This remaster reveal to me just how insanely populated this place is with shills...

how insanely populated this place is with shills

old news.
any place online that has users producing and viewing content will be filled to the brim with advertisers.
that said, oblivion was always ok, and compared to modern games, thats considered amazing.

All the soul vs soulless posts are just faggots who are stuck in the past

holy shill

It's funny how hostile this place is to Bethesda but then all the sudden 70 percent of posts are sucking this overpriced slop's dick.

People don't hate "Bethesda" they hate the shit games they've been putting out lately. Oblivion is one of the all time classic CRPGs.
The only people bitching about Oblivion are autistic contrarians that hate popular things and can't understand why people can look past something's flaws even if it has something more going for it.

>how insanely populated this place is with shills

True. But I think it's even more populated with bait.

bait is the best advertisement, not only is the user reading/viewing the ad, they are also engaging with it.

Having played both the remaster is so much better. Combat's improved, the character designs are better, and there's an actual sprint button now. The issue isn't that Oblivion Remaster is doing well, the issue is that a 20 year old game got rereleased and still manages to run laps around most recent AAA games.

Now if Microsoft really wants to redeem itself it'll publish another HiFi Rush.

Literally Oblivion but with a nicer coat of paint.

Yeah, and that's a good thing. They kept the core of the game the same while improving gameplay, graphics etc.

It's not a remaster, it's a remake and it looks fucking retarded

This is what the Shrouded Armour actually looks like ingame btw

Check hasn't cleared yet

i don't suppose there's any way to be fully rid of all this stuttering and hitching yet?

Poor lighting, show your toon outside.

I'm not necessarily doubting you, I've read that a lot of the armors look worse in the inventory menu than in game.

Also, the nu Shrouded Hood is retarded either way.

that's an NPC

Stickman bob on the left there looks le heccin cool!

Imagine being as brain dead as OP, filtering yourself from the same game

Cope
The demaster sucks

It's not a remaster, it's a remake

do you not know the definitions of those words?
it's a by the book remaster

The only cope here is you retards. Left looks so fugly

They went in and changed things. Multiple sets of armor and artifacts were redesigned. The leveling system was dumbed down for braindead zoomers.
Its a remake. And a bad one, at that.

The only cope here is you retards. Left looks so fugly

Holy projection. Left looks like a woman, right is a fridgebod tranny

Holy take your meds

Kys tranny

you're so old an pathetic you can't fathom people liking new (better) things, it's a you problem

The soul of Oblivion was never in the visuals.

what a fucking retarded thing to say

Just admit that you are a shill. It's beyond obvious at this point.

Multiple sets of armor and artifacts were redesigned.

redesigned

exactly faggot, the differences are all nearly visual, in fact it's the same fucking game logic

The leveling system was dumbed down for braindead zoomers.

are you going to pretend that having to macro and spreadsheet your levels is BETTER?
oblivion's balancing fucking sucks, you're as strong as you can be avoiding beds like the plague and just letting your skills increase while you stay at a low level which is pathetically easy to do
levelling is a punishment, levelling without a spreadsheet and a mod that lets you do +5 on every levelup even moreso

I-it must be those fucking Morrowchads!!

Nah sorry m8, too busy playing the latest TR release. But I played and liked the Oblivion remaster too. It's not the same game, but with the nicer graphics and improvements I had a good time!

Keep my cock put of your asshole, please. I'm too busy playing games and having fun talking to Oblivion Studs to enjoy your anus.

if they dont agree they must be a shill

it's outright censorship

leveling system dumbed down

Stopped reading there. Everyone knows that the leveling system was simply broken, incorrectly calulculating values, and breaking leveling brackets.

who cares what it is, calling a ue5 coat of paint a remake is a fucking insult to remakes

comparing bright areas

post a picture in a fucking cave

you are disingenuous as fuck.

Literally Oblivion

but with a nicer (yet soulless) coat of paint

nicer (yet soulless)

ok I take the bait: What the fuck does that even mean?
It looks literally like oblivion. Same design. Looks pretty. Sorry you missed out on OG oblivion because you thought it was too ugly and janky to play, you only messed around with skyrim + sexmods and now you try to gatekeep like a loser because you butthurt over people having fun and/or cant play the remastered on your potato pc.

