them.

"Dad, I wanna be a musician!"

"Damn it son, you need to be a schizo artist like the rest of us"

The bots are working overtime to hate on the game. Must be very good and based.

I'll go ahead and do the English dub first then, then do French in a ng+ run, it's what I'm planning to do for Ghost of Tsushima now that I remember

It's just a metaphor/representation of Renoir.

Maelle's ending is objectively a bad ending, even if Verso's ending is very sad too, at least there's hope.
I also fully understand why Maelle did what she did, it's extremely relatable even if it's stupid.

Choosing Verso's side just means you care more about Maelle than the painted fags like Lune. The best ending would be getting that entire retarded family out of the canvas and leaving it be, but letting Maelle kill herself so her painted friends get a longer life makes sense too

LMAO this

superboss Clea should have had some giant titties after she got improved by the real one

anons pretending like Alicia is completely fucked in life like they wouldn't marry her in a heartbeat

Do 3 hours of endgame side content

"Okay time to go end the game, I want to see what happens"

Get to final boss

He attacks once

Whoops. They really made sure you could beat him huh.

I know I like a game very much when I stay awake for an entire night to discuss about it
... fuck tomorrow will be painful

Worldbuilding is important to me when it comes to games. Tell me something interesting about the world

load up game

launches me to the bottom of the map

I cant mount Esqui

Uh, ok.

Yeah this is me. I beat it, was like "Alright time to move on with my life I've played this game for 40 hours straight outside of work and sleep".
I've now spent the last 4 hours just talking about it.

But would she marry me?...

Something about that accent, love it.

I don't think marrying her would fix anything. Even an older Alicia getting married probably would struggle with the same issues.
Her face might be burned, she might have lost an eye, but her biggest issues are not physical, it's her mind.

Oh fuck it's one of those games?

I might have to play this. Hopefully I can't run it

Probably, she doesn't seem to have any friends and her family merely tolerates her. She seems like she'd be happy for any scrap of attention really

go to camp and leave

still stuck

Uh oh. I might be locked unless I can find something I can climb.

I respect the devs for actually giving her a fucked up face though. So many dating VNs and anime with hot girls with burn scars that just look like miniscule patches of discolored skin... nah that is legit flesh destroying.

Tfw I got addicted to the game a bit too much
tfw I'm now doing escapism
AUGHH FUCK

Wait where the fuck am I??

I mean really Anon Babble is just another form of escapism wcyd.

Sorry but i am marrying her sister.

enjoy your psychopath, anon

In a world full of supermodels aint nobody marrying a chick with half her face burned off

thanks.

The real Alicia face is fucked up but not too fucked up, the fake Alicia face however is an even more extreme level of burning.
However, the fake Alicia can still talk with a weird voice, the real Alicia seemingly can't talk anymore and even her breathing seems very raspy.

I wouldn't, but I would have kinky sex with her involving her empty eye socket.

A writer typed this post

try to run south

Im somehow more North

Im fucked.

Because current fashion is about wearing as little clothes as possible.
Not dressing up in multiple layers.

Christ, how horrifying

anon wtf is wrong with you

The game has a save file backup function, go back to the main menu and when you load your save there's an option to load an older auto save up to like 10 or 15 iirc

try loading an earlier autosave?

she can find an Anglo. Their women are so disgusting burnt Alicia is still a 9/10 there

I wish my dad was like Renoir

Anyone in new game plus? Is it scaled well?

theres more than just 3 previous saves stored

Oh phew.

If you want to git gud at parries/dodges you have to go by ear and not sight

works very well that way for individual attacks, for very fast combos however... Awesome sound design though they did a great job without any delays

I parry all attacks that have clear sounds without any problem, but always fuck up a few parries if I have to rely on the visual tells.

I just find chicks that have been deformed by accidents attractive.

