Best IQ test that has ever been released probably, and not because it is hard
The game explains LITERALLY EVERYTHING, and if you didn't understand the story, you are legitimately cattle, unfit for anything but being worked to death in slave labor
Clair Obscur: IQ Test
Buy an ad
versochads rise up
The Cattle
you can stop seething now
and if you didn't understand the story
I understand, I just think it's maudlin and cliche.
t. literal nobody who hasn't written shit of note
NOOOO YOU CAN'T MAKE FUN OF THE STORY
Buy an Ad
You don't need to sign your post here.
needs more buzzwords
struck a nerve kek
lel
No I'm being serious, if you want to imply the person you're replying to is the retard you to do it like this
t. retard
Otherwise you're saying you're the retard.
In other words, the people who are calling this well written are single digit IQ redditors
So you say
But good on you, being stupid is fine
Being a subhuman beast is not
This game is the midwit's darling.
okay retard
okay retard
We don't sign our posts here.
the doctor said the same of you when you were born
I didn't ask for your life story
The game explains LITERALLY EVERYTHING
probably why I dropped it out of boredom within a few hours. shitty redd!t writing.
brevity is SOUL of wit
we
Retard
and not because it is hard
That is the entire point
If you understand the story as it trots along with the hints:130IQ
If you understand it after it starts being explained:110IQ
If you understand it after the explanations and the ending:100IQ
IF after everything is explained you didn't understand shit (like a lot of streamers and anons I've seen here): 75IQ or lower, retarded animal
stop signing your posts
no need to sign your post
One mad samefag: ITT
Dropped it within a few hours
Things start being explained when Verso comes in
The Cattle
hell yeah brother
:
newfag
Clair Obscur actually does a really good job of keeping things brief and condensing information. Its not like Persona where gameplay is a visual novel with occasional dungeon segments.
Cry about it
about 6-7 threads absolutely seething over this game
seething in this thread
what the fuck happened
Best IQ test that has ever been released
Yes, if you enjoy this game you're probably a retard
I got popular. Literally the only reason.
it's boring before a different fag character appears
skill issue on the part of the writers
shit taste issue on the part of (You)
I got popular.
He was right.
Everyone liked it in the pre-release threads and then it got popular quickly.
Best IQ test that has ever been released probably, and not because it is hard
The movie explains LITERALLY EVERYTHING, and if you didn't understand the story, you are legitimately cattle, unfit for anything but being worked to death in slave labor
Yes, if you enjoy this game you're probably a retard
a tale as old as time
Admitting to be cattle
jealous?
You're not a writer, how can you praise the game's writing if you don't have an award winning novel?
I love how irritated he looks in this cutscene. Can't tell you the last time I've seen an expression like that
t. brown animal
Big true
nice try retard
criticizing something is not like praising
if you're going to criticize something you should be proficient I it - appreciation doesn't need that
retarded attempt to turn the tables
How can anyone watch Maelle's ending and go
YEP, thats it boys, this is the good ending
Believing this game has any literary value beyond jrpgs is more telling of IQ than anything else. Telling a story through subtext is the BASIC requirement for even the most subpar novels. If this is your first experience with metaphors in a story and you believe you have to defend it because you think it’s the most profound thing in existence let me tell you you need to read more books. I’m not even saying that to insult your intelligence if you like what this game did let me tell you there are stories that do it infinitely better that you will love
I'll summarize the seething towards this game in one image.
Shill thread designed to be a falseflag to fake engagement
there is no good ending
verso's is just the better one as the family is at least trying but then again do they deserve that chance to begin with?
pretty much
this
It's boring because it explains everything
so I dropped it after a few (FEW) hours
>things only get explained after 13+ hours
w-w-well, it was also boring b-b-before b-b-but I only j-just now t-t-tell you that b-b-... Just because, c-chud!
This niggers butt be hurting.
but then again do they deserve that chance to begin with?
and that's the paradox
would you rather the family live on or your painted friends
honestly the latter for me
the family are all horrible
except for daddy
That’s not a paradox stop acting like this game is some Greek tragedy. It’s literally just a choice between a bad decision and a worse decision.
The game is boring because it explains everything
No I did not get to the part where anything is explained but uh but it was boring before too!
CATTLE
Why did the fracture happen?
Who is painting the number on the monolith?
If Renoir is trapped under the monolith, how did he trap the paintress inside the monolith?
Why didn't the paintress talk to the expedition and explain everything when she arrived at the camp?
If Alicia can write letters, why didn't she write it for Maelle?
If Renoir knows the expedition will cease to exist, why didn't he tell them every time he met them?
Why didn't Renoir tell the expedition of Vero's real plan?
If Renoir can erase people, why didn't he erase her when he killed Gustave?
Old Lumiere, Verso says "Alicia, move" to Maelle, no one asks him about it. Instead, back at camp Lune asks him "do you like monkeys?"
Monoco knows Verso's endgame yet he goes along with it, but is devastated when Noco was partially dead.
How does Verso's fading young boy exist in the painting?
How does Clea communicate to you freely through the fading woman, but the fading man doesn't tell you to come home?
Why did the paintress invite you inside the monolith when she knew about your intentions back at old lumiere?
When Maelle started dying in her ending, why didn't Alicia repaint her?
I'd say they do.
Except Aline, but Renoir has a MASSIVE boner for his wife as displayed by Siren's ost.
The Writers were never explained. I need more lore YO
I need an exact date of when are we getting a Writers' game.