Oblivion remastered is simple, nostaligic fun. Its better than skyrim, it has up to date graphics and looks nice, it has enough rpg elements to serve its purpose, it will 100% have giant arsenal of mods in a few months, keeping it alive for a very long time, its pretty damn fucking cool with vr, Its literally the same as the OG, quests are fun, story is fun, writing is fun, dungeons and no dual wielding might be the only downgrade compared to skyrim. Skyrim really had awesome and witty dungeon design and complexity.

This "muh soulless" opinion is retarded nigger cattle tier. Especially regarding only graphics. OP is a retarded nigger or chink, not being able to appreciate white western culture, which is oblivion.

The leveling system eas dumbed down

en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Efficient_Leveling
Read this article and tell me with a straight face this was okay in the first place.

You niggers complain about everything. Do you even like video games?
This is a quality remaster, if you want to play the original its still there.
This fucking site should have stayed dead

I'm more pissed about the shills and Bethesda trying to deploy shady tactics

Why are you so butthurt, Blizzard shill?

exactly faggot, the differences are all nearly visual, in fact it's the same fucking game logic

Remaster generally implies graphical touch up, not massive redesign.

are you going to pretend that having to macro and spreadsheet your levels is BETTER?

Lmao imagine being so dumb you think you need spreadsheets for Oblivion's original leveling system

oblivion's balancing fucking sucks, you're as strong as you can be avoiding beds like the plague and just letting your skills increase while you stay at a low level which is pathetically easy to do

levelling is a punishment, levelling without a spreadsheet and a mod that lets you do +5 on every levelup even moreso

You just outed yourself as a shitter. It is hilariously easy to break Oblivion and be godtier powerful without even bothering with efficient leveling.
All you faggots slurping this demake are shills
Yup. This shit plus the Type 1 & 2 nonsense is unforgivable.
It is a remake when you go in and change gameplay elements/designs.
You are also a brainlet and bad at games.
You never needed to do this. Breaking Oblivion is comically easy, even with a horribly levelled character.
This is basically the same system from Morrowind btw minus Misc skills and it worked fine.

This is a quality remaster,

No it fucking isn't kek

if you want to play the original its still there.

For now. Until Toddy/Microshit decides to delist it like he did to the original Skyrim

This fucking site should have stayed dead

You have to go back

I don't actually care about the game, I just want to fuck argonians. Skyrim with mods is the best porn game ever made. I'll wait for the loverlabs mods before playing oblivion.

It looks like a generic unreal engine demo, not like oblivion. Unreal engine demos are all soulless.
Thus it looks soulless.

yet soulless

is not a valid criticism, use your own words

Youre so fucking coombrained if youre complaining about a vest to show off your transonas breast holy shit

People whining about others being negative to newer games seem to being seething harder than anyone else. At least mkst people who shit on new games are kind of just accepting the shitty slop industry for what it is. Meanwhile types like you are constantly foaming from the mouth over those people

OP is a retarded nigger or chink, not being able to appreciate white western culture, which is oblivion.

You are literally projecting xang. This game is thoroughly Chinese. Looks nothing like the original.

Lmao imagine being so dumb you think you need spreadsheets for Oblivion's original leveling system

how are you going to track which attributes are getting how many points per level? by constantly spamming advlevel and quickloading? even morrowind let you see that shit
and in morrowind you're consistently letting stronger because most enemies have static stats as opposed to this where you're consistently getting weaker

You just outed yourself as a shitter. It is hilariously easy to break Oblivion and be godtier powerful without even bothering with efficient leveling.

it's also easy to stay level 1 forever and make black soul gems to enchant all your shit and oneshot everything even on the maximum difficulty
it's easy to stack chameleon or weakness to magic
that doesn't take away from the fact that the game gives your enemies more meat and bite than it does you

it's simply soulless, you soulless npc

soul = colours

lmao

hurrr you just wanna coom

Reddit-tier argument, kill yourself

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backtracking this hard

still clutching his "Stay level 1 forever" pearl

Yep, I struck a nerve

yes

lost so hard he refuses to reply properly

i accept your concession
levelling measurably makes you worse in the game whether you like it or not
just because you can exploit the mechanics doesn't magically make the problem disappear

Piss filter is so fucking retarded for Oblivion

I wonder if anyone will fix it, or if it's possible.