*ahem*
Esquie is best giant sack of wine
that is all

Slight worldbuilding spoiler but it's something I was waiting for
I love that one of the previous expedition teams are the reason you have the climbing footholds

I'm 32 and have been playing RPGs my whole life. This is now the best one.

the balance is a bit fucked in the last act, you've got insane superbosses and entire dungeons to explore, but if you touch any of them, it makes the final boss a joke

so how the fuck could fake Renoir have the ability to just erase people? He's not the real one.
He also seems to uses the mask in his first boss fight, even when it's later said the real Renoir made the axons, not Aline.
Did Alice gave extra overpowered abilities to her fake family on purpose? Alicia can stop time. and Verso is very immortal + very powerful.

anon there's a difference between "I find them attractive" and "Eye fetish"

Esquie is probably the best written character in the game simply because writing a character like that and him not only not being annoying but also loveable is super difficult.

i'm not surprised, every month millennials and zoomers choose another "best game i've ever played"

Never.

that's actually the theme of an Act 2 boss, funnily. I think they moved some songs around in the tack listing so the times would add up to 3:03:33

grapple points too, and those crazy bastards made it all the way to the Monolith

as a frenchman I can say I cringed a little at first because I knew a dude who spoke literally in the exact same way, including the same jokes, it was like "oh this guy is in the game"
but I mellowed to him

All the non-humans are great, I love all those retards.

mfw Ferris Wheel chads

About to get this, finally have some time to play.
How is the game's length? Does it have post-game contents?
How varied is the build variety?

And no my name is not "François"

Stop referencing internet memes in your video games.

The last Expedition log in the game is one from a bunch of fitness nerds who literally threw off all their armor and worked out so much they all bulging muscles

They swam across the sea instead of using boat or plane

They actually made it farther than any other expedition and discovered that the paintress wasn't the one doing the gommages but Renoir

Rest of team goes to try and fight Renoir while this one guy SWIMS ALL THE WAY BACK TO LUMIERE

The only reason he doesn't make it back and inform everyone that The Paintress isn't the bed guy is because he gommages on the way, not because he couldn't make the swim

Lmfao. Also shoutout to Expedition 70(right?) for setting up all the grapples. The GOAT team.

what the fuck was their strategy here? just rolling to the paintress? what kind of retard thought this was a good idea? Did this expedition just decided "oh fuck all of this let's do the very goofy plan we are gonna die anyway"

This game already has an extremely cringe fanbase

it's a big meme in France

Close, it was 69.

that one expedition who died for fucking around too much around Esquie and dying by eating mushrooms

it's like 25 hours for main story, 40+ for side content. There's "post-game" that you can do before the final boss but it was clearly intended to be done after.
Every character has like three or four archetypal builds that you can fool around with. The Black Mage and the Blue Mage analogs can be more varied.

69 was the one who died at Visages I thought?

Stop fucking crying bitch you aren't the one dying here

I'd expect this sense of humor from the Anglos but not the French

French people love to be rude bastard until the end

The one Expedition leader who just recorded a fucking Poem instead of actually saying something useful.

I think the lead writer is American, dunno if she would've written all the journals too

When Gustave suggested it, I thought he was just being whimsical/silly, but then you find the log from that expedition and realize he was just nerding out with expedition trivia. I kek'd. Honestly I'm shocked how well the jokes land in this game, no "Japanese humor" here.

a lot of it comes down to the delivery too, Monoco's deadpan is fucking perfect

CRASHING THIS FERRIS WHEEL INTO THE PAINTRESS
WITH NO SURVIVORS

if your entire military strategy is bashing your head against a monolith year after year you're going to inevitably start trying some stupid shit

That one expedition where they goes to the monolith, realize there's a one shot barrier, then just give up and decide to become fishermen.

I'm genuinely shocked no Expedition has attempted to somehow 9/11 the monolith.

Anyone know what track plays in frozen hearts (in the field)? I guess it plays somewhere else but I didn't pay attention. The ost is too big to comb through but I suppose I will if I have to.