OH NONONONONO THERE IS NO FUCKING WAY YOU ARE JUST TELLING EVERYONE YOU ARE A FUCKING SUBHUMAN ANIMAL
i can't believe they put Anon Babble in the game
niggas think they're smart for reading words on a screen
stop acting like this game is some Greek tragedy
the family are literally greek gods you fucking idiot
Well yeah, I mean about the story
I am fully expecting real world stuff gets explained either in DLC (unlikely because DLC was not planned) or in their next game
pls don't bully him for having low IQ
Post young Aline
Kneel.
that's what a Greek tragedy is..
ignore him he's retarded
Renoir and Aline arguing
The regent, basically Aline's own axion
She's actually sealed inside the monolith AND insane
She did, but gave it to Verso
Aline fucked up her painting and just made him extremely overprotective
See above, he's forced to love and protect his son too much due to Aline
She's Aline's real daughter
Alicia is also there
Verso's (initial) plan was offing himself and Aline's creations
Fragment of his soul
Renoir is basically doing some astral projection shit because he's locked under the monolith
You literally break into the monolith and she can't stop it
Peak retard take
why does aline look so much older than renoir? is it from prolonged canvas time?
so you would put this story in the same hierarchy of greek classical literature? you need to put down the anime and video games and pick up a book
o7
they literally behave like greek gods in the canvas you fucking dolt
this is your last (You)
you're a fucking idiot
so you would put this story in the same hierarchy of greek classical literature
he didn't say that though
see
Lorebros
Did Sciel give birth or did she get a miscarriage while swiiming /killing herself.
forever painted in our hearts
she literally fucking tells you she miscarriaged
cant understand french.
33?? December? There is a 33rd day in December?
tfw you realize the theme playing during the prologue's fromage scene is Renoir's
shit is peak
No, she says the lost the baby. She just misplaced it somewhere in the ocean and Esquie didn't know to grab it. The 6 year old child is out there somewhere.
maximilianDOOFUS picked Maelle's ending and hated it
that's like saying you can't criticize a mechanics shitty work on your car because you're not a mechanic yourself. retarded
HOLD THE FUCK UP
33 décembre
December 33
yeah im sure michael phelps baby is alive and well
There's also a painting of the year 33 monolith in the manor IRL during the Alicia prologue (16 years before in the monolith). Something is definitely not right with the "real" world.
LMAO
that's not art you fucknut
nta but that's a retarded analogy when you're discussing art
kek you're seething someone from reddit created something people love and you never will
neither did his parents
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN
OK, SO there is no WAR or writers already won .
The deadpan stares characters sometimes give make cutscenes really funny.
Here Maelle just looks off into the distance as if she didn't just inflict extreme amounts of emotional damage on Verso.
who gives a shit if its art? anyone can have an opinion on it. people aren't obligated to deep throat your work or treat it with kid's gloves
fucking gottem
The real story is that it’s Verso dying and coping with letting go, kind of like purgatory.
The writer v painter war, the “real” family are also painted.
The actual fracture is a conflict between adult verso and his child psyche into whose subconscious frame he has retreated to avoid confronting his guilt.
The true story is revealed in vignettes related to the Axons.
Its not that deep of a plot. I can dislike it because the family with God powers sucks as a concept and no I can't accept someone grieving for 67 years.
thats the fucking point of her expression you dolt
I'm pretty sure that's the point to show how uncaring she is
Why are you even trying to explain to a literal 75IQ nigger what it did not understand when he was told directly
sure whatever just stop fucking crying already
maelle's ending is alicia making the same mistake
anyone who thinks her ending is good is dumb lol
How much Greek classics have you read you retarded faggot
Alicia was there
No she wasn't, she was inside the mansion with the door closed.
She gave the letter to Verso
Why would she when she can simply give it to Maelle
How did Renior trap the paintress inside the monolith when he himself is trapped under it? Still no answer.
Overprotective
Overprotective but didn't erase her right away to protect his family and then tried to do it twice but Verso stopped him. Retard. He was able to visit the camp many times while she was sleeping and didn't do it.
Why didn't Renior speak to Maelle and/or the expedition directly and explain things? Your answer is that he loves him doesn't answer the question. I didn't say erase him, but explain this to them retard.
Astral projection
yeah nice one, reminds me of the boss that turns to a ball in elden ring. Another retarded take.
break into the monolith and can't stop it
She opened the portal herself and invited them in, she literally helped them. Are you dumb?
peak retard take
Why?
A lot of plot holes, and many things were not answered and doesn't make sense. Only cope and stupidity from your side does and you think you have high IQ. You don't. Do you like monkeys? The whole expedition which has luna that is a researcher and a very curious personality didn't ask any important question and didn't follow up on important revelations. Instead, monkeys?
christ is it even legal to be this retarded?
The IQ test is thinking the story is an IQ test, and you failed. You might also call it an "iq" test because you gave me the ick.
i liked the story but the asslicker kid (You) who's in here samefagging and seething at every anon who wasn't impressed by the story is unironically a pathetic fag
i doubt he's even ITT anymore since he got completely BTFO
It's not like that at all you fucking dingbat.
If your mechanic fucks up your car, that has a direct negative effect on you and your criticism is an objective measure of the quality of his work.
Your "criticism" of some aspect of a piece of media is not objective, it's just something you don't like and nothing you say can change that thing, nor can it change other peoples' opinions. You're literally just pissing into the wind and crying because no one wants to stand next to you.
sure whatever just stop crying already
sure whatever just stop crying already
can't differentiate objectivity and subjectivity
holy fuck i bet you're some 16yo who thinks he's really smart and deep
Oh shit the third worldie's bot broke KEK
December 33
WAIT WHAT??????
?????? nice bot response shill
Painters paint worlds in canvasses
By that logic Writers write worlds in books
HOLD THE FUCK UP
Actual paid shills
never go full retard
kek I wouldn't doubt it
Saar can we make a new thread PLEASE SAAR. I messed this one up
Because the family and the god powers aren’t real. The entire thing is Verso in purgatory which reflects elements of of his subconscious and conflict between them.
That is the entire point you retarded fuck
gets utterly blown the fuck out
spergs out like a retarded chimp
every fucking time
you didnt play the game, jeet
god damn he's packing
Another cliche? Seriously? My favorite part about the show Lost was that the writers said they weren't in purgatory but then they ended up in purgatory.
thirdies are a weird lot
See niggers? This is why you dont try to explain things to fucking retards
BECAUSE THEY ARE FUCKING RETARDS
Just point and laugh
It's very problematic that Verso chose to sleep with the women while fully intending to murder them later.
