Nvidia plans to cut RTX 50 series GPU production, focus on AI

Well first they need some games

company who hasn't made gpus for 5 years cuts back on gpus

ok

Probably nothing important. No one needs to upgrade to the 5xxx series and they'll still be able to buy them, might cost more though.

do not care

They better have the 6000 series around the corner then.

AI is a bubble.

Good. Nvidia fanboys deserve the worst.

lol

what gives less supply with the same demand?
not just 50 series

For the non autist/tranny audience, they have the same games as a PC. The average person doesn't care about your copy of Rimworld with 9000 mods.

esl yes

What products are driving these Ai focused sales? I don't understand what these companies are making or how they make money from making it.

AMD won by doing nothing

It's all datacenter sales.
Datacenters make money using and selling your data.
Biggest example is Google. They are buying tons of Nvidia cards to train their new search engine.

Doubt, nvidia as 88% of gpu market

Even they know that the 50 series is trash. Probably has terrible sales as well.

they're going to rush out the 60 series now aren't they

blackwell confirmed blunder

No one wants 4nm++++++++++ with a housefire connector. They'd rather use the chips for the memetech gold rush. Nothing about this is surprising

I doubt it. They're just abandoning the gaming market.

This *might* get better if TSMC gets more capacity or if another foundry comes up that can do the newer node processes. But currently it seems like only TSMC is capable of doing it, even Intel can't get chips produced correctly at scale.

I thought AI demand was starting to plateau but I guess not. AI is going to pay Nvidia more than gamers can so they have no motivation to give the gaming market anything. We're just getting the scraps of their extra capacity at the foundries.

Not just them, everyone involved in AI. If Dongalf Blumpf is serious about the Palantir stuff you can add it to the list. Not to mentions it's basically confirmed that Chinese datacentres got mass Nvidia chips too through loopholes to drive their own surveillance.

Not to mentions it's basically confirmed that Chinese datacentres got mass Nvidia chips too through loopholes to drive their own surveillance.

Oh what? Got the deets?

Their usual trick is to start releasing super and TI versions of cards or Super TIs.

or if another foundry comes up that can do the newer node processes

Didn't they say they're investing billions into making a new factory in New Mexico or something?

Right, which is why they will not attempt to sell any more gpus than they have to especially with the industry in the dumpster

The American foundry will always be -1 of whatever the home ones are capable of.

I'd kill for a carbon footprint study on collecting user data to watch them scramble out an answer to libs, but I'm sure big tech will do everything in its power to not allow that study to happen.

It's not like these bleeding edge cards make much of a difference anyway, nobody is buying them because the cost to value ratio is fucking borked beyond belief.

Your computer will be computed by AI
Every calculation will be a diffusion neural network. You won't have hardware,.you will have AI. This is the future Nvidia wants.

you will have AI

peak E = mc^2 + AI energy

People who say this shit and compare AI to NFTs are smoothbrains huffing industrial levels of copium.

Or you know, trying to get an easy (You).

Watch Nvidia price out the RTX 40 series within the next few months once the 50 series sales plummet. GPUs are going to be a luxury item soon.

RTX. It's off.

nvidia objectively loses money by making gamer gpus especially at the lower end
gb206 which makes 5060/ti is 181mm2 which sells for $430 at msrp at best assuming none of those are fucked and have to be downgraded to a non ti
a 5090 is 750mm2 and has a msrp of $2000 which is more profit per silicon size and all the add in shit like the cooler and pcb
not to mention that the 5090 itself isn't made deliberately, it's made of the pro card runoff that couldn't make it as pro 6000 that sells for a blistering $8565 msrp and it's in way higher demand than the 5090

would you even buy a 50 series GPU? even if 40 series could not be found, Nvidia is eating their own company right now by literally giving their market share to AMD.

I think the holy grail of the silicon valley technocrats is to wean the populace off personal computers completely and move us to centralized cloud-based services over which they have total control.

Its really over, isn't it? AI, cloud based, digital only with digital ID to access your device and internet is coming.

PC has no games, and no, console ports don't count.

Nvidia quitting before gamers gain the ability to gen entire videos of AI porn locally

OMFG SAVE US INTEL

good
tripple A goyslop devs (((curry niggers))) should be forced to build their games to run on rtx 5070 level GPUs

that wouldn't be too bad honestly
amd is amicable enough to their partners that they're the de facto soc manufacturer
valve trusts them
microsoft trusts them
sony trusts them
all the handheld pc makers trust them
nvidia has fucked over literally everyone they've ever worked with to the point where no one wants to work with them and their best business partner evga just up and left
one must wonder how much money they've tossed at nintendo to accept all the ewaste samsung deals they had leftover instead of using the vastly superior 2.5x denser tsmc 5nm node

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Windows-only_games

pc has so many games you have to obsess with the few it doesn't have to justify a console

The rapid advancement of information technology might be one of the worst things to happen to humanity.

These "people" are only aware of hyper mainstream AAA slop. I pity them.

A mass return to consoles.

you fuckin retard, no one who has played on a great pc ever went back to a console.

Yep sorry guys I bought a 9070XT this time around and shit when down BAD for NVIDIA...I didn't mean for this to happen...the 9070XT was just cheaper...and better...

You lost, enjoy paying even more for PC parts and still having no games.

again, we have so many games that you memorise the ones we don't have because you're obsessed

No games

Gets proof

N-no! YOU lost.

Kek. Goodbye, consolekek.

there is a nonzero chunk of population who buys a flagship prebuilt, never uses the pc features and then gets bullied by a psycho girlfriend out of using it
that's the rare exception where the console to pc pipeline goes backwards

emudeck lets us play pretty much any game that has ever existed in a relatively simple package. WE won and you are the pajeet

diffusion

how is it in 2021?

Happy about your bucket getting more popular, eh?

amd is shit
nvidia gives nothing

Remember when the 4000 cards ballooned in price about 6 months after release? That was because of a production cut

I'm a total layman but I thought the main reason you don't see Nvidia SoCs is they can't produce x86, and ARM is still nascent in the gaming space. I also thought AMD was shit when it comes to selling to system integrators which is why Intel still has so much market share in the PC space.

you won't be entertained and play videogames because there's no GPUs

you won't have a job anymore because AI does it for you

what the fuck do the jews want from me then?

I bought a 5090 even though I only watch porn

I don't understand what these companies are making or how they make money from making it.

They aren't making money, they're being sold a promise by companies like Nvidia that if they just keep buying and integrating AI more and more and more eventually they'll be able to fire all their workers and pocket more profit.

enters a thread about pc hardware

calls others mad

Even if a company switched to only creating ultra expensive products - wouldn't this just balance itself out in the end as the years tick by where the "older" ultra expensive products become cheaper and then users can afford them? It just means all consumers will be using products that are 5 years old where they're affordable.

And from there, another company pops up to create the cheaper products that actually compete with those 5-year old products.

In other words it doesn't matter how expensive a company makes its products, if there's demand for a cheaper version of it then we'll eventually get it through time.

AI use the Maxwell chips though. The ones powering the 50 series.

Death, duh.
The end game is to clean world from useless eaters like me and you and replace all workers with mindless half life 2 stalkers.
This is our future. This is where tech bros will lead us.

I am fine with this if it means they sell more cards with more VRAM at better prices. It's a scam that only the 5090 had decent VRAM. And I don't need all that gay gamer anti-aliasing whatever stuff, just hand over the VRAM. Give me a 128GB VRAM card that's 2k or less and not quantized.

But then how will the line go up?

GEN your porn. You're have the highest-chance among us of successfully creating your fetishes in video form. Use ComfyUI or something, my last Nvidia GPU is dead.

Give me a 128GB VRAM card that's 2k or less and not quantized.

that card would sell for 4x more than that on the pro market you retard

Explain to me how you think that them making less of their new cards will somehow give you a better and cheaper product instead.

What do they do with the edge parts of a wafer that don't create a square?

We don't think about you at all

lmao
Good one

The 50 series was a stop-gap anyway. That's why it was on the same node as the 40 series without a die shrink. This is also the reason why the performance uplift and power consumption were so dogshit, since they didn't go down in terms of nm.

There’s demand for a thing and no shortage of raw materials but the market won’t produce it.
This is your so-called “free market” libertaritards

trying to boughted a 5090 with paypal credit!

Nvidia doesn’t give a shit about fucking Steam survey charts. They could switch places with AMD and still pull vastly bigger sums from AI. Nvidia isn’t a GPU company anymore, it’s an AI accelerator company. The quicker third worlders on Anon Babble pick up on this the better, I’m tired of reading these 70 IQ copes on why team green stocks are low and drivers horrid shite.

