THE CITY MUST SURVIVE

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On my first playthrough I managed to save everyone without losing my humanity just fine.
No one is forcing you to research the entire policy tree.
Git gud you mussolini-hitler-stalin-mao-trump.

YOU SURVIVED THE LITERAL APOCALYPSE BUT..

LONG WORKING HOURS

EVENING PRAYER

PROSTHETICS

WAS IT WORTH IT? WAS IT????

I'm always perplexed by that, normies seem to think that it is better for everyone to die than survive under strict rules, even if temporary, as if managing your people with an iron fist for a short period somehow rob them of their soul for eternity.
Really weird, same with difficult choices.
A funny one is watching normies play Mass effect 3, the final choice, and listening to their reasoning as to why it is better to alter the matrix of all live in the galaxy without consulting anyone because the other solution is to wipe out a race of machine to save everyone...fucking schizo I swear.

If some Anon tried to make me work in the post-apocalypse I'd just blow up the generator so hard that it'd make winterhome look like a firecracker.
Fuck you.

There's a bit of suicide cult ideology running through western civilisation. A bastardisation of original sin, and christian guilt and repentance.

You don't have to go full Big Brother with the Order route to get the good ending. You can even go for propaganda stations and prisons. You just gotta stay away from the most egregious shit like full dictatorship or torture.

*steams you to death to make an example to the other incels*

Now shovel the fucking coal

Sequel

storms are completely trivial now

spend all your time fucking around with politics instead

literally no difference between coal and oil

If some Anon tried to make me work in the post-apocalypse I'd just

You wouldn't do anything because my guards would round you up and you'd get cooked near the generator grill to keep everyone else in line.

I can't find any explanation for this retarded decision. Have never considered even playing FP2 after seeing the gameplay. Sending children out to go scavenge some scrap at 8am when I already had two automatons working steelworks 24/7 and watching them trudge through the snow, can't be having that, you want a politics simulator instead

If I was in the frostpunk world I'd just be a neet while the rest of you worked.
Keep shoveling that coal wagies, my indoor heating isn't going to heat itself. Heh heh.

I'm not making a judgement call on the game quality since I haven't even seen footage of the sequel but that kinda checks out to me
Advancement ought to mean day to day scraping for survival becomes less prominent

I get why they changed genres for the sequel. The first game is about early growing pains of survival and proving you can survive the worst storm in history, but once you're set up and once you can survive - then what? The world is now bigger than just a crater in the ground, there's more humans than just New London. What does actual living look like for humanity, how has it changed, is it possible to thrive? What happens when you no longer have emergency dictator powers and need to actually let humanity develop? All questions worth exploring and it requires a different approach than the approach of FP1.

FP2 is a different genre of game with different goals, it was never intended to be the "second attempt to make a better version of the original" type of sequel. But I won't deny FP1 is just better.

Is ready to kill just for the joy of it

complains about getting the bad ending

Off to Gloomy Cave you go

just for the joy of it

It's not just for the joy of it, it's to manage discontent. Plus if you know the survival of your species is on the line, being lazy just means you kinda deserve to die.

complains about getting the bad ending

I don't complain about it.

I haven't played the sequel but does the Captain from the first game end up being revered like the Emperor in 40k? Guiding the last city on earth through an ice apocalypse should earn him a century of worship.

when you no longer have emergency dictator powers

Lol.
No one in human history who gets "emergency" dictator powers has lost them voluntarily.

The cult/authoritarians take over and cart his old ass outside into the cold in his wheelchair leave him there. You betrayed the god/cause.

you have no fucking idea how badly they butchered it
youtube.com/watch?v=Ly2T14H8gdM

captain grows old

loses grip on power and control

factions start fighting over power

can't tell if the woman is actually real or a representation of the voices

dies from old age with the colony falling apart

then the sequel introduces political bullshit and 90% of the game is pacifying the political parties instead of you know, surviving
the game has a thing where you can start enacting totalitarian rules and eventually dismiss parliament and reinstate the captain position, along with the

was it worth it

ending if you chose too much gestapo rules

50% of the game is spent opening this screen because the only way to unlock new technology is through parliament

the sequel rated and sold like shit, it sold like 1/3 of what the devs expected which is why they've gone back to remastering frostpunk 1 for quick money
the devs dont understand what made frostpunk 1 popular in the first place

Put all your eggs in one basket

The basket grows old and croaks and fucking dies

Eggs spill all over and everything is fucked

How could this happen?

look at what they did to the world exploration stories, they couldnt even be assed to draw art for them and most of the stories revisiting the old places were completely worthless and added no value despite their significance in the first game

350k

break even

How the fuck? Wasn't Frostpunk supposed to be an indie series?

they did the bullshit

pay extra to get early access!

it was massively overpriced, especially when you consider other games like two point museum or expedition 33 are better games and cheaper

Got my first clear in 10 hours. I could've maybe done a bit better but I scraped by by the skin of my teeth

Big freeze is in full effect

I've finally run out of coal

Discontent about to peak

2 days left

Event happens that will make or break my discontent

Lie to the populace and tell them I'll X before Y

Y was greater than 2 days

Discontent locked to not be able to boil over until I win

Came really fuckin' close.

they also spent 6 years developing this game

We’ve got 30 days to get our shit together or we die!

