Ahahaha...there's no way video game studios would ever hire somebody who doesn't like playing video games to help make them...right?
Ahahaha...
Bros... we had no idea how good we had it back when Hamburger Helper was still a meme.
That's a ma'am
it was good and correct to meme on her for saying these things
but supposedly people started harassing her directly and she left the industry
Awwww poor cancer. Boo hoo hoo.
Holy based, maybe we should harass more
Was DA2 the true start of this endless decline?
She's a story writer, whether she likes playing them herself is irrelevant.
Was Hamburger Helper patient zero for what would eventually become a common practice in the industry?
Yet another failed writer who gets accepted into videogame studios for some reason
You don't need to love playing video games to write well.
Harlan Ellison didn't play video games. Amy Hennig didn't play video games.
Hepler's issue isn't that she hates video games, it's that she's a self-indulgent hack who writes glorified fanfiction
Wasn't she someone's girlfriend or something and that's how she got in?
you press the buttons, anon
but supposedly people started harassing her directly and she left the industry
not good enough. i want her dead.
the only problem here is the male enablers who hired her remained
The DA2 and ME3 stuff seems so quaint in comparison to now
The DA2 and ME3 stuff seems so quaint in comparison to now
As somebody who was a teenager in the early 2010s, I have to agree that I too miss the days when Dragon Age II being so at odds with Origins or Mass Effect 3's still to this day egregiously awful ending was as bad as it got with the western gaming industry's corporate bullshit to say nothing of DLC and how many companies not just EA abused that to lock already made content behind a paywall. Even that is small potatoes now compared to lootboxes, ESG/DEI checklists, or brand new games now costing 80 dollars on average just for the "standard" edition. It's not that I look back on the early 2010s with rose tinted glasses, I don't, but in hindsight, its weird to think Bioware's initial fall from grace with DAII and ME3 was merely a prelude to how much worse they and other western game studios would become throughout the rest of the 2010s to now in the mid 2020s.
im sure there was others but yeah, i feel like hamburger was the one that started it all.
i almost forgot about that shit until now. funny stuff
Yesterday we had a zoomer make a thread trying to claim her writing was "good"
It was the saddest thing I have ever witnessed on this board
I weep for future generations who have known nothing but rancid dogshit and are nostalgic for it
For sure. There were things here and there that were super questionable but like you said, it's a prelude. Like Chobot getting into ME3 when it was blatantly a ploy with IGN. But now shit like that is considered nothing.
Like the works of Rowling
Lol. Lmao. Its insane how they go from worship to hatred just for thinking the wrong way about one fucking thing. And of all the things its about mentally people who cause physical damage to themselves for sexual pleasure. How far gone these people are
Why the fuck do you keep making threads about drama from like 12+ years ago? It's not like the sentiment that shit writers who don't play games should not be writing games has changed.
Fern sex
Didn't she only write for DAO and DA2? And those didn't have any really bad parts, unlike say Veilguard, or the trans/gay shit in DAI.
Honestly, I don't know why everyone hated her so much, my guess it's because she was obese and unattractive and made some controversial statements. But her heart was in the right place and her writing was solid?
Like, I don't care if someone on the staff plays vidya or not, it doesn't matter to me. E.g. most of the voice actors in any game don't play vidya at all.
Fuck are you on about you dumb twat. This should be in the history books as a harbinger of the death of the Western video game industry when cunts like her starting being promoted into senior positions.
You're both retarded and have fallen for extremely weak and stupid propaganda
Again: Amy Hennig did not play games and she wrote fucking Legacy of Kain
You're just a moron being used by
no counterargument
Good job, I can't even tell what your point is as neither user has indicated anything they "fell for." They just acknowledged that it was bad then and worse now. Are you disagreeing that it's worse now? Make a fucking point.
You're just a moron being used by
Used by what? Did you die halfway through your post?
Again: Amy Hennig did not play games and she wrote fucking Legacy of Kain
The conversation isn't about Amy Hennig you retarded faggot.
Girls that don't play video games shouldn't write for them! That happening KILLED VIDEO GAMES!
Amy Hennig is a valid counterexample you twat.
Playing games has fuck-all to do with being a good writer.