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levelling measurably makes you worse in the game whether you like it or not

It really doesn't. Higher level = more health, higher skills/attributes and way better loot

just because you can exploit the mechanics doesn't magically make the problem disappear

"Exploit the mechanics" kek it's called playing the game, you dumbass zoomers are hopeless

What really pisses me off too is that IIRC Todd once said they couldn't make Cyrodiil a jungle because of technical limitations (which we know was lie but still) and this would have been the perfect moment to fix it.
But nah, let's hand it off to some shitty foreign company to "remaster" in UE5

The new glarthir reminds me of someone I know

They could have at least removed all the loading screens but nope, they got away with being lazy as fuck.

It's funny how hostile this place is to Bethesda

E-celebs say that Bethesda is le bad and Zoomers follow, this board is the majority of Zoomers nowadays.

Higher level = more health

and more enemy health than you get, enemies get more than the pithy 10 you get per level and you get enemy types with big resistances, reflecting damage, spells so you're proportionally weaker

higher skills/attributes

not skills faggot, nothing links your level to skills
and attributes are dogshit in comparison to what skills do where your blade triples your damage when going from 25 to 100 while your strength gives you about 30% more
or how about intelligence where it doubles your magicka at most going from 50 to 100 on a non magical race while the spell skill takes the mana cost down to 20% of the base cost at 100 skill

way better loot

you can turn grand soul gems into black soul gems and enchant better shit yourself
best you get is elemental shield transcendental sigil stones but those don't mean shit when everything you fight is weak

"Exploit the mechanics" kek it's called playing the game, you dumbass zoomers are hopeless

NOOOOO MY 100% CHAMELEON EXPLOIT IS PLAYING THE GAME IT'S NORMAL FOR EVERY ENEMY TO IGNORE ME I EARNED THIS BECAUSE I'M SO GOOD

and more enemy health than you get, enemies get more than the pithy 10 you get per level and you get enemy types with big resistances, reflecting damage, spells so you're proportionally weaker

Still you get more health and are more spongy yourself. There are means of dealing with reflect & resistances. It is true that exploiting the prison system to level past 50 is dumb.

not skills faggot, nothing links your level to skills

Skills literally are how you level up

and attributes are dogshit in comparison to what skills do where your blade triples your damage when going from 25 to 100 while your strength gives you about 30% more

Its still objectively giving you something.

or how about intelligence where it doubles your magicka at most going from 50 to 100 on a non magical race while the spell skill takes the mana cost down to 20% of the base cost at 100 skill

Mastering a school of magic typically brings costs way down unless you're trying to use something patently inefficient like Fingers of the Mountain. Magicka is 2x INT. And there's MANY ways of ramping it, from Fortify Magicka gear, of which there is plenty, Fortify Magicka/Intelligence/Willpower spells of the Restoration school let you essentially infinitely ramp your magic with custom spells if you so desire.

you can turn grand soul gems into black soul gems and enchant better shit yourself

You can't enchant the equivalent of a Mundane Ring or Amulet of Axes

best you get is elemental shield transcendental sigil stones

Yeah sigil stones are extremely powerful especially once you've levelled enough (see where I'm going?) to get Transcendent Stones

but those don't mean shit when everything you fight is weak

You wot

>NOOOOO MY 100% CHAMELEON EXPLOIT IS PLAYING THE GAME IT'S NORMAL FOR EVERY ENEMY TO IGNORE ME I EARNED THIS BECAUSE I'M SO GOOD

Strawman. Also 100% is a mechanic in the game and something you can do if you find the game too difficult. Or 100% resist magic/reflect/reflect spell etc

This remaster reveal to me just how insanely populated this place is with shills.

anyone surprised by this is legitimately retarded since this has been common knowledge for well over a decade now.

E-celebs say that Bethesda is le bad and Zoomers follow, this board is the majority of Zoomers nowadays

You have to go back (to the YouTube comment section)

Still you get more health and are more spongy yourself.

bigger number better is bad bait when it's all a relation of enemy to you and you are measurably worse off in that ratio at higher levels

Skills literally are how you level up

and their level is completely agnostic of your level

Its still objectively giving you something.

it makes you feel good when you look at the numbers, that's it

that entire paragraph

thanks for telling me what i already know

You can't enchant the equivalent of a Mundane Ring or Amulet of Axes

mind telling me why a level 1 character would need either of those when he's killing his enemies and taking way less damage than a level 30 with all the shit maxed against his enemies?