Ok but aren’t we going to build schools for the children? Kids should be learnin’, not workin’

I get why they changed genres for the sequel.

i don't. does every FPS sequel need to have your character promoted to a general and looking at maps because that's the next logical step after being a field officer?

then what? The world is now bigger than just a crater in the ground, there's more humans than just New London. What does actual living look like for humanity, how has it changed, is it possible to thrive?

then you show how people are surviving somewhere else under different conditions. you could expand underground building mechanics. maybe even underwater/coastal settlements. maybe some steampunk air balloon settlements or something. there are options that aren't completely abandoning the genre AND tone of the game that people liked in the first place.

heat got dumbed down to just being an X > Y check

why?

Darkest dungeon 2 all over again. At least they’re going back to fp1. Red hook just threw their hands up and sold the company.

Why don't the Brits just go south to Spain where it's warmer?
Are they stupid?

Is Frostpunk 2 really that bad

It's a shame, I like both games, they complement each other well

It's not the same game but I kind of agree with the defenders: Just play FP1 if you want that. FP2 is something else.

No, it's that they didn't want to get stuck making "city survival sims" and so tried to build out their Frostpunk setting. They just didn't realize most people weren't going to care and simply wanted another Frostpunk 1.

even in our beautiful democracy, at the end of it all theres a guy with a stick waiting to beat you up if you dont do what they say. normalniggers tend to forget that.

brutal

The world is now bigger than just a crater in the ground, there's more humans than just New London

What happened to The Last City on Earth? Way to many people seem to survive without a generator. Why build them at all if so many survive without it? There should be no one left but the descendants of the handful of generators. They already broke their premise with the On The Edge dlc.

Ok, you are Spain, will you take refugees?
No? So what happens to them now?

solve it

game becomes dogshit

the sequel made it even worse forcing you to grind for shit

frostpunk 2 has some okay game mechanics, but they shouldn't have based it in the frostpunk world if they're going to change the game so drastically

they deserve it

nonsense. You're saying they should start over again with literally no brand recognition instead of building on their quite engaging and cool Frostpunk setting?

Just admit you wanted them to farm vaguely different clones of FP1. That's ok. I'm not saying that's bad. I'm saying I understand the devs not wanting that.

You're saying they should start over again with literally no brand recognition

how do you think frostpunk 1 came to be made?

Didn't they also make that survival point and click game? That one was popular too.

Because they had a cool idea and it hit right. You're asking them to throw away that success entirely and try again when there's no reason to. FP2 leaned into the social/political elements and that's ok. Lotta people liked it. More didn't. That's no reason to say they should be doing retarded shit like tossing out their most successful moment ever.

Never heard of it so my point stands. They're known for FP so using that IP is only logical.

Nah fuck you, if you know indie games, you know this game.

Oh they made that? I had actually indeed heard about it. Didn't have an engaging setting or lasting brand appeal. Frostpunk is WAY stronger. The best thing they've ever done. Continuing to build it is the right move.

The idea that they should dump the Frostpunk setting if not making a derivative sequel is just obscenely silly.

If you make a sequel whose goal is to just be a direct upgrade over the original, then the original is rendered obsolete. Like how nobody ever plays Titanfall 1 anymore because Titanfall 2 is just a direct upgrade, so Titanfall 1 was killed by its sequel. If Frostpunk 2 was just more of the same game except 2x the development time and 3x the budget, it would've most likely just rendered Frostpunk 1 obsolete. To avoid this, creators don't try to directly one-up the previous entry but instead try to do something different.

Be Britain

Queen authorizes the dust cloud weapon so your companies can do the imperialism better and genocide more native populations farther away and more efficiently

Get a headstart to prepare a survival strategy after it becomes clear you should've not fucked with the weather

inform no one else

Only the Brits survive the coldsnap

Not so tough now, rest of world, hm?

That makes absolutely no sense in the context of a single player game, what a retarded post.

For certain genres it does.

Is that the actual backstory??

this game went to the Mechanicus school of "mediocre gameplay with 0 replay value gets carried super hard by OST and atmosphere"

go full-on turbo authoritarian

human rights at an all-time low

living conditions high

food production high

not even a single illness during the storm let alone a death

Huh. Maybe the libtards are onto something

Be calm citizen, the crown could never do wrong.
It was just a "volcanic winter" event.
Completely natural.