So we just gotta hold on for another 2 years and hope that the 60 series will be actually good, and exist in reality.

They'll be able to stop talking about memetracing and 8k grafix and just put everything into VRAM, the only thing anybody actually cares about.

I already did with the ps5.

what do you expect them to do with it
it's cut off and thrown away mostly because it's highly unlikely that it's cut off in such a way that they can downscale it to a lower tier

Still better than buying AMD no matter how bad their drivers are.

Why in the fuck would they bother with that when they can sell the same chip to ai retards for 10 times the price.

Why not make the wafers square then? You don't see mother-glass for TVs being round.

what do you expect them to do with it

I dunno, glue them together?

dot-com was a bubble, but that didn't mean that massive internet growth didn't happen. Technically, you determine if a sector is in a bubble by P/E ratio, and a number of AI-focused companies have completely absurd P/E ratios. That doesn't mean AI won't be transformative and lucrative.

These guys can make the line go up

the problem with this is that this is literally basing all your eggs in the AI basket: if it goes well, you win, if it goes bad, gamers will burry you so hard not even archeologists are going to know you existed. You will be the next Adobe.

No game worth playing requires more than a 3060

I'm an idiot about PC hardware. Why is VRAM the be all and end all for GPUs? Surely all the other components matter too?

not klarna?

Did you read the OP? Prices will go down as supply goes up, and right now VRAM is the bottleneck. If you can't run a game on a ~70 series card your game is SHIT anyway.

6060 8GB VRAM you know it will happen

lmao no just look at the other reply I got. Brand loyalty, a staple of slave races btw, ensures Nvidia can always just lean back if AI buckles temporarily.

Why not make the wafers square then?

They would if they could. Half the reason there's such a push for smaller nm nodes is probably so the squares become even smaller and there's less waste.

That sounds like a problem for next year. Who cares about anything that doesn't boost current quarter profits. (And more importantly, current quarter bonuses)

aside from the founder's bullshit, cards are lower margin products which is why most boards are sold by third parties. if nvidia cuts GPU CHIP production that just means less video cards for everyone regardless of trim. that means they will sell less cards at higher prices across the board, you brown brained monkey

The PS5/SeX are how old now? 5 years? Explain why the price hasn't dropped yet, furthermore, explain why the price has risen for both? And that is with both Sony and Microsoft making 99% of their money from software sales and subscriptions. The truth is most of tech companies have a monopoly in their niche or are in cahoots to set prices. Nvidia won't give you an affordable 5090 in 5 years just as they aren't giving you an affordable 3090 in 2025. In fact, expect to pay more for less and expect to get gaslit about it with whatever bullshit *current thing* excuse they come up with. It's covid, it's the chip shortages, it's inflation, it's the Ukrainian war, it's the tariffs, etc...

Can't Anon Babble go just one day without freaking out over something that always turns out to be absolutely nothing when you take away the concern shilling and bullshit headlines?

Game requires 9gb vram

You have 12gb - you run the game at 60 fps

Same card but you only have 8 gb - You run the game at 3 fps

6060 8GB VRAM you know it will happen

Of course. You wanna do AI on a budget? Fuck you bloody. Pay the VRAM tax.

no one who has played on a great pc ever went back to a console

I have.

Lisa Su made the 9070xt which is the only GPU you need

what?
do you think nvidia is skimping on vram because it's expensive and undergoing a shortage which is objectively not true? and not because giving too much to consumer gpus cuts into their pro market?
they're quite literally telling you that they believe 8gb of vram is 50 bucks as seen on the 5060ti variants

40 series was probably the last card that any person would ever need for 10 years for 2k gaming. no games will push that ever besides unreal sloppa and if you're playing that you need to get your priorities straight

9080xt 32gb coming soon. Thanks for beta testing.

some random whore rather than ruby

business to focus on what makes the most money

No shit

So they're not making anymore 40XX cards and the already sold out 50XX cards are going to be sold out for even longer.
The only fair price you can achieve at this point is robbing cards from someone's home

glad I got my 70 ti already. its going to shoot up in price now

ITT a whole lot of extremely salty AMDrones.

that's azula but 3d you dummy

6060 will be equivalent to a 5090, you will see. 8x framegen and new 144p dlss 5.0 required

when a nibba gets a loan, lives like a king for 3 months and then has to pay back 20k while unemployed, this is not acceptable and we all laugh, but when Ubisoft makes 10 slop-flops with 20 000 employess, taking billions of loans and living 3 months like a nibba.... this is fine?

As I said, not ruby.

There’s a silicon shortage. Much like how covid made people buy new PCs, but even worse considering now it’s governments and billion dollar companies racing each other with AI models. It’s more comparable to buttcoin mining, exponentially increasing national power draw and all, except on a governmental scale and stock exchange level investment.

thats literally how tech businesses operate. theyre charity cases for investment capital and only some of them ever end up making money. its just make-work for techbros while they pretend theyre any better than someone on welfare

I'm fine with that as long as it lets them make more pro market GPUs, some eventually dribbling down to the enthusiast market.

haha you'll never afford it nvidia will just pocket the profits

good thing I have lots of nvidia stock then. Gaymers don't need 32GB VRAM, let's be honest, like NVIDIA is being, by saying that it's only AI enthusiasts who deserve >12GB VRAM.

Unified memory is the future for AI, it makes no sense to use dedicated VRAM for AI applications

All you gotta do is fire 50% of those people and you will see the line go straight to the moon. Leave it to next quarter to figure out how to make a product to sell after firing all the people making it.

If Nvidia GTFO the gaming market there's a huge chance of gaming actually healing since most of the CANCER doesn't really work on AMD cards. No RTX, NO garbage post processing, no garbage hair, No lumen.

We are going back bros

while they pretend theyre any better than someone on welfare

the kicker of the story is that the nibba took only 20k in debt while Adobe/Ubisoft/... they took billions in debt

They are already selling the 6000 series data center cards.
The 5090 is not a cut down 6000 pro, it's a failed 5000 series data center card.
The 6000 pro is the next gen chipset that consumers will get in two years.

you don't get it
they're decoupling from the gaming space altogether

The 6000 pro, which is whatever the next gen chips are just started shipping to preorder customers.

The 5090 is not a cut down 6000 pro, it's a failed 5000 series data center card.

The 6000 pro is the next gen chipset that consumers will get in two years.

wrong
they call the full gb202 pro 6000

exist in reality

At some point Nvidia has to put it out, even if it's just to keep AMD at a distance.

Then PC gaming dies with them as nobody in their right mind would consider AMD or heaven forbid Intel.

amd derangement syndrome

50 series already dead

60 series next year, even more power hungry with even less performance leap than prior generations.

The obesity is radiating out of your post.

I can't wait for the 6000 launch where Nvidia ships literally 0 units and just markets it as a hypothetical card.

How's that under 10% market share doing for you lisa?

more of a performance leap (in AI)

Just get a $40000 card like Nvidia wants you to. What are you, poor?

when it works out for a company, it really works out. it helps that these firms make sure theres nothing else to compete with their investments

How long did it take for you to adjust your low IQ mind to AMD CPUs or are you still rocking an Intel chip like a deranged child with a credit card? Give the answer in years after Zen 2.

SAAAR

Oh no!
Wait, I don't care.

until UE6 comes out and runs like shit with "just" 32gb

Why no 9800X3D?

Libs wouldn't care and would just rationalize it as a necessary cost to make sure chuds don't do a heckking racism online or some shit.

I sure hope it lasts and doesn't start getting all burny on you. Nah, that would never happen.

Good fuck nvikikes
My next gpu might be an amd once my 4070 becomes obsolete for 1080p60fps which is in 10 years

AMD doesn't have majority market share in cpus either.

LMAO he already needs DLSS for Stalker 2

SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR

Buy AMD.
Literally every single complaint people had about them is fixed. Stop suckling at the teat of this fucking scam company that doesn't want you as a customer and just buy the competitor already you god damn inbreds.

Moore's law is dead, the PS6 is going to be a PS5 with AI cores and a $999 price tag.

These firms, even Adobe have essentially no product. I do not want to go switch tab to the last conversation i had on Anon Babble about Microsoft, but .... they quite literally are a company on paper and are positioning themselves in a very bad/meme spot in the future. All of these companies are going for some investors hypothetical money, when all of their products and the products people actually use are like 10 years old. Ubisoft has not made a playable game in 10 years.... its all a scam.

1080p

2010's ass resolution lol

Literally every single complaint people had about them is fixed

They can do raytracing now?

and yet intel is going bankrupt and chewing through their CEOs because of how hard they're spiraling

Buy AMD.

