I dont always play Morrowind, but when I do, I don't want decent light armor

i don't think there's any reason to play vanilla with that fucked up resolution.

This is probably unironically the intended way considering they likely expected you to get the expansions after you finished main game

OpenMW is better for more vanilla styled playthroughs. It has better performance, loading times, stability, etc.
MWSE's advantage is possessing currently more advanced lua capabilities. You use it to add new game mechanics and more complex changes that OpenMW isn't able to do as of yet.

dont

don't

Kill yourself

It's stable and doesn't need to be hacked to pieces with a bunch of external tools to do LOD (which makes the original game run even worse and be even less stable)
the only mods that don't work with it are old versions of weird ones that change the game so much a new player shouldn't be bothering with them anyway

How the fuck do you go fast without massive cheese early on
I just made a 1 sec jump spell to just hulk my way around as fortify speed shit are just too expensive at points and durations that matter

All the mods that make Morrowind way better for me are MWSE only. Ashfall camping is MWSE only and always will be, Crafting (which adds like 10 RuneScape style crafting skills to level) is MWSE only, PvP (which adds dodge and parry mechanics) is MWSE only.

The game legitimately isn't even good without MWSE mods. And I've never had more than one crash in 30+ hours despite using dozens of MWSE mods

Can you give me your list of must-have MWSE mods for "fun"

use your gold to train alteration, use jump spells. You will progress through various stages of jump and levitate kino as you go.

game bad because it's not some modern craftingslop

MGE XE

How do you make money without selling every single possible thing ever to the creeper and the mudcrab?

don't Kill yourself

thanks

I've never had more than one crash in 30+ hours

more stable than OpenMW, faggots will ignore this

Morrowind is only good when it's a survival crafting game

Bad bait.

by doing the same thing and selling random glass daggers to merchants, sure you get only 1/10th of their worth but its still enough to be rolling in gold

You don't need to. Morrowind is perfectly playable without any mods.

Arguably the only mod that you should look into is the expansion delay mod. The game really should have had that from the beginning.

Now that I think about it, are any of the factions actually economically rewarding when you do quests?
IIRC mages guild is great as you get a fuck ton of books and crap without having to steal them just lying around

can't even sell it to a merchant because they'll wear the armor ruining your immersion

can't sell it to Creeper because he pays full price so you have to sit there waiting 24 hours over and over again to sell each piece

You either go for the boots or take to the skies.

How the fuck does the actual math of selling shit work in this game anyways
I get that general goods/pawnshops pay jackshit compared to people who actually buy and sell the thing you're selling specifically but there has to be a way to make others buy stuff for a good amount too

can't even sell it to a merchant because they'll wear the armor ruining your immersion

There's an OpenMW setting in the launcher to fix that.

Fortify skill glitch athletics (IIRC) to 100. But it's still going to be slightly slower than the boots of blinding speed.

Sell price is modified by disposition and the NPC's mercantile (lower is better)

Enchant a ring like this.

Its a combination of:
Speechraft
Disposition
Mercantile
Personality
Luck
and fatigue
Unless you are averaging at 80 in those, its generally not worth the effort. If low level, the most you can do is stack a few 100 bribes to bring them up to +90 and don't forget to check your green bar

Early on

How are you affording this early on

OOEEEEERGHHHHHH

I'm mostly just looking for for graphic and animation mods and anything that might slow down the power creep that I hear about

Just reduce the level of the Jump enchant to something you can afford. That one is more for leaping to Elsweyr in a single bound.

The gimp suit is so much better than the PJs in oblivion and skyrim

OpenMW is not Morrowind. It is not a perfect recreation of the engine. Get code patch, patch for purists, and mge xe.

Yeah my next playthrough I'm not looting them, not using the scamp, not using the crab.

I don't get this criticism of MWSE. I use it and think I've had the game crash maybe once in 200 hours?