Yeah sigil stones are extremely powerful especially once you've levelled enough (see where I'm going?) to get Transcendent Stones

see above

You wot

have you ever played this game
a level 1 character will just see low tier dremoras, imps, stunted scamps, fur and iron clad bandits and wolves

still pushing his retarded level 1 char premise into every point

You're arguing in bad faith and bad at games

retarded level 1 char premise

it's not retarded when it's objectively true
i don't like playing like that and i haven't played like that in years but it's objectively the strongest you will ever be compared to the environment and the retarded scaling is the reason why it's even viable to begin with
you would never do this in morrowind because there barely anything is scaled so you're measurably stronger and in skyrim the game doesn't annihilate the low tier enemy population and perks measurably increase your power level
while with oblivion you barely get anything for levelling and instead of facing a 75 hp clannfear runt that only melees you you have a 350 hp xivilai that summons a big clannfear, has 50% spell absorb and a daedric weapon and casts powerful shit at you

wah wah wah wah wah

stop liking what I don't like

no, don't have fun! how could you enjoy a game that is fun!

no, the graphics are terrible, and you just have bad taste!

wah wah wah wah

You are an infantile crybaby whiner with complaints that are wholly lacking in substance. We get it, OP. You're a faggot and you don't like Oblivion. If you don't want to play the remaster, you aren't obliged to do so. Skyrim is right there.

the majority has went back to shitting on it.

Where? How? It's insanely popular, and you immediately contradict yourself.

and everyone (including Skyoblivion devs and TR/PT fans somehow sucking it off

Case in point. Your only criticism is that you don't like the visuals. Unfortunately for you, I think you're a fucking idiot with poor taste, and I greatly appreciate the visuals. And given that you don't determine or decide what I play or how I spend my time, you are welcome to go fuck yourself, autist-kun.

Nobody is reading your seethe blog

Holy buck broken

This has happened with every remake bro, remember D2R? DQ3?

Unfortunately for you, I think you're a fucking idiot with poor taste, and I greatly appreciate the visuals

LMAO HOLY SHIT

OP gets BTFO

nothing to say

results in samefagging

What a shocking surprise.

i just think its pathetic there are people that waited up to ~20yrs after the fact, all so that they could pay todd 50 bucks to have a digital copy of a game from 2006 with no mods
get a grip

they were making fun of you mate

You morrowtrannies are as toxic as the nvtrannies
Even blizzdrones are more reasonable

well at least, now that all the other retards finally played oblivion, we can now all agree that the removal of attributes in shitrim was the gayest and most completely unnecessary cut in the series history
literally just made it a worse game with less replayability and less fun

everyone who shits on my post is a samefag

Sure, buddy

Why? They were completely garbage in Oblivion and were nerfed to shit. They're complete downgrade compared to Morrowind's attributes. Might as well cut that shit if they aren't going to do them right at all. At least this way the game drops any pretense of being an actual RPG and just admits to you it's an ARPG now. Also now it's better that I don't have to worry about psychotic min maxing with my attributes. Don't get me wrong. I wish attributes were still around but they needed to completely rework how you level them up and their functions but Todd is too much of a retard for that

Oblivion is a good game
Morrowind is a fraud of a RPG game, shit in all aspects when other games like BG1,2 and even NWN did better.

Yeah but the attributes at least did something and were balanced better and didn't feel like a tacked on mechanic like in Oblivion

It didnt, all you needed to do is level spear to get max endurance, and jump all the way to level acrobatics and athletics to faceroll the entire game.