It's literally impossible to buy the Nvidia card that you want. Gamers are not the ones that are moving the needle.

intel 14th gen

I'm sorry

Not what was asked. So you consider product quality directly proportional to the amount of sold units? Interesting philosophy. Lets see that hand and socket.

I can't, all AI stuff is optimized for CUDA

but but gayming

gayming doesn't need more than a mid-range card

I think the point of the Titan class cards was that they allowed people to do some semi professional/hobbyist work like 3D rendering, gamedev, etc... ontop of running vidya for the next 5 years while still being somehow affordable. Anyway I find it incredibly talmudic to purposefully cripple the cards with shit VRAM just to fuck with poorfags who want to run local models. The XX60, XX70 cards are plenty fast all things considered, it's infuriating that they are purposefully being made obsolete like that. It's like buying a V6 engine car but the manufacturer made the transmission dogshit because some people might have too much fun with it.

Noooo you need to play at 4k!!!

Now you need the new nvidia gpu to run your game at 4k!!

Fuck off nvishill

They're probably back to the drawing board and cooking up RTX 50 Super

Moore's law is dead

a retarded saying that no one spouting it understands
nodeshrinks are taking longer but by all means they're still big

I'm a gamer, not an investor. Why should I care about my hardware manufacturer's market share?

Noooo you need to play at 4k!!!

yes

Now you need the new nvidia gpu to run your game at 4k!!

no

No. Read the fucking article you fucking retarded nigger.

just 2k is fine. 1080p on any modern widescreen just looks like shit

Moore's law is dead,

Grossly overstated. Area scaling continues, FMAX improves, new xtore topology improves cost per xtor, etc. Big companies bloviating about the death of Moore's observation are just lying to the consumer to justify price hikes and keep investors happy.

game devs do tho, because a copy of rimworld with 9000 mods will keep someone entertained for possible years, that effectively takes someone out of games market and removes the amount of money that would be spent on buying games.

Sounds like a skill issue. I used to gen and train loras just fine with a 7900 XT and last I checked AMD cards perform better with LLMs

Sorry but i'd rather play at 1080p ultra settings 100+fps than 1440p60 or 4k30 with the same gpu on the same graphics settings

Why is every company going apeshit over glorified text predictors?

buy a 1440p oled and just upscale

It's not dead as long we start counting these 59 other things than what the law is talking about

Nvidia will abandon gaming and this is just one of the steps in doing so. I don't know why this is so hard for you faggots to understand instead of arguing theories and possibilities about probabilities.

My 1080p monitor works perfectly even after being dropped
I'm not changing it
It just works
I even regret upgrading past 60hz because now going back to it sucks

FOMO. Better invest into current trend now and just sell out just before the crash.

Its not a law. Laws are immutable and permanently true, Moore's Law was never a Law, it was literally a guess.
Process nodes keep advancing, and the advancement is not stopping. SRAM scaling slowing for a couple gens is also coming to an end with new libraries. You're doing nothing but repeating marketing drivel that Nvidia uses to justify $2000 consumer GPUs.

theres no "new thing" to invest in. smartphones have been stagnant for a long time and they needed a new bubble something fierce. it has nothing to do with utility and entirely about pushing something to get investors interested in dumping their money

So what you are trying to say is, it's dead and you are just inventing a new law with the same name to use instead.

i want to see them do it
come on jensen, bite the hand that fed you for 20 years after one year of harvesting the golden goose's eggs

Doubtful. They want their name on customer-facing hardware, it's the same reason Microsoft keeps the XBOX going.

I'm saying you're a gay retard that needs to stop mindlessly parroting things you lack the IQ to understand
We will have CPUs and GPUs with 300m xtors per mm2 and you gay idiots will still sit here and listen to leather jacket chink telling you that area scaling is a thing of the past

They'll soon release a reskinned 5000 series, call it the 6000 series, and retards will buy it despite having 0 real hardware gains over the previous generation. But by god I hope they just stop making any consumer GPU's, it would be funny.

This is a sub 70iq opinion, the same shit can and was said during the crypto boom and if Nvidia was dumb enough to bet it all on their main money maker they would have gone bankrupt.

AMDbros, how are we feeling?

As an investor, pretty good

the rise of the midwit and enshittification of technology.

300m xtors per mm2

But is that double what it was 2 years ago? No? Then it's dead and retards like you should stop treating it as if it was ever something real and important.

Pretty good as usual.

glorified text predictors are still a better use of hardware than improved gaytracing

yes you dumb shitskin

That is why they are going so hard in on ai shit right now. Gotta sell those overpriced cards before the crash and they become worthless.

easier to put into every piece of technology you mean. gaytracing is only """"useful"""" for a small segment of consumers. AI can be put into just about anything

if you're an elite huffing your own farts maybe

moore's law is dead

t. jensen after releasing three 28nm generations

it's the new tech fad, the last one was the cloud or blockchain or some shit, they'll move on when the next fad comes around. Investors love that shit.

cloud

Thank fuck we're past that shit

You are saying that now, just wait till chatgpt 6.0, now with traced words and 4x generated word count.

Nvidia doesn't care about gaming anymore. AI makes them WAY more money. Every bit if silicon that goes to an RTX gaming card instead of a Pro AI card is losing them money.

AI will go on for a lot longer since you can wrap it up with the fake urgency of "national security" now. it all plays in nicely with chiner being the big bad enemy. once government money gets into the picture, it'll be around forever because investors love that sort of stability. just look at tesla

this is a short term view and it may lead to a repeating of the past where Intel made fun of AMD for being a much bigger company, until Gen 13 processors came along and Intel is still trying to come back up

companies are run by boomers, boomers dont understand technology so if a snake oil salesman comes along and tells them the fourth industrial revolution is underway and feeds them an analogy about horses and cars they will open their wallets and invest.

I have a 6700 xt do I get the new amd card or wait?

wait for the AMD Supers xd

They will maintain a foot in the game industry because they aren't retarded.

udna will be a node shrink and the unfucking of their compute on consumer shit
this whole time amd has been running on hardmode trying to match nvidia's ai gimmicks

A company only thinking about the next quarter? Preposterous!

Something fishy is going on at TSMC. They physical and theoretically shouldn't be able to get the yield they do. But they keep doing it with no end in sight.

Gamers are the most prosecuted group of people in all of history

Any idea when we're getting these UDNA gpus?

They physical and theoretically shouldn't be able to

Dumbest post in the entire thread
Go watch some Advanced Materials keynotes, you dumb nig

Ai isn't going away. As long as they can figure out ways to replace salaried humans with AI, it's going to continue to grow.

Its stalled at the moment. Biden forced all these DEI policies on them through law. TSCM walked away basically saying "if we have to hire niggers this is a waste of time". Trump cut the red tape but no one wants to go all in if the red tape is gonna be reapplied in 4 years.

oh i have seen how much it has replaced humans... lol.

UDNA consumer GPUs will probably be late 202 or early 2027. IGP arch is staying RDNA 3.5 for the time being even next gen Medusa family chips retain RDNA 3.5 arch, so UDNA isn't ready to integrate into their full product stack next year.

If they ever came back down to msrp, the 9070xt is a good card.

So glad I didn't get on the fake hype-train that is the 5000 series. Nvidia is truly an awful company. Name one other company on earth that could survive with a business model at its core where you just take a fat shit on your costumers and still succeed.

Hope I live long enough to one day see Nvidia go bankrupt.

Cloud didn't go away, everything is 'on the cloud' now, just the word went away since it's less cool to say 'stored on a computer that isn't the one I'm using'

article with no source

author is Irish, so probably typed it while drunk

Anon Babble eats it up and goes "AMD ONE, GUSY!!!!!!!!"

Arizona.
It never stalled, ever. The plant is open, fully staffed, fully tooled. The Biden admin did virtually nothing, TSMC just told America that cost to produce equivalent chips would be 30 percent higher here.

The copious and bold claims about cloud did go away and it's all a lot more realistic now, at the very least.

Microsoft
Apple
Adobe
Warner Bros
Google
Amazon

i really hope that they'll actually make a fuck nvidia tier shader die with udna
imagine a 600mm2 monster that just fucking stomps and is no longer a huge waste of money because it can be sold to the pro market

source is a fucking chan board

AMD financially is now a 20B+ a year company, and growing with newer acquisitions. They are raking in money. They're never doing to price position a card lower than what its worth given the rest of the market.