Could they make the bot campaign any less obvious? The bots are literally saying people should not be allowed to criticize the game because they're not artists themselves. No real person would say this
bot
shill
kek this dude got mindbroken
Is it murder if they were dying anyway?
It's not like he stabbed them, he just kind of let them die since his inaction would have them end up dead too.
many such cases
i refuse to believe an honest human made these posts
That is headcanon
Verso was intending to help them but seeing his suffering mom and Alicia lying to Renoir made him change his mind
lmao
the amount of unfiltered retardation ITT is why I love weekend Anon Babble sometimes
But it actually is Verso in purgatory. The reason is how you have to defeat Renoir before fighting Maelle. Verso could have just lost to Renoir to get the same ending right?
Wrong.
Because the Paintress v Curator fracture is not a war between two real parents, but rather a war between adult Verso and his child psyche, each manifesting a version of their family where the “real world” is their compromise. And “real” Clea the elder sister is the authority figure like the referee.
You have to defeat Renoir to get to child Verso so a reconciliation can occur.
Getting Maelle to leave the painting is the false narrative Verso is holding onto prevent him from moving on.
Literally Alicia’s guilt over Verso and not wanting to let go of him in Maelle’s ending is ACTUALLY a manifestation of Verso’s guilt over hurting Alicia and it’s binding him in purgatory.
Accepting that Alicia can forgive him is how Verso finds final acceptance and moves on.
owned
His actual motivations go
let renoir kill everyone so his mom stops being a retarded cunt and fucks off to the real world
saving them all since my little sister wants to
back to murder what's left because my little sister takes after my mom
I hope not
the correct choice
i dunno man thirdies are pretty fuckin' stupid
You are fucking stupid
How would Verso losing to Renoir get the same ending
streamers having an existential crisis when reaching this choice
Only reason I watch them.
absolutely retarded. post
I side with Verso because the painted aren't real and the portrait is basically cocaine to everyone who uses it. You'd take away your mother's crack pipe too wouldn't you?
Verso loses to Renoir, Renoir kicks Maelle out of the painting and destroys the canvas. They bury Verso. Same ending.
But you have to defeat Renoir because the secret reality is that Renoir is protecting child Verso the way painted Renoir was protecting the Paintress.
Because it’s all Verso in purgatory.
this game is kino but the Indian spamming the thread with his bot needs to be executed
the story of the E33 is a poem by another Alicia to write down her feelings regarding the accident that killed her brother and left herself disfigured
you are legitimately cattle
AKA a Pajeet
Fpbp
youtu.be
probably the best video about the story i've seen
Are you....Verso?
Just way too smart for you and you can’t keep up with it so you just reject it. Epistemic closure of the limited intelligence.
sorry I was taking a shower but desu I haven't actually finished the game so I can't adequately defend any claims yet
No Alicia is a proxy for Verdi’s guilt in his subconscious. By him forgiving her he’s allowing himself to forgive himself.
No one in the game is real but Verso.
The magic painting isn’t real either.
It’s verso’s dying dream and the only conflict is whether he can accept that Alicia will forgive him or whether his guilt will trap him in a cold purgatory.
The game explains LITERALLY EVERYTHING, and if you didn't understand the story, you are legitimately cattle, unfit for anything but being worked to death in slave labor
Correct. That's why it's so weird that the shills are angry at people who simply didn't like the Act III twist, saying that they somehow just didn't understand it.
no you're just a retard throwing around stupid fucking headcanon like an autistic retard
you're not smart at all and your head canon is dumb as fuck
Bro that's just FFVIII
woman
sorry, i hate women
youtube.com
this one was good, and doesnt overstay its welcome
So real Verso cause the fire that is killing both him and Alicia?
MAELLE SIMPS ON SUICIDE WATCH
No, now lets watch verso’s ending
everything I fought for is erased because some suicidal cunt uses his sister’s wellbeing as an excuse so he can kill himself, everyone else and their lives be damned
Wow no good endings.
holy fucking samefag
vaati voice
miss me with that shit
muh purgatory
as an excuse
the purgatory take is so fucking dumb
this guy sounds like a faggot
i'll take the woman over this
samefagger cries about samefagging
Tell me lies
dude comes into other people's conversation, he has no idea what they're talking, he just wants to be annoying
honestly the video the other anon posted is better
even if thats true burying everything in metaphors is honestly so fucking boring for any story at all. Like nothing memorable happens until the end of each act. In between it all we are just left to ponder the hidden meaning in everything
No it’s a coherent theory that has explanatory power but it’s hurts retro brains too much so you’re sperging out
Alicia didn't care about Noco
Cunt
The same way Versofags evoke omnicide and cosign their comrades and all life in the canvas to oblivion and leave a crippled Alicia mourning both Verso and all her friends a "good" ending because they watched two old fossils hug in muh color.
You just sacrificed something you felt was unimportant or less important than your values. In my case, I don't give a damn about the Dessendre or that treacherous backstabbing fuck, so the 'better' ending for me is obvious. Piano was absolute kino.
Yeah cause this game is not inspired by Final Fantasy at all.
The game would've had a Golden Ending if they waited until Expedition 17 so that a group of teenagers could save the world.
piano cuck
This is a classic sign of autism. You think you're smart even though everyone is calling you a fucking retard to your face.
piano chad
Deserved
piano chad
It makes no sense considering the Verso ending.
If everything was just some dying halucination of Verso, why would Alicia be seeing the characters from the game?
coherent
it literally isn't
Maelle lost. Perform the sneed bowing down at my feet.
fuck right off
retarded head canon being flung around
"versofags" starts being used
yep it's schizo time
no minimap
barely any hud
turn based
not padded with tons of useless quests
exploration is rewarded
Great game, my only complaint is how easy it is to make your characters broken in act 3. But I guess that's the point since you're forsaking all your defense for balls to the walls offense where you're forced to parry or die.
I hope Renoir wins some important award for Best Performance so we can see more Andy Serkis in games.
and he's even posting the same imagines again fucking autists man
The game needed a minimap because the level design was very copy pasted.
autism is a helluva drug
Something like that. Verso is guilty for his own fate but the problem is Alicia was hurt in the process and that guilt is the conflict of his dying psyche.
