What went wrong?
Planetside
spawn in
get raped by faggot who has objectively better weapons and armor and gear because he's been playing for longer and it's a f2p game with p2w/power grinding elements
close game
The high player account basically meant the game needed like 30,000 players constantly to have the worlds actually populated.
terrible performance for the longest time, still runs not great unless you have a nice beefy CPU
absolutely abysmal monetization model and new player experience, you are objectively stronger as a player if you've played for longer
monetization models seep into the game itself- there is no point to actually trying to map paint (the point of planetside) outside of alerts, people would get mad at you for ending fights because kills are how you farm (funnily enough you used to get the premium resource for holding territory but they hastily changed this right before launch lmao)
there's no real metagame at all for a game about a live service constantly running war, doing pretty much everything feels pointless, you can't even get temporary wins, again, outside of alerts, which never really felt like a war given they suddenly just stop once time runs out, no cross-cont lattice and thus no moments like planetside 1 where you literally push the enemy off of a continent and then go through a warpgate to stage an offensive at the next one
speaking of, a lot of the fun mechanics of PS1 just aren't there- everything's been immensely simplified into eternal space BF3, you just pick your loadout and click heads. thats it
i guess tldr
bad perf
victim of the f2p p2w wave in every way
fighting is meaningless, not very strategic, and unrewarding
only feels like a war due to player numbers
mechanically derivative and not super interesting outside of being big
it ran like shit.
also fuck the vehicle balance, vehicles in a combined arms game should be relatively squishy and open to getting fucked if a player goes over-aggressive but plane and tank dads are both whales and extremely protective of their "farming trillions of infantry plebs" power fantasy so instead we saw things like "fighters can survive a direct hit from an anti-tank missile" and "tanks can now take a thing that lets them survive getting C4'd"
The enjoyment you get from this game solo vs in a clan is astronomical. They needed to make it easier to play with large groups, there has to be an easier way than, going to a third party fourm and sending in an application and waiting three business days for a response.
wrel.
nah the game sucked shit in pretty much exactly the same way before him
play beta
a lot of fun and you can unlock stuff fairly quickly
game launches for real
increased the grind x20 so people have to pay money or get absolutely rinsed by players who already paid
Wasted potential.
What went wrong?
2
you are objectively stronger as a player if you've played for longer
This seems perfectly fine to me.
I'm okay with being roflstomped if I get to roflstomp later after 500 hours
this dogshit mentality makes your dopamine dependent on crushing newfags which will slowly stop existing as the game dies so you'll just be miserable
it's ass in battlefield where you can get everything after a week of grind and it's incomprehensibly more ass in a game where you can play for thousands of hours and not get every relevant piece of equipment. a bit of progression of some kind is okay, only being completely well-rounded after months and months of play or paying is not
for me it was vehicles. Really annoying to be in a huge fight, assaulting a base for hours only to have a bunch of tryhards solo flying in liberators, abusing harasser or ASFs with shotguns or equivalent...even magriders retards shooting from 2km away and dodging every shots...
3 years later I can still see myself suddenly getting one shot by a faggot with canister
pay2win
fpbp
this is pretty wrong
besides a few exceptions, like maxes and some vehicles, standard weapons are generally top tier and "upgrades" do very little
some weapons are also very cheap like the standard bolt actions for infiltrators
what a dogshit opinion. p2w is p2w kys
you could make a case for armor/ability upgrades or that implant shit they put in later on
weapons you're talking absolute shit : they're all sidegrades
it's a combined arms game man, being adaptable can be very nice depending on what you actually want to do. there were plenty of times where after grinding for a gadget or particular weapon, certain things became much, much easier. when the game came out you needed certs for each individual C4 brick on every class. you needed certs for a lock-on launcher. you needed certs for the red dot and fore grip you were certainly putting on your gun. you needed certs to make your tank capable of anti air or specialize it against other tanks, the latter of which being probably the most important thing for your tank to be able to do.
and GOD FORBID you say "i am bored and would like to try a new gun simply for fun's sake" because that shit is going to put you out of 1k certs which did not come quickly to the casual player. "uhhh but you can just click on heads with the orion dude" is such a disingenuous way to brush off the sheer scale and depth of the potential grind ahead of you if you're not content with just ivi, and even then unlocking shit like resto kits and the commissioner and resist shield were huge for that back in the day
auto-guided rocket launchers
INVISIBLE ONE SHOT SNIPERS
I remember trying this out once, and trying to help a bunch of other players protect some location. It was about 10 players in a building, getting spawn camped by a couple enemy tanks and it was the most boring shit Ive ever seen.
