Well, Well, Well

Well, Well, Well..

..Look who came crawling back to the only good Doom game after Doom 2.

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That's a very odd cover for Doom64.

Doom 3 never considered a bad game, it was to some degree disappointing in comparison with HL2, that felt like a new generation of shooters

the mental gymnastics of millennial sissies

this is you rn

Doom 3 never considered a bad game

this is peak revisionism
every single review called it out for trying too hard to be edgy instead of focusing on the stuff that made Doom 1 and 2 so good

This is just contrarian
Doom 3 was absolutely terrible, the best thing that can be said about it is that it was a tech demo for the new graphics at the time
Failed as a Doom game because small numbers of enemies and boring levels
Failed as a story-driven game, everything that it did "okay" was done better by Half-life or even games like System Shock
Failed as a multiplayer game, it was astonishing to release a four-person multiplayer whatever after Quake had completely changed online play
It might be considered passable as a slow-paced horror game, but then again Doom 64 was creepier and more unnerving while having much more action

DOOM 3 is a pretty good game but it's so different that it should've been a spin-off, the real DOOM 3 is 2016.

independently creates a new shadow rendering algorithm for the game at the same time some other guys do

wants to make doom 3 code open source

has to slightly modify source code to dodge patents the other guys filed for

Just Carmack things.

In my opinion carmack alrdy was too deep into the vr meme when making this. All the changes make incredible sense when you play it with a headset. So it's a great doom vr adaptation but a worse modern doom than 2016 (after you found the thing that speeds up the mini cutscenes). The other two are flat out sequels of other games with a doom cartoon paint coat no matter if you like them or not.

/thread

You forgot to mention 2016 and Eternal

What's the best way to play this game in 2025? I've seen a ton of hate for the BFG edition, but I'm guessing the original game doesn't play so nice in 2025, or does it? Then again F.E.A.R. is perfect, with the exception that the UI is too small at high resolutions.

There was a huge gap between doom2 and 3, 2 console generation, nobody gave a fuck about classics dooms until the 10s

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Peak revisionism is seeing multiple people coming out saying the shotgun is "fine". How much contrarian gas do you have to be huffing to make that statement?

Why is it when someone tries to make a point they always employ hyperbole

"nobody gave a fuck about classic dooms until the 10s"

You fucking dunce.

doom 3 is the best one

This is just contrarian

Doom 3 might be the worse case of widespread contriarianism in gaming, worse than the MGS4 defenders. Doom 2016 being popular fully mindbroke them.

they still do with updated geometry and textures

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Beta weapon models.

Marine helmet mod.

Birdie Hell Knight.

Kino, Doom 3 is really fun to do no death runs on too, like Dead Space.

When I look up Doom3 online it's almost universally praised with some legit criticisms here and there, where does the meme of Doom3 being hated come from

i wish people would actually play Doom 3 and realize it does have everything that makes a Doom game, a Doom game. Key cards, puzzles, hidden ammo and weapon stashes, all the guns, demons not only hiding around corners but also spawning in to fight, etc.
Doom 3's not even that slow of a game, depending on how you play (and whether or not you sprint) you can actually sprint through the game pretty quickly.

but why did the marines have bare arms?

tfw the sourceport that has VR doesn't support this shit

had hell of a time just getting decent textures onto that version
we really need a new VR sourceport for Doom 3

how else do you show your muscle off to demons

New doom was better, doom 3 tried to be a horror game, it was dark as shit and you couldn't have both flashlight and a weapon at the same time. You also fights in tight spaces so good luck to dodge projectiles or run away from the enemy. It's nod a bad game of course, but that was a very different turn in the series.

flashlight and a weapon at the same time

It's very rudimentary resource management, this is one of those normie complaints everyone has seen a million times before, then when you actually play the game, it really isn't that bad, and actually has something of an interesting tempo to it, it takes 1 second to do.

this. It's not like the flashlight is too different from the light amplification goggles in og doom

doom 3 tried to be a horror game

Same as the first games, in case you didn't know

what mod

The flashlight is way simpler and easier resource management than chainsawing shitters in Eternal, I don't know how people could play Eternal and then find the flashlight in 3 to be so 'bad'.

I honestly believe Doom2016 started off as attempt to take the good things from Doom3 like atmosphere, writing and general storytelling while improving on the criticised aspects like cramped environments and sometimes lackluster weapons and combat. Visually, 2016 takes alot of inspiration from Doom3, ranging from some monster designs to the entirety of Mars locations that look like they could be straight from Doom3 just with high def assets.
Then some faggot cororate suit walked and shat all over the game and now we have the epic adventurs of John Doom(c) (tm) with ADHD spasm gameplay, sword and shield faggotry, press F for awesome, funkopops and gay Marvel lore.

Failed as a story-driven game, everything that it did "okay" was done better by Half-life or even games like System Shock

This is what gets me. Even if you like what Doom 3 was trying to go for other games also did that and did it so much better.
FEAR is the best Doom 3

It's funny to me Hugo loves 64 so much, and yet has zero interest in having the newer titles (aside from 2016) being horror.