It's good enough

For getting shit enchanted by people, ehat reduces the price apart from the obvious wit the level of enchants

The openMW vs MWSE "argument" is mostly regurgitated opinions flung back and forth between people who don't play video games.

Mercantile, and I think disposition

At no point can you go fast without cheese, or you can fix the game entirely and never worry about these retards screeching about how "you're supposed to break the game with magic!"

You can use magic to become invincible too but that's not fun, neither is using magic to go super fast. It gets boring and stupid after like 5 minutes. Sorry I just want to have the option of.....moving at a normal rate of speed without using cheat magic.

You don't get the choice to walk or run in Morrowind, you get the choice to crawl or walk and at end game you can fly. Those are your choices. Forgive me if I want to be able to walk at a normal speed instead of crawling everywhere and or jumping across the map.

It also ruins combat because unlike the player, enemy NPCs don't lose fatigue for running, they will run after you across the entire island without breaking a sweat.

Everything in this post Make yourself a spell that fortifies Personality and Mercantile by 100 for 1 sec, that should drastically cut down on enchanting costs. Also make sure to always rest to full fatigue before any major transaction, not just when enchanting.

By fixing the game I mean simply grabbing a no fatigue run mod, that one simple change makes the first 10 hours or Morrowind 1000x better and anyone that disagrees is literally, unironically autistic

Creeper has 5000 gold. The total set of DB armor is worth 3200. The fuck are you talking about 24hr for each piece? It's not fucking glass armor.

he uses mods

you didn't beat the game

OpenMW is not Morrowind.

You're right, it's better. It's what Morrowind should have been

spell that fortifies Personality and Mercantile by 100 for 1 sec

Arent barters and stuff like enchant windows still real time?

Haha no
Unless you have a mod that does so

Might as well grab this on the way
nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/49177

Damn, I'm on openmw and my dialogues are real time

You probably have something like that Dynamic Actors mod

O-oh yeah I do...
I thought that mod did other crap

In Morrowind was Unarmored. Can donig mage class or hand to hand class

I'm using the open mw total overhaul mod list, but I'd like to have nude bodies so I can strip dead enemies naked and relish in perverse lust over their humiliating demise. Is that possible or do a single mod change break the config ?

what body mod does it use? You should be able to just reinstall that mod and chose the nude body in the fomod.

why did they add these characters into the game? i understand they were meant to be part of one of the expansions, but surely bethesda could see how making them attack the player at level 1 and giving you nearly infinite money was a bad idea for new players?

it also makes very little sense, why would the dark brotherhood have a contract against a level 1 nobody who just got off a boat and is unknown to everybody?

Bethesda used to make their own mods for the game

one of them added female boobplate versions of armors

what went wrong?

76 hours into current Morrowind playthrough

Suddenly game starts crashing a lot or doing strange things like black screen using mage teleport services

There's another character down the drain. Maybe next time I play I'll try OpenMW again instead of MGXE and see if that helps at all.

Playing a mage

Go unarmored

Find a CE light armor cuirass that boosts my intelligence and spell absorption

FUCK. It's too good not to use.

Man, you really aren't being subtle about this are you?

The data directories tab of the launcher is basically the MO2’s virtual folder system. If you already have the nude ver when you first setup the modlist then maybe it’s possible to just delete the current path to the normal version and append the path to the naked version in place.

mwse is better as of 2025
openmw if you only care about basic mods and vanilla experience

kek

? I don't really have a preference for either if anything I've been using MGXE in the last year because of stuff like Ashenfall or Cyrodilic vampires which don't work particularly well (at all rather) in OpenMW. It's just ever since the Narsis update hit my game has felt a lot less stable so I might as well try OpenMW again since ti's been 2-3 years since I last bothered.

Oh I wonder if this post was made in good faith at all, considering it describes an experience at odds with most other peoples and seems to be implying the astroturfed alternate way of playing is better.
I wonder if we'll ever know!

you were right to post a cat because you sound like a goddamn pussy

Unironically take your meds faggot

You can only take a part of the armor. For example, Arognians and Khajiit cannot wear closed helmets and boots.