certain strategies also only become available if everyone in your group has an expensive weapon, like coordinated phoenix/lancer strikes for NC and VS
the crown belongs to the tr
ps1 was so good. i must have hundreds of hours on it. ps2 on the other hand is trash. even not even mentioning any of the bad business/monetization decisions the actual game is fucked. extremely bad netcode or something. the shooting feels bad. the dying feels bad. the animations are bad. its like battlefield if it had 10% budget
you make it sound like the difference in power between players was astronomical when it usually amounted to 1-2 more bullets needed to kill someone
for ESF, standard nosegun and standard secondary are usually the go-to options
a brick of c4 is like 200 certs and foregrip and laser sight do fuck all in the grand scheme of things
implants are complete bullshit, tanks did require a better secondary weapon and AP is usually the best option, maxes did need a bunch of shit to work properly, but if we're talking random infantry just no : the power spike you get from upgrades is minimal
Catering to outfits means it's just no fun to play with a small friend group
This has been the case for what, 9 years now? Whenever the gay forts became a thing
john smedley
the power spike you get from upgrades is minimal
Apart from the GL but they had to nerf it to shit, god forbid the humble LA be useful
the shit you get is genuinely very helpful and the cost adds up over time. you constantly run into scenarios that are like "this would be way easier if I had X" and then you grind for hours, get it, and you were right, it's way easier now.
yes you can headclick with a default carbine, but you'll be able to last and fight for longer if you have medkits. you'll be more manueverable if you have an upgraded jump jet. you'll be able to deal with parked vehicles you stumble across better if you have C4. there's constantly little moments like that.
putting a foregrip and compensator on your weapon generally makes them all much easier to run too
i didn't really play during the worl era but one thing that I know he did that I like a lot is impulse grenades. took light from "slow verticality gimmick class good in very specific situations and otherwise just play fucking HA" to an actual mobility class that has significant unique strengths
good writeup
It's literally a decade old, it did well for what is was trying to achieve. So I guess a lack of more funding and technology.
This was the real problem. The progression was HARD locked behind paying if you didn't nolife the game WHILE contributing a lot. This meant as a new player you're throwing fucking lemons at a mech with minmaxed armor and weapons, you finally get the mech and you're throwing oranges instead.
Vehicle progression was EVE-tier evil in how long it took to get anything meaningful for them, and we're talking about things like meta weapons buried dozens of hours into grinding and even things that were considered necessary. If you hadn't farmed enough to get those crucial things, you were cannon fodder for paypigs.
Daybreak ruined the game and likely ruin every property they touch.
Huge Mosquito pilot back in the day. One of the top fuckers. I could do all the major air moves like reverse fighting and shit. Joined BuzzCutPsycho's "The Enclave" and did my part. Fun times.
Game died for me after a major patch that released a bunch of Pay2Win anti-air shit, and a lot of balance changes that made the game super unfun.
Also at some point people just stopped using proximity voice chat. Go ahead and download the game, then run around and try to talk to people. On average it'll take 2 hours to find someone who will actually mic up. No joke gamers are anti-social losers these days.
Looked at when some multi-million sub youtuber tried it out and had his fans jump in and apparently there's motherships and shit now with mega aoe death beams that kill everyone in the zone.
Game just fell off.
Also cheaters. People were magic bulleting all around. I got bored and suicided my account by getting on the "commander" chat that broadcasts to the entire faction and just fuck niggers and fuck bronies and shit. Got a few hardware bans, spoofed back in, grinded back the currency to unlock the chat channel, did it a few more times, then never looked back.
Buzz and his clan play Star Citizen now, but he's old and not himself anymore, and let in a bunch of furries and actual faggots which made all the based lads leave or get kicked.
Buzz mellowing out and becoming a space dad is maybe one of the funniest things I've ever heard. Far cry from carpet bombing a funeral.
upgrade my old toaster and finally get a stable framerate
gun suddenly shoots twice as fast and kills planetmans in a fraction of a second
What a silly game.
Nothing, it's a live service game that's long in the tooth and nearing the end of its life. Tinkering with weapon stats is not going to fix the game's fundamental issues. What needs to happen is Planetside 3, with weapons and abilities which reflect modern shooter sensibilites (Planetside 2 is stuck in BF 3 - 4 era), incorporated the lessons learned of years of battles and network architecture that can actually support the massive battles it was going for on release. It's unlikely to happen though, its owners don't have the will or the capital to do it.
Well in Star Citizen he's mostly concerned with the richfag ships for more PvP power and what not so he let in all the faggots and furries and because us right wingers are usually poorfags he kicked us out because we were upsetting the homos too much.
Also he banned a bunch of people during New World for saying nigger. Dude got mega-fucked by the senator being upset over the WoW trolling shit. If he'd have doubled down he could have had "THE" video game clan for freedom of speech enjoyers.
the senator being upset over the WoW trolling shit
I've never heard this one.
imo planetside 2 could never "become a great game" and that was obvious to me like 2-4 years after launch. The people who made the netcode were contractors, the engine was spaghetti, the leadership were snake oil salesmen promising absolutely impossible things in the far future like AI enemies everywhere in a game that already ran poorly on modern CPUs and seamless ocean travel from continent to continent.
The MMOFPS needs a ton of money and extremely competent programmers to put out a good game, but it's a perpetually unproven genre so nobody will ever be willing to take the risk. the era of crowdfunding massive projects like that is pretty much over so there's no hope in the near future I think.
Oh yeah him and his WoW guild dressed up as "ghosts" for a Halloween contest on their server and some senator-nigger got upset that they were reenacting a KKK white supremacist thing. I wasn't with them for WoW so I don't know too much about it other than all the normalfags he invited ditched him over it and formed their own nigger-clan to raid.
