I don't think people actually like old stealth games. old hitman, splinter cell, thief...

I don't think people actually like old stealth games. old hitman, splinter cell, thief, I just don't think people are playing these games for the first time in 2020+whatever with zero nostalgia and actually smiling and having a genuine time. I think you're full of yourself or like me, just trying desperately to like these games and trying to trick yourself into thinking you're having fun. When I'm playing old hitman and some npc instantly starts shooting me because I walked within 5 feet of him with a random grocery dude disguise I'm not having fun. When I'm playing splinter cell and jump for a pipe but miss and have every enemy within a thirty feet perimeter lock onto me, I'm not smiling. These games just aren't actually that fun.

Also my main complaint is the fact that these games basically have no difficulty. You need to create the difficulty yourself, such is the plague of games where you can save anywhere. You guys will just call me bad as I try to finish a chaos theory level with zero saves meanwhile you autosave every cleared room.

Well, maybe you are just bitchmade.
Also MGS is not a stealth game, it's dogshit garbage.

I never talked about mgs my little adhd zoomie

I just don't think people are playing these games for the first time in 2020+whatever with zero nostalgia and actually smiling and having a genuine time

I played the Thief games for the first time in the mid 2010s and I thought 1 and 2 were extremely good overall.
I started Hitman with 2 and in hindsight, it aged pretty badly, Contracts and Blood Money hold up, though

When I'm playing old hitman and some npc instantly starts shooting me because I walked within 5 feet of him with a random grocery dude disguise I'm not having fun.

Again, the second game aged poorly and the first game was never really an actual stealth game to begin with. If this is happening to you with Contracts and Blood Money, you need to git gud.

Also my main complaint is the fact that these games basically have no difficulty. You need to create the difficulty yourself, such is the plague of games where you can save anywhere. You guys will just call me bad as I try to finish a chaos theory level with zero saves meanwhile you autosave every cleared room.

I already create all difficulty in games by not cheesing them.

Not him but your picture has MGS 3 in it.

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MGS in the image

No, child. You are the ADHD zoomer if you can't sit on your ass for 5 seconds to wait for guards to pass.

You guys will just call me bad as I try to finish a chaos theory level with zero saves meanwhile you autosave every cleared room.

Maybe you don't like the game because you're playing it in a way that restricts your fun, anon
Do you also try to clear entire FPS levels at once? Is Half Life shit because you can save in between sections?

I don't know about nowadays, but I sure played and had fun with all of those back when they came out. I think you're just too retarded to understand other people have different tastes and longer attention spans, and brains not fried by anti-psychotics.

Played Thief for the first time in 23 and absolutely loved it, actually felt engaged when interacting with the game world and thus fully immersed
First Hitman is pretty rough, l think l quit at the second or third mission

It's not really a patience thing

and then you take antipsychotics and then and then your brain is fried and then and then

stop projecting please

i dont like stealth games

that's okay. there's numerous other good games out there to play.

Splinter Cell I never got into, I didn't like the controls.
MGS despite being a "stealth franchise" has a lot of other things going on besides stealth mechanics. It's very story-heavy.
Hitman Blood Money is really good despite its age and the HITMAN trilogy basically copied it but added more handholding.

such is the plague of games where you can save anywhere

This is a valid complaint, but at least in MGS reloading your save is clunky and in Hitman there's limited saves per level.
In Thief it's a major issue, but PC developers in general weren't thinking about saves as an actual game mechanic back then. Being able to just save anywhere at any time was considered a universal quality of life feature. It still is in a lot of cases.

Thats not even true. MGS 2 was all new gameplay and 3 even had a 3rd person view with a lot more mechanics. MGS V has arguably the best 3rd person gameplay out of any game ever made. Youre a clueless turn based tendie, thats all.

Funny that a fucking consoletoddler would call me a tendie.
You have never played a stealth game in your life you worthless cockmongler.

MGS V is the greatest stealth game ever made, in every aspect. Go play Clair Obscur or some bullshit like that like all of your tranny buddies.

Metal Gear is literally the father of the stealth genre lmao you stupid zoomer cunt

MGS V is the greatest stealth game ever made, in every aspect

That's not even true.