Although, the fire itself could also be a metaphor.
I think we have to assume that the family is actually real, though might not even live during the Belle Epoch, through they probably do.
Verso’s true story is revealed in Visages and the Monolith level. I think Verso’s guilt comes from living a bad life generally, which is a sin for him to bear but presumably Alicia is hurt in the process.
There’s some indication of childhood trauma as well, I need to go back and rewatch the shadow flashbacks now that I know the endings.
minimap
LMAOOOO
outing yourself as peak fucking degenerate that fucking early
fuck off retard
I wanted a minimap though.
i figured out the late game plottwist during the prologue due to all the blobs of dried ink around the city. am i smort or just logically lucky?
this retard is still going with his retarded head canon
Giga-Chad reference
Why?
It is honestly hilarious. I like it.
Its not "immersive" to travel one direction and realize you went backwards because its just a corridor with the same assets as the last one.
of course you did you fucking imbecile
yeah this. I love laughing at autism.
What if the guy just did something the driver didn't like even if the car still works? There's plenty of subjectivity in something like car modding or home repair. Is bro not allowed to hate the work? The fuck even is this?
It’s not exactly a metaphor, it’s a manifestation of psyche and conflict within pieces of the subconscious
to remind people his ending was the chad choice
true it is pretty funny
I mean it makes sense logically too. Why the fuck wouldn't the Expeditioners make maps?
Maybe a bit of both. Who we were presented as the antagonist is literally named the Paintees so I didn't pick up on the blobs of dried ink as any indication that the world was a painted canvas but rather a result of something the painteess did.
Verso’s true story is revealed in Visages
Visages is truly a strange level. Why does the Axon invite you to face it directly? You "kill" the masks but doesn't seem to make any different, and Sciel comments on something feeling off. What happens if you don't kill the masks?
What does repainted Gustave think of Old Verso?
games used to always be like that and it wasn't a problem when people had a better sense of direction. the reliance on minimaps and quest arrows has led to some gamers forgetting those skills.
they dont gets new memories its all a time loop everything begins anew yes even the pipo you play as everything is a loop and the ticking monolith is one big fat lie
i'm not even going to reply to the headcanon retard anymore
you'd just be arguing with a low iq autist who thinks he a high iq anyway
mommy he annoyed me i am so le frustration!!! please can i have a hug plssss i am le angerino!!
I only got turned around a couple of times but it added nothing to experience aside from frustration. It just seems lazy to not include one. A lot of JRPGs have them.
i am so le frustration!!! please can i have a hug plssss i am le angerino!!
go back
holy rediit
newline
go back
exactly my point
symbolism and familial relationships and obligations are completely lost on him
I... LOST...
you two make every thread for this game annoying as fuck. you cheerleader each others posts too
post yfw Maellefags didnt end the game properly
taking something somewhat complex and just claiming it's something as trivial as purgatory is exactly something a brainlet would do to cope with something they don't understand
Renoir kicks Maelle out of the painting and destroys the canvas
ah yes, so you just made it the fuck up
Also you are clearly fucking autistic, but the reason Verso goes against Maelle in the end is exactly because of her conversation with Renoir AFTER beating him
meds
Some facts
Painted people are sentient
Verso is a painted copy with fake memories (he does not have kid Verso’s soul)
1 000 000 sentient human level intelligences are more important than 5
The Dessendres have written a bunch of suffering out of thin air (they are objectively evil and deserve punishment)
They need their heads bashed in the DLC and Verso needs to be inserted into the eternal torture chamber
Versotards are objectively evil
you make it obvious when you write the same annoying shit over and over
stfu already retard
I do not mind people insulting each other but you are legitimately retarded and annoying
meds
sure thing man
can someone tell me why this is seemingly the only piece of media in all of existence where you can't criticize the story because you are outing yourself as a sub IQ neanderthal. I mean is everyone just dumb or is this actually the greatest piece of fiction ever written. I've never seen any book or movie have people deflect criticism on the grounds that they aren't educated enough to speak about it. Even works of world literature have people debating elements of the story and meanings. But not this game, this game is different for some reason. It's honestly such a turn off to see a thread about the story because you just know there is no discussion besides people insulting each others intelligence
No I’ve presented an argument with explanatory power, people are sperging over it without addressing it. I’m not the autist in this situation.
Masks help him in battle
getting called a retard for his dumb fucking headcanon
spergs out
yep
Retarded
Retarded
explanatory power
more like autismal power
All the people assuming all the posts are shills. 9.5/10 game. You losers just hate on anything for no reason.
They true iq test is not falling for the shill campaign.
yes little autist everyone is wrong and you're right
thats how autism works
for no reason
it can't run on their potato pcs and it's not on switch
WAKE ME UP INSIDE
CALL MY NAME AND SAVE ME FROM THE DARK
If I ask an AI chatbot if its real it will say it is real. There is no real evidence the painted people are sentient and if they are real then you deleting the game would also kill them.
CAN'T WAKE UP
Ive never seen a game that caused such seethe in browns, truly the white mans game
The shota in Maelle ending is young Verso, yeah?
purgatory
what a stupid fucking take
Then is not real either, nice self own. No, he does not have a special soul that makes only him sentient, and it would be dogshit writing to follow automatons for 40 hours.
stupid people enjoy games like this too. you don't need to "understand" everything. Just like life itself.
Maelle was born in monolith year 49
Parents were gommaged before she really knew them
Maelle was born to a ~45 year old mother
Is she an actual retard/downie?