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Retarded revisionists who think DOOM = whatever the fuck Eternal and 2016 were. These people have also not played the originals or DOOM 64 for the most part.

People made fun of low polycount.bad enemy models even back then.

For comparison, this is what an enemy model made by more competent 3D artist from an AAA 2004 FPS looks like. Notice how it doesn't have a "triangle head".

good things from Doom3 like atmosphere

Okay

writing and general storytelling

lol
lmao even

yeah the Doom16 gameplay reveal absolutely was going in a Doom 3 but better gameplay direction. I always think of the hell knight hologram.

ZIP ZAP WHOOSH ZOOM ZOOM

BECAUSE IT'S COOLER OLD MAN, YOU JUST DON GET IT AYO WHERE MY HOMES AT WE GONNA SUCK EACH OTHER OFF

yeah that's the problem with it, the levels are designed like a claustrophobic survival horror game which doesn't gel with the gameplay which is literally lifted from quake
The OG is definitely horror if you stop to look at some of the gruesome assets and sounds
2016 had a lot of doom 3 visual DNA you could say but it doesn't dwell on it

nobody asked nor cares

Doom 3 was absolutely terrible

And it was highly praised by game journalists (actual non shills who still existed back then) and players alike
You never played the game on release and you're a nigger faggot who only started playing games in the 10s, fuck off

Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal don't count as Doom games because they're too different

But Doom 3 is a TRVE BLOODED DOOM GAME

This is why no one takes 3tards seriously.

nobody gave a fuck about classics dooms until the 10s

They were niche, but still kinda popular
I remember playing Doom 2 on my Nokia N81

because its boring. Thats the actual problem with Doom 3: its really, really boring to play

lol

lmao even

Doom 3 was one of the early (maybe not the earliest) pioneers for data log-type storytelling, and environmental storytelling. You should see how similar Dead Space 1 and 2 are to it.

Doom 2016 and Eternal don't have a single monster closet.

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Doom 3 was one of the early (maybe not the earliest) pioneers for data log-type storytelling

this nigga really never heard about System Shock

Thats the actual problem with Doom 3: its really, really boring to play

If you find the entirety of 3's gameplay to be boring, that's fine, but we're talking about the flashlight.

Doom 3 was made by Carmack so it's Doom no matter what you say, lil homo

nigga system shock only released a year after doom

this nigga really never heard about System Shock

And this nigga has no reading comprehension when I say it was one of the "early pioneers" since I naturally assume there were probably other titles which did it beforehand.

id without Romero is soulless.
Romero without id was a trainwreck.

And it was highly praised by game journalists (actual non shills who still existed back then) and players alike

He actually thinks game journos were ever not shills

LMAO dude I was there everyone was shitting on Doom 3 for being lame as fuck.

This is what the Doom franchise should play like, not that old boomer slow shit.

data log-type storytelling

I'm pretty sure System Shock 2 was doing it way before
Yeah

I naturally assume

which does mean that you somehow never heard of System Shock

did you know that Dead Space was supposed to be System Shock 3 really early in development? Not Doom 3:2

carmack was still around for most of 2016's development iirc he was mostly doing doom 3 VR and some work on snapmap though

Imagine being as much of a hipster as OP is.

I'm pretty sure System Shock 2 was doing it way before

Try to read more slowly next time, speedreader-kun.

since I naturally assume there were probably other titles which did it beforehand.

You could not make it more obvious your attachment to Doom 3 is because you played it as a child

Delete your post, zoomer. Just delete it

Do you guys ever wonder what would've happened if we lived in the universe where Call of Doom happened as Doom 4?

So where's all the shitting on Doom3 when you look it up online its mostly praise

did you know that Dead Space was supposed to be System Shock 3 really early in development?

Yes, but do you assume Doom 3 had absolutely no influence on it either?

I was there everyone was shitting on Doom 3

it sold 3.5 million copies, a massive amount of 2004 and by far most successful id game

Carmack is also a hack just like Romero what's your point

Out of curiosity I just grabbed some contemporary reviews

IGN: 8.9/10

ign.com/articles/2004/08/06/doom-3-review

PCGamer: 94%

neoseeker.com/forums/4731/t411792-pc-gamer-first-review/

Ars Technica: 9/10

arstechnica.com/gaming/2004/08/doom3/

I have to confess I rather liked 2016 but something about Eternal just made me go "Ah FUCK this" and drop it before the end, and Dark Ages just looks like "We listened to your complaints and decided Eternal wasn't nearly reddit enough so we've turned that shit up 200%, bone apple tea" so I can't even bring myself to pick it up

I'm pretty sure System Shock 2 was doing it way before

Invented by Zork actually.

this genuinely looks terrible, like some mobile game where everything wants to give you epilepsy

can't duct tape your flashlight to your weapon on mars

design game around this mechanic

they patch it so you can

makes half the game redundant

ID are hacks and if you played doom 3 where you could flashlight with your weapon out you never played doom 3

Just play System Shock 2 and report back, it's like Doom 3 but good (but also bad in other ways).