You replied to and
who said nothing of Hepler or Hennig. You seem to be replying to random people just to sperg out. Are you a bot malfunctioning or are you retarded? Delete your posts.
kill yourself fat ugly dyke, no one wants you around
The implication is that harassment works
OK but but I unironically have a huge fetish for fat greasy fujos.
say something stupid to thousands of people
many take offense
some take great offense
This is normal. People are too used to social media hugboxes and forget that they are throwing stones into an endless throng of people hoping they're taken well.
I can't follow threads even with inline links
Amazing
Go play soul reaver remastered and wait to be old enough to post here
Good
you will never ever ever ever ever ever EVER be a woman
retarded
Anon, as somebody who was around for the DAII/ME3 days, believe me when I say both games recieved quite a bit of meme'ing from the gaming community for how dumbed down both the gameplay and even the writing were compared to the first two Mass Effect games and DA:O. Having a face we could put the decline in quality assurance onto was all it took for memes like "Hamburger Helper" to catch on in early 2010s internet. And this was BEFORE stuff like DEI and hiring people for immutable traits like race, gender, and sexual orientation were a thing, so by comparision, hiring a woman who freely admitted she hated playing video games despite working for a video game company as a writer is comparatively a drop in the bucket against somebody who actively despises the core audience who buy and enjoy playing video games and makes that fact blatantly known on their personal Twitter account. Or in the case of pic related, saw making the next Dragon Age game as more of a platform for espousing their gender/sexuality politics than making a Dragon Age game fans of the previous three would actually want to play after so many years since Inquisition's DLC seemingly set up Solas as being the next big bad in the setting.
like the works of Rowling
I wonder how much that hack regrets declaring this
Amy Worked in the fucking industry making sprites
people started harassing her directly and she left the industry
good, we should've done more of that instead of having troll remorse which led to more fags like her to infest gaming that it became unrecognizable.
She isn't that bad compared to the crap we get these days.
kill yourself namefaggot
she
The infection was obviously already ingrained in the industry if she was a senior writer.
Good
You're just proving my point (also I'm fucking 36, I was around for this shit)
DA2 and ME2/3 were shit because of the same EA bullshit that killed every studio they ever swallowed. Their entire business strategy was buying out studios with good reputations, cheaping out as hard as possible to boost margins, and then riding that reputation into the ground.
Hepler was a dogshit writer with a big mouth but the idea that women and non-gamers writing for games is a problem is fucking stupid. Being a good writer and understanding cinematic language has fucking nothing to do with playing video games and it is consistently true that novelists and screenwriters make the best game writers.
If you genuinely blame anyone that isn't one of the major publisher executives for this shit you're just a useful idiot being herded into culture war trash.
As someone that was ACTUALLY here and not just posturing I watched the video the memes are from. Every "lead" for DA2 was under 25 because EA fired or pushed out anyone with a salary or a backbone.
So in a sense you're right, the rot (being publisher monopolies snapping up developers in hostile takeovers) was there.
It just isn't what you think it is.
Show tits, hole.
there's no way video game studios would ever hire somebody who doesn't like playing video games to help make them...right?
I too was there. Bioware was always the progressive type at this point and at the forefront for this gay shit. It wasn't ingrained, but it certainly was worse than we realised back then because they were more hush hush about it.
The slippery slope was real
she's the exact same kind of freak putting this trash in modern games, a fat, sheltered, jewish hambeast leftist
nostalgia i miss pre 2012 Anon Babble
Don't @ me if you're not going to read or respond to my post you fucking bot
Nah nigger, I was writing off the industry with DA2 and it's stinky pirate whore, socially awkward stained panties elf, powerbottom edgelord elf, and nipple twisting homosexual. I still remember how everybody wanted to fuck your sister because she was the best looking female in the game
sit down and be humble
@710934375
saar do not redeem
Why modern games suck?
DEI kills
I know what you're implying by your post ,you fucking faggot, and you're wrong. People like hambeast were infact in the industry. It wasn't big evil corp doing all of it. It was filth hiring their own and sitting quietly untill they outnumbered the normal people who either got pushed out of moved on.
Rather, microsoft and sony subsidized consoles so much they killed all other modes of gaming by making sure that devs didn't have full access to the markets by not putting slop on consoles. This meant all the competent programmers got a real job instead of designing for consoles. All the talent left because of the corporate takeover by microsoft/sony yesmen and this void was filled with men hating feminists who became aware of consoles because of the xbox 360 and ps3. This is why Halo was the first to die because it was the biggest name in console gaming and had the biggest target on its back by these talentless women
Don't @ me
We use "replies" here, xir.