Some cloud concepts are viable, like offsite storage and low power workstations, but cloud gaming is retarded and a gyp. Even streaming off a powerful gaming PC across the same LAN, it has glaring issues. When you factor in the internet, demand from other users, and so on, it's substantially worse.

Will intel save us?

reduced shipments for the RTX 50 series in Chinese markets

Aren't the Chinese not supposed to have access to these GPUs to begin with?

i don't mean price wise
i just want to see a monster shader that nvidia physically cannot match because lol monolithic

Intel might totally kill their entire GPU division in the next 2 years given all the management shakeups they've had recently. They're a failing company internally.

imagine giving those terrorist jews money
do you want your pc to explode?

by the time ps6 is out. FPS standard will be 60 this time for sure

No no, you just don't understand. What the Chinese can't buy is the RTX 5090. What Nvidia is selling them is the RTX 5090d. It's totally different.

Nvidia kills PC gaming with something called demand destruction. AI bubble pops. Nvidia killed former golden goose. Nvidia fails if cash cushion go bye bye. A company at that price better have multiple revenue markets outside of industrial shit.

60FPS with frame gen, resolution scaling, terrible frame times, and normies will still buy it anyway

In the CPU market, it's either them or Qualcomm, and ARM has major compatibility issues.

FPS standard will be 60 this time for sure

Actually 15 fps but with framegen

It's going to happen, you know it.

yes

AMD makes the best gaming cpus now

no. It'll probably be the chinese in a few years.

Apple and Qualcomm are never going to be true peer competitors when it comes to high performance computing

have you been living under a rock and didn't notice X3D completely stomping intel into the ground?

AND who?
A hentai artist is beating Intel how?

Ehh, I haven't had an Nvidia GPU in years, at this point it just doesn't make sense to buy unless you're some kind of third worlder buying them to flex on the other poorfags.
They're like the guys here in the west who spent hundreds of dollars modding and decking out their PS3s and 360s back in the day to flex on the other consolefags.

I have AI fatigue.

who gives a shit?
the 50 series suck dick you are better off switching to AMD

You're thinking in terms of alternative media and anonymous sites like this, which are short-term benefits of a dying era of the internet. The long-term consequences will be totally centralized cloud-based platforms feeding AI-generated information to us based on AI-generated psych profiles of each user. It will be impossible to verify the truth of anything, and you will just have to assume your tech overlords have your best interests at heart (they don't).

dlss is the future. i cant go back

Looking at the absolute state of videogame releases these last few years, I may never have to buy a GPU again.
I mostly emulate and play older games or indie stuff
I'm free

investor money is basically infinite because it's all being printed by the fed and pouring into their pockets

they keep investing to grow companies etc. but the problem is that these companies are shaping themselves to suck on the government tits not from selling things to actual humans and the problem is that the government money is rapidly approaching a point of no return (arguably already past it) and will be worthless in the near future without something crazy happening.

and then these companies are aimed at sucking down investor/government money but have no products to sell to actual humans and thus have no income when the government/investor money is gone

this is how nvidia looks, it's how microsoft looks, it's how IBM et al look

I need my frameslop!!!

and pay to play online

no thanks

Unironically. Even though I like the frame gen fine, the biggest difference is the complete absence of jaggies better than any other AA. DLSS glitches are so fucking minor in comparison to even AA-reduced jaggies I turn that shit on every single time I can

Don't be retarded. I'd rather remain free than to get spitroasted by assholes who are actively hostile towards their own customers (The shit Shitendo has pulled this year alone is more than enough to make me pirate everything they make forever).

Sometimes I wonder if Nvidia intentionally made the 50 series shit so they had an excuse to cut the gaming market off and go all in on AI shit.

AMD wins the gaming arena

Where the fuck are all the 9070 XTs then???

If Jensen does it, Nvidia will collapse WHEN, not IF, the AI bubble pops. The signs are already visible.

I don't understand the push for AI and why so much money is flooding into it. How do they plan to monetize it?

It's in their best interest to keep AI out of the hands of consumers. It's getting too powerful and they don't want kids making AI videos and images for the lulz that boomers think are real and causes some incident. There's a potential new war of the worlds type scenario waiting to unfold with AI.

Then you're mentally retarded. Unless there's a miracle, the next generation of consoles will be the very last. Xbox is already dead and redundant due to M$'s control of Windows.

Snoy's obsession with live services and Shitendo's anti-customer practices will be their ruin if they don't change course.

so borderline scam

The reason Jensen will never abandon gaming is precisely the indicator you need to know AI is a bubble and that Jensen knows it

they will eventually exit pc gaming. then AMD will follow because when they quit it without a competitor, everyone will be forced to buy a console which they make the gpus for anyway.

they don't, that's the whole idea with tech fads like this, it's just there for the investors.

this
jensen is literally trying to make crysis jokes to a bunch of ayy eye investors at computex

Surveillance and autonomous weapons. These will be used to re-institute slavery.

Green line go up, CEO get bonus, CEO is indian, CEO doesnt give a shit about long term sustainability.

everyone will be forced to buy a console

Anon, have you not been paying attention?
The console market is also on its way out.
If PC dies the only things left will be mobile and cloud gaming, which these corpos would fucking adore.

Xbox is a money sink for MS, and they offset it with profits elsewhere. Gaming is still incredibly profitable for the only company making high end GPUs. It's not making as much money as datacenter tech, but it's still VERY profitable.

How is Ai making money?

I just got an MSRP 5080. Sorry but I'm actually happy if this means I can sell my sloppy seconds for more before the 6000 series comes out.

Honestly I hope AGI emerges before they lock us down forever. I'd rather Skynet sterilizes the planet than the mockery of life that tech faggots envision for humanity.

With an advanced model and enough hardware to throw at it, you can solve reasoning problems that humans might miss, especially with access to large amounts of data to comb through. Even ChatGPT, as shitty as it is, can help you connect the dots when your brain farts.

because we've moved from 'using' it and instead started misusing it

Well thankfully we live under a world economic system that makes it beneficial to compete with each other, so that will never happen

I thought AI demand was starting to plateau

Ai is as or more important than the automobile and airplane was.

Has ChatGPT accomplished anything except helping students cheat more than ever?

there is difference alright, AI is just a bubble, NFTs were plain fucking scam. hopefully dead 5ever

Or buying the B770 in 3 months.

microsoft has a porn patreon and they are raking in the big bucks,

Helped the guy make the most downloaded performance tweaks mod for oblivion remastered that does nothing, if that counts.

We've had AGI since the 80s.

So what happens when the AI bubble pops?

so turn the textures down?

That was always going to happen. Not accounting for human malice is willful ignorance.

Yeah you see all these people repeating the line Nvidia doesn't care about gaming, Nvidia will abandon gaming blah blah but every single generation Jensen releases a xx90 tier card. Why is that? It doesn't make any sense! Anyone with half a brain will never release a xx90 tier card for gaming when Jensen is supposedly selling these chips for dozens of thousands of dollars to data centers! The math ain't mathing!

X
pajeetification is eating it alive from Intel inside, same like with macroshit or google

Okay but how is that making money?

It won't. AI is the future.

I still don't understand how AI is supposed to make money in a consumer economy when you use it to lay off everyone, resulting in no one having any money to buy the products of the companies you're selling AI to.
What's the logic here?

Like crypto?

it's the most impactful technology of all time

My man Larry.

there are cases when it barely can answer what date it is. and people trust it with anything?

if it means they sell more cards with more VRAM at better prices

lol it means the exact opposite you dumb anime troon

like NFT's?

That is a completely distinct statement from corporate controlled, resource intensive American AI is the future. 95% of the usecase for AI is text based, this will be served by mid range consumer gpus running open source models in 5 years. There is no money to be made here outside highly specialised markets like scientific research and specialist media creation.

you can't just turn the textures down anymore because they are directly uploaded uncompressed in newer games so even with graphics on low you'll deal with 2k-4k textures everywhere

that's when you just roll over and die, like they want you to. did you think you lived at the end of history? a critical famine or mass-casualty war is overdue. they'll get you one way or the other, and you can already see that they're trying to do both.

just like bitcoin bro, its replacing money and money makes the world go round.

sure, but knowing it doesn't make it any less sad

It has found multiple CVE's. And created some with all the vibecoding.

Companies have this FOMO thing going on but with money. They hate missing out on not making smartphones first, not creating Fortnite, not creating Google, not creating Netflix etc. AI is the new bubble.

Nvidia will exit the consumer market, so no more GPUs, and the rest of the industry will degenerate to a oligopoly of web services you access through a glorified mainframe terminal like in the fucking 70s. They want all the money and all the control. Consumer computing is dying.