Why? They were completely garbage in Oblivion and were nerfed to shit.

no theyre not. lol in fact they work almost exactly the same. like down to the maths they use to calculate for your derived stats, even. hell, theyre almost the same going all the way back to daggerfall those calculations are actually MORE nerfed than either MW of obliv
removal of attributes is the single biggest thing that makes every shitrim playthrough exactly the fucking same.

now it's better that I don't have to worry about psychotic min maxing with my attributes

heres a little secret
you already dont have to worry about that
its totally optional and honestly the objective worst way to play the game
just dont be such a minmax sperg ffs. ive never even understood the inclination to do such a thing in single-player RPGs. nvm in games where theres so many other ways to accomplish basically the same buffs

It's a pretty bad system when it comes to leveling them up, I agree but the attribute effects themselves were actually pretty good and you could go over the cap and do crazy stuff. Oblivion's attribute effects feel weak and they don't even do anywhere near as much as they did in Morrowind. And it's even shitter how you level attributes up because now once the meditate icon appears you can't get anymore governing attribute multipliers because it's written in stone what attributes get what multipliers until you sleep and level up and start again for the next level. It's even worse in Oblivion. And they didn't even improve it at all. Clearly shows that Todd hates attributes and never care to improve them once he got full reigns over the series. And also it doesn't show you what governing attributes you leveled up during the current level. It's just pain trying to manage this shit in Oblivion. And plus the level scaling make micro managing this shit even worse. At least if you fuck in Morrowind it didn't matter too much because you'll become super powerful anyway. Oblivion makes you constantly worry about this shit and making sure you don't over level any skills when you don't want so you don't fuck up your build

This nigga still crying lmfaooooo.

morrowtrannies and obsidiots teamed up for this.

Why do Bethesda tards constantly seethe about those two games? Obsidian is shit now too so why care about them? Not everyone worships these companies like slaves like yourself

b-b-ethesda tards

hi obsidiot

What is it with niggers and their weird made up head canon?

Oh it's this seething underage retard that pretends everyone who disagrees with him is somehow a Obsidian fan despite everyone knowing that Obsidian only ever made one good game. I don't argue with brainlets or kids so go away punk

how hostile

it is unironically just the same handful of mentally ill obsidiots who hate bethesda with a passion so they spam every fallout and tes thread with anti-Bethesda rhetoric.

Most people like Bethesda or a neutral.

What kind of mentally retarded 3rd worlder shill are you? There's tons of people who hate all Bethesda games including Morrowind and New Vegas. Saying it's just one group is fucking stupid as fuck. You're the one who clearly has some weird hang ups over other games

Why am I supposed to pretend to hate this game?

It's the same piece of shit it was 20 years ago only with a new coat of paint and less compatibility issues and that is what I assume the fans of Oblivion wanted

youre not
oblivion was always great fun

the issues are more meta

is a straight port of oblivion in UE5 worth $50?

is UE5 gay?

is it worth ditching decades of mod support for the new engine?

is todd a scheisty nigger? rhetorical

what happens when the modern vidya development scene is so dead-end that a 20yo game wins GotY?

many questions
few answers

what happens when the modern vidya development scene is so dead-end that a 20yo game wins GotY?

I never asked for this but here we are. And I don't think it's squarely Bethesda's fault that a game from 20 years ago is the GOTY in 2025.

Generally speaking, that is the jews fault.

Is this game like Fallout New Vegas? I never played an Elder Scrolls game

It's very similar except for the fact that in New Vegas you are determining the fate of an entire region based on which faction you support. Oblivion's main story is a lot more straight forward than that, but there are a lot of micro-decisions in the quests that you do (like you've uncovered a plot but the perpetrator begs you to not tell anyone, promises not to do it, and will give you a reward, stuff like that). In general though, yeah, they play the same.

And I don't think it's squarely Bethesda's fault that a game from 20 years ago is the GOTY in 2025.

it kinda is tho cuz it was a gud gaem and they made it hard to even imagine nowadays

because it's the same shit with bethesda barely doing and effort to sell it to you again since they assumed that finally, selling skyrim for the 50th time, maybe, just maybe could be a bit too much. So pack this shit to some french studio to pretty it up by giving it new textures, models and what not, check the list of modern gaming like "must have sprint" and keep the rest exactly the same.

To me the characters look a bit uncanny, the new animations are not that good and since the base game is left the same it doesn't really excuse wasting whatever they are asking for it when I can just download the old one, slap a few titty anime mods and going on on my merry way.

Nobody is making you hate anything, but this is hardly a good game, Oblivion never was. It was an okay game, this is an okay game with a paint job that doesn't really do it for me. But if you wanna throw money to Todd, be my guest.