Go play Clair Obscur or some bullshit like that like

I don't play JRPG garbage either.

tranny

Ah, so you are an underage meme spouting toddler. As expected of a Kojima dickrider.
That has to be the stupidest thing I've ever read on Anon Babble. Please go be underage somewhere else.

Then what do you play Anon? It has to be pretty fucking good to be better than metal gear. Name a better stealth game than MGSV with better mechanics. You cant. You are a fucking buffoon if you think MG didnt define the stealth genre. Thats like saying Call of duty didnt define FPS, when it absolutely did.

Halo invented fps.

That has to be the stupidest thing I've ever read on Anon Babble. Please go be underage somewhere else.

????????? Kojima LITERALLY created the stealth genre with the first Metal Gear game in 1987 you fucking retarded zoomer HOLY SHIT

They sure as fuck didnt make it what it was today. COD4 birthed FPS as a whole and any attempt to dethrone COD has failed miserably. Same could be said for metal gear. Hitman and Splinter cell are so fucking dead its not even funny

You spend way too much time on here.

You weren't even alive back then, hell I could have been your dad if the dog didn't run past me up to your mom's bedroom.

Old Hitman was both janky as fuck and easy as fuck since virtually any disguise let you fuck around all you wanted. The only difficulty from the early titles came from the bad weapon handling, but at least they had grading elements and you had to do a mission in one sitting.
Splinter Cell and Thief are jokes that pretend to be "stealth" when it's really just making 95% of each map convenient NoTarget zones where guards right in front of you can't fucking see you.
Older Metal Gears were the only genuine stealth series even despite their very limited and arcadey nature, like the super short range cones of vision and fixed routine patrols. It had challenges of not being spotted and not killing anyone for an entire playthrough and even measures to prevent savescumming. And then it evolved, shedding those limits over the course of MGS3-4-PW-V to be the only series with truly complex and challenging stealth while still keeping a bit of the gamey elements for fun.

I can replay old hitman and MGS and still enjoy them.
I play Thief or Splinter Cell, new or old, and they're just pathetic.

You dont have to have been alive to understand something historical you fucking inbred cocksucking bitch.

I was literally born that year you absolutely fucktarded faggotfuck. I know for a fact you're a fucking zoomer in your 20s acting all cool and shit, pathetic clown. You know absolutely NOTHING about the stealth genre, Kojima and Metal Gear, I played all his games on release when you was still in your ugly dad's balls so shut the fuck up and LISTEN when older people with more experience talk and tell you how it really was

Same could be said for metal gear. Hitman and Splinter cell are so fucking dead its not even funny

Hitman has had three games since MGSV came out.
MGS is literally a dead franchise. Kojima treats it as such, he's been very unsubtle about it. He's even making a new stealth franchise to replace it (PHYSINT).

Yet here you are.

Why are you replying to OP when it's not your first post in the thread?

Settle down phonetoddler, you are going to hurt your limp consoletoddler wrists typing that hard on your screen.

That literally makes no sense. You're just AI generating comments now.

You do realize, youll be watching GTA 6 on youtube, correct, Anon? Sounds like someone is seething.

Stealth games ad just puzzle games. If you don't enjoy puzzle games you won't like a stealth game. It sounds like you're literally incapable of even seeing the games as a logic puzzle so of course you won't like them.

It doesnt matter what Hitman does. Its dead and it always was. It isnt memorable in the slightest. Slop thats not worth playing, akin to Jedi survivor or some shit like that

It was supposed to be a jab about you not understanding the stealth genre at all but it clearly flew over your head. Maybe try asking AI next time to explain my posts to you since you are clearly underage.
Never cared for GTA. What is it with you normalfags and playing the most brain damaged garbage?

Its going to be the biggest entertainment release ever out of any form of media. Commit to it right now anon. Youre not buying it are you?

You didn't even read my post lol.

Its going to be the biggest entertainment release

I agree with that.

Youre not buying it are you

No, I'm not. Like I said I never cared for the series.

Alright. Then what do you play? See you then, Anon. I will be laughing my ass off when you rush to Walmart to buy one. Its going to happen.

I don't live in a third world shithole, we don't have Walmarts.

