Why do you refuse to play multiplayer in RTS?

I do. The problem is that most people are like and unwilling to actually understand how the game works.
The reason AoE2 is able to remain successful is because the development team always tries to add more SP content to the game so casuals can continue to enjoy it. Which makes sense given they’re the majority of the playerbase.
It’s the same reason SC2 has maintained any semblance if it’s playerbase despite being dead: lots of people are still playing co-op.
On the other hand the actual game mechanics themselves should never ever be balanced or designed around casual players. They don’t understand it so it doesn’t affect them regardless.

wtf why are people trying to win in a competitive game, ugh I wish they would just "have le fun"

sounds like minecraft is more your speed, zoomie

Because it's a metafag game

try learn ao2 pvp recently

turns out you have to train against bots for like 150hs before even daring stepping on ranked ladder just to be a 500 elo shitter because everyone plays since 20 years ago

jee... I wonder why not many people want to get in the genre

When a fun one comes out I might Slop of empires and Shartcraft aren't enjoyable

It’s necessary if you aren’t entertained by jerking off in your base for 40 minutes and then attack moving towards the enemy base

Most people still play campaign or AI skirmish. No one cares about compfags. You didn't save anything nor did you keep AoE2 alive.

All I'm hearing from these casualfags is "wahh wahhh I don't want to think or put in effort, I just want the game to tell me I won"

Just get you a couple of these bad boys

Training against bots does nothing lol

Imagine competing against people at something so ridiculously pointless. I had Warcraft 2 and Starcraft (and Total Annihilation) at the peak of the genre and never once played against a person.
Mods are what made those games shine and Blizzard killing them is why nobody cares any more. Just like people increasingly don't give a fuck about Bethesda as they drove away the mod makers by chasing the retard masses; destroying the very thing that would have kept them popular. Imagine refusing thousands of unpaid employees because one of them might end up becoming successful from it.

AI skirmish

impliying the AI does't clap your ass in any difficulty over moderate

nigga you asked why i don't play it online and i gave you the reason
people just want to scout rush you or some other retarded shit constantly

I hate good games

cool

because I suck
thanks for asking
I play a lot of co-op vs AI on Starcraft II though. More games should have co-op vs AI because that's still online and it doesn't really matter if you suck

Training against bots does nothing lol

It does if you don't even know how to execute a build order. As long as you don't cheese the AI it can get take you from 200 elo to at least 900

decide to play some online AoE II games a decade ago

go through the hassle of installing all the shit required like gameranger

find a map with one spot left, perfect

think i'll have to probably pump more into combat units at the start, should be fun

10 minutes later it's down to 4 players because the meta is to rush your neighbor ASAP

haven't played an online game since

Gee, I wonder why more people don't play multiplayer. I want to play the game, not the meta.

It’s because comp is the most fun way to play these games

never once played against a person

Okay then you don’t understand why these games work the way they do

I only play multiplayer RTS on LAN with my friends
Fuck online play

Then counter it faggot

kys sweaty try hard

outside of the early gamespy days it's just exploits and tryhard tactics - pure competitive cancer

DUDE you must play the first 5 minutes in a specific order otherwise you will lose

then you must follow these specific instructions for the next 10 min and then. . .

metacucks ruined online

I did counter it, but not engaging with that boring more, and going back to single player skirmish mode where I can turtle in a corner and build a cozy base for an hour or so.

metacucks ruined online

exactly

Why do you refuse to play multiplayer in RTS?

I only play RTS on lan multiplayer. Internet multiplayer is boring and filled with cheats and risks gettig malicious servers and hacks. Its always been for the retarded kids and always will be. The only possible exception is chess

The problem is that lots of people don’t know how to play defensively

These games were made back then to be played casually with your friends. The whole competitive metafagging is just a product of modern times

lol

Gotta learn the art of the stall
Punish meta fags with an impenetrable wall of defense

git gud
sure you did, sorry you enjoy the game in its most boring and basic form

You're not thinking meta enough. The real victory is to be having fun in single player while the comp fag sits there seething that he can't get a match.

I used to play at LAN parties back in college, it was great. Though sometimes you'd a tryhard who sucked the fun out.

inb4 oldfag

Because I played them in the 2000s when they were actually relevant
If you play them now it's going to be guys who have been playing them for 20 years who know the degenerate meta inside out

The whole competitive metafagging is just a product of modern times

you weren’t alive for any of these games when they were new

I enjoy tactics, figuring the juggle of offense/defense/resources.

The thing is that these games have been figured out down to the second. It's more like a decision tree of remembering tactics than having options before you and choosing to react or be creative in any capacity.