I never liked Oblivion so I hardly see the point in this Remaster of a game I never liked anyway

lol
lmao even
ok.

This or KCD2?

I don't think anyone even remembers kcd2

Why is main quest bad again?

I'm not installing your mod lol

because it's so incompetently written that you need to delve into a schizotheory about how martin is mehrunes dagon's chosen to pull it out of dogshit valley

nta, but I think the writing in Oblivion is really good, but I've only done the guild quests so far.

I did MQ back when the OG Oblivion came out, so I kind of remember it, kind of don't, but I remember liking it.

shills

Normies are shills now?

You morons and your “shill” threads. Of fucking course this place is going to love oblivion. I don’t, but I damn well know tons of others, especially here, do.
It’s like you think this place has a couple dozen visitors at day in instead of tens of thousands. This is one of the most popular boards on the site, maybe The most popular (I forget which gets more posts, but /v is damn near the winner).

they're not any better either
dark brotherhood is literally evil catholics and the dogshit plot it tries to tell is an absolute mess riding off the high of all those random self contained contracts
the thieves guild is a robin hood rewrite of a faction that was a syndicate operating out in the open to compete with the camonna tong
mages guild is a hogwarts rewrite into a faction filled with absolute luddite retards despite supposedly being smart mages
the fighters guild never had much of a characterisation so whatever but all the useless fucking guild halls aren't giving it any favours

Wasn't even that excited for the game, but decided to give it a shot and it turned out that it's actually fun. Maybe because the game itself at it's core is pretty good, dunno, but I'm enjoying it even more than I did back when I played the original in 2006.

Over-analyzing and hating things instead of just being relaxed to see if you can enjoy certain things or not (and casually forgetting about it if it's not for you) is very unhealthy. Being angry and negative is extremely unhealthy for your overall being. Here is hoping that it's a play, a role, not really negative and when the game is released, instead of all the negativity, you are content and happy (even if the game sucks, then you just move on).

Everybody's gotta take care their complexes before it gets even worse and sometimes very serious. Having a lot of internal problems must be acknowledged first, but the refusal to acknowledge and confront them leads to all kinds of neurotic behaviour.

So you like Oblivion and have clearly spent 100+ hours playing it and you're just shitting on it right now because you're bored.

you can't criticise the game if you didn't play it

you can't criticise the game if you played it fully

bootlicker

Well The Dark Brotherhood is has some so called "Esoteric/Occult" symbolism and meanings. A lot of famous stories that captivate the audiences hearts is that way too because it relates to the audience in some deeper way.

You are stuck in your head and going that way you could deduce everything to something simple and lame.

Maybe it's a you problem, anon.

puts 100+ hours into a game he doesn't like

Just admit you enjoyed it.

This remaster

not reddit obscure

symbolism

emil has literally went out and stated that he didn't know shit about the dark brotherhood when he wrote it, he outright said that sithis is god and the dark mother is mary and the listener is the pope
it's nothing but le evil catholics, nothing more, nothing less

Why does that make it bad?

because it's completely unoriginal?
imagine if the questline started with purification, it'd fucking suck because it has no sweetener of all those contracts and none of it makes any sense, he was praised for level design, not the story
yet this is the "revolutionary" writing that gave emil his ego

I don't think anyone cares about the structure of the Dark Brotherhood though. I think the reason people like it is because of the plot line. The entire organization (including you) gets played like a fiddle and is nearly nuked from within.
Of course, it was all the will of Sithis, but I don't want to get into those shenanigans.

gets played like a fiddle

you get taken for a ride by the writing that assumes you have 0 iq
why would you nuke the entire sanctuary where everyone is obviously carrying out their duties and where your actual loyal employees are aside for the muh emotional impact and not think that his proficiency means he's higher up the chain?
why would you not be able to react to the change in dead drops?
why would you instantly kill lachance when all he needs to tell you is that his dead drops went unvisited?
the plot assumes you're a complete moron, you're not the driver, you're the passenger with brain damage

oh yes, also the finale about the night mother supposedly knowing who the traitor was all along yet being so petty that she WANTED to have the entire cheydinhal branch completely wiped out because of the listener yet at the same time telling you that lachance was next in line to be listener and somehow not predicting that he'd get killed instead of you know, telling him to fuck off and speaking to lachance anyway?