You aren't fooling anyone.

300 hours into a morrowind save

character levels up

go to sleep

game crashes

all saves erased

PC bluescreens

I'm never using MWSE again. It's so unstable and clunky. Fellow MWSE bros: it's over.

Uh oh uppity
Are you Dagoth?

Actually amazing how some guy lives rent free in your heads

I would sacrifice all of you retards in a bloody ritual if it meant PT's Argonia project starting for real

Get the Nimble Armor mod for the true Unarmored experience. It makes unarmored into a Dodge chance ability (modulated by a permanent Sanctuary spell). It gives it to you and enemies. Combined with the PvP mod it results in a relatively good fix of the issue of combat becoming extremely trivial by level 15 for all but the end game enemies.

With PvP+Unarmored you can have good fun fights against even low level cave outlaws as long as they have a decent weapon and high unarmored skill which many do.

These two mods linked below + no fatigue run is the simplest way to improve the combat massively and can be turned on and off in seconds without any issues (
No fatigue is necessary because otherwise you will run out of fatigue dodging and moving in seconds while enemies don't because they don't use fatigue to run like the player
nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/51034
nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/48251

If you add no other mods but these and no fatigue run it makes the game at least twice as good as vanilla

project starts

there's nobody left to make or play it and it collapses before even a single release comes out

Good job

Calling out your bullshit isn't you living rent free in our heads. It's just people being tired of your shit and pointing out your shitty attempts at causing drama.

Do you recommend the entire 4NM gameplay overhaul?

The fact that people are even entertaining the idea that this is an issue for people today, as though a delayed expansion mod hasn't been essentially default for DECADES at this point is insane.
Bethesda should have made it so they only come at a point far into the main quest but they didn't so we have a mod to fix it.

Like I posted before (might have been in another thread yesterday) - the fact that Morrowind is still discussed and rated based on its vanilla version despite the fact that mods have fixed dozens of problems and have been essentially standard for DECADES now is insane.

If you're not playing Morrowind with basic fucking mods like Expansion delay and Patch for Purists and Unofficial Bug Fix and stuff like that....then you're playing the game objectively wrong.

Stop playing the game wrong then complaining about problems that only exist while playing the game wrong

I know your IQ is lower than the amount of posters in the thread but I'm not the same guy trying to shill OpenMW 24/7 because I prefer the script based mods that MGXE/MWSE provides. I'm just lamenting losing the main focus of my last few weeks of effort and contemplating whether or not I'll try OpenMW when I work up the motivation for this game in like, 5-6 months. Who knows maybe my next character then will not have a single issue and I won't bother switching since I don't really feel like re downloading openmw and moving my shit around if I don't have to.

Patch for "Purists"

You're the one playing the game wrong.

I've never tried it but in general no because you can download the parts you like from it and craft your own experience. I use N'wah shooter for archery and fast cast for spell casting and Shields up for active blocking, all those can be found separately from the same modder.

So my full combat mod set up from that modder who made 4N combat is - PvP, Shields up, Nimble armor, N'wah shooter, fast cast (forget the name but it makes the animation faster based on your speed stat).

No fatigue run is necessary too otherwise you can't dodge after like 5 seconds of combat, with it the game feels like dark souls but faster, in a good way.

There are some truly amazing other mods in 4N that I would like to try someday like the Combo Master mod but for now I'm happy with what I have and it's worked perfectly for me from beginning to end game now 30+ hours in

If you're not playing with "X" you're playing the game objectively wrong

I just use Legion armor because I'm too lazy to keep reequipping it

OpenMW is not Morrowind. It is not a perfect recreation of the engine

Good

joining the legion

why?

it's based

I don't think I've bothered joining the legion in at least 6-8 years is the TR stuff for it good?