I feel like history will just repeat itself and all the furfags and homos will leave his Star Citizen clan over some bullshit.
it's way easier now
I think you're overstating it
the difference between spending 10 certs or 1000 certs on your jump jets amounts to about half a second of longer flight
I get that there are thresholds, like having double C4 sticks which you should be aiming first thing, but it's usually pretty fast to get there
How did no one else make a planetside like. Game was such a good time back in the day.
true mmofps games are extremely expensive and difficult to make
hostile light assault trooper spotted
P2W was never an issue until the more recent update that added in those lootbox powerups
Greed, and mechanics that facilitate that greed.
I sucked at this game, but I had fun.
if you added anything like the grind ps2 has to a modern pvp game the developer would get justifiably eaten alive
Also cheaters. People were magic bulleting all around
there was an outfit on my server that I was 99.99% sure was just straight up cheating. Im talking getting quad headshot to death by the HA before I even round the corner on my end
Game died for me after a major patch that released a bunch of Pay2Win anti-air shit,
l o l
Aything that requires 24/7 attention is going to be less popular than more casual games, which is why extraction shooters surpassed dayZ likes, people need downtime.
I feel like you really want MMOFPS games to be a constantly evolving front but seeing the fronts massively change over night because some guys didn't sleep is kinda wack. I'm not sure how to address this.
...Maybe if you had separate daytime and nighttime servers?
2k hours here
NC was by far the best faction in terms of weapons and vehicles. I have no idea why the Vanu were considered OP when NC had the best ESF, best MBT, best carbines and the best assault rifles
the orion mostly helped by moments when the VS were not just OP but cartoonishly OP like the zealot overdrive engine
Seriously. Beta and very early release were a blast. What a fucking waste.
dopamine dependent on crushing newfags
there's an addon for the game that gives you a medal if you kill a low ranked player and they close the game
t. 25k banshee kills and complains about the game being dead
the grind was EASILY the biggest death nail in the coffin for this game. It should not take a month of consistant play to unlock 1 ONE 1 gun. And it should not take 5,600 kills (no it doesnt count assists) for an auraxium weapon
Hackers and mountain climbing Magriders.
Also the lack of missiles for the Skyguard turret.
mfw TR MAX with 2x pounders
play beta
get in a liberator
zephyr cannon is the default, anyone can live their AC-130 dreams as long as they can afford to spawn the lib
play base game
lib has a machine gun turret and if you want a cannon on your gunship you need to pay a shitload of certs
that was the precise moment I realized what kind of game this was going to be
It should not take a month of consistant play to unlock 1 ONE 1 gun
you get like 100 certs per hour
you get 200+ certs if you win an alert
how the fuck does it take you a month to get 1000 certs
you get like 100 certs per hour
this was not true back during release. Certs were so comically difficult to get that people would wait until dead hours to trade capture points back and forth to farm points and you would be lucky to get a 100 in a day of play
Sony greedy - released game way before it was ready (but the cash shop was up and running!)
Daybreak incompetant - couldn't balance a brick on top of another equally sized brick
I liked drifting the hover tanks up cliffs.
Tango Mike
EYES ON ENEMY HEAVY
broooo the magrider was OP because it could climb le cliffs
magrider climbs mountain
shoots towards enemy tanks
hits maybe 1 in 4 shots since the shots have crazy dropoff
tank just backs up behind a rock and heals
meanwhile
playing my NC character
grab vanguard
flip on retard shield
charge enemy tank line
kill two lightnings and another MBT
still at 50% repair
the only ones that got fucked over were the TR because the prowler sux
prowler was fuckin annoying whenever it was good, more of an artillery cannon than a tank
the prowler sux
*shoots you from another region*
nothing personel
the prowler's sole combat niche was the autists running HE, parking on a cliff, and then spamming shots at the spawn room in 12-24 fights lol. Fuck those retards there was always one somewhere and they had like .1kpm tops
failed to understand why ps1 was designed the way it was + poor performance.
I wish they didn't get rid of the rock bridge between TI Alloys and the Crown. Or replace Subterranean Nanite Analysis on Hossin. As underground pits of death go, I liked attacking/defending SNA way more than the newer Containment Facilities.
runs like ass even on a decent pc nowadays.
I will never have as much fun as I did with Magriders back then. I loved getting them in places that I shouldn't be in then dying to a C4 fairy.
It was just fun.
John Smedley, Matt Higby and Tramell Isaac are making a new MMOFPS game.
load in during low pop hours
look at fights
hmmm weird nobody is taking the biolab
spawn in, go through TP
go to capture point
instantly killed by scatmax
go to different fight
several hours later check back on the biolab
the scat max is still there killing one random player every 10 minutes
genuinely what causes this kind of behavior?
RISE TO THE MOMENT, YOU CAN PREVAIL!
Vaniggers are handheld as fuck and keep killing good balance decisions with their subhuman retarded tantrums while at the same time bragging about how much better their shit is all vaniggers deserve to swing from a tree by their neck, the only respectable factions to play are TR and NC
Yes but who is the 4th mystery nigger?