Yes, but do you assume Doom 3 had absolutely no influence on it either?

he thinks doom 3 was the first game to have dark areas in it

jesus christ man

Demons looked far better in the CoD version. 2016 turned them into cartoons.

No, you're still shit.

you don't have to play it like that, but it gives you freedom to play it like that

We would have gotten a game that 3tards would have eaten up as everyone else hated it

everyone was shitting on Doom 3

Sure thing, pedro
The game magazine I was reading back then gave it a 9/10. It had no ties to the publisher because activision wasn't operating in my country yet
I was personally blown away by the game, though less so than by HL2

Just play System Shock 2

I did.

And I've played Dead Space 1 a million times, when I did a recent playthrough of Doom 3 on one of the source ports, I couldn't help but notice how similar they were in a lot of respects, especially with PDAs and listening to logs to open lockers and doors.

Although reminiscing about the old Dooms with their monster closets and other quirks is charming in its own way, it makes Doom 3 a bit difficult to approach. Unless you're able to connect things to their ten-year-old predecessors, many features might seem annoying or poorly designed. The ultra-modern exterior hides a very old-fashioned shooter underneath.

Some reviews called the design outdated even then. lol

it sold 3.5 million copies, a massive amount of 2004

and? you can dig up plenty of forum posts of people thinking it sucked ass

and by far most successful id game

oh you're just a retard

Um I'm just signing this piece of shit like you asked

Doom3 isn't Doom, unlike nuDoom

I'm gonna puke

Dark areas.

That has little to nothing to do with what I'm talking about. Why do you people intentionally speedread, then misinterpret everything and waste everyone's time on top of it?

if that's true then Doom3 likely sold more copies than Fart Ages ever will

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Carmack is a divine deity and Romero is a demigod

the old Dooms with their monster closets

that didn't exist, while the faggot was literally playing one with monster closets

The guy calling it a pioneer is a retard but there's no denying that there's System Shock DNA in Doom 3. Like 10%, maybe 5%. That's in no way a bad thing.

It also had a story. A cliche, barebones story, but just a bit more than the anti-story that previous installments had in keeping with Carmack's "storylines in porn" philosophy. There was Anthony Hopkins Guy, he fucked everything up, Shady Corporate Guy did a surprisingly honest job trying to stop him, Army Mentor Guy was actually a creepy traitor, like twenty different guys were hearing weird noises so they put a rocket launcher in locker 8675309 for you, etc. It's fine.

I rather prefer the whole story thing it did, which could have felt like your favorite '80s scifi schlock movie, to the later installments turning into

and then the dude with the awesome voice who is an alien pretending to be an angel pretending to be a robot pretending to be Elon Musk betrays you because he thinks he's more qualified than you to fight Satan, who is actually God, who is actually your dad/identical twin, whose role was usurped by an iPhone that thinks it's God, as was written by Lemmy in the Ancient Scrolls of Badassness during the First Darkhell War when Doomguy was the strongest of all of the Doomguys in the Doomguy Fighting Academy so even the demons wrote songs about how badass he was and then he beat up my dad

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What's with the recent Doom 3 vs nuDoom posting? blatantly inorganic and reeks of some kind of discord gayops

That dithering

Noooo, only modern games do that! Old graphics were clean and sharp with REAL optimization!!11

The game magazine I was reading back then gave it a 9/10

Game magazines were infamous for giving any major game a great score unless it was straight up broken. Obviously Doom 3 was not a broken game and was visually stunning for its day so it was always going to get a great review despite having shit guns, shit enemies, and shit levels.

though less so than by HL2

Ironically enough that game had similar problems. People were overimpressed by Source and its physics tech + facial animations (which are still impressive to this day given we live in mocap hell) that they ignored how dogshit the enemy ai was and how boring the game can be.

The cope from nudoom fans as they're now backtracking about how the old games had the same cycle, ignoring that Simon Says Eternal had the same issues too, it's just gone to a head with this one. NuDoom immediately got bad the moment that one latinx lead dev member came aboard right after 2016. Since then he completely switched out the original team until it was almost entirely nepohired hispanics. You can physically see this in one of the development preview vids ID put out on their official channel. Almost the entire dev team of Dark Ages was hispanic. There was not a single white finger involved in the coding or development of this game. But that's to be expected when Blackrock made sure Debra was in a role, even when the dev team knew it would be too on the nose if the only other major voiced character in the cast was literally just her and her peanut head in another game for the tenth time. Osu but as a FPS isn't a good gameplay loop, it being a LITERAL loop also doesn't help. 2016 allowed freedom of play in whatever you wanted. Both Eternal and Debra Ages takes away that, in fact they doubled down with the fact you literally have to use the shield.

You're shit, fag

Like 10%, maybe 5%

More than that, I'd go up to about 25% personally.

The guy calling it a pioneer is a retard

In what regard? Doom 3 was not a failure by any means. It was absolutely one of the pioneers (note the plural, fucktard) for that kind of data log-type storytelling, retard.