AI is totes mcgoats the future

it's just googling something but worse

Getting shit done that it would take a team of people coordinating over longer periods of time to do. Ever seen the oldschool cop way of murder investigation? They put a bunch of evidence up on the wall and stare at it, thinking about possible connections. The problem is that the human brain can only retain so much information. When you look at the lower left quadrant of the board, stuff in the upper right starts to disappear from your immediate memory. AI can retain a lot more data and make conclusions that (while flawed) might steer people onto the right track of thinking towards solving a problem.
The idea is that frontloading your spending on AI means you don't have to pay as many brainstormers, saving money in the long run.
That's not how texture detail levels work. There are lower quality textures included as well.

For the Chinese market, you clickbait-posting faggot.

There are lower quality textures included as well.

go on play monster hunter rise with a 1080 ti see how it runs with everything on low

yet every single generation nvidia releases a xx90 card to gamers when they could have not released it for gamers and sell it to data centers for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Why is that?

at least it will kill google since google has transformed itself into a shitty ai anyway, might as well run an offline model that answers most of my questions

RTX 5000 instead of having 10 units in stock at micro center will have 3 units in stock
Prices will go up as Nvdia become even more luxury

Crypto was always a speculative investment with no intrinsic value. You can't explain the benefits to a normal person in a way that would convince them it's actually useful.

ummmm the bank and government won't control your money

Why would I care about this? Almost everyone wants their money to be held safely.
AI has clear value. Literally every university student is using it, coders are using it, people wanting free image assets are using it, lonely people wanting a free psychologist are using it. They're not even remotely the same.

uses games made by japs as his example

These people lock games to 60fps. They don't know shit about game development.

How is it worse? Google is so worthless now that you have to add r*ddit to any search and they are definitely better than that place.

Hell no, but you're not off mark. Lots will go that path. Where it'll really head towards is cloud/service streaming. Nvidia's already doing it at some capacity, but it'll be more commercialized in due time.

Humanity's way forward is universal fabrication. 3d printing needs to advance to microchips for us to be free of the silicon jew.

The datacenter bonanza is very recent.

What
The whole point of node shrinks is more transistors aka more performance and less power consumption
The silicon chip sizes have consistently stayed similar, no one is making tiny node shrunken shitlets of old shit on new nodes because that's more expensive than just using older silicon on older nodes way lower in demand and thus way cheaper

AI is cannibalising existing value. It is replacing google, big tech and media companies but it isn't generating wealth in its place. As an investment its completely retarded.

You are engaging with a baiter, or a bug person that can't picture the apple in his mind. Either is a waste of time.

google launches AI

people ask it how to make mac and cheese

tells people to put glue on pasta

You know you get shit VRAM because they don't want consumer GPUs to be a viable alternative to professional GPUs and to redirect all the low budget amateurs into XX90 halo products and even these are fucking shit in terms of muh vram?

because demand wasn't high enough until the AI boom

Cloud gaming will never take off because the latency is too shitty for hardcore gamers and casual gamers (read: phonefags) have internet that's way too shitty/spotty to reliably stream from those services.
What will actually happen is more and more consolidation on mobile ARM devices, with AAA gaming slowly dying off since no one will have the hardware needed to run those big, demanding games and most zoomers and alphies preferring F2P live service games and gacha games to AAA games anyways.
Roblox has absolute shit visuals, and it's still by far the most popular game among kids in America.

what happens to nvidia when the AI bubble pops?

parroting Indian e-celebs

embarrassing, google still has value in that it also links you to the pre AI internet.

imagine being this dense

Literally every university student is using it, coders are using it, people wanting free image assets are using it, lonely people wanting a free psychologist are using it.

The issue is that all of those are bad things.
Who the fuck would celebrate people being so broken that they need constant access to a robot psychologist?

No longer my problem. I knew shit was going to get even worse.
fuck aiggers.

people are using at as a replacement for search engines, except sometimes it just makes shit up. the actual legitimate uses are more niche

AI is currently at its peak so they're going to take full advantage of that. The bubble will burst though once they see just how scammy it is.

Cannibalizing or making processes more efficient?
If I run a McDonald's

food analogy

and replace all my human workers with AI-driven technology that is much cheaper and more consistent then how is that not creating value?

Any missing ROPs?

You're clueless. AMD is copying every piece of Nvidia technology, just shittier and years later. Raytracing, AI upscaling, frame generation; they're on board with all of it.

NO garbage post processing, no garbage hair, No lumen.

What are you talking about? All of that applies to AMD cards. Hell, Nvidia is at least trying to fix shitty RT hair with LSS.

This is some mayor bullshit. "Supposedly" Nvidia have been struggling with supply for datacenter demand for years! So so so Nvidia have been struggling with supply for years yet they somehow keep releasing xx90 tier cards for gamers huh. Ain't that something! Why would Nvidia do that? If Nvidia can't supply enough GPUs for datacenters and these GPUs cost hundreds of thousands of dollars then why is Nvidia releasing these GPUs gamers for a 1/10th of what they could have made selling it for datacenter? That's crazy. Someone is lying.

Is there any real reason to even upgrade at this point? most games either run fine on most systems or like complete shit because of bad optimization and thats without factoring in that most new games that even have high system requirements nowadays seem to suck ass. feels like your money is better spent at this point on a better monitor since nothing out there is making me go "I absolutely need to buy a new card".

I was super excited when I bought my 3090 years ago, whats even going on anymore?

AI has clear value

Literally every university student is using it

destroying the value of university degrees and therefore its own use case

coders are using it

destroying the value of programming as a career and therefore its own use case

people wanting free image assets are using it

destroying the value of media generation and therefore its own market

lonely people wanting a free psychologist

someone who is at the level of using a robot for social needs is half a step from suicide, this is also the destruction of its use case.

then how is that not creating value?

Who is going to buy your products if everyone is laid off because of AI and doesn't have any money?

cute, but interwebz literally cant handle that in any larger scale. doesnt matter how many ai servers and datacenter you have, when the lines are shit

Because there over 3000 dlss ready games vs less than 10 fsr 4 ready games?
Because all RT tools in various engines aren't even designed to work natively with AMDshit because for the last 20 years you could find 1 AMD every 100000 Nvdia

a datacenter gpu is way more profitable. and nivida has cornered that market. they now have 10x the revenue from data center customers as AMD. They have a wafer scale gpu/system that they are currently manufacturing that sells for 3 million dollars each. the same wafer could make only 72 5090s, at 2000 dollars each this is 5% of the revenue.
AMD can only pick up whatever customers nivida drops at this point. but that won't translate to them making more discrete gaming gpus. the proof is already in the 9700xt launch.

>ummmm the bank and government won't control your money

which is complete bullshit as the dollar is already untrackable. the opposite is true.

university students are using it

Yep. Badly.

coders are using it

Yeah some pajeet coders who then hit the workfloor and don't know how to fucking code two actions to one button. Fucking vibe coders. I'd shit on them but they'd enjoy it.

lonely people wanting a free psychologist

Lonely people will use just about anything. I personally recommend copious amounts of porn games but I'm not at a therapist. Just like an AI isn't a therapist.

The AI bubble will burst one day and it will be terrible. Artists will continue to get fucked in the ass by it though.

destroying the value of programming as a career and therefore its own use case

I want to argue this but so far I haven't been able to find something to integrate into my workflow that I found actually useful. That being said I do embedded so maybe its having a bigger impact on webdev or some shit

Money is an abstraction of value. If it's no longer serving its purpose because of AI improving productivity and eliminating the need for human labor then that's a problem with the concept of money and welfare. It's not AI's fault.

last time I heard, nobody has any money left

AI is currently at its peak

lol...

They're struggling because every tech company is depleting 100% of their stock because they're all competing for the most compute.
It's genuinely a wonder why they even bother making gaming GPUs, they're doing it for us gaymers.

God I hate google it’s crap

codemonkeys still somehow think they won't be replaced

nice cope but it's coming for everyone that isn't blue collar.

Nah. AI impact even on webdev has been minimal. Most frameworks already generate boilerplate code before AI. And AI is pretty much doing similar things.

Are you the guy who always asked if someone ate breakfast?

So you admit that AI only exists to destroy the current system and all of the businesses investing in it are just investing in their eventual demise (and thus the demise of AI, since if there's no money in keeping the datacenters for AI running or providing energy to those centers, then AI will just die out naturally since energy isn't free).
You're literally explaining why AI is a bubble.

Artists will continue to get fucked in the ass by it though.

The way i've seen it is that people thought we moved past the times of starving artists when the internet age bloomed. Everyone had a much easier way of sharing their work. I think the reality is that good times can happen, but artists will undoubtedly return to starving.