DISTINCT POSSIBILITY
First PlanetSide was great until they added the retarded mechs. Never went back to the franchise. Can only imagine how bad a zoomer filled skinner box a F2P sequel is.
sometimes i listen to the ps2 soundtracks once every few years and goddamn they're still good
vanu in particular, but TR is good too, and all the idle 'traveling' music
every faction got OP shit wdym? There was several months where the NC had a battle rifle with such insane damage that it could shoot down libs and kill lightnings. So you had squads of engies roaming around murdering everything
nigger detected, will not buy
Vanu weapons were the worst though, aside from that one LMG that had a heat meter instead of ammo. They had the worst DPS, just no bullet drop which was apparently enough to balance them. Magriders were cool too until they got completely gutted.
nigger detected, will not buy
He's based. He was the lead artist on Fallout 1+2 and Neverwinter Nights 2. And then was the art director on Planetside 2 as well.
PS2 is a numbers game most of the time
if you give 100 retards high damage low accuracy weapons (NC), another mid damage high accuracy weapns (VS), and a third group high fire rate low damage weapons (TR), the 2nd group will win just because they can put more lead down range at a decentish accuracy.
And then was the art director on Planetside 2 as well.
Yeah, I know how that went.
Standard weapons are top tier.
Have you played the game? Being infantry without c4 was fucking pain. No idea if they changed that nowadays but it was basically required when storming bases. Which is 95% of fights.
This is what you think is happening
but what is actually happening is this:
spawn in
get raped by faggot who has downloaded cheats
close game
remember that in most online FPS games 20-30% of the playerbase are cheating
In planetside, the fights are bare minimum 60 players on each side, the big fights are over 100. So if only 1% of the playerbase are cheating, you're running into cheaters in every single fight
take two seconds to glance at the leaderboard of a given fight, the first 3 people are almost guaranteed to be cheating
and this is the actual reason nobody plays FPS titles anymore, except they've been convinced by cheaters that the cheating is just sweats playing really good. The reality is that it's all cheaters and it's been cheaters for decades.
run into some dude at BR1 with a crazy high KD ratio
run into him a weak later and he is 30 levels higher with a new LMG on his HA
run into him a month later and he is BR 60 with the auraxium LMG and a KD of 9
I never knew if he was cheating or not but his name was funny enough to remember. GG AquasInvisiblePanties I enjoyed putting an end to your farms with my boltie
oh man I remember playing and hearing about that buzz faggot
he was the penultimate self-important tryhard boomer-tier beerbelly edgelord
Yeah, I know how that went.
That was all SOE and Daybreak. It's not like he could have really declined making that shit, unless he wanted to lose his job.
tfw got crazy good at this game only to be skillcapped by having 200 ping at all times since my home server died
True enough I suppose. The unique weapons VS had were garbage on an individual level, but if you had a coordinated squad of people with Lancers you could put some absolute pain on anything.
you're not allowed to talk about that
3k hours
never learned how 2 ESF beyond farming infantry
you are the retard that contributed to killing the game
the fact they pushed you out because "waaahhh people can kill me now" is a good thing. The fact it took a decade for them to get rid of you is the real problem.
I played this back when ass cancer man did a promo for it. was pretty fun but the cert grinding was cancer so I stopped
Goddamn, what a nice shot.
The people who made the netcode were contractors, the engine was spaghetti,
If there's one thing they did right with this game it's the netcode and engine, you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about
I don't even understand how the game fucking works. 300+ people in a single fight with ballistics simulation on top and it looks and plays almost like a singleplayer shooter except the odd rubberband is fucking black magic
implying this will release any time in the next decade
lol nope
I did the sniper aurax and burned out so hard I havent touched the game in 5 years lol
I have no idea why the Vanu were considered OP when NC had the best ESF, best MBT, best carbines and the best assault rifles
Because they do not in fact have the best and this is just you having brain worm problems
Vanu win the majority of fights on every single server
They literally have the best equipment but you played vanu and can't wrap your mind around the fact that you had it better
if it were like you say and NC had the best everything, then you'd expect to see NC being competitive and winning a majority on most servers most of the time - but that's not the case, in fact NC comes dead last most of the time, and vanu first most of the time.
no he's absolutely right, unlocking new stuff takes months of play, more than that if you aren't no-life ing the game for 6 hours a day.
Good times.
I blame the devs for this, players who aren't high-ranked in Outfits are forced to make solofits to access everything. On a good day it's possible to max out most resources but even then some assets are now gutted/neglected by the shit devs.
You are an actual moron
the vanguard is again the worst performing of the 3 tanks though relatively competitive with the magrider, and the prowler is so far ahead of the vanguard and magrider that it's basically double to triple their performance in infantry, vehicle, and air kills
Go and actually look at stats instead of what you imagine is real in your head
They have been working on it for 2 years already. It will probably release before 2030.
This is just straight up a lie. Vanu did have the worst equipment with a few outliers and suffered the most nerfs on top of that. Vanu only won because they had outfits that played to the objectives more and had chinks that played at night to cap stuff while no one was there.
UH, ALL THE VS OR VANIGGERS AS I LIKE TO CALL THEM, GET OFF THE CROWN BECAUSE IT'S FOR TR ONLY, UNDERSTAND, CAUSE IF YOU DON'T I WILL MAKE THE VANU SLAVES AGAIN!!!