Carmack is a divine deity and Romero is a demigod

no they are not. They are two men with very specific strengths that complimented each other almost perfectly. But their egos and autism meant that they couldn't work together for very long and when separated it became increasingly obvious that neither could replace the other.

dude that's a modded screenshot, calm down

Doom 3 has elements of Doom 1 and 2

this reviewer says that's outdated in Doom 3

over 20 years later people want that same Doom formula

grim lol

if that's true then Doom3 likely sold more copies than Fart Ages ever will

sold a fraction of 2016 and Eternal though

sounds like a love story

a very old-fashioned shooter underneath

That's not the own that you think it is
This braindead reviewer literally called Doom 3 and old school Doom game. Which literally proves the point that Doom 3 is in fact Doom. Haha, lol. Ironic

plenty of forum posts of people thinking it sucked ass

Yeah, I read that. Most of the replies under such posts were something like this

what are you smoking, crackhead? the game is amazing

didn't read, Doom 3 sucks ass and will never be as beloved as 2016 and Eternal

Romero is just butthurt that Quake 3 and Doom 3 are way better games than Daikatana

Jesus, that looks so oddly photorealistic despite the fact that it predates PBR. Even nu-Doom looks oddly stylized in spite of its high fidelity.
Sure, those are some huge ass triangles, but the normal map compensates for that.

it's people reminiscing on older Doom games because a new one came out. Happens everytime.

I really liked it back when it came out. Loved it really, plus I was young enough to get really immersed in (and frightened of) the whole horror angle and I didn't have enough experience with games to notice "problems" like imp spawn animations being so long you can often just run up to them and shotgun them in the face before they even move.

Played it a few years ago in VR again, also enjoyed myself but less than I did when I was a kid, despite VR being a super cool addition to it. I still kinda like it more than 2016 and definitely more than Eternal.

Guns.

Sounds like Anon Babble.

someone disparages game

"OK, ERIC! SNOYS LOST!"

>what are you smoking, crackhead? the game is amazing

yeah and then everyone would laugh at them for liking such a shitty game

Ofc with such advanced 3D graphics for the time there are only a couple enemies on screen at once. So not old school Doom.

he was too much of a casual to beat final doom

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>Just play System Shock 2

I did.

Then why did you say, assuming you're the same poster "Doom 3 was one of the early (maybe not the earliest) pioneers for data log-type storytelling"? You didn't have to "assume" anything. SS2 had audio logs in 1998,m and SS1 in 1994, 10 years before Doom 3. How is Doom 3 "one of the early pioneers"?

It might! And I would much rather play TDA, btw.

Army Mentor Guy was actually a creepy traitor

See, the fun part of Doom 3 is that we have absolutely no idea. Kelly could've been on it since the beginning, because he wanted a sick-ass hovertank lower body, or maybe he was corrupted by Betruger, who knows? You never see villains' perspective on the matter. There are dozens of audio logs recorded by technicians, engineers, janitors, and not a single one by Sarge, Betruger, Swann or his bodyguard, the actually important people who could offer unique perspectives on the story.

It's like they played SS2 and took all the wrong lessons from it.

Well, that too, sure

Good post, have a (You)
Nigger

was one of the early

Please try to read more slowly next time.

How is Doom 3 "one of the early pioneers"?

Because Doom 3 is 20+ years old.

Was it really necessary for the kindhearted scientist lady that helps you in RoE to have giant tits
Massive honkin bazongas
Overfed sweater puppies

It's TEN YEARS between SS1 and D3. You can't be an "early pioneer" if you copy a TEN YEARD OLD MECHANIC. No matter how much you want to glaze Doom 3, it does not add up.

Has anyone here played it in PCVR? Any good?

Nigger

I accept your concession

You can't be an "early pioneer" if you copy a TEN YEARD OLD MECHANIC.

Yes, you can.

Can't scare me when I have a rocket launcher. But when you put me in a dark room with no option to have both flashlight and a weapon at the same time - you actually put a lot of effort into it. It's like saying that 2016 Doom was scary just because there was blood and gore.

crawling back

.......but I never left

foreign rating

Hello, CIA?

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2016 is redditor goyslop tho albeit.

The world is a big place anon. Bigger than cleetusville that has 5 thousand people and only 4 surnames.

Like with Serious Sam 3, it almost felt like as if VR was the way it was meant to be played.

In a cute fox girl

Haha imagine if human anon wanted to rape my gamer ass haha

i just played the steam version
the only i needed to change manually was the resolution to 3840x2160 in the config file

Hello, NSA and Seal Team 6?

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no it was looked stiff, hf2 looked better. Carmack was sucking his own dick at this point. they even cheated the lighting.

Decent horror, not a good Doom game.
The combat pretty much sucked and even trying to mod into anything more fun action was impossible

You would know if you had spent several years in the gym

essential HD

No - Redux is the only mod that matters.

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there are only a couple enemies on screen at once

So not old school Doom

I'd like you to talk to the Doom 64 fans

game was shit buddy. I went back to playing Quake 1/2

you have autism, anon.

get fucked in the ASS zoom zoom. you have the attention span of a goldfish.

why do they have Nazi helmets

In space you can say heil hitler.