How would you feel, though?

replacing who? Anyone who could be replaced was already being replaced. You didn't need AI to implement self checkout machines, AI doesnt replace the wagie chip fryers, that is a robotics issue, ok you can replace some middle managers and office workers who were doing fuck all to begin with, this is the same trajectory as increasingly efficient software being put to use.

The revolution in value generation is penny pinching from the cattle who are the same people you need to sell your slop to but now they cant afford it because they have no job.

Most realist anon.

I don't mind if dumbasses believe coding won't be a good profession to pursue anymore. More money for me.

AI is paradigm shifting. It doesn't work in existing models so we'll have a better one

N-NO THAT ONE DOEAN'ST COUNT

lol trans

will it flip burgers, stock freezers and service customers?

your pc has a time limit. it will die in the not so distant future. faulty cpu at a hardware level. intel 13th or 14th gen is incorrectly designed (or correctly if you believe in planned obsolescence).

Investors are AI's biggest target audience.

We won't because it'll become unprofitable to keep providing energy to keep those AI systems running long before we ever discover that new system.
If the shit isn't making money, companies aren't going to invest in it, no company is going to invest in datacenters that don't produce value, and no energy production company is going to invest in producing energy for said datacenters if there's no money in it.
AI in its current (and foreseeable) state is just a value add, if it's not adding value then it's worthless.

chip fryers

almost guaranteed he's talking about freedom fries, not actual chips

And yes, AI would be required to replace them, because it requires a (simple) brain to supervise a fryer and know when things are unevenly cooked or other scenarios.

AI McDonalds

They'd get vandalized so hard day 1.

we aren't getting a better one on our lifetime, we are burning up a system that has functioned for hundreds if not thousands of years into an era where humans no longer work. The system has to collapse and everything will turn to shit before we figure out how to reorganise society. Im happy for our great grand kids but we are all fucked.

persecuted

A couple years ago I said that Nvidia was looking to exit gaming. I was right, but people rejected my message.

you're already better than almost all therapists. Therapy is one of those pseudoscience fields on par with shit like hypnosis and voodoo that only works on retards.

>author is Irish, so probably typed it while drunk

Am Irish, can confirm

How is it a bubble? Maybe the current situation is a bubble that AI will set us free from.
The idea that major advancements for humanity shouldn't be pursued because people won't be able to continue their monopoly money LARP is absurd.
The solution is obvious anyway. The remaining workers will get paid more than those who no longer work, giving them access to privileges and luxuries that the majority don't have. If people want those as well then they'll need to put in the effort to be desirable as a worker that creates value in the new world.
Unlike human security guards, AI guards will do their job and put the n's in their place very quickly.

We won't

Yes we will.

I like being wrong

OK

lol, no it doesnt need ai you moron, you put the chips in a regulated high temperature oil for exactly the same time every time, the issue is the robotics for an arm that can do this for cheaper than it costs a retarded 16 year old.

It's genuinely a wonder why they even bother making gaming GPUs, they're doing it for us gaymers.

Bullshit. It doesn't make any sense.

if the 5090 doesn't catch on fire first
better hope your wires on that faulty 12vhpwr plug nvidia made doesn't decide to slam all the current your gpu wants down one or two wires because nvidia didnt want to implement any voltage control.... and your rig/house burns down

GPUs are going to be a luxury item soon.

Thinks GPUs already costing $1000+ that can play the latest games isn't somehow already luxury goods.

Gaming has always been luxury goods, the term luxury is misleading in modern times due to the cheapness of production.

The remaining workers will get paid more than those who no longer work, giving them access to privileges and luxuries that the majority don't have.

And then the system collapses and those people get killed and eaten by the majority who can no longer afford to feed themselves.

government money is rapidly approaching a point of no return (arguably already past it) and will be worthless in the near future

Already is.
And it’s not really a problem for them - the trick is to prevent the proles from accessing hard assets and thus store value. As long as you keep them completely locked inside the false paper economy jail, they are your slaves and you win.

Can an AI get pregnant? No? Then what use is it to me.

They want us to play video games or else they would just make more AI gpus. They have guaranteed buyers.

Kikes are the last "people" who would save us.

literally every uni student uses it

You say that like a positive.
As a person who teaches uni, we're at risk of having entire subjects fail because they use it and don't understand shit.

Yes? There are already fast food "restaurants" where machines are doing all of those things. The only human involvement is collecting the pay check and routine maintenance/review.

Yes we will.

You have to or the empire of lies will crash and half the American economy with it. Good luck!

Those are paper launches.

you are getting replaced by a vibe coding indian that costs the same as a McDonalds worker, no, they dont care that this causes tech debt.

Try games like Ghost Recon Breakpoint, absolute egregious performance due to the always online, connected to Ubisoft requirement.

The elite are smart enough to avoid that. They will either:

continue giving you enough to eat and be reasonably happy

realize technology has advanced enough that they can use their AI-driven bots to put all of you down should you inconvenience them (remember, they control the AI)

The system will work just fine.

Yes? There are already fast food "restaurants" where machines are doing all of those things.

And when half the population can't afford to feed themselves they'll just loot those restaurants with no security or employees.

I will refer to this as the dark times because this will cause a major collapse.

intel is literally going bankrupt only kept alive by Xeon sales

nvdia is making too much good money of AI shit that just decided to drop gaming as a whole

literally only AMD will sell gaming hardware in the very very near future

AMD CPU literally catch on fire as we speak with hundreds of dying units every day and the jeets have no idea why
BEST AND MOST POWERFUL AMD GPU EVER can't even compete with Nvdia MIDRANGE
PC gaming is dead in an AMD monopoly timeline, hold on your 4080s or better dearly, they will be the best on market for the next 20 years and there is only downgrading if your gpu dies now

They have a supply problem and they keep selling xx90 GPUs to gamers for 1/10th of the price. Someone is lying.

security guards with ai will be the most woke shit you've ever seen, it'll be the same as all current big name text generators and will be neutered to avoid offending literal trash like trannies. But it'll also jump on white men all the time.

I couldn't play the new Doom.

Physical processes are different every time. Distribution of ice in the bag is different every time. Density and size of fries is different every time. It requires an actual person. Tell me you've never worked a job without saying you've never worked a job.
Even though a dumb person can do the job, it requires an actual person who can adjust to different outcomes.

>continue giving you enough to eat and be reasonably happy

They're already failing at that.

>realize technology has advanced enough that they can use their AI-driven bots to put all of you down should you inconvenience them (remember, they control the AI)

Unless the AI can stop them from stabbing them in the middle of the streets, no, they won't.
The surveillance state only functions so long as the majority functions and is comfortable.
If the majority does not function, the surveillance state collapses, because the elite won't feel comfortable out in public.

yet i keep seeing these 4090s and 5090s posted all over gaming websites

Guess it's time to invest in rocket launchers

I hope not
if there is one gwn of cards I truly want to be good out of all of them it would be the 60x series so when I finally splurge on a card it can be the funny haha 69 meme card and it actually be good

wants to make this some retarded semantic argument about the definition of the word chips

I have no idea what the fuck you are even trying to say because I'm not American and have no idea what a freedom fry is or why that is relevant to this discussion. If you have no point to make you aren't compelled to type.

I dont know if you have fried anything in your life but the time it takes to fry some chips is the same every time.

So... do these new AI chips have analog computers or anything else that would be interesting for neural networks?

I build this like 2 months ago
I definitely paid too much for the card
Don't get me wrong, It's not like I've had any issues, it's been working fine, but I ended up paying almost $1500 for it, and the MSRP for this fucking model was supposed to be like $1250, which is already a fucking lot either way

people in this thread thinking our AI is the same as their Star Wars robots

You guys on that devil shit or sumthin

I'm not American

So I don't even need to read the rest.

They won't monetize it! They will just jump to the next bubble and abandon AI because if they don't the American economy collapses.

The elite will seclude themself from the general public. You won't be allowed anywhere near them.
And even if they don't, AI will detect your intentions well in-advance of you even getting close to them and send you to AI jail where you will get raped and waterboarded by AI prison guards daily.

Third worlders think AI is like magic or some shit, they think it'll be like Star Trek and the elites can just sit in their highrises with their fleet of AI drones and bots oppressing everyone else on the planet somehow.

kek, what a shitty cop out concession.

9800X3D

Oh no no no no

You now understand why billionaires are building underground bunkers in Hawaii.

I don't negotiate with terrorists.

its extra funny when you realise the people making those fake trailers are from pakistan.

The elite will seclude themself from the general public.