ATTENTION
ATTENTION
DERANGED AUTIST ON THE LOSE
ATTENTION
ATTENTION
DO NOT ENGAGE
solid take i'll look at the story from this point of POV from now on
on the lose and losing so hard he's pretending it was all just a ruse now
embarrassing
I was so horrifyingly overpowered for that fight that I don't think I saw a single mechanic. I'm pretty sure I killed him in like two turns. Story bosses needed to be harder.
merely pretending haha
and now he's replying to himself lmao
this fuckin guy
Will poor people admit the game is good once they can pirate it?
i didn't make the obvious bait posts but now these two kids are gonna rage and seethe at me instead now kek
don't like my stupid fucking take on the story
well the joke's on you I was merely pretending
meds
FUUUUUUUUUUUCK I FUCKING FORGOT AN "O"
kek it was a good typo because it works in this context
Me understanding me doesn't make this story not shit. Shove your "le world is not real" developments and misery porn endings up your asses, pretentious cocksuckers.
someone reply to this I want to know
you need meds man. you seriously think i made the purgatory posts? i mean its obvious the guy is ignoring the games story and baiting. sorry for pointing it out to you retards
damn why so mad bro
go play some star ocean 3 then
Gamepass is $11. If anything is filtering people its the optimization. Overheated my steamdeck when I played without lowering TDP.
meds
now
okay retard
Do you mean the theatrical or director's cut
this thread
weekend Anon Babble is the best
Toxic positivity. The game is so good overall that people sant the story to be a 10/10 too. But it’s actually unsatisfying, nonsensical, low stakes, trope-filled etc. The story is weak the rest of the game is great
Maellejunkie escapism AGP troons are making themselves look ridiculous gain
Every day
this
gotta love it though
makes for a good laugh
I hope they never stop. Shit is hilarious.
noooo i didnt like le ending i am cry now because le ending is le sad why didnt the avengers save them
Unlike a traditional purgatory, Verso's torment is self-sustaining: the painter vs. writer war reflects his refusal to choose between confession (writing) and concealment (painting), locking him in stasis. Verso attempts to halt time itself, but the Axons, as temporal wardens, ensure his past and present collide endlessly, denying him escape or resolution.
Maelle’s ending, conversely, perpetuates his torment, undermining the game’s exploration of free will and ethical responsibility.
tfw no Gustave secret third ending bridging the two extremes
It was Verso’s final dying dream, him being able to accept that his family had forgiven him and let go. His guilt was what was keeping him from moving on.
I agree with this take. There's a lot I liked about the game but I checked out when I felt the story became meaningless shonen powerlevel shit.
The charges, officer?
Because coincidentally, everyone that says they didn't like the game usually have opinions like that of the resident autist we have shitting up the place
You can dislike the story, but you can't dislike the story because you didn't understand something that they explicitly explained to you
Toxic positivity. The game is so good overall that people want the story to be a 10/10 too.
That sounds about right to me.
E33 threads
People arguing about the story
People arguing about builds
BG3 threads
People arguing about sales
People arguing about how popular the game is
Most Anon Babble users can't figure out which of these two games was heavily shilled by marketers and which has genuine interest. Can you?
ITT
There were some good discussions right when the game released. Now it's nothing but fanboy schizos and hating schizos going at it
Both
why didnt the avengers save them
fucking spit cola all over my keyboard
steamdeck
lemao
Maman, Versochuds are making fun of me again!
its funny and makes Anon Babble seethe
your image looks like clit
I love this dialogue. The devs predicted this shit.
i've been playing through the ys series and in the later entries, the minimap basically becomes all i'm looking at. it tells me where to go, if there's items or treasure ahead, and it takes a lot of the fun out of exploration. no minimap is pretty refreshing when many games use one to coddle players so they don't miss anything.
Nonsensical
See? Retarded
It’s not about escapism, you have to be retarded to believe the stakes are Alicia’s level of enjoyment.
I have a PC too but I like to play stuff at work. Not a good experience because UE5 runs like garbage.
I played all the Xenoblade games so I knew what was going on.
Why do spergs reply to themselves?
I think the final form of Visages summons the masks if you don’t kill them. The question is why you’re invited to kill them. The “something off” is that the mask guardian is the true Visages. But yeah, the narration for Visages about Facto Verso and wearing many masks is I think key.
Also the narration over the boy in the Monolith.
There’s some conflict that caused the boy to stop painting, AKA by the metaphor, to stop dreaming and instead to wear masks. They’re telling us Verso’s story here
he doesn't understand that the existence of a 33rd December date acts as further reinforcement that the Dessendre's live in an alternate world where people can paint real worlds using magic
media illiterate retard for real
Verso’s motivations are non-sensical yeah. The devs also expected the player to care about the Dessendres, which is nonsensical of the devs.
do you like the stupid dances?
why are maellefags such stupid autists?
Yet if Renoir had won it would have been the same ending anyway, so Maelle BTFO Renoir is Verso’s guilt cope overpowering the protections of the child psyche
That is the point
There is NO argument about which ending is the good one and which one is the bad one
Now, if the characters in the canvas are real, only the fictional characters in the game know, because the fictional characters in the game are the ones with the power to create them
did you play xenogears though?
Mentally ill
AGP
Hormone therapy
Hebephilia
No my theory has explanatory power and makes perfect sense you just hate it because it’s new and overturns your low IQ autistic structure in your brain of how you’ve wrapped your head around the plot.
Autists are notorious for being unable to reinterpret things and get emotionally devastated when their (initial) interpretation of something is challenged
Except if painted minds are fake then Verso is also fake.
And it’d be retarded writing to have many emotional scenes between characters and then reveal ”they are automatons who didn’t experience any of it :)”.
If you don't actually know whether something is sapient, it's probably better to err on the side of yes instead of "I can't tell so just die I guess".
thats exactly what I was thinking too. I felt like I was going crazy. I think everything about the game is 9/10 except for the story. I feel like I have a good handle on understanding what's going on, it just wasnt as profound to me. But when I try to talk about it I get called an idiot and I was starting to feel like I was being gaslit or something, like I actually dont have a single shred of media literacy
waifufags have always been brainless
can someone tell me why this is seemingly the only piece of media in all of existence where you can't criticize the story
This is recent. It's amazing how a few bad actors can ruin any chance of legitimate discourse. Seriously, go to the archives and look at earlier threads for this game.
no Gustave secret third ending bridging the two extremes
I firmly believe there needs to be a DLC to address the climax of the story from the perspective of Gustave and/or the other painted people. As is, its all being rendered irrelevant in the face of family drama while either being controlled unknowingly or wiped out entirely.
extremely based ending compared to the Maelle slopfest. Choosing the Maelle ending should corrupt your save file, brick your system, and get you deported.