Half-Life

flashlight is a toggle button

makes dark areas playable

Doom 3

flashlight switches with weapon

dark areas are fucking too annoying to fight in

That's just fucking retarded.

game was shit buddy

Nah, bro, I swear it was cool and scary as heck, I'm telling ya

I went back to playing Quake 1/2

Respectable

there's like a handful or areas wher this actually applies, this was always the gayest most limpwristed complaint about Doom3

except zoom eternal does not give you any freedom at all

HELLO I'M CIVVIE 11 AND HERE'S MY PRO DOOM 3 VIDEO I'M A REAL BOOMER SHOOTER FAN

doesn't know how to duck

That was pathetic

slightly offtopic, imagine a 00s Aliens Colonial Marines made by OG id with idTech engine, it would've been glorious

That's jewish propaganda for you, kid.

ID devs just subconsciously assumed that if something's evil, then you can compare it to Nazis and the like. It's not a bad thing because they've been told this their entire lives by jewish "experts" and "historians," so it's widely acknowledged that "Nazis are evil." This is why they added a swastika to one of the Doom 1 levels too. Thankfully, the jews lost a bit on this matter, and a bit of historical revisionism happened

Reminder to love and treasure these lil niggas

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It had astonishing graphics and hype, but that was it
Players were disappointed
We were expecting another genre defining game, but got a tech demo for Carmack's new graphics technology
I mean Doom and Quake revolutionized FPS when they released, Doom 3 got a single expansion pack and was then forgotten
Just look at the mod communities for each game and judge for yourself

I thought those were invincible, then I played resurrection of evil.

Unfortunately Eternal's "lore" is a Talmud jerking off in your face
Note that everyone involved with the original Doom was an atheist except for Sandy and at one point they actually asked him "is this offensive to Christianity?" and he was like "Nah this is basically what Jesus did during the Harrowing and is gonna do again in Revelation"

all these doom3 chads playing in 4k

doom 3 is already beloved here and sharty also likes it, retard

Yes the contrarian board holds a contrarian opinion.

seriously, Ressurection of Evil marine looks like a serial killer wtf

Losing one is like losing your beloved dog

Doom 3 may have been universally praised by critics, but there were loads of players that didn't like it.
Criticisms I heard

It has no water

It's all tight corridors

It's too dark

The shotgun sucks

There's no vehicles

Why can't you use a flashlight and weapon at the same time?

This is too different from Doom 1 and 2

The criticism of the engine was so constant, that modders made this
youtube.com/watch?v=sWbNJAnwazU

Yeah but this is stupid and makes the game bad, designed bad.

People be like yeah my favorite part of doom 1 was where I couldn't see shit in a few rooms.

But did it have shadows, lol?

This. The game is hard. That makes sense being Doom, but people hate that shit

Why can't you use a flashlight and weapon at the same time?

It tickles me that when this was added in for BFG everyone screamed it ruined the game and was just pandering to casuals.

Of course, lil zoomie. HL2 had outstanding graphics at the time

That's 100% true though, they patched out a mechanic the fucking game was designed and balanced around

Also a complaint I hear less often about BFG that's equally true is that you don't fucking need the flashlight anymore because they increased the ingame lighting by 500%, almost every area is clearly visible now

I thought BFG edition was fine. Does fumbling with a flashlight in the dark not being able to shoot really that fun or is everyone stroking their ego they did it the hard way?

you'd probably get like 100fps on a 1050 Ti running doom 3 at 4k

I played this game late at night in coop with some random mexican bro, we scared ourselves shitless and had a blast playing it and then we never spoke again

but I still (vaguely) remember him

doesnt change the fact that your wife is a golddigger.

Good job exposing yourself, retarded newfag.
No, HL2 didn't have dynamic shadows.
They were added only after release of Episode 2.
It's something retarded newshits like you don't know because you played the game long after it was released.

I finished it yesterday (and I made a thread that barely got replies). What I have to say is that overall, Doom 3 is like a comedian that doesn't know how to end a joke. I liked what they tried to do with the lantern and darkness, but the cheap jumpscares that costs you health gets really old and annoying, they never stop even near the end of the game.
Also, the game felt as if it was "Doom™: The Hollywood Movie". Too much emphasis on lore, enemy designs that looks insipid as hell (most monsters having the same color pallete, the cacodemon looked like a flying flea to me), and minor references to previous games so you don't forget this is a Doom™ game.
It was the first Doom game I played when I was a kid, and I really understand the disdain for this game.

A good compromise would've been to use the flashlight with the pistol only

Someone must have a collection of old game magazines, the hype for Doom 3 was crazy
Of course it looked good in screenshots

Yeah I love how Doom 2016 is, in a way, a proper continuation of Doom 3, from design evolution to the overall vibe of it. It's not a horror game like Doom 3 per se, but it feels like a post-demon invasion with the Doom guy arriving hours after everyone else is dead, only this time the story is told in a more action-packed kind of way.

because they increased the ingame lighting by 500%

They had to do that as people weren't playing on crts anymore., but crappy lcd screens.