Because they do not in fact have the best and this is just you having brain worm problems
yes the fuck they do
reaver had the best thrust so it could outduel anyone and is still the goto tryhard ESF
Vanguards were the best chokepoint breakers by far
a single NC scatmax could hold back an entire zerg rush at a chokepoint
best carbine selection and their starter is still the statistically best in the game only beaten by its auraxium counterpart
assault rifles were all god tier especially the reaper
meanwhile the best guns for the Vanu are the Orion + auraxium version and the pulsar C. Pretty much all of their stuff was various degrees of mediocre and didnt feel fun to play compared to NC guns
I'm in a literal jet.
When a SINGLE
and I mean
SINGLE PERSON
Can just insta-lock and rapid fire 5-6 rockets that 100 to 0 me, why the FUCK would I ever use an aircraft ever again that I sunk thousands of hours between waging to grind out?
My entire grind got instantly nullified because someone swiped for a free win gun. I was one of the TOP PILOTS in the TOP guild on the BEST server. Completely fucked by a p2w weapon.
If I wasn't a faggot nigger wagie at the time I'd have just grinded something else. Thank god I'm a fucking famous jewtuber neet who doesn't have to fry tendies or bag groceries anymore.
I'm fine with anti-air, other pilots, and anti-air vehicles preventing me from air-raping everyone. Not when "le random footsoldier with instant ttk p2w cash shop weapon with damn near infinite ammo" can solo an entire squad of flyers.
Like even random dipshit solo tank fuckers driving in the middle of nowhere would just exit the vehicle and then PEWPEWPEW and there's no counter play. Just 100% fucked.
no I agree with you, the netcode is incredible for what it is, but the game was always clumsy to play and they struggled to optimize it, I remember they repeatedly made optimization passes and that entailed removing the vast vast majority of props from every map in the game. the game was an achievement but it never felt like they could make it much more than what it was in that form.
I'm not sure if the Prowler's stats are accurate considering most of the time they're huddled on a ridge farming kills in lockdown mode.
This is a really good airchav impression. After all these years it still makes me laugh.
Can just insta-lock and rapid fire 5-6 rockets that 100 to 0 me, why the FUCK would I ever use an aircraft ever again that I sunk thousands of hours between waging to grind out?
if you mained the mosquito then this literally never happened because the launcher that does that is TR exclus-
fuck I fell for bait RIP
I'm talking guns, I already conceded items do give a substantial power boost
oh look the team that made the bad game is making a new bad game
fuck off, ruined planetside's name with chasing that "battlefield moments" motto
my favorite tank dad moment now and forever is the time where i disagreed with a friendly NC tanker bitching about how a single player shouldn't be able to kill a tank with C4 (this requires the tank to stand perfectly still for the amount of time it takes for a player to plant two bricks) and his response was to hunt me down and teamkill me
Not at the time.
I found my old screenshots. :)
They had the worst DPS,
No they fucking don't. VS weapon lethality is identical to TR guns in a vacuum. VS then get the benefits of no projectile drop, higher projectile velocity, much faster reload times, and lower/less erratic recoil. For every VS gun with a slightly slower ROF (and equal/better everything else) to an equivalent TR gun, VS have another gun with matching/superior power while still having those VS benefits, but the thing is they don't need that slightly higher lethality. Because of the chunky health and high value of headshots, accuracy is king for infantry, and VS are the kings of accuracy. NC and TR lose more fights because they're more likely to miss shots.
There's a fucking reason why infantry weapon kill trackers have several VS weapons way above any of the other two factions' weapons in total kills and KD ratios, why the NC pick very specific guns for different situations to maximize their already higher advantage up close or their excellent long ranged options, and why a lot of TR use NS weapons instead of their own faction's gear.
VS have ALWAYS had it better in every aspect that matters.
Look m8 you have brain worms
wins the most across multiple different servers
This means the population differences are controlled for, the only thing that is the same across all the servers isn't the people, it's what they're playing with
which means any faction that routinely wins the majority of the time across all the servers has some systemic balance issue that's catapulting them ahead of the other factions, and it's not revolving around the skill levels of the players.
You can do that with every tank, but prowlers are just better at it, as well as everything else. They got buffed so they 1 shot kill ESF's for example, which used to be something only the vanguard could do (magrider just can't aim high enough), but a prowler gets 2 shots per reload whereas a vanguard gets one shot.
And then they gave the prowler an overshield like the vanguard used to have (which they gutted/basically removed)
the prowler is in every single functional way a better tank and it's not close. Any stat you compare shows it's not close.
i miss my AP Lightning with the drift chassis
that was fun
how the fuck? I would literally call people niggers in /yell and I never got banned lmao. You must have been a turbo sperg to get banned
dont matter when I crush you with my galaxy tankcel lmao
Vanu stuff is burned into my brain. Still, the NC OST comes with a free air-guitar
VS show up higher in stats so much because all the VS are cheating niggers.
Here's another.
yeah the vanu stuff in particular whips me right back to the sweltering hot summer of 2012, shit's crazy. especially the traveling music. funny how music can do that sometimes, send your brain back a few decades memorywise
It was fun seeing a conflict escalate from 1v1 to biggest battle on the planet
oh look the team that made the bad game is making a new bad game
Surely they will have learned valuable lessons from their previous mistakes. Surely.