Cool, so how did these femoids infiltrate PC game dev oriented companies too?
PC game dev oriented companies
there's no such thing and hasn't been for 20 years
infiltrate
The same types would have had to already have been there, perhaps say in the hiring/HR department? Nah too outlandish to believe.
he's right you know, fuck EA
I could tell you for the fourth time that a few companies bought every single developer and made working for them so miserable and low-paying that no one with talent would ever work in game dev of any kind
But you don't really care
You just want to be mad at women and gay people
Because that's easier and more fun than understand how monopolies arise from poorly regulated capitalism and fiduciary duty to investors.
There was around that era you spoke of.
DING DONG BANNU
Implying
I didn't imply shit, I said it explicitly
Maybe don't criticize writing when you don't know fucking English
Wanting 20 year old damaged goods
Do Heteros really?
You sound like a woman who is part of the industry. No personal responsibility, always someone elses fault.
Nah. Diablo 2 came out in 2000, Half life 2 2004. Orange box 2007. Diablo 3 2012 and was ported to console 2013. you're talking about a period where PC gaming was already dying because of xbox and ps2
Hurr no english
Everytime with you kikes when you have no argument. You can be as coy as you want, but your intentions are always obvious as fuck. Kill yourself
No, Bioware was. Hepler was just a symptom.
Only use for a namefag hole
do stupid thing
get shat on for it
Oh no, the consequences of your own actions!
People really need to get more comfortable with failure. You WILL not always win. In fact, you rarely will. This culture of being unable to just admit, "You know what? We made a bad calculation." is disastrous and fatherless.
And keep in mind, PC gaming was dying because kids were getting scammed into buying the actually unplayable GTA 3 because it had prostitutes and violence
You sound like a woman who is part of the industry. No personal responsibility, always someone elses fault.
This is literally how they "function" you jackwagon. This is exactly how Microshit, Sony and any other company "too big to fail" continue to be propped into existence. Success? Great, that's money. Failure? Great, that's other peoples money. They just unleash their whinging bitch accountants and DEI economists cope to never face responsibility. In fact it is YOU who is irresponsible, where are YOUR diversity inclusive games?
holy zoomer. 2004 onward is when pc gayming was saved. it was only dying in the 90s and early 2000s
Yeah pc gaming was saved by all those pc games like..... and .....
world of warcraft
get real buddy
I don't give two fucks about big daddy corporation as long as it delivers what I want. That means no gay shit, sorry tranny. It's that simple.
90s
dying
PC gaming was at its literal peak from 1997 to 2002.
I don't give two fucks about big daddy corporation as long as it delivers what I want.
I guess you want more mullato morons and more chefs at Bethesda then.
That means no gay shit
The literally turn devs into bug chasers, the software and hardware variety. The actual gamemaking is done by low income poos.
peak? Do you even know what that word means?
PC gaming was completely irrelevant and ignored by everyone. If anything PC gaming is peaking right now.
pc gaming is peaking right now
because if it isn't then consoles really did kill the industry
oh yeah? what's the hottest game on pc right now? all 10+ year old games
oh yeah? what's the hottest game on pc right now?
3rd party (formerly 1st) console games.
Do you? That's when the best games came out.
Why would I want more shit like chefs? You know who thought that was a good idea? The gay faggots that currently work at Bethesda. So once again, get rid of the gay shit.
Bug shit is bad too. Both of these things are bad. You have it in your mind that I NEED to buy somthing from these fucking companies doing this stupid shit when I dont? Hence why AA and indie is very successful right now. They're giving people what they want. It's simple
No gay shit
No mutt shit
No bug shit
Guys...I would fuck hamburger helper.
Why would I want more shit like chefs?
So that they can keep feeding Todd so that one day he can become the size of Gabe.
You know who thought that was a good idea?
Bethesda, you know that really great game developer known for making functionally stable games. Oh and horse armor.
The gay faggots that currently work at Bethesda
Todd has been there quite a long time, way before Microsoft got their gay hands on it even. You're talking about a company in Maryland afterall.
You have it in your mind
My mind? No no, this is what they do my friend.
They're giving people what they want. It's simple
No gay shit
No mutt shit
No bug shit
You're probably going to be very disappointed when you hear "what it is" gamers really want.
She's right, combat is the worst part of wrpgs
Um ackshually
No, I'm not falling for this gaslighting bullshit. I'm a "gamer", I know what I want and I'll buy accordingly. I don't care what some faggot consultant company thinks what I want.