Yes if you're not patching a 20+ year old game without fixes that have been around for 20 years you're objectively playing the game wrong.

they're colonialist occupiers oppressing a dark skinned people

they're based based based based based based based

Yes.

only based if you play as a female and get that nipple armor

Buddy, the Telvanni sent a little nigga to grow a mushroom in one of their forts and they didn't do shit about it.
The Empire are bitches who aren't actually doing anything to enforce any laws or treaties.

feel rich with my 30k gold

buy glass armor

Annnd it's gone.

get fucked s'wit

morrowind has the best spell making mechanic out of all of the elder scrolls games

buying armor

lol

you don't enchant it?

better nude bodies mod

I miss planet elder scrolls

I'm doing TR content on the hardest difficulty and shit keeps one shotting me. I was desperate for it. Had to haul my happy ass back to Ghostgate in Vvardenfell so those buyoant homos could sodomize my wallet.

spending money for gear

What are you, poor?

paralyze

sneak

steal everything

cast super friends spell

do you even know how to play morrowind, OP?

Gonna eat a nice dunmer approved lunch, hard boiled eggs dipped in siracha.

this weird thing just levitate by and killed everyone with lighting

EATING MY KWAMA EGG OMELETTE
I GOT A LOT ON MY PLATE

Ok apparently the black screens consistently happen ONLY when traveling to Andothren's mages guild hall via teleport services. I can walk to the guildhall by foot and entering it loads in just fine but using that teleporter is no good. I can't seem to replicate the experience with any other guild hall between the Firewatch connections, Vavardenfell connections, PT areas and whatnot so I have no idea what the fuck is going on with that one. At least that's one mystery partially solved

that's a thunderstorm, s'wit

What should I be enchanting my armor with?

shh that was me

that's up to you

Charm cast on touch.

I put max level Fortify Strength on everything and I wish there was something different so I could change it up. But it's just too good. It's carry capacity, damage, fatigue, and movement speed all in one. I can't pass it up.
I guess constant restore fatigue 2-3 points is a nice QoL too.

morrowind has double the armor of oblivion and skyrim. utilize them

What for? Dodging is an accidental hit. In dark souls, a somersault is responsible for dodging. In morowind, the best shield is just an automatic parry.

That can't happen. We never had any bug. In fact no bug was ever patched because there was none to begin with. Anon is clearly delusional, get him to a shrine.

Depends on your build.

the best shield

the beat shield is over powered magic

A bug report? That's interesting, Anon. I'd like to interview you more about this, so we can work on fixing it. Come with me to the Ministry of Truth.

30k

Rich

I felt poor when I was sitting at 57k. Went to try to enchant a ring and the enchanter decided her services were going to be a meager 150k

I had over 3 million gold stacked in one room at the corner club when my game broke.

Nice. You gotta be constantly changing the difficulty to suit yourself best. I even got some mods that let you change it more specifically (making it harder for yourself but not the enemies or vice versa)

It just works very well with other mods to create a very fast paced and intense combat experience with even lower level enemies. With the PvP mod that adds parrying it's almost like you're in a swashbuckling pirate fight any time you encounter a regular guy with a sword.

Both the party and dodging mods apply to enemies as well as yourself of course

Same, I love bringing the boot of the empire down on dungmer, I wonder if TR is going to implement any Blades questlines or content for a similar style of RP, so far there's maybe 3 Blades trainers on the mainland that don't do anything.

Actually I think I've finally figured it out. Narsis update changed Andothren's name to Bal Foyen and every building in the town is now renamed to Bal Foyen. The mages guild teleport services still call it Andorthren however which makes me wonder if it's attempting to send me to the old Andothren mage guild hall cell which no longer "exists" since it's been renamed, causing the effect.