I did that Xenoblade 2 blade quest far after I beat the game. The dancing here was better of course since that quest was just retarded.
Please feel bad for the french aristocrat family full of self-righteous retards!
Slowly getting there...
You’re now just spamming sperg language for every post I make. Your emotional meltdown reveals you are obviously the biggest autist in the room
why do you keep posting
And it’d be retarded writing to have many emotional scenes between characters and then reveal ”they are automatons who didn’t experience any of it :)”.
Yes but you're forgetting there are many retarded people who think this unironically.
go away
I just want strong chicks in bikinis.
Yeah but not recently. I played it in 2009 and I don’t remember anything beyond the surface level and the music.
this reply is exactly what the post he was replying to was about man
automatons can't procreate
sure thing autist
you skimmed it
No more retarded then returning to the town you wanted to save and seeing them all get killed by magic powers but of course your 2 party members can come back though.
I honestly dont have faith the Switch 2 can run it.
You are mentally retarded
then
Yeah Maelle’s ending is the conflict being decisively resolved, but where Verso’s guilt won over his ability to accept forgiveness
switch 2 is just a wii-u bullshit remaster
Did Verso cum in Sciel?
You losers
posted on Anon Babble btw
hate on
on
you are an underage and you need to kill yourself NOW
autistic poster has delusions of grandeur
saddest part is he doesn't even realize it
Also explained
See how you fucking faggots are complete fucking cattle?
You are subhuman retards
I dont care about Maelle, I just don't want to kill Monoco.
he dindu nuffin
I thought it was a dumb scene. Forced drama.
lol I thought the square icon on her butt was a black spade tattoo
purgatory
way to prove you absolutely did not understand ANYTHING
This is the main reason I see people dislike the game's story. I definitely get it. An entire world of people with their own thoughts, feelings, ambitions are destroyed for these coddled French twats. If someone walked away from the game hating Maelle, Verso, Renior, and Aline, it's perfectly understandable
Seeing the autist still tripping this far down in the thread just fucking sent me honestly
don't think anyone here unlocked emeralda
he will never admit it due to the severe autism
Clea won't enter the painting and force Alicia out after she's finished with total writer death
it can't run on their potato pcs
hey retard, you know I can just instantly look up the specs right?
and it's not on switch
being a consolefag
Best IQ test that has ever been released probably
Imagine actually paying for an IQ test.
When you're a high IQ chad, people pay YOU to take IQ tests.
FINESSE
AND
PRECISION
Its explained with power level bullshit but its painfully obvious the devs painted themselves into a corner just like killing Gustave gave all his stats and items to Verso. They didn't want to commit to killing characters.
what a dumb post
I don't think you know what a potato is
you guiz are retarded
Millionaire nepobaby makes game about how sacrificing millions of plebs is morally just to save a single strand of hair on an elite girl
Very subtle
goddess my ass....
If the painted world is real then the single most devastating thing is Lune just sitting down once she realizes what Verso has done (in his ending).
It’s her accepting her entire life had no meaning whatsoever, everything she went through growing up and how winning the expedition would finally free her to have her own life. And then basically her God rejected her and so it was all pointless, even though they had won.
One of the most metaphysically cruel things I’ve ever seen.
you're right
I disagree with Maelle but I went with her ending anyway because I wanted to see her suffer and being stuck in her own delulu world will inevitably make her suffer more.
an asian reddit woman wrote the story
just fucking sent me
Is this some new retarded zoomer speak or am I le heckin crashing out?
but think of those poor aristocrats and how sad they are
This may be the most galling part of what goes wrong with the writing of the game. On the one hand, you have an entire microcosm of people fighting purely thanks to their will to survive in the face of forces beyond their comprehension. On the other, you have blue blood degens with powers of creation crying about their personal traumas as they unwittingly torment an entire realm of existences they created. They are like a Greek pantheon of gods tearing apart the world they govern because Zeus got into a spat with one of his children. I can't sympathize with them.
she didn't create the overall story or themes. just rewrote it so it wasn't shit
Guillaume co-wrote it with her
Highest PPM on the board
Why is this game so contentious?
Maellefags are Harry Pottertards too
LOL!, LMAO!
RIP Grahf
my father
The OP is inflammatory which is a proven tactic to get people to post more.
It attracts autists who are baited by the layers of narrative and then preserve their sanity by lashing out at any substantive discussion of the narrative other than their one narrow interpretation.
The game is very disorienting to them. They’ll defend their preferred narrative but then shit on the game in other threads calling it astroturfed.
Look at how much sperg my theory that the game is about Verso’s dying dream.
Yea, it’s very tone deaf. They even have little emotional scenes between them but they just come across as jarring because you know what they’ve caused.
anyone that isnt a r*ddit tourist knew this would happen
exactly this
Verso’s ending ties up the story perfectly, delivering the emotional payoff the game was building toward. Anyone who disagrees probably missed the point of the character arcs.
it's not a Nintendo game being discussed on nint nintendoGAF
He was right though?
There was a streamer on twitch last night that compared it to a family playing the sims & shitting on it. It triggered the fuck out of his chat. E33 fans really need to calm tf down.
oh god is that what luna is going to turn into is she ages
his ending makes the story pretty pointless unless you love the blue blood family which I didn't.
This game is turning into AoT levels of toxic positivity
Is that Julie? she cute.
streamer on twitch
I don't understand. If verso wanted to disappear so badly (his whole life purpose is to kill the paintress so that real renoir could erase everything) why did he hesitate so fucking much since the start of act 3? When he reunites with alicia and they go see real renoir, he should have been the first one to stab alicia in the back and tell renoir to get her the hell out of there so they could finally be free. Instead he starts hesitating, gets his arm grabbed by alicia and he ESCAPES with the only person that is holding his dream of dying back
Kek. I know it may be a bit more complex than that, and there is a female lead writer to be considered, but as soon as I found out the creator is apparently from a rich family, I thought to myself "huh, the writing suddenly makes a lot more sense."
so desperate he has to bring up streamers
o I am laffin
this entire franchise wouldn't exist without the xenogears story
luna
dad!! I'm going to keep playing the sims!! I don't care what you say!!