The elite still need to eat, stupid.
They still need drinking water.
They still need to sleep.
They can't rely on AI for that because people will just go destroy the bots or attack the people helping the elites, ala Africa.
You really have a third world mindset about this, you seem to think real life is like a sci-fi movie.

AMD CPU literally catch on fire as we speak with hundreds of dying units every day and the jeets have no idea why

It's called assrock motherboards

x870

not X870e

Why not spend the extra $30 for another chipset and more PCIE lanes?
You either choose and oxidizing CPU or be a retard frying a 9800X3D on Asrock boards because they suck ass

Nvidia saw the massive strides Arc took, shat itself, and left

B580 GODS...We gotta cut back a little. Just a LITTLE. I mean, they're on suicide watch

And who's delivering the food to those bunkers?
Who's delivering the water?
Who's growing the food?
Who's processing the water?
No elite can ever seclude themselves from society at large because at the end of the day, they still need to eat and drink.

I dont like to argue with retards, so now you have confirmed you are an American we can end it here.

I don't think you people realize how fundamental AI is to our future.
There's no other avenue of technological progress or advancement beyond it, it's the final frontier. Future people will look at your posts like a historical relic and laugh at your ignorance.

They can't rely on AI for that because people will just go destroy the bots

ACK

oxidizing CPU

doesn't even know what he's talking about

niggerbyte

oh wow nigger what did you do lmao

We invented the Internet and vidya. We win.

It doesn't matter that it won't work. What matters is that they think it could work. They've bought their own bullshit, and there is a lot of room for ordinary people to die before reality catches up with them.

it's just asrock

Lol it happens on all vendors and AMD doesn't know why lmao

yet every single generation nvidia releases a xx90 card to gamers when they could have not released it for gamers and sell it to data centers for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Why is that?

These chips don't bin high enough to be sold for DC. These are the rejects.

There's no single instance in which a fucking regurgitator is fundamental to society. You also said the same thing about NFTs. You are a certified clown.

GiGODbyte

Oh wow nice one bro

we invented pretty much everything relevant in the modern world. infact that shitskin prob wouldn't have survived childbirth without us/our inventions. just pity him, he will always be the lesser of us.

they drop gaming all together to chase AI

This week saw a Redditor compile a list of 108 Reddit posts involving a Ryzen 7 9800X3D that died, along with 12 other Ryzen 9000-series chips that suffered the same fate. 98 of the failures, or 82%, occurred on Asrock boards. It's stated that the processors passed POST and worked for varying amounts of time before dying with no signs of failure.

From 10% wafer allocation to 5%? lmao
They even dropped driver development, should just fuck off from gaming at this point.

They've bought their own bullshit, and there is a lot of room for ordinary people to die before reality catches up with them.

See, but this only works if the entire world collapses at once.
If, say, the west collapses, every single western elite will be fucked, because not only will every normal person in the west want them dead, but China is extremely collectivist and has already disappeared and assassinated their own billionaires, so they'll have no problem doing the same to western elites in favor of strengthening their own elites (in government).
This shit is just retarded all around, and I think all the web3 and NFT bullshit has made me realize that elites are not actually as smart as they pretend to be.

Tim Berners-Lee. Sir Timothy John Berners-Lee (born 8 June 1955), also known as TimBL, is an English computer scientist best known as the inventor of the World Wide Web, the HTML markup language, the URL system, and HTTP

English computer scientist

English

Born London, England

uppity burger.

They have been with a supply shortage for years now! These are not rejects! These are working GPUs! They could sell them for x10 the price they are currently selling them! Someone is lying!

Two year warranty on the whole thing.

To be fair, I cheated through my bachelors for the sake of having a degree on my CV.
College is utterly useless unless you're becoming a doctor or a petroleum engineer.

So, he invented the internet in 1989, 20 years after the internet launched in 1969? Is that what you're saying?
He also did it in Europe, when the first 4 internet nodes were in California?

good thing they designed it to fail in year 3, you got played

Nah AI isn't fundamental to our future.
Let me tell you what is though.
Sex.

duh anon we need to have sex to continue the human race you retard!

Of course. Let me explain.
The incel epidemic is becoming more and more prevalent. The current incel generation isn't even intelligent or pseudo-intelligent either. They're obvious retards and they all watch Asmongold for some reason.
At the same time, people also become poorer and poorer. While attractive females go on onlyfans to make the big bucks. Then hop onto to Tinder to get their backs blown out by the top 1% attractive men.

Being ugly becomes a death sentence in the social media age. More and more men are lacking sex. So there has to be an industry shift that will promote sex again. That means plastic surgeons taking huge leaps in advancement to make people attractive. A cure to micro-dicks. Staying in shape without too much effort so you can still work and be a functional member of society. A naturally pleasant body armour. All achievable with little risk to oneself, and you will look naturally attractive at all times.

Once we as a society focus on achieving peak sexual experiences, onlyfans will die out. Women will no longer have as many simps because all men are attractive and can get any woman they want who is also extremely attractive. People will have so much sex, they will be naturally fulfilled, and go to work happy and productive. Gaming will be seen as a pleasant break away from all the sex you're having. Human creativity will once again reign supreme as the happiness index soars.

Sex, anons, is the answer.

We put some wires in the floor, its our invention!

the guy who invented the shit that was actually consequential and the product I am using right now isn't important!

Everything was invented by the British you retarded burger.

Maybe you should teach and assess students properly.
Personally, I'm very happy to see tertiary education get exposed for what it's become. It's been a scam and a bubble for a long time now.

The internet is a hand me down from Darpa, like everything else we get.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darpanet

They get more expensive. At this point in time I consider Keynesian's to be as retarded as flat earthers. Resources are not infinite. You cannot deny supply and demand more than you can deny gravity.

I can emulate Switch games on 10 year old video games so this doesn't effect me.

I can emulate Switch games on 10 year old video games

???

Why do they call it oven when you of in the cold food of out hot eat the food

Sex is absolutely not fundamental to our future. If anything, it'll be detrimental, as it will mean spawning more low-IQ morons instead of super-intelligent humans through methods such as iterative embryo selection.
Maybe they will let you keep having sex without the potential to create new life, but I doubt it.

Thats really what they are doing though

*video cards

:3

that elites are not actually as smart as they pretend to be.

They're not, they just inherit control from their tight knit masters through countless esoteric rituals.
Sama gamla sagan

we'll be forced to use AMD soon

Emulating at native or slightly better isn't really a GPU issue. Even when I jack games up to 4k, my GPU is mostly napping.

They're busy prototyping their new power guzzler:
youtube.com/watch?v=HkUEijON-88

Since amd and Intel are both after the budget-midrange market, will devs finally have to optimize their games now? Hard to justify forced gay tracing when nvidia isn't even making cards anymore.

Will it finally be able to match a 3050?

You're right people studying chemistry shouldn't know anything at all about handling hazardous materials, silly me! All hail AI!

I think the guy said it could match a 5080 or maybe even a 4090.

This. Id sooner quit vidya altogether before I went back to console.

4080chads can't stop winning.

Everyone is doing this, why wouldn't you?

Chemistry is a serious degree thoughbeit, unless you weren't paying attention, I said college is mostly useless outside of serious degrees that require serious intelligence.

They asked me the same question when I rejected the Covid Vaccine.

Unironically this, but you

I expect that the days of mix-and-matching different hardware components will become a thing of the past. It's not even sustainable now for devs to optimize for the different combinations, it's only a matter of time before it hits a breaking point.

Unfortunately I don't think it will pop, AI is here to stay as normalfaggots have gobbled it down hard. Every single big tech company is shilling, I don't think it's a bubble more than internet is a bubble.

Yeah and they're all using AI to do the work and it gives dangerously wrong information.

I kneel

This can be assessed in a way that AI won't jeopardize. It should have been done that way to begin with.
University teaching staff wanted to teach and assess students the lazy way. Now there's consequences for that and they don't like it.

unvaxed sperm is the next gold rush

Can't say that I like the idea of universal proprietary hardware. Sure I like the compatibility, but it will be exposed to monopolising.

I'm having trouble advertising the fact, any tips?

And how do you propose they are assessed?

The dot com boom was a bubble. None of the companies that ruled at the start even exist now, it led to the generation of completely new tech giants. AI will lead to a new economy, I just dont think any large American corporation that currently rules the world will survive the transition. I think the new rulers will be from other nations as this tech is just destroying the technological moat that has allowed America to dominate.

My 4090 continues to gain value

This is the best purchase I've ever made

They're making a ton of 50 series cards, they're almost always in stock, even in the US. The pricing is just fucked.