No, I'm not falling for this gaslighting bullshit.
How many concords will it take for you to understand? How many more billion+ dollar devs must Sony throw into a dumpster fire before you realize they don't care what *you specifically* want?
I'm a "gamer", I know what I want and I'll buy accordingly
I don't care what some faggot consultant company thinks what I want.
Even Nintendo knows to be an entertainment company. Their OG CEO never played a fucking videogame in his life, but he sure as shit knew what the west liked seeing in videogames and it had nothing to do with the actual games in question.
people started harassing her directly
Still don't believe it. In order to believe it you have to believe two conflicting things.
First, these people were smart enough to track down her kids and leave no evidence of who they were.
Second, that these people were dumb enough to think her kids could influence the direction of a game that's already shipped.
Her story presents a contradiction, the enemy is both aimless and hypercompetent.
You're probably going to be very disappointed when you hear "what it is" gamers really want.
Who are you referring to? The mythical modern audience, or people who want good games?
Who are you referring to? The mythical modern audience, or people who want good games?
Yes.
This is just schizo babble at this point. Sony can keep making concords. I'll keep not buying them, cause I don't have to. We're not losing anything valuable from them throwing out buyable companies either.There are thousands of games out there for me play without any gay shit involved.
You can go on about "fuck the system" shit all you want. But it's fucking video games dude. Apply yourself to somthing better if you're going to go against somthing.
Reddit answer
Good talk, psued
This might actually be one instance where I’m ok with someone being harassed
sucking up Rowling
It's hilarious that to be a woke person, you have to be constantly changing your views and dismissing everything you said a year ago because the current thing is to hate this personality, or to support this retarded new shit.
There's tons of old books from leftists sucking up to Elon Musk, it's absolutely hilarious.
The problem isn't women writing the games it's this trend of hiring people of either gender to work on vidya that don't like or play vidya you illiterate dipshit
The problem is bigger than that. The problem is that (mass) culture has become closed and overly self-referential. It doesn't attempt to relate to the real world, only other fictions (including political fictions).
Reddit answer
The market is reddit. This is the cost of all these too big to fail entertainment companies expanding the audience to normie casuals. Reddit games for Reddit people. It's like any other company really, not just entertainment.
This is just schizo babble at this point. Sony can keep making concords
That's the fucking joke you retard. They can just keep making shit games and you can keep making shitposts about them. Nothing changes.
I'll keep not buying them, cause I don't have to.
Your tax dollars will buy them via DEI loans and grants. If they cared about your money they wouldn't keep making dogshit.
We're not losing anything valuable from them throwing out buyable companies either.
Other than the company that originally made actual good games
There are thousands of games out there for me play without any gay shit involved.
Which is why they're also extending their efforts to expurgate and censor those with subscription plans. If you have physicals then whatever enjoy.
You can go on about "fuck the system" shit all you want. But it's fucking video games dude. Apply yourself to something better if you're going to go against something.
You're just reiterating the points I made , only giving more reason why it's never going to change. Yeah "apply yourself to something better", yeah okay sure but will the faggots give me warning before subverting that hobby too?
I'll be fair to Helper that her writing in Origins was solid but her contributions in DA2 sucked.
Ander's personality shift from bro in Awakening to gay terrorist in DA2 still pisses me off.
If only that was true with all burgers that came after. Not a few month after that shitfest, a burger manage to gain control of another IP and destroy it.
Blackpill shit
This is fucking boring
I don't give a fuck. Noone's getting a pass because of what they did (or rather couldn't yet get away with) 15-30 years ago.
It's a big black pill to swallow I know. Companies that had absolutely no stake or understanding of videogames before now run the videogame market. They have since the 80's. Gay baby publishers who pretend books are videogames to create expurgated editions to.
You have one that used to be a powerhouse for electronics and music now losing billions on a games that don't break 6 figures.
You have another which more or less created the OS used for the PC market platform who didn't capitalize on it soon enough . Whose death list continues to grow with every developer they buy into limbo.
Then you have the universally always last place over engineered polystation maker, who self references themselves into popularity using fanfare and nostalgia now that they can't rely on the market they monopolized in the 80's. Who for some reason made a new console despite having no physical gimmicks different than a PC...whose gimmick is in fact a fucking mouse now, whose only "difference" from PC is addition anti-piracy measures that will fold in a year or two from launch.
Retard.