Also, the game felt as if it was "Doom™: The Hollywood Movie". Too much emphasis on lore, enemy designs that looks insipid as hell (most monsters having the same color pallete, the cacodemon looked like a flying flea to me), and minor references to previous games so you don't forget this is a Doom™ game.

boy you must LOVE the nuDoom games

this is what they turned doom into lmaoooo

He's Pete Hines

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I played 2016 and Eternal, and I hated that shit too. Its insulting they introduce you to the keycards, only to use it one or two times and that's it.

DOOM3 thread appears

ITS DA TRUE DOOM 2016 AND ETERNAL ARE ZOOMSHIT

only posts screens of dark rooms with cool lighting (the only thing DOOM3 has going for it)

never post gameplay (3 imps come out of a closet and you shoot with a retarded shotgun)

never post the dogshit enemy designs, only the Hellknight (the only good one)

never post the dogshit level design

never mention the dogshit bossfights

seethe every day about the fact that DOOM didnt stay as a average horror shooter who got outshined the moment FEAR and DEADSPACE released

DOOM3 will never be a real DOOM game

become FUCKING INVINCIBLE in RoE

maledict lmaos in your path

BETRUGERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

At first I thought Betruger as kinda lame because he was such an over the top muahaha style villain but boy I love him now after Olivia Pearce in 2016, what a gay and lame bitch

Sure do. This is from PC Powerplay an aussie magazine

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There had been so many WADs with monster closets by the time Doom 3 came along, it could be said that monster closets were a well established and generally accepted part of Doom gameplay.

first black guy you see is leaving the toilet

he leaves this behind

Fucker didn't even try to flush.

goddamn how many courics is that whopper?

iirc that is the only turd in the entire game

immersive storytelling

nuDoom could never

If you kill the dude in the test chamber AFTER saving him he drops his pda which includes this message. Even on mars there is no escape.

You and the rest of the world just weren't ready for Daikatana

is it just me or does anyone else see that cover as a doomguy bleeding from his face until they remember what it is

super turbo turkey puncher, of course.

No but there is a very similar scene to what you describe in the game.

i'd love to see a version of doom 3 with HDR on an oled - I bet the hell sequences would really pop with the bright lava and deep reds/oranges 10 or 12bit colour can offer.

luv me FPS
luv me RPG's
'ate the nudooms (not racist just don't like em)

simple as

So is Sergeant Kelly in on the whole demon thing from the beginning or is he just a poor sod slowly corrupted? The game is very straightforward with its story, but for some reason his particular story differs with its ambiguity.

The couple moments you talk to him at the beginning he seems normal, I guess he just got corrupted halfway through the game.

I like to think he was corrupted after he got to delta labs.

There is one radio transmission from him that cuts off and it's the last one where he sounds normal before he starts sounding obviously evil instead
That said it's still decently subtle because he complains about static and that's it when he should really go "Oh hi Dr. Betruger, didn't see you there, what brings you to this area of the ba- OH MY GOD HE'S SAWING MY LEGS OFF AND REPLACING THEM WITH DEMON TANK TREADS OHHH IT HURTS SO MUCH I SHOULD HAVE USED THE PLASMA RIFLE TO STOP HIM, THE ONE I LEFT IN A LOCKER WITH THE STORAGE CODE 0432"

For me it is 0508

OH MY GOD HE'S SAWING MY LEGS OFF AND REPLACING THEM WITH DEMON TANK TREADS OHHH IT HURTS SO MUCH I SHOULD HAVE USED THE PLASMA RIFLE TO STOP HIM, THE ONE I LEFT IN A LOCKER WITH THE STORAGE CODE 0432

Oh hi Dr. Betruger, didn't see you there, what brings you to this area of the ba- OH MY GOD HE'S SAWING MY LEGS OFF AND REPLACING THEM WITH DEMON TANK TREADS OHHH IT HURTS SO MUCH I SHOULD HAVE USED THE PLASMA RIFLE TO STOP HIM, THE ONE I LEFT IN A LOCKER WITH THE STORAGE CODE 0432

You didn't have to describe ALL the audio logs in the game THIS accurately

The joke here is actually that none of the audio logs in the game are like this and nicely shows who hasn't played the game

Still the best Doom

no
this is the best ( official ) Doom game

youtu.be/gnwUasopups

The game is very straightforward with its story

The game doesn't tell you SHIT about its story. Why did Betruger side with Hell? Was he corrupted? Did he desire power? Knowledge? To get back at his stupid superiors? To prove himself? Did he just realize his surname means "Betrayer" in Norwegian and rolled with it?

OH MY GOD HE'S SAWING MY LEGS OFF AND REPLACING THEM WITH DEMON TANK TREADS OHHH IT HURTS SO MUCH I SHOULD HAVE USED THE PLASMA RIFLE TO STOP HIM, THE ONE I LEFT IN A LOCKER WITH THE STORAGE CODE 0432"

Would've been unironically superior to what we have in the game.

youtube.com/watch?v=E99ROAlO394

none of the audio logs in the game are like this

Well, the part about locker codes seems pretty similar to me

his surname means "Betrayer" in Norwegian and rolled with it?