Yeah really. No bullet drop makes it way too easy for the cheaters to aimbot everything.
VS then get the benefits of no projectile drop
99.99% of fights are within 2 meters in a closed off pillbox idk why TR/NC retards think this is some crazy strong thing only the VS get. Whats funny is that the no bullet drop would be crazy good on bolties and then the VS just dont get that effect on their snipers except for their ultra shitty one
ps2 is clientside and both bullet drop and velocity are irrelevant when you can just tell the server you shot someone
I remember kamikazing into streamers with proxy voice chat screaming the N word, and flipping peoples shit in the warp gate and them seething about it.
Man I need a new game to grief.
2012+13
NC, VS, and TR are still arguing over who has the best weapons and that they're the actually the poor waifs with the worst weapons and the real underdogs
real niggas realized you could play engie with the underbarrel grenade launcher and have infinite grenades to spam into chokepoints
I've long thought that PS2 is unintentionally one of the most amazing experiments ever in taking a whole shitload of people, telling them they're on Team A or Team B, give them shit that's 99% equal other than the color, and watching as they organically band together to invent new slurs for how much they hate the other guys.
AC-X11, my beloved carbine.
I wish I could port it over to my other faction characters.
this time the guy that told Higby to do 2 factions will convince him and everything else will remain a sauceless modern shooter with no sandbox
NC have the best guns but lost every alert because they were subhuman retards and highschoolers
TR had shit guns but that didnt matter when their outfits were obese milsim larpers dropping 24 HA giga sweats with MSW-Rs on a 12-24 fight
VS had largely mediocre guns and a few really good ones except they had chinks who would play at 2 am and win all the alerts during dead hours
You don't need to argue about it, the stats are available for everyone to look at and it turns out vanu are well ahead of everyone with their guns and vehicles excepting some cases like magrider vs prowler or scythe vs mosquito
Planetside was so much fun 22 years ago. Blowing up the Fagriders while flying a Reaver. Pinnacle of fun!
reminder that planetside 1 had cross-faction looting and you had locker containers that specifically existed for you to hoard loot that you liked using
seeing grid inventory was not in PS2 was the moment I realized that it was going to disappoint me
I had a locker full of Jackhammers for indoor fights.
Nothing, really. Games have limited lifespans. PS2 lasted a long time.
try to join battle
multiple airshitters farming ground kills
every anti-air weapon in the game has been nerfed into the ground so a 3 person plane requires the organized combined effort of a dozen players to kill it
if it does get killed the airfaggots just spawn a new one instantly
i had a bunch of repeaters because I thought they were cool and no other reason
Airshitter with A2G weapons
any tank with HE weapons
NC scatmax
the trifecta of unfun cancer
This is why the Walker is the only correct choice for Sunderer top guns. I've wrecked so many A2G shitters with that thing.
nothing. The game has been milked all it could. It was a unique experience but it's quite dated at this point
But this simply isn't true, or else you would see differences across servers with different geographical boundaries, e.g. the european servers you wouldn't expect to have redneck hick retard highschoolers who you think are the entirety of NC's playerbase for no explicable reason
Instead we see that it doesn't matter what geographic area you look at - whether it's european players, american, or south east asian the consistency in performance remains the exact same, with vanu leading ahead of every other faction in wins by a significant margin.
vanu do not 'have better players' they have the best equipment and stats on everything and you're too stupid to figure out the difference
nah Vanu just had chinks that would only play during dead hours so it inflated the statistics
You now remember that the vanu's original color scheme was purple and teal and VS shitters cried until their faction color was changed to grey
what the fuck are the sources of these statistics anyways?
god I love being a Vanu nigger it feels so good to be a part of the master race
But that's fucking wrong. If you just go by raw DPS they're among the worst and damage drop off happens faster negating any range advantage you'd have. In a straight 1v1 fight a Vanu player will lose EVERY SINGLE TIME.
Fucking hell how is it 13 years later and people still don't get this. Yes I played all 3 factions. I had a decent feeling for all the weapons. NS weapons were a lot of the best options for a VS player. The two outliers being the semi-auto snipers and the Betelgeuse.
Everything.
terrible performance
for 6 months any vehicle that got within a few hundred meters of TR had a dozen strikers locked on to them
VS MAXs could warp around and run down any infantry for like 9 months
Was 0.75 ms ads Orion real?
tfw have to pay extra just to get back the proper faction colors.
NC max with mattocks and slugs killing you from an entirely different postal code
Ive been 1 shot by those faggots on the other side of a biolab jump pad seriously fuck those faggots
I made a video that's just clips of shooting down ESF's with a vanguard for 10 minutes straight
youtube.com
It still brings a smile to my face to see them getting blown up
Orion originally had great ADS but like everything good Vanu had it got nerfed into the fucking ground
the betelguesse nerfs were fucking brutal man. Its now worse than the orion lol
get the betelguesse after several hundred hours of grinding LMG kills
/yell my achievement
fucking Wrel of all people says congrats
still one of the weirdest coincidences to happen to me. Wish I called him a nigger back then
IMO, Vanu should have had a heat mechanic for all of their guns. But that would have been a nightmare to balance. People bitch enough already imagine the whining about VANU DOESN'T NEED TO RELOAD
got that black and blue camo on my NC
put on a suppressor
laugh as I watch VS start spinning around trying to find me when it gets dark
Was pretty cathartic.