We need a new game where the writers trap the entire Dessendre family in a shitty smut novel and laugh as they all wither away in there
I did not hesitate even for a second
what entire franchise?
GO TO THE BATHROOM
haha you can have the sword
take your meds
dude it's totally purgatory lol
my favorite line up is fei, bart, and citan
Billy was a trunks wanna be
he needs to simplify the story like that because he's an autistic imbecile who mistakes he stupidity for intelligence, which is a trait of autism
What is there to not understand?
he stupidity
yes I'm half asleep sue me
retarded esl sperg thinks a single game is a franchise
Come to think of it, why ISN'T there a third option where someone from the painted world takes up the fight for their continued existence? Not for Maelle to be a god, but for their own sakes.
every person i've seen who has sided with maelle is dumb as fuck and no i don't think it's a coincidence
The French voiceover in White Sands, from the song "Lumière s'éteint" hints at Verso's inner turmoil and foreshadows his canon ending where he destroys the Canvas to free his family from grief.
it would be for naught
Expedition zero DLC
vs
A new story leading up to Writers vs painters feud? I have a suspicion why they started to fight, writers are critics of art, I can see painters not taking criticism of their works well
the fuck sciel and loon gon do
Because they are peons who couldn't stop a God from reentering the canvas. Sure they could invent some new lore to bullshit it but still.
I like the game and the story is presented nicely but at the end of the day it can, like all other stories, be boiled down to humorous summaries.
I can't imagine being autistic enough not to enjoy a bit of banter.
But dad!! mom was hogging the VR set all this time! it's my turn!
Completely fucking pointless. Maelle ending is the only one which does not waste my time.
Oh? "To those who come after?" "Tomorrow comes?" lmao yeah, but not you for you Lumerian fucks! I will nuke everything for the family I learned about five minutes ago and send Maelle back home to grieve all of you AND Verso! I am logical and le based XD
Shit is hilarious.
I'd like both an Expedition Zero DLC and sequel that delves more into the Writers.
spoiler]ID is Fei[/spoiler]
whoops
case in fucking point
for the family I learned about five minutes ago
Absolute retard
I dont want this life, I don't want to play the piano.
I dont want this life, I don't want to play the piano.
I dont want this life, I don't want to play the piano.
I dont want this life, I don't want to play the piano.
I dont want this life, I don't want to play the piano.
No
You are cattle
good one retard
kek
nice argument retard
Both endings gave us god tier faces. Lune's silent seething is perfect too.
eat the onions
Versotard melty.
I tried
The real one
But dad!! mom was hogging the heroine all this time! it's my turn!
go die in a fire
even fei focuses and takes over ID
It's more like
Dad please! I know that mom is killing herself with that heroine but I have self control! Let me overdose just a little, okay? I promise I won't do it as much
nuke all lumerians to save the family lmao
I'm just surprised that there seem to be so many people who immediately discounted the Lumerians and took the side of the family, going so far as to say that the people you experience most of the story with never even mattered at all to justify the choice they make.
NOOOOOOOOOO NOT MY LEMMINGS
calls himself Versochad
posts bad ending
retard
beef jerky power plants
I'm not a Versocuck, not recruiting me into your faggotry.
missing the point completely
he was put in maelle's ending with Chad visage to remind you his ending is the Chad choice
Can't cope with grief and move on
You'll die in the painting.
Your mother taught me how to chase the high without going full crackhead.
Alicia should probably do mushrooms desu
from what i've seen ITT most people who sides with verso openly admit the family might not be worth saving but maelle's ending is still worse because all that will end up happening is she'll die soon from being in the canvas too long and the family will then destroy it
did you get guiz know citan was doctor "Fei's" subpedant?
It's genuine psychopathy. The only reason I could understand siding with Verso is if you pity the last fragment of the real Verso's soul. Miss me with that gay ass Dessendre grief shit.
your mother is coping the same way as you are and she almost died
renoir is not forbidding her from staying in canvasses; he's forbidding her from specifically using THAT canvas
don't ry to be rational with these retards
kys
i just realized it's just some sperg samefagging so yes I feel a bit silly
sides
sided* even
weltal ID upgrade
I'm surrounded by faggota
I can cope and move on inside the painting. You can die in the real world as a silent slice of one eyed bacon that can't breathe :)
verso's ending - acceptance
maelle's ending - escapism
gee i wonder why this maelle autist is the way he is
This
can you point to some valid criticism of the story, at a certain point it becomes hilarious that the only people criticizing it either dont understand it or havent even engaged with it
you can stop samefagging
pity Alicia
pity verso
pity renoir
soul verso wanted to end it all
I felt nothing for Aline.
this is shakespearian level quality dialogue according to big brain clare obsuredditors
k
the sad part is he can't
Nobody over 95IQ cares about Maelle or Verso
So you are a tranny
imagine being more whooo than wheee like this retard
The real redpill is realizing that Maelle died in a Gommage and that bitch Alicia has basically nothing in common with her.
And much like maelle, most coping retards will find excuses of any sort to try to justify her choice
is that actually in the game? no wonder trannies are pushing this trash so hard
where in my post did I state otherwise?
the only family member worth a damn is renoir
am I the only one who likes ID?
Watching female streamers breaking down at this choice is highly entertaining.
Watching them coming back and picking Maelle's ending only to be hit with that horror ending is even better
filtered, Esquie is greatest mind of our time
Unfortunately he was the best character in the game.