Because being a stealth fan always required you to have a certain mindset. Hybridizing them with action games and having annoying stealth sections in games in general diluted that. Now everyone thinks they "like sneaking around" because one tiny part of some game they like has them do it for five minutes, for example. Look at actual example of a modern stealth game, like Styx example, and you'll quickly see just how many people can't cut it.

Sounds like the poser zoomer got filtered and has to convince himself that nobody is having fun playing these games lmfao

So you live in Russia? That shouldnt have been hard to guess. Even your brain has been oppressed.

no, this series has had zero improvement and evolution for the 20+ years it's been out. The first game is as good as the last game. Also the series is good apparently

This is literally what you retards are saying. Why not just admit shit like the first splintercell and hm1 or hm2 is clunky as shit? I can never take this website seriously, just a bunch of people not taking the time to read something and then calling zoomer projecting their own attention span issues

dude its le puzzle

literally never had a problem with this aspect ever, you can stop samefagging it saying it over and over like an NPC

How is Russia not third world? They are doing worse than you.

It must take a lot of work to be this stupid. I don't envy you.

Because America is a first world country. How stupid are you? With the more you type the worse it gets.

chatgpt please write me a generic two sentence zinger response

Chaos theory and blood money are peak stealth

America is a continent.
Everything is AI, everyone is a tranny. We get it, child.
No need to keep replying.

The US is commonly referred to as America and even if it wasnt, the majority of North America is first world.

Well, looking at how most of your people are doing it would be an insult to first world countries to refer to you as such.
Canada's government had some beef with farmers but I haven't been keeping track of that so I'm not sure where they stand.

Maybe if OP wasn't a faggot he wouldn't have written off entire franchises and genre based off few clunky experiences he had from games older than him. And from it just sounds like this genre is not his cup of tea but NO that can't be possible it must mean its SHIT case closed and everyone who enjoys and appreciates them must be larping

I'm op and I'm clearly not doing that. I'm not writing off entire franchises, I'm writing off their older entries. You guys are not understanding that though, like blood money is the fourth fucking game in the franchise, you can stop talking about blood money. Notice how no one is actually defending hm1 or splintercell 1 and 2? The games I'm actually criticizing? It's because you guys agree with me but need to be contrarian faggots so you pretend I hate blood money and stuff

How is Russia not third world?

Russia is literally by definition '2nd world'. That's how the whole idea of the '3rd word' came about, to refer to countries that were so povo that they weren't meaningfully allied to communism OR capitalism because nobody gave a shit about them.

My 8 yo kid likes MGS1 a lot, he plays it on an Anbernic instead of the thousands of other games downloaded on the device. There, I proved you wrong.

Don't take it so hard. It's an insult not a dick.

I never said anything bad about mgs so you really didn't prove anything

really shouldn't have used a generic "stealth games" picture considering no one on this website reads anything anymore

Imagine that, an imageboard looking at the image you post.
I thought you were stupid but now I'm convinced.

I played tenchu 1 recently, really nice soundtrack but the controls were just a bit too stiff for me to say I really enjoyed it. Also, the draw distance could use fixing, getting spotted by archers I can't even see is annoying.

yeah except no one is claiming early hitman or splinter cell to be masterpieces of this genre but you did mention thief in your post and it's literally the gold standard of stealth games

3 and 4 are much more polished, you should try those, controls will always be stiff that said

Nah I actually read your post and it was bullshit. Even new players can have fun with them. Sure they can feel clunky at times but the good ones still hold up well to this day.

What are the good ones?

MGS 2 was all new gameplay

I am laughing. He's right, the only time MGS had good proper stealth was in 4 and 5. Hell you couldn't even crouch walk until 4. The PS2 games are all the same pacman gameplay.

cope. i just played thief gold for the first time last year and loved it. it's jank for sure, but the light gem visibility and level design are still untouched to this day

not being seen and executing plans perfectly (or clutching it out) is fun, simple as

still waiting

MGS V has arguably the best 3rd person gameplay out of any game ever made.

Holy shit Kojimatards are completely delusional

MGS 2/3
Chaos Theory
Thief 1/2
Blood Money

name a better one, you can't

name a game with better 3rd person gameplay then

Thief is fantastic. Everyone likes Thief.
Didn't care for Hitman.
Splinter Cell I just haven't given much of a chance.

Hitman sucks

What's the problem here? People drown underwater.