The problem isn't people not knowing how to play defenselessly, it's that thee synapse creatures which play online don't enjoy the game.

except comp players get matches quite easily?

sorry you subjectively enjoy the game differently to me

So then why are they always complaining about the genre being dead?

because i spent my teenage years getting to masters in starcraft 2 and achieved nothing as a result

faggots who are good at aoe2 have spent thousands of hours in the game and yet could not remember the details of a single game

invite a girl I met and liked to play AoE2

she sees that my username ingame is BBC_Lover

never talk to me again after that short session

She really doesn't understand the power of the best unit in Imperial age

tbf this applies to every game

BBC isn't for everyone king sometimes just seeing a grouping of BBCs is enough to get a man feeling joy

You did not achieve masters in every game when you were a teenager! You are a LIAR!

It's more like a decision tree of remembering tactics than having options before you and choosing to react or be creative in any capacity.

I mean this in the nicest way possible when I say that this is a skill issue. While I will say that AoE2 does have some chess-esque qualities to it in how you act and react, you can absolutely play creatively and win.
What you’re complaining about isn’t the lack of tactical depth, it’s the efficiency demand. Which is a massive barrier to enjoying the game, on that I agree.

I love playing noob games 3v3 or 4v4 but every game is like 40m before anything even happens and you start wondering how many other games you could have played with that time.

enter ranked

resign the first minute

get to like 200 elo

play against literal city builder players

profit

They aren’t. They’re playing their games and enjoying them.
It’s casuals that complain about the genre being dead

Quite the opposite retarded nigger, rts was thriving when singleplayer was the focus.

RTS games have a small amount of options, you're barely ever going to see anything surprising playing one that's 20 years old

rts games are particularly bad for it because they take so long

yeah back in 1995

Just the thought of having to micro multiple BBCs in a tight space between 2 castles... oh boy...

I played pvp in WC3 decades ago and enjoyed that, don't care to play another RTS just for multiplayer. I'm a casual old man now.

Fighting games are the only competitive games worth playing. There is a 'meta' but it barely matters, it's just pure mechanical 1v1 skill and psychology

Because im bad at the genre and prefer the casual pace of turtling and slowly overcoming the A.I. because its comfy

some of the best fun is joining a team game and building palisade walls around your allies resources

RTS games have a small amount of options, you're barely ever going to see anything surprising playing one that's 20 years old

factually untrue

I tried to do fast castle with that tutorial.
I absolutely can't do it.
It takes super-human reflexes and photographic autistic memory.
Playing at a mediocre level is hellishly difficult

Have fun without me

Galactic Battlegrounds sequel when

Well if you're the type of guy who gets excited when someone puts 3 workers on gas instead of 2 maybe

Hasn't experienced MAXIMUM comfy AoE2 campaigns

damn bro they're the best part of the games

My favorite thing to do in the original Red Alert was to just build a barracks, and spend my entire income on basic riflemen, and hide them behind every tree on the map.
Sure you SHOULD win the match, but I hope you're ready to spend an hour or so scouring the entire map to get that W.

When they can only admire your BBCs from a distance due to your superior strategic placement of BBCs

You do realize that half the reason shit like AoE 2 and WC3 flourished so hard was play variety right? Everything from campaign, co-op bot stomps, custom scenarios, teams, 1v1, free for all, and any other variety of methods cast a wide as fuck net that could pull in a whole variety of players. It was interracting with this content and wanting more that allowed for the compariably small minority of super competitive 1v1 players to find new people and grow. It was only in the post Star Craft era when everybody just chased esports releasing barebones stuff that only appealed to that did the genre loose half the player base, and cut off that trickle of people willing to get that invested.

i cant enjoy online multiplayer the jews have won things like random packet loss get to me too much

kek
i did similar in AOE III, with the UI minimap you could hide units in the corners and they were not visible because they'd be under the dogshit UI, people would try find you for an hour then quit

Nice get.
Also choosing to play as green, blue, or white depending on the map so that your units just look like terrain on the minimap.

It was only in the post Star Craft era when everybody just chased esports releasing barebones stuff

I’ll be honest, looking back I think a lot of that was just a cope to try and deflect from why the games were so content sparse.
The actual reason is that the budget for RTS development dried up up in the late 00s for a variety of reasons and instead of saying “this is a cheap cash in” they tried to frame it as “focusing on competitive play”

its compfags that killed RTS. Every game needed to be starcraft or aoe with optimal balancing.

Never ever, disney would never allow it. At least there is expading fronts I guess

Literally never works.
Whenever a nigga tries to do that just do the monopoly victory or get spies to see the edges.

I played starcraft 2 in multiplayer and I never ever want to play RTS in multiplayer.

It does work, but you have to do it at a specific area

Galactic Battlegrounds DE never ever

I fucking hate this gay earth. Then again, I also don't want any shit from the sequel trilogy tainting it.

Because I'm bad

Sweatlord mad everyone knows he didn't keep the game alive.

repel only wave of knights the AI sends at you with pikemen

It's just that easy.

Always found RTS games too stressful to play online, the only one I enjoyed was World in Conflict