If America goes down it's going to take all of AI with it since it's the largest consumer economy on the planet and 90% of interest in AI is from investors looking to make money off of products sold to consumers.

4 hour interrogation in a black box.

Evidently those students in serious degrees who are cheating with ai don't belong there, this seems to be a disciplinary issue.

it will be exposed to monopolising

I get what you mean, but we are already experiencing that. I can't imagine it getting worse without the PC gaming market completely collapsing.

90% of interest in AI is from india and china, they will use it because it hands them immense power and the ultimate tool to destroy silicon valley.

Not through written essays that rich international students were paying other people to do for them anyway.

a regurgitation machine will end the current order of the world

and the ones promoting it are the ones who will lose it all

this is how stupid you sound

Not with that shit performance and FSR, that's inferior to just lowering internal resolution to 66%, lmao.

The current giants won't go out peacefully, they'll carve out a deal with the new blood or cause unprecedented chaos.

India and China are largely interested in AI as a tool to make money, they're not really doing much of value with it.

I'll never understand why people are against vaccines. It seems to only be the dumbest people too.

It's just when the vaccine is for a disease that hasn't killed anyone.

It's because they kill people and make them autistic, try looking at your covid vaccine that we're not allowed to sue for. LOL!

nobody will go out because a machine can regugitate words with a command prompt retard

See, Nvidia knows that they can fuck with gamers without consequence; it's the reason that they do what they do.
I picture that they'll simply continue to raise prices where only a wealthy minority could afford PC gaming.

I picture that they'll simply continue to raise prices where only a wealthy minority could afford PC gaming.

Don't worry, they have Geforce Now for the plebs too. Just pay your monthly fee like a good boy.

Low mortality rate and the illness itself is a flu.
No need for such drastic measures such as an experimental vaccine.

I dont know if you know this but google is a regurgitation machine, over 50% of Microsoft revenue comes from shit like gaming, office and windows which are all going to collapse in the next 10 years, meta is a network of bots talking to each other, nvidias market share is exclusively tied to large tech investment in building data centres. netflix and disney are dying when the slop flood kills all media value. All the tech darlings of the snp 500 are in danger

Cool, we don't do written essays.
Anymore suggestions?

I do not kneel to the subscription based demon.

India and China are largely interested in AI as a tool to make money

no shit sherlock, why do you think anyone on earth is interested in this slop machine, you think the Americans aren't racing for money?

Where do you think most of the money spent on AI is coming from, genius?
Who do you think is investing in all this shit? Do you really think Ranjeesh buying a monthly sub to ChatGPT so he can cheat on his classes means shit to AI as an industry?
No, it's western (largely American) investment capital that keeps this money sink running.

It's all hypothetical, don't let your 'tism get the better of you.

2 more weeks until AI gets good enough to completely replace an industry

I've been hearing this for a few years at this point, when does the 2 weeks come?

aha, sure. You got any peer reviewed proof of that or is this just another one of your schizo conspiracies.
i don't know man, I trust actual professionals more than internet schizos living in their mothers basements and middle aged women who believe in fake medicine and voodoo magic.

what is a statistical outlier.

I'm not concerned.

Because they researched it and found out that milk, eggs, seed oils, peanut oils and fish oils were key ingredients and parts of the vaccine development process, some were discovered and banned but just replaced with synthetic versions with almost the same chemical structure. then because they have higher than monkey brain pattern recognition abilities they realised the explosion in autoimmune disorders like allergies had a cause. Maybe programming an underdeveloped childs immune system by pumping them full of foreign materials has some negative effects, maybe just maybe it leads to immune disorders as an adult. They also looked into the pharmaceutical industry and saw it was completely corrupt, the regulators were captured and there was no real oversight.

This is completely different than covid vaccines which had their own list of concerning data signals. people who are anti vaccine aren't anti all vaccines they just want better, independent scientific research on which are actually safe and which arent.

I trust actual professionals

You can pick and choose when it comes to your personal wellbeing, medicine is an ever evolving field and doctors are capable of making mistakes.
Do your own research and try to gauge if your doctor has a genuine care for your health instead of regurgitating whatever the WHO has recently told them.

The american venture capital racket is completely distinct from the technology which is developing either way and will eventually kill the american tech giants.

It won't kill anyone because it's entirely reliant on those American tech giants.
If they die, AI as a whole dies, because its main current use is cost-cutting and making money.

Pandoras box has already been opened, even if you delete all investment in data centres AI will live on in open source locally run models that will eventually outcompete google and completely devalue half of Microsoft's services.

Vaxxers always assume people who rejected the covid vax are these everything or nothing type individuals, one extreme or the other.

that will eventually outcompete google

Unlikely considering the energy requirements needed for that to occur.
If there's no western companies to sell AI to, then there's no point in AI.
It's that simple.

you are assuming AI doesnt get more efficient over time and that computing hardware stays completely stagnant from now on. Googles days are numbered and any tech giant that largely just regurgitates data from the internet is on notice.

skin cells were the key ingredient for the small pox vaccine for several hundred years. And who the fuck is they?
the problem there is that you really aren't capable of doing your own research if your a pol schizo. you'll end up believing that jews have put autism juice in all vaccines like that other retard from earlier. If you don't trust your doctor, get a second doctors opinion, because you aren't a doctor and don't have sufficient medical knowledge.

The efficiency is irrelevant if there's no one to sell it to and make money off of.
Again, without that, AI is pointless.

t. fucking retard who thinks that technology is magic

Because they were pre-programmed by tv funny men and scientists sponsored by pharmaceutical companies to think anti vax is the same level of social taboo as racism and holocaust denial. I've never seen npcs get so emotional over a topic they have 0 understanding of, in their mind "anti vax" means you dont know the explanation they give to 10 year olds about how vaccines work.

you do realise that every single vaccine has different ingredients in it right? are you really so stupid you think all vaccines are made in the same lab and they are all identical beyond the magic attenuated ingredient?

your argument boils down to, I take vitamin c pills when i get a cold therefore all pills are 100% safe!

cutting back on a paper launch

Nvidia didn't make many of to begin with. And like 1/3 of the cards that WERE purchased ended up being bricks/defective lol

I'm not arguing for AI, its a slop machine for third world retards but its still going to kill google.

Anon, Google is a major investor into AIslop, it's most definitely not going to kill them.

GTA 6 will be the last big console game anyhow.

I am arguing for the safety of a medical treatments that I admit I am too stupid to research myself

and why are you doing that? because reddit posters with exactly the same position as you told you to? my opinions on vaccines come from family members with science degrees, I thought they were retarded till I looked into it. There were also family friends who were doctors who said to hold off on the covid vax, the thing is they weren't naïve white doctors who believe in the system they were east asian.

Why is mm squared instead of cubed?

google isn't investing in AI because they want to, they have no fucking choice. They either go bankrupt and ignore it or roll the dice for the 1% change they get to control whatever it becomes. Its no different from the millions of programmers adopting it who will be made redundant in the next 5-10 years.

regurgitation machine

reductive ignorant retard
this is like me calling you a talking bug
that's about as apt as your claim

google isn't investing in AI because they want to

yes they are they've been investing in it for decades you fucking dipshit
this entire AI leap is because of them

where did you get that from? I responded to the retard who was acting like making vaccines using something like egg as an ingredient is something unheard of. I also said that you should listen to actual professionals rather than pol. So no, my argument is not that all pills are safe, my argument is that when your doctor tells you that you have take a shot of epinephrine because you're having an anaphylactic shock, you should take their advice rather than listening to the crackhead across the street who says it causes cancer.
my views come from people who have medical degrees. East asians are also the exact people that would start telling you to snort elephant tusk powder and shit.

You knowing that eggs are used in the manufacture of vaccines isn't a refutation of what i said, its an agreement. This isnt a competition where I'm playing gotcha with unknown trivia, the fucking point is that we both agree eggs are used and eggs rank among the most common forms of allergy, hmmm what a coincidence, alongside milk, peanuts, fish and sesame, all immune system disorders and ingredients used in the programming of the immune system.

I dont read pol, its full of glowie spam and retards, the fact that they happen to be correct on this topic is none of my concern. I listened to scientists who I personally know, you listened to scientists who were sponsored by the people selling you the product, it is no different that the paid for shills they trotted out to tell you smoking was good for you or that burning fossil fuels had no effect on climate change

oh and also

the future doesn't include you

could be another reason
lmao

please, enlighten me, which vaccine contains eggs. Not proteins contained in eggs, but eggs as an ingredient. Please provide you're source for that claim, because by god I hope it's not your schizo family.