Just beat it at around 35 hours. Anyone who says this is anything lower than an 8/10 is a dishonest fag

Everything involving Francois was gold

The "Please Help me" before the Golgra fight had me in stitches. Rich Keeble is great,

The wheel would have done it if they didn't stuck themselves like fucking idiots

have you guys notice the enemies are either rock monsters or a female

I just did that lol, got my ass whipped for like half an hour

that Golgra fight is fucking bullshit though
french people REALLY love rock monsters in their fantasy shit for some reasons this is not the first time this happened

I only got one complaint.
The menu is kinda ass to get around in… it really is like a JRPG

It's flashy and pretty and all but i get major FF13 vibes(derogatory) while playing it.

what about the diving helmet kids with the sea mine balloon

the only real direct comparison is the levels are a bit linear, but they're more like FFX than FFXIII in that regard.

tempted to make the game in easy mode for the remaining bonus content because I don't want to farm
I have become a lazy bastard

Sciel dumped literally me
I KNEW I SHOULD'VE PICKED LUNE

The difficulty won't save you for the superboss. You need to have a proper setup or be a parry god.

Renoir painted Sciel this way so she would seduce and dump fake Verso

So anons, what are your opinions on the each party member in combat? For me it goes:
S tier:
Verso- He can do a ton of hits in a turn, all of which hit really hard. He requires a little bit of setup, but not a lot, and is pretty much always the hardest hitter while still being able to survive easily.

Maelle-Also hits extremely hard, but requires a bit of set up, which isn't that hard to do, but unlike Verso, how much comes down to rng rather than is guaranteed. Still hits like a fucking truck from the moment you get her, to the very end of the game.

A tier:
Monoco- Can do pretty much everything, and has some really useful skills early on, some of which I think are the best support skills in the game. Unfortunately his damage isn't as good as Verso or Maelle, unless there is a skill I haven't seen for him yet. His good skills do have pretty high ap cost unfortunately, and I guess getting them can be a pain if you don't know what you are looking for.

B Tier:
Sciel- She can do both damage and support pretty well, sort of like Monoco, but can't match him in either. With the right weapon she requires hardly any setup though.

Gustave- People say he's really mediocre, but I found him to be really useful when used in conjuncture with Maelle. Even so, he's kind of Maelle's bitch when it comes to his own usefulness, since without him setting her up his utility is mostly shitty with the exception of his break.

C tier:
Lune- People say she's good, but I don't see how any other party member doesn't immediately beat her out. Her damage is just ok, her support is also just fine(though that makes her the worst support character), and she requires too much setup that nobody else has to put up with, even if she has a weapon that reduces that. She's not bad, but when everyone else is either good or great, just being ok doesn't make her worth it.

Is there just some huge marketing campaign ongoing with influencers and bots or something?

If you've been following this shit in any way it should be extremely obvious that this is what's happening. The game has had a very deliberately social media driven marketing campaign that is clearly designed to give off the impression that the game is some kind of grassroots semi-indie return to form make for 'real gamers who appreciate classics' that people are naturally and organically championing for its merit, but it's just obviously complete slop that's embarrassingly terrible and that different places have paid shills trying to fit in with the culture of whatever they're posing on.

People praising the game sound like YA booktockers. The actual gameplay somehow combines the worst aspects of Final Fantasy style turn based combat with the most shallow aspects of Souls in such a way that the result ends up being effectively a shitty rhythm game where any possible depth of either turn based or action games barely matters given you just pressing buttons at the designated time is what determines everything. The story actually does take after FFX, in being a silly mystery box with a gimmicky premise where you have to play for hours to find out anything, and the music is...whatever this is: It's embarrassing shit deliberately hyped through almost clever, artificially low key marketing.

Lune treats Verso like shit most of the time

Sciel immediately DTF

If he fucks Sciel Lune wants nothing to do with him

Lune only becomes romantically interested later on after Sciel

Verso is just a coping mechanism for Sciel

Fucking hell. Well whatever it doesn't matter.