Indoril ruins west of the river inhabited by ghosts and (usually) friendly daedra

the Indoril ghosts all have a massive hateboner for the hlaalu

Quite kino dungeon desu

It has a funny Morag Tong quest linked to it involving killing one of the ghosts who iirc the Tong says is just gonna come back again someday so you're really just putting him back to sleep a decade or two

You can't put anything good on gauntlets or pauldrons tho

My Temple Patriarch character made his home there. When Indoril will be playable I will definitely use that place again because it's great.

Looks like a BDSM dungeon gimp.

Don't forget the secret scroll from there.

OpenMW is for "purists", because it doesn't have wide compatibility with the majority of mods. So it's mostly for the people who consider "Vanilla+" to be all they want out of modding.

If you really want to get into extra content, scripted mods, or things that really get in and play with the structure of the game to create a new or fresh experience? Gotta use base Morrowind unfortunately.

I figured this out blind and when I realized what the scroll was for I shit bricks.

Got the bug to play Morrowind again.

I've played it 100 times before, long enough and enough playthroughs over the years that probably half of the mods I loved having no longer exist and have been lost to time.

Base game is fine, I have no problem doing a vanilla run or at least start, but I always crave some sort of new way to experience the game.

On Wabbajack, find a pack called Outlander, it looks interesting.

It actually is really interesting when installed, because it gives tons you custom scripted options for character backstory that change how you start, where in the world you start (including TR locations), and what stuff you start with.

Despite all of this, it's super unstable, and hard to really call it playable without lots more fixes and releases.

Shame.

The big monocle makes me think of something out of Jak and Daxter.

Just make it yourself, don't use fucking bloatware modpacks made by retards. What exactly is it from that list you want?

surely bethesda could see how making them attack the player at level 1 and giving you nearly infinite money was a bad idea for new players?

yes, they could

I've never had good luck with Wabbajacks personally regardless of the game. Last month I got the urge to play Oblivion again and used some Wabbajack that added a ton of shit but it also hard crashed every 30 min or so.

God bless the dark brotherhood for supplying me with a steady supply of money early game

Sleep in Fighter's Guild bunk bed

Assassin wakes you up

He spawned clipped into the bunk bed and can't move

Out. Fucking. Skilled.

The mod for the starting scenarios is probably this
nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/56341?tab=description

be Emperor

have shady connections all over Tamriel

hire the Dark Brotherhood to send their weakest shittiest recruits to "kill" you over and over

a foolproof untrackable way of sending you funds

Emperor, King, and justice.

black

big lips

crack eyes

what did they mean by this

Dark Brotherhood fucking SCAMMED him

not him but it's just easier to download a list close to what you want and then edit it from there

Emperor

Helseth's not the emperor.

I've never actually got into Tribunal. Who the fuck is sending the assassins? That god-whore?

Helseth, because he knows you're the Nerevarine and thinks you're a threat to his power.

That's a nice ring you have there, King Helseth

[quicksaves]

Tribunal has SSE

But you have to slog through ALL Of Tribunal to get to SSE

i don't know about mwse but openmw has an option to grey out dialogue options you've already selected

isn't using the pickpocket mod to steal it off him and then never use it

It's fairly short and you get a great sword off it. Then you can enjoy SSE.

Mushrooms are cool, you would keep it too

No way dude, you can easily download and install like 50 mods in an hour or less and when you do it that way it's infinitely easier to make it perfect for your specific tastes.

every tribunal redo outside of it is shit

look everyone! I'm doing the epic exploit thing =)

inventory isn't full of 5000 mudcrab meat, 5000 small kwama eggs, and a full set of stolen grandmaster alchemy equipment ready to convert everything into potions of restore fatigue to sell for the next month in-game time

Do you even exploit?

you can easily download and install like 50 mods in an hour

Only if you're already experienced and know what mods to look for. There's heaps of trash to dig through before you can find good mods, you can't just download the most popular ones.

What about Creeper is an exploit?

what about a merchant unaffected by mercantile skill is an exploit?

I just go to the categories and sort by most downloaded and install what looks cool desu. If I have something I want I Google "what I want Morrowind mod" and that often works.