This has to fucking be it

I'm sure there's a 3 hour video essay on the subject somewhere on youtube, seems more up your speed

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The story is science run amok with demons n' shiet.

nah most of the mails(codes barely come with the audio logs) with those codes are like

Key code for the recently delivered cabinets in the lab sector is 408, Facility management

Good and honest DOOM fans won
DOOM 3 haters lost

No one hated Doom 3. Even washed up ecelebs like civvie like it.

Doom 3 is a phenomenal horror game but an absolutely shit Doom game. When exploring the levels of a Doom game is more fun than actually playing thru them, you know you've fucked up.

No one hated Doom 3

Revisionism. It was at release. It was more divisive than Eternal.

it wasn't and you are a fraudulent homosexual of brown complexion

Lies
Truth. Especially the latter part

I played it on release, zoomer.

Everyone hated the System Shock 2 wannabee, and the darkness and having to switch to the flashlight.
Just becuase your ecelebs are telling you it's good 20 years later it doens0t mean people liked it.
Grow your own fucking opinion, dumb zoomer.

To add to my previous post I engaged in frequent sexual relations with your mother 9 months before you were born

Doom 3's Hell might really be my favorite version of Hell in a Doom game, or maybe any game ever. It's complete and totally desolate.

It was back before you were born

user scores from zoomers who played it 20 years later

This image means nothing
Even if you were defending Doom 3

Mod?

Everyone hated

I didn't. See, you're already wrong

implying doom 64 was bad

Explain yourself.

bad game is LE GOOD ackshually

incredibly stale bait, and yet somehow, >358 replies

enter any room

a closet opens and three imps jump out

It is quintessentially doom. You won't find that garbage in Quake.

Brutal Doom has been a disaster for the entire IP

blatantly 2D wall pipes and details in a 2011 AAA FPS, not even bump mapped to create an illusion of depth

At least the open areas looked good, I guess.

There's a whole genration of zoomers who get their opnion from ecelebs.

If they say Doom 3 is good, it is, never mind them being babies when it was released.

console fps

That's megatextures for you.

The further away you get from anything in rage the better it looks.

three enemies max on the screen at any given moment

plasitc and ugly enemy models

weapons with 2 frames

It wasn't a good game

So what's with all the reviews from the rarly 00s giving it 8-9/10 scores

no, seriously, you could've told me that's some gritty megawad for GZDoom and I would believed it 100%

All ecelebs say Doom 3 was bad though

combines HL2 gravity gun with FEARS slowmo gameplay

My only gripe is that its all stuck in the expansion. What I would give for The Artifact to be ported over to the main game

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BFG Edition won't launch on Steam for me. I've tried every launch option I could find in Google. I've played the original + resurrection of evil but Ive never tried BFG. Oh well thanks Jews .

>three enemies max on the screen at any given moment

Not a big D64 fan, but that's blatantly untrue, maybe early, but in the later Hell levels you get properly big encounters.

no source

Yeah didn't think you could prove they exist either.

NTA and there's already a post in this thread with exactly that, homo

There's literally mention of Civvie liking it as an argument of it being good in this very thread, just some posts above.

one fat retard liking Doom 3 means all ecelebs like it

Sure

Metacritic of 80 something means just average.
The public score is far more telling.

muh ecelebs

Public zoomer executions when

That's what "all" means, you retard.
If one likes it, then it's not all.

Choose your words better next time idiot.

I didn't like you in 2005 ,I don't like you now, F.E.A.R shits all over you.

Metacritic of 80 something means just average.

We're talking about how it was recieved on release. Not TWENTY fucking years later by salty zoomers

Why are nuDoomers so mad about their games being gay? Nothing wrong with being gay, it's the current year

The double shotgun in the base game would've been nice too.

Nothing wrong with being gay

Yuck
Everything is wrong with being a faggot

Everyone rightfully shat on this game for being a boring piece of shit and they were right. You are trans.

And on release it had an already average scores for such a big name.

It was a big name and had one of the ebst grafix at the time, and it got inflated scores for that. Still couldn't crack 90 metacritic.

User scores were far far worse.
Doom 3 was such a joke they meme'd the "ducktape" flashlight in the BFG edition dude.

That is one of the most common mods out there. It also blows game balance in half because it is so stupidly powerful and the base game encounters were never designed with such awesome firepower in mind.

User scores were far far worse

source: it was revealed to me in a dream

they meme'd the "ducktape" flashlight

So because of this single thing the whole game is bad by your logic, right?

We listened to your complaints and decided Eternal wasn't nearly reddit enough so we've turned that shit up 200%, bone apple tea"

It's the exact opposite of Eternal in a lot of ways.

That’s not Kino 64 tho

Imagine walking around in circles in a game where levels are basically a straight line.

this, most of the people I knew didn't even buy it, it was mostly relegated as console plebs trash

Nice stretched texture bro. It actually makes me feel a little bit ill just looking at it.

Seems we owe an apology - they were right and positive reviews are fake.