The auto QTE option seem to not landing it at perfect. Will this affect damage output in any meaningful way?

I can't blame Maelle for wanting to stay in a fantasy with the gang and Verso rather than be stuck in reality with her mom and sister who hate her

Basically my exact tier list.
Maelle past act 2 becomes fucking insane. Her 8 AP attack was legit doing 1 million + right off the bat.
Lune was great early-mid game then fell off the later the game went.

Well, its her fault Verso died. She should be guilty and accept it instead of coping.

this studio will forever be based for creating one of the only attractive short and flat 3d videogame characters there are almost none that exist and it makes me sad

Lune can wipe entire encounters with Trick+Genesis. She requires a bit more luck than the others but she's a tactical nuke when she works.

do you really think holding that over her and twisting the knife helps at all?

when she works.

that's the problem, when she works. Why bother when I can just go with Verso, Maelle and Sciel/Monoco and get a surefire kill-team?

I seem to have fucked up my builds for both Verso and Maelle since they never managed to really do that much damage, they were useful but my main carry was Sciel, she not only kept the team alive but also dealt insane damage consistently.

It's not difficult to make her work, you just have to buff her crit. Trick gets all four stains, then next turn she does a 10 hit attack for a squillion damage to every enemy.

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the game mindbroke the Japanese so hard that they're coping and claiming FF shifting to a DMC wannabe genre is actually a good thing

holy kek

STOP TALKING ABOUT THE GAME I HAVEN'T FINISHED IT YET AND I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT WITH YOU GUYS WHEN I DO

What anon said. As the game goes on and you find more audio logs you realize that the expeditions were trying everything you can think of to either beat the paintress, or realized they were fucked and were just trying to sacrifice themselves to give the next expedition more info on what was going on, or what would/ wouldn't work.
I might be misremembering, but wasn't it a giant sea serpent that got them stuck, and not any fault of their own? Not only that, but that sea serpent took out way better equipped and trained expeditions too, so it wasn't a push over either.

Wittgenstein, Derrida, or Kant deep

It's so French to mention Derrida and act like he's produced work with significance comparable to Kant or Wittgenstein. The French have very fine thinkers, when they are capable of doing mathematical work, but when they aren't they often produce so much pointless rambling.

Sciel is s tier because she has the skill that let's someone act immediately.

wasn't it a giant sea serpent that got them stuck

Yeah, the leviathan fucked up a bunch of expeditions.

The French have very fine thinkers

For me, it's Camus

get mogged for centuries by the Germans and Anglos

still claim intellectual supremacy

how do the frogs do it

Funny it never touched 33.

Does it have a demo to try, my rig should easily handle it from recommended hardware but I've heard complaints from others.

Renoir got to them before they even got near it

She did literally nothing wrong

Literally did everything wrong.

supposedly a french game

lead writer is an american woman

i'm not white, but why does this annoy me.

That song that begins with "Gone away, gone away" is beautiful.

I mean, she barely does anything. She does the bare minimum to give the father some edge over the mom, trap her sister in the canvas and get the fuck out to hunt wriggers.

She did literally nothing

fixed

Her original sin was not unbuttoning the rest of the shirt

how do the frogs do it

this basically

I recognized a pattern:

Sophie dumped Gustave (MC aka the player) and sets him on a path of self destruction leading to his death.

Sciel dumped Verso (MC aka the player) and sets him on a path of self destruction leading to his death.

Anile dumped Renoir for a ride in fantasia and Renoir spent 67 bloody years in misery.

BTW Anile was painter Renoir real wife in real life.

She's doing the least in fantasy land but the most in the real world

Jarvis, overlay it with the share of black population by country map

what's wrong with the Irish?

16,01

Colonization of Africa is finally paying off

whiskey dick

I think Gustave still would've gone on the Expedition even if they stayed together

is it ever explained why the writers are such dicks who tried to kill a teenage girl

She sped up the process in a way that lets her deal with the shitshow outside instead of needing to fully commit to being in the painting.