Mostly just checking top downloads/endorsements in each category though.

That is most definitely a basic feature of like Morrowind Code Patch or something used by everyone. I can't see how you wouldn't have that enabled with even the most basic mods

It's a UI Expansion feature

I have 90+ mods running on MO2 and I do not get crashes. I haven’t even ever used MLOX/or bash patch, I just took a weekend and really took my time in the order I installed the mods/archives/follow instructions.

The fact that you can actually get more money than an object is worth by buffing mercantile skill with a spelland selling it to a real merchant, whereas creeper only ever. The fact that he's in the game and is intended to be sold to, therefore it's not an exploit like say, abusing alchemy to boost stats to obscene levels (devs didn't intend for you to do this) or using the soul trap glitch for permanent spell effects(classic exploit using a bug in coding to make the game behave in ways it wasn't meant to).

Yeah it's very confusing to hear people say OpenMW is best for "stability". I've never had any issues with game stability, I don't understand what these people are doing to have stability issues.
If OpenMW ever crashes at all then that's a problem lol

put slowfall on a seperate ring.
you can make the rings yourself with around 40-50 enchant and either a bunch of soulgems or save scumming.

whereas creeper only ever.

Whereas creeper only ever gives max value

what is SSE

Sotha Sil Expanded

It's not that I disagree, it's that I am wise enough to use fatigue potions. The mod would be extra af

light armor in the game is really crap, so they added a decent set of light armor. the expansion also padded out medium armor a bit more.

Skyrim Special Edition
In his quest to get it onto every device in existence, Todd the Godd snuck Skyrim into every download of Morrowind GOTY

I intent to exploit the freak out of alchemy to craft my usual constant enchantments. I just want to roam the island, explore Tamriel and read the books. Kinda bummed I lost my saves from five years ago (pic related)

if you didn't beat the game in 300 hours then you deserve it

Thank you for reminding me to install the mod that delays this retarded shit. Breaks the whole early game.

delayed expansion mod hasn't been essentially default

you didn't beat the game, cuck

Always use best attack = off
Beast race
Medium Armor
No alchemy
No Amulet of Shadows
No Apprentice or Atronach birthsigns
No bound equipment spells
No creature merchants
No custom enchantments
No custom spells
No Mark, Recall, Divine Intervention, or Almsivi Intervention
No selling Dark Brotherhood assassin armor + delayed expansions mod
No other mods
No taunting
No training

he stops playing when he beats the game

Oh look it's this autist again

armor

You didn't beat the game.

openmw has tes3mp if you want to play with friends, mind you the version it is on is a bit dated, but I have a server right now with a friend, TR and ton of other comfy mods, been playing through it the past 2 weeks, the new city alone consumes all the hours

Not installing a mod to keep unarmored at level 1 eternally.

no bikini armor mod for morrowind

shit game

How does Narsis run in OpenMW?

mwse or openmw

None. All the mods you need are the following:

-Better Bodies

Better Heads

Galsiah’s Character Development

Morrowind Unofficial Patch

Better textures

More Money for Merchants

This just sounds like you're trying to turn Morrowind into a gimped Daggerfall. Also

no taunting

What does that mean?

instead of being attacked twice in the first 10 hours you will instead be attacked once in 10+ hours

ok

I did beat the game.

There is a million biki armor mods for morrowind wtf are you talking about

its odd, sometimes it can be low, but it around 30fps desu, you get used to it fast due to how much shit there is to just take in, exploring alone could take days, its like a thieves wetdream

Headcanon is that DB is just on top of the fact Emperor had you specifically come to Morrowind under the pretense of fulfilling prophecy, so they send assassins. Alternatively I like your premise, earned funds.

bosmer

why is this forest goop elf giving Lord Vivec a handy jay?

You were saying, dungmer?

Cannibal barbarian

>no taunting

What does that mean?

Are you stupid?