Well, your guy Trump is trying it all out in practice at the very moment. Just trust the plan.

If you play the endless mode and collect artifacts for the library, one of them alludes to it and a coverup.

today's soups and soups people were fed during 19th century poorfag years are very different soups
today's soups are more like broths full of nutrients and vitamins, and you don't do nearly as much physical labor
now imagine it's -40 outside you gotta wear so many clothes it's like heavy armor and you gotta shovel coal nonstop for 10 hours, and your ration for the day is warm water flavoured to taste like actual food, with maybe one or two shreds of meat in it

first game was about the city surviving
that's it, you've established it's possible, the growing pains of survival are (technically) gone, cold good warm bad, its over

the second game is about fighting other humans rather than nature, the cold is just a backdrop

but yeah I liked fighting nature more than humans

hitler

when you see an outgroup/foreigner fetish it’s a sign you have a jew infestation

freedom is inherently dangerous (I say that in the least worst way possible), as you are free to choose what would otherwise be mistakes you'd be arrested/have negative consequence for

DECISIVE BRITISH STRATEGIC VICTORY

that's it, I'm going to london

no comfy radial building around a generator = shark jumped

Oh no, anyway.

I actually find it funny that this game was release at the same time as Metaphor since both games take place after the end, have diffrent groups of people at each others throats, and there is mention of Utopias.

"SEND ANOTHER BATCH OF CHILDREN INTO THE MACHINE, KEEP IT RUNNING"

Protip: once everyone is dead you can use the kilns to turn all the wood from the empty houses into more coal for the fire.

Made you think.

meanwhile the sequel's endgame was over in a few days and the epic music felt out of place, both in my initial captain run and a diplomatic run later.

CORPSES FOR THE CHARCOAL GOD

ASHES FOR THE GENERATOR THRONE

so the way traditional sequel games have been for most of forever? i know there are outliers before you ackshually me, but you saying 'rendering the original obsolete' like it's some damning and unusual thing that should be avoided at all costs doesn't make sense to me. the ideal sequel for the overwhelming majority is an expanded/upgraded version built on the framework of the original. nobody played pacman and thought

man i hope pacman2 is a first person shooter

the soup makes 5 rations instead of 4.
So soup, makes each meal 80% of what it would otherwise be.

AAHH HELP MEEE ITS SOUP AAAHH ITS LIKE FOOD FLAVORED WATER AND LIKE 2 SHREDS OF MEAT AAAAQAAA

why are you like this.

how the fuck could we fight against -150c

The indomitable spirit of humanity.

And sending children into the collapsed mines too.

At that point wouldn't it just be impossible to breathe?

youtu.be/TpaFE6_nDJw?si=6tZ674WMJKHlV-yw&t=161

HEY RETARDS, EVERYBODY WHO IS DISAPOINTED WITH FROSTPUNK 2

I got an actual game you can play that isn't a MASSIVE disappointment. You want it?

With modern technology we could survive -150c. Super thick walls, aerogels for plugging holes, underground shelter, airlocks, HEV suits, multi-layered windows with gaps between each, etc. Basically the same things we'd use for a Mars colony in the open plains.
But realistically a man in 1886 could not survive this. He could survive well below -80c with super thick clothes in insulated space with heating powered by a massive generator, but -150c is just an unfathomable level of cold. At this temperature the gases in the atmosphere alter their state and seep down onto the ground, those are the frost tendrils you see in the game and touching it would be like taking a liquid nitrogen bath. The CO2 would also fall to the ground.

If you actually had a game you would have told us instead of asking if we want it

The CO2 would also fall to the ground

It already does that at normal temp :)

im not doing what you FUCKING tell me. in fact im gonna go blow up the FUCKING genera-

w-what are you doing, let go of me

NO! DONT TAKE ME TO THE SPIDERS AND RAPE CHAMBER PLEASE I WAS JUST FUCKING JOKING

underground

Dig into the side of a volcano.

Mechanically all you're doing is keeping track of the heat levels, but the music and the wind's screeching really sells the theming: this is humanity's last stand against being exterminated by the winter apocalypse.

Captain, the posters are rioting. They don't believe another game could be possible at this point

Give them the game

Test their faith further, only the worthy shall be blessed!

deep underground geothermal. very nice but how to secure oxygen for thousands of years and preventing liberal take over.

test

But realistically a man in 1886 could not survive this.

the average newlondoner isn't actually exposed to - 150 degrees Celsius, that's the air temperature when the gale force wind in effect. new londoners are huddled inside padded structures that are not only insulated by heaters and steam torches but also hooked up to the massive generator (this is why you need to connect buildings via streets). as long as the generator does not break down or run out of coal and the buildings are well-sealed, it's not really -150 Celsius inside