Doom 3

It’s Doom Cubed, retard

I want people who want to go to Mars to play Doom 3.
Mars fucking sucks.

Yeah, what sort of doom game ships without a double barrel shotgun?!

the level design is a pure maze

Doom haters can't make up their minds it seems

2019

Wisdom from the ancients

door codes

Is that even a thing in Doom 3? I don't remember

There are one or two doors that require a code but they aren't on the critical path iirc.

locker codes yes, I definitely remember a door code somewhere too

It was a veey successful game. The people bitching about it were the minority. You werent born yet so stop pretending to know what your talking about zoom zoom

If there's a Doom game that warrants ray tracing it's this

I don't even understand the premise. So the guy isn't the Doom Slayer, he's just a regular soldier.
So a regular soldier can take on a demon army just like the Doom Slayer? Seems fucking gay to me.

I remember a mod saying what if there's duct tape in 2145 Mars so you can shoot while having the flashlight instead of picking one

I know about lockers obviously, I just don't remember any story related doors with code locks

one or two doors that require a code

And the dude gave the game a 1 because of that? Bold

doom 3 was absolute dogshit, on par with the doom movie

Only good Doom game after Doom 2

Eternal.

Doom 3 is the worst one next to Doom 1, wtf are you on about. Doom 3 doesn't even feel like a Doom game, it feels like one of those old slow horror games

He was promised demon head. Be got more than he bargined for.

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something about Eternal just made me go "Ah FUCK this" and drop it before the end

You weren't skillful enough. That's fine but The Fag Ages is a course correction from Eternal, not doubling down. That's why the game sucks.

DOOM 3

nothing new or original, decided to jump on the HL2 train of making a immersive sim and the rising survival horror craze of the time, its quite literally generic

DOOM 2016

Broke the mold by being a actual good vertical shooter with unlimited weapons, healthpacks and speed in 2016 when the market was still dominated by generic FPS games and nobody wanted to do a classic style shooter

this pisses DOOM3 fags off the most
DOOM3 as a concept is a sellout while DOOM 2016 actually did something different from the rest

if you don't like eating shit you just aren't skilled enough to eat shit

metacritic user reviews

Holy fuck giving thirdies internet access was mankinds worst(but funniest) mistake

seething doom 3 fanboy

You mean the main mod that existed literally 24 hours after the game launched because it was such an obvious flaw?

fpbp

I can only like one thing even if their part of the same series

Based ‘4 ‘yer ‘n h ‘ttie

There really isn't any reason to dislike Eternal besides you don't like FPS and it's too hard for you.
Every single complaint is retarded, at best.

OH ITS TOO COLORFUL

STFU

WEAPON SWITCH BOO

STFU you can play the entire game just SSG'ing everything

PLATFORMING BOO

How is this a serious complaint? If you can't do basic ass platforming then just kill yourself my nigga

MARAUDER HARD

Just kill him. Can't? Skill issue.

Correct. In Quake you enter any room and the enemies just teleport in because slipgates

basef

imagine defending adhd weapon switching (btw you cant solo the game with SSG, you quite literally dont have the ammo for it) and platforming, kys faggot

/thread

its the only good doom game

Everything besides actual humans looked amazing foe its time. Humans were kinda off looking but fine if they didnt have hair.

Doom 3 hell

KINO

nu-Doom hell

cheeto dust covered wasteland with rivers of syrup might as well be Mars

What's the problem with weapon switch? Your fingers not fast enough? Too many things to think about? Can't remember which button is each weapon?
I really don't get it. It made the game so much more fun.

Platforming

Did you get stuck? Those shits were so easy I can't fathom someone bitching about it.

The bruiser was kinda cool but certainly didn't live up to the concept art.

Ya I was dissapointed despite how neat it was in game.

im sorry but eternal's gameplay is c ap

Doom 3 was actually an unsuccessful attempt to make a System Shock 3

Did you mean to post Doom 64 but misclicked?

One thing is for certain. Doom 3 is the most talked Doom game ever.

Anon Babble only talks about bad games so that tracks.

megatextures™ take 3 seconds to load in your path

Just need to wait 10 years for SSD's to be affordable for mere mortals to fix the loading performance. Even better it does have a cuda hardware accelerated option that doesn't work anymore! yay!

the urinals also automatically flush from motion, cool detail

can you load base maps with the console

truly nothing is as good as not being able to see fucking anything

Weren't you cumming and pissing yourself in ecstasy when amnesia and slender man were popular?

...why did he say that

Fuck off u lying rat!

My only gripe is that its all stuck in the expansion. What I would give for The Artifact to be ported over to the main game

Ain't there mods to add them in the main game?

the devil is REALLLL
i know....
i BUILT his cage.............

You're still upset that he made you his bitch

The shotgun in doom 3 is so stupidly OP.

he made you his bitch

I agreed to that voluntarily. After all, Romero is a demigod
Daikatana sucks massive balls, but that doesn't mean anything

posts art, not even an actual ingame screenshot

NTA and I feel like they took inspiration from Doom 3

That's not art, that's in-game geometry, probably posed in id Studio or something.