Wheres that fag who said they dont have souls

I would've liked to see Alicia bring Gustave back only for him to side with Verso

Lets celebrate for one little moment the game not for its mechanics, not for its (for most people intriguing) story, but simple for the beautiful female characters in looks but also in spirit.

The same reason why Jews are killing the children in the ME today

both of Maelle's onii-chans fighting to save her from herself

Can she do that early on? Otherwise the problem becomes what said, where she requires more set up over characters who are already that good, or require maybe a single turn of setup. It's why I put her under Gustave, since she only starts being good when you have way better options, and is only mediocre up until then, with her being worse then Gustave while he's still alive.
I think Monoco, also has that though, unless I'm accidentally thinking of a picto ability as one of his.

The ending where Alicia stays in the painting doesn't even make sense. Clea is so much more skilled she could just waltz in there, beat Alicia's ass, and force her out of the painting. Verso would definitely help her do it too. It's hard to imagine her respecting her sister's wish to die in there

Stop loving me

I will always love you

Drop this brush, leave this canvas

Renoir/Aline

I will always paint

Stop painting

Drop this brush, leave this canvas

Renoir/Aline

Clea just doesnt care. For her, Alicia staying in the canvas is a godsend because she sees Alicia as an useless nuisance.

just finished the game, didn't really do much side content. is the optional content fun?

germany

14.48

missed opportunity

Honestly with all the awful ends that some of the expeditions meet, I don't even blame the ones that decide "You know what, fuck this, we're just going to try and find whatever peace we can before the gommage takes us." Niggas get crushed, mind controlled, suffocated, starved to death, entombed, etc.

But what about Lune and Verso if you do that route?

Clea doesn't give a shit about Alicia, she just wants Renoir and Aline to stop fucking around with the Canvas and start killing wriggers again

The fuck are you on?
Lune early on you can pump out 11k+ damage each turn with mayhem + free aim pictos. Later on she just needs 100% crit for elemental trick+genesis which is easy to get with the +25% from critical burn. Use Sciel's intervention on her and you don't even have to wait for 2 turns.
Mob groups literally just die in 1 turn with Lune.

Monoco's best support skill is giving out shields and it quickly gets invalidated when you get the shielding tint picto and everything else.
Sciel's All Set, Intervention, and Fortune's Fury remain useful all throughout the game.

Clea is a psycho bitch that just wants to kill Writers

I don't think there actually is a Lune route, only Sciel

what song is this?

i didn't know japan had a zoomie problem

Une vie a t'aimer

Does the Japanese like this game? This is important because it means fanart.

She watched SotsuGou. I don't blame her.

She clearly wouldn't do it out of love, but surely she'd do it just to stop all the nonsense? Alicia dying in there just makes everything worse. Her death would cause even the dad to have a meltie and ruin the painters guild completely

Is that head edited?

But didn't the writers caused the fire that killed her brother and scarred her sister?

i say this with love: get the fuck out anon, it's worth it to not be spoiled

Yeah anons are making Clea out to be a psychopath, but she's hunting the writers because they caused Verso's death. She did care about him

the nips on Steam seem to, at least

Maelle's 8 AP attack destroys your shields and the best way to survive is stacking shields.

the nips

on Steam

lol. lmao.

they're calling her a psychopath because she sees her parents in a self-destructive grief spiral and thinks "why aren't they thinking about killing Wriggers"

seems like you can if you avoid sciel
youtu.be/6o2UWQCcwMk?si=v1NKY5vaDVATBJfs&t=1012

huh, how bout that
NG+ I guess

Lune carried a lot of the early stuff for me.

Pick up stacking dmg flame attack at level 10

Hit up the Chromatic boss in the "Danger" in the first section of the world map

Take him out no problem since it can easily get to 9999 per turn

4 levels and the 50% increased dmg on first attack picto

Should I play this? I love rpg game but visually the characters seems really bland

Is the story worth it?