There was some lithuanian youtuber that would make mlg videos of planetside 2 that I would watch all the time until he vanished
What went wrong?
Most retarded balanced class that ever exist in history of multiplayer fps games, hated by everyone (exept infilniggers mains) that devs dont want to nerf, but insted keep buffing for uknown reason.
Game looks and run worse every big update.
Annoying air with super mobility (at least you can see them and make them ro fuck off with anti air)
Constant nerfing stuff that should not be nerfed and buffed stuff that should not be buffed
This what game looks like over 10 years ago using todays trash gpu
m.youtube.com
He thinks Infiltrators are OP
That might actually be the worst take in this thread so far.
but enough about heavy assault
the only thing that was unbalanced with infils were the faggots named xXx_PozzedLoad69_xXx running around with the SAS-R/TSAR/Ghost 24/7.
xXx_PozzedLoad69_xXx
Lol, lmao even
What went wrong?
infiltrators with SMG's
overpowered implants
easy to hack / undetectable aimbotters for years
was fun anyways till the pop dropped and chink hackers took over
also this
perma-vehicle players 'farming' every fight really turned the game into a piece of shit
vehicles were way too durable and way too powerful, way too rewarding for their cost
but he's old and not himself anymore, and let in a bunch of furries and actual faggots which made all the based lads leave or get kicked.
Oh hey dude I was in the Enclave for like 4 years and got in pretty tight with buzz and that clique.
The reason why Buzz surrounds himself with furries and faggots now is because he is a furry faggot. He sent me a bunch of home made bestiality shit after I jokingly encouraged him to do it. He trained his dogs to fuck people and has probably terabytes of home made dog porn of men and his gf(s?) being fucked by the animals he owns.
That's why he lives in an isolated rural compound with a weird semi-cult group of polyamorous weirdos.
His whole persona was really entertaining for me, but he sort of freaked out when we had a falling out and tried to delete all the animal porn he sent me on discord.
I didn't want to destroy the clan though, even after I got kicked out, so I never did an expose. Just letting you know now if you happen to still be in the thread.
It doesnt really matter, accepting the idea of paying for an advantage is a very cultural thing and westerners typically hate that type of stuff because it is unsportsmanlike. Its only big in some fucked up asian countries where they see it as a sign of high status because they can afford it or whatever.
The only game i can think of that really gets away with it is Rust where some skins have a very minor advantages in some very niche situations. The most egregious of those being skins for armor that act as camouflage which make you less likely to be noticed when someone is panning the camera around but still visible from like 200 meters away so its not that big of a deal.
this post
I think he began purging the 'og' lunatics when his lifestyle began circulating as something more than a rumor.
I wish I was kidding. I must have said the magic words one day because he went from being 'himself' to being extremely gay bestiality top towards me. I let it go on way too long because I genuinely really enjoyed playing with the clan, and at first I thought he was kidding, so I encouraged him to get more disgusting, then he started sending me actual homemade dogporn.
is there any proof of this?
'ate vanu
'ate NC
'ate NSO (not clankist, jus don't like'em)
'luv me dakaa
'luv me other dakka
'luv me pocket engie
simple as
if you're in tight with the inner circle I'm sure they could drop some hints
I never kept the shit he sent me on my computer for long, and shortly before he 'summary executed' me and kicked me from the clan, he purged our discord history.
I imagine that if enough people reported him on discord for illegal content (bestiality is a federal offense in the USA) he might get actually investigated. I'm sure its still in their database, even if he deleted the convos.
Might be funny.
Buzz was always a nasty fucker. He had a bunch of gay ERP going on with his clique also.
If you guys ever wondered why those chicks stuck around, it wasn't just the whole force of personality thing. They were gross ERP/beast bitches.
The fact that he moved the clan into star citizen should be proof enough that he's deranged and in some sort of spiral.
they were too cheap to get better servers to run the shit so it don't turn into a slide show
Vanu did have the worst equipment
I'll slit your throat shitnigger. The reason the best clans picked vanu was because they had the BEST stuff.
Sony going batshit crazy over the permanent-trial-weapon bug and taking all your upgrades, and potentially your other weapons. I had not unlocked much before I was hit.
one of my favorite games of all time, thousands of hours just living it
all gone, like dust in the wind
Can you still take a liberator to max height and then rain death onto enemy spawn areas from outside render range.
That shit was funny. Too high to render any players or explosions on the ground but that didn't stop them from dying to the zephyr
the year is 2025
I am still healing people in a small T-intersection that serves as the entry to a base
Release me from this hell
Ausfag
suck shit but have fun on Briggs
leave and come back a few years later to see Briggs is dead
play Emerald for a few months and get pretty good, but the ping is annoying me
switch to Connery and get truly hooked
manage to get good enough to trade blows with Recursion fags and other sweat clans on occasion but am too autistic to bother joining them
Connery gets noticeably deader when PaleN1993rrr and his mouthbreathers leave for Emerald
stop playing
I want to play again now that there's a server merge but I can't risk getting addicted again in case I get a job because the server would be dead by the time I get home outside of weekends.