I'm so sick of every modern game story being some millennial's insipid idea of grief counseling.
gotta love this post bump limit lazy ragebait
That's the hard truth Maellefags don't want to realize
Maelle coped with Gustave's death and basically went full Clea on Renoir and the paintress
she was starting to heal and move on at the end of act 2
Alicia takes over and shows how hard she's running away using Maelle as a shield
get rid of the 1 (one) good character so you can do a gay plot twist
it always reeks of desperation
It really is, the fun part is that they have enough understanding of story and themes to actually pick verso after meditating for long enough
Gustave was pretty bland right after he didn't suicide and never improved.
what plot twist?
I have checked dozens of redditor and other forum profiles and there is like a 1:1 overlap between posting on clair obscure forums and the same users posting on forums about gender transitioning
the question really isn't how many clair obscure fans are trannies but how many trannies aren't clair obscure fans
so remember next time you see someone shilling for this game- there is like a 99% statistical probability that you're talking to a troon
Not talking about this thread in particular, but that one anon going around calling everyone on the other side of the fence 'retards' isn't helping. I'm more referring to plenty of threads I see with constant claims that all Lumerians are essentially just chatgpt bots, therefore killing them all has no moral implication. Not sure why they latched onto that comparison specifically, may be one or two very vocal anons for all I know. Anyway, whole situation of the canvas is fucked one way or another with the given endings.
you don't side with either character but you contemplate what they're going to do
i fought as verso because i knew maelle/alicia would just turn into aline and verso just wanted to be free
the people of the painted world would cease to exist either way and it wouldn't take long after maelle's ending for her to die from going apeshit with the canvas
Versofags REALLY love troons. Not your fap bait, you disgusting shit.
I want sexy women doing funny dances
at least he had some depth- a man denied his comfy french waifu
asian chick- who honestly knows
the card chick- who knows or cares
maelle- entire personality is tied up with gustave
verso- brooding about his dad or something idk
Writes "Dessendre Family" in his notebook
Adds adjectives "Retarded" and "Dead"
Nothing personnel, paintchuds
exactly. morons don't realize both choices will still lead to the canvas' destruction. one will just take a little bit longer, and only a little bit as shown by her fucked up face.
Okay tranny
it's the same sperg who keeps using "versofags"
fuck you dad
here's a real IQ test for you all; in Verso's ending, who destroyed the canvas?
a man denied his comfy french waifu
he hated her for not wanting children you absolute fucking idiot
he only reconnected with her on the day of her fromage out of obligation
i'm not even going to bother reading the rest of your retardation
The soul stopped painting
did you guys know fei is cooler than sephiroth?
Does Anon Babble ever stop updating for minutes at a time for anybody else?
Is it a Anon Babble X thing?
and renoir would've destroyed physically when alicia woke up
she didn't want children because of the fucking gommage, that's the point, he even said 'in another life'
They only say that to make the choice easier on themselves. Why struggle with thinking about the consequences of your actions when you can just tell yourself "any potential negative is not real and doesn't matter" ignoring the fact it collapses the entire story instantly.
17 jeets using the same ip to derail every e33 thread
1 jeet wonders why 4chinners don't doesn't working
do you want to get whipped by a gear+?
no shit you fucking retard
she's not his "waifu" because she didn't want kids and he wanted them so bad he took in apprentices - he didn't speak to her for four fucking years
that's not being "denied a waifu"
you fucking retarded cunt
damn dude chill
he's already dead
No, he would hide it away
calm you autism you fucking nigger, I'm just using 'waifu' as a by-word for 'woman'
"she will always find it"
nah he'd destroy it because he's surrounded by crack addicts
lol retard
i sided with maelle because the entire dessendre family is made up of self centered pieces of shit. hopefully maelle staying in the canvas will only destroy that shit family further
fuck off back to reddiit
why is Anon Babble so schizo about this game
you know what that's absolutely fair
Anon Babble is schizo about every game
why is Anon Babble so schizo
gee i don't know professor
actually kinda based
the versofag poster is so dumb I can't even comprehend how he uses a computer
no this is like turned up to 100
I think most mental hospitals have a computer room nowadays
fucking kek I didn't think about that
did you guiz know esmeralda, and her gear is super secret?
holy fuck maybe verso's ending was the bad one..
The only person I feel remotely bad for is Renoir, I don't think he did anything wrong. I'm not sure who I hate more though, Aline or Clea. Probably Aline since her actions are single handedly what lead to Verso's canvas and all his beloved creations being torn apart and potentially destroyed. Also she treated Alicia like shit.
Fuck you Aline, Alicia's painting is good.
esmeralda is Fei's daughter
it's all a matter of perspective
WriterGAWD
I'm not sure who I hate more though, Aline or Clea
it's got to be aline and it's not even close
Link to next general?
fucks your hebe daughter and mindbreaks her
firebombs your fucking gaudy-ass mansion and kills your gay son
writerCHAD indeed
retarded girl with broken arms
no they're all fucking cunts playing god. they deserve to be locked inside some lovecraftian horror novel where they're the only characters and they die over and over until their souls wither and die
just like how the painted creations had to die for their selfishness
What did Clea do to deserve hate?
That was not the question, stfu
yes it was fucknut
Reminder that Aline EXPLICITLY made painted Alicia burnt, without an eye and a fucked up throat
yes it was
and burned maelle's and everyone's faces when she saw her and REEEEE'd
notice she spared verso that pain
The problem is people who are mentally deficient can't actually remember what happened in act 1 and 2. The dessendre drama is the most recent thing so it's all that matters.
dude is STILL replying to himself
holy fucking hell
Her response to Verso's death was basically to blame Alicia for it and turn into a cold hearted bitch. She used to love playing with Verso in his canvas, making nice creations of her own, but now all she paints anymore is horror abominations to destroy Verso's canvas. She looks at painted creations with contempt and no longer cares about all the nice things she and Verso made together. Worst of all, she left Francois hanging for hundreds of years.
kek yeah he's so easy to spot
her grief took the path of anger and she's quite harsh towards alicia like her mother and she did my boy simon dirty
it just blows my mind why you'd still try to self-validate your autism this late into a thread
why are versofags like this
Literally the theme of the game as seen through the eyes of verso's childhood plushy / imaginary friend who crystalized the innocence of a small child in the painted world forever.
the fact that you fail to see this is kinda a self own