100% play it. the entirety of the games visuals and characters will grow on you hard, the game needs to be seen in motion to do it justice

The dad already knew alicia would die in the painting when he left her in the canvas. She knew she was lying to him about leaving the canvas.

He knew***

she's a psychopath because when her mom is understandably losing it from her son's death and her dad is desperately trying to save her all she can think is

lol what retards

IS THIS WHEN HARD?

More like she sees her mother running away in another world instead of getting justice against the assholes that killed her son. And she sees her mother abandoning the whole family to create fake versions of them instead. She's right to be upset. She's unfair to Alicia but her mom really did her dirty

But anons make it sound like she doesn't care when she does as she wants revenge for her brother and she is pissed off that the rest of her family wastes time in escapism/trying to break the others from the escapism instead of helping her in avenging Versos.

she doesn't seem to give much of a fuck about her dad either so that argument is out

You can tell how upset she is when talks about her mom's "obscene fake family" inside the canvas. She calls her parents by their first names to try to emotionally distance herself from them, but you can still tell deep down she's wounded by it

she's so upset she treats the only remaining family member stuck with her like absolute dogshit. Renoir himself says Clea is all fucked in the head and hellbent on fighting her own forever war

She knows why he's trying to save her mom, but she it was useless to try to help someone who isnt willing to be helped and that fixing the shitshow the conflict was causing to the painters faction should've been the dad's priority. She is not wrong.

It's a shame that you can't respec lumina distribution. I already invested too much in other characters to bother caring about him.

if Aline dies on Renoir's watch then it's wraps for the Dessendre family without a doubt. If Clea can't see that then she is a psycho.

Hey, dont diss Monoco. He isnt Maelle levels of busted but he can still do some good damage. Lampmaster Light goes up by millions every turn it's used.

Luckily Sciel doesnt need points to do her one single job, which is to do nothing but buff Monoco up.

Holy shit, are they so prideful that they can't accept that SE has betrayed them?

where can you fight Dualliste again?

He was probably in the Endless Tower somewhere at some point.

One of the bonus endgame dungeons

Glass shatters

youtu.be/iqizXvvWnmM?si=mfOoPWFXXn3iMKVZ

Japs are the biggest consoomers on the planet. We joke about sucking megacorp dick here in the West but they could never get away with the shit they do in Japan on the regular.
The sheer amount of soul-less cash grabs, product placement and general jewery that they not only allow but celebrate is absurd.

The family would be ruined anyway if Clea wasnt there to take their position. She is not a psychopath, she's a sociopath at most.

Clea dlc when

You should see some of their responses to innocuous shit like texture mods.
They're unironically the biggest corpo bootlickers on the planet, especially if it's a Japanese company.

this. Westerners frequently rake their sacred cows over the coals (Disney, Warner Bros, etc.). The Japs literally can't fathom not sucking corporate cock.

Simonbros...

Its not like there was a good rpg from japs since dq11. I dont know how bg3 didnt buck broke them, considering they never releases and never will release anything close to it in production value and quality. Now some indie casually mogging then.

I'm in act 2 and just got monoco and i'm around lvl 33-35ish and feel slightly over leveled. Should i just not invest points into anything for now? Or maybe respec to have 0 vitality/defense?
Just thinking of what i can do to make sure mobs don't get 1 shot and make it so i can't just face everything going forward.

Eurofags have been kicking the shit out of both Americans and Japs recently.

If you dont want the campaign to become a faceroll you have to stop doing side content, especially the act 3 side content or you're gonna just one shot the final boss and miss most of the show.

Simon soulsbornekiroring spin off when?

what about just doing act 2 side content, then speed running to the end once i'm in act 3, then doing the act 3 optional content afterwards?
Would that still make it so the final boss/area is decently challenging?

Yes