I need to see what the stats are on Anon Babble
reply with:
your main faction
your main class
your favorite gun
then there's real players who are just happy with their long range decimator skills
Seeing someone with the auraxium decimator was like seeing a unicorn I have no clue how someone doesnt go insane doing the launcher auraxium
main faction
TR, did dabble with the NC for a bit
main class
light assault
favorite gun
didn't have one, just used what i though was cool
The dynamics of how the game is played changed significantly. I would have already mastered it if they implemented that shit years ago when the game was more popular and people were doing ridiculous armor columns at places like the Crown. Everything went downhill once Daybreak bought it, I feel like the "death" point was ANT mining base building shit.
If you weren't there on day one, if you weren't there for the 24/7 Crown meatgrinders, your opinion on this game is invalid.
Also fuck T-Ray.
faction
split between NC and VS. I like NC's vehicles and guns more, but VS has the most nostalgic soundtrack. Never played TR much outside of alts.
main class
RELAX, IT'S NOT A CHUMAAH
gun
Reaper DMR, my beloved
your main faction
VS
your main class
Infiltrator
your favorite gun
Phaseshift
I would spend hours farming hundreds of kills while hiding in Hossin's trees at NC vs TR fights just plinking away with my infinite ammo phaseshift
I think carriers were the worst thing ever.
I don't think you could have bought c4 directly : you still needed certs, and you could only gain certs in game
you can make a case you could have bought xp boosts and it's undeniable paying will give you some kind of advantage, but in a game like this the advantage it gives is very minor in most cases, unless we're talking vehicles or maxes
moreover there were no "daily limits" which are common in p2w games : if you no-lifed the game you could deck out a class in a week
this before implants btw
The most egregious of those being skins for armor that act as camouflage
ye that's bullshit
my point being, if you die in this game or have bad stats, it's very likely NOT because the other guy has better gear
only time i had fun with the game was during open beta and the first year after release
crown slugfests were goated
terrible performance
It was commonly 100v100 on a good day during its time. You can't expect a complete potato to run it.
Been playing off and on since the Tech Test.
TR
Engineer (99% of my playtime)
AMR-66 Rifle, NSX Naginata LMG and TORQ-9 AR
Also favorite vehicle: Valkyrie with the Hover frame and a Lightning with Skyguard
smedley
Game will probably be shit but fun for a bit at launch. Hope Higby comes back to shitpost with us on Anon Babble like the good old days of /ps2g/.
Nothing, it just wasn't that fun. Everyone was still able to play it if they wanted to, but only the hardcore fans wanted to. Every casual left because it gets stale after 100 hours.
I like how their faces are still the representative images of TR, NC and VS.
That must mean the guy on the right is Nanite Systems.
i never bothered with inf and it always felt like the only people who frothing mad about it were HA mains who take everything head-on and go on tilt when something kills them before they can activate their shield or start chugging medkits.
like it's annoying to get sniped out of the blue but for the most part they felt pretty manageable. most infs you run across aren't competent enough to snap headshot you the second they see you and if they cloak vaguely nearby you should know exactly where they are.
new conglomerate
light assault
AC-X11 for stats, fortuna for the impulse launcher
The problem i experienced more often was how long it took to get to the actual battles, sometimes it would take me forever to get to the heart of the battlefield, i don't like that, it's a waste of time i want to spawn right where all the activity is, also playing this game without a squad makes it even harder to get to the battles.
The ones who were competent realized SASRs were super battle rifles before battle rifles were a thing. Getting one headshot and a follow up body shot was doable inside of a ping window. Only shitter TRs and VSes (the vast majority) complained about not having bolt actions to start with.
it always felt like the only people who frothing mad about it were HA mains who take everything head-on and go on tilt when something kills them before they can activate their shield or start chugging medkits.
I mained infil and I got so many ragetells by quickscopping HAs and ending their sweatspree. All the low zoom scopes were for shitters so I only used the default 325 cert scoped sniper which made them even more mad
but muh one shot kills
indian scamming everyone equally
Sounds about right
This and the 100gb download each time you had to open the game
When I was in there I'd always talk about how "white women fuck dogs" and "they're never beating the allegations" and he sent me shit, but it was a shit post, didn't ever get the impression he was into it or whatever.
I always got the impression he cares for animals more so than most people, but doesn't really show it much cause he wanted to be a mega-space racist, but I guess that's just the IRL to online persona contrast.
I miss being in that clan, but at the same time in the 11 months I was there, I didn't make a single friend. Even though one of the officers lived literally down the street from me, they all hated me. Oh well, curse of being a jewtuber I guess.
I got a similar treatment, one day him and the officers were all mega-jannified over dumb shit. Like I tried to post a picture of a bag of onions (that looked like titties) and discord auto-jannied it, so I cropped the image, and they got all butthurt about it. So much for freedom of speech. Just kinda weird, cause I hung out in voice calls for HOURS every single day for 11 months straight. Just a light switch flipped.
Fuck Natir and fuck HazMoses.
TR
LA
Jaguar
though I only need like 500 more kills on the TRAC-5 until I get the TRAC Shit