It was then, all hope lost, when an unlikely glimmer of hope broke through the grim skies

In other news Nvidia/AMD shills are crying and shitting their pants in abject terror at the thought of affordable GPUs and an end to their incestuous monopoly.

china saves gaming

Yeah right

Anon, that company is 4 fucking years old. That card is their baby steps. It's insane it exists at all.

This does have benefits though-
If the chips knowingly won't ever be sold in the west, then there is no reason to bother complying with western IP/copyright laws.

Could be very interesting, if we could ever get one.

You don't seem to understand, EUVL technology for circuits that dense is gatekept by one company in the planet. If the Chinese can do it domestically, prices will collapse, as they should

Going by the MTT S80 I doubt, but I will welcome cheap GPUs once they get it right.

Anon, that company is 4 fucking years old. That card is their baby steps. It's insane it exists at all.

You understand that the Chinese just steal everything, right? They're not actually developing anything internally except what they weren't able to yoink from someone else.

No, since XTAL is literally just stolen ASML tech, nothing made with their machines will ever be allowed to be sold in the west. It's injunctions all the way down.

Genuine case of American cope. Take photovoltaics as a counterexample.
Of course they leapfrog technology steps with espionage, but blame your corporation for agreeing to technology sharing to open factories in China since the profits were too lucrative.

Are they going to sell them with cheap connectors that burn out your card?

I'll order one from aliexpress anyway, who cares

I'll never buy a Chinese GPU but I hope this destabilizes the market

Its all chink shit anyway

A 4060 is a basic black bitch card, tho

Chink news

literally synonym with fake news

CCP trying to get USD investments like so many times before.
there is 0% independent news and 0% verification of anything coming out of china. how many news stories from the last 5 years have turned out to be true concerning any chinese inventions? if it's not stolen tech it's none of them

That’s even better - it means the card is solid and already tested. Can’t wait for the prices to drop. Hold tight my 2060, only a year or two more…

Imagine installing Chinese spyware drivers to use it.

THOSE ARE AMERICAN CHIPS! ALL THE CHIPS BELONG TO US!

it doesn't exist

It'll be interesting if AliExpress/Temu/etc would sell them, as umc/smic 7nm is currently under injunction in US anyway.
Might just be removed from western stores/not shipped to western addresses. Hopefully not though.

Drivers will very likely be dogshit, but China makes some really nice audio hardware, both the chips and the PCBs (though the best have eu-made caps) so I'm fairly excited about the whole thing.

god i hope they start shitting out cheap graphic cards with 100's of gigabytes of vram

BLIMEY, YOU'LL NEVER GET MA CHIPS AN'FISH"

Who cares how they get it done, if the Chinese saves us from Nvidia I'll welcome it

The temu GPU is online

I don't give shit, GPU hebrews deserve to be plagiarized and fleeced for all they're worth

It might be gatekept as of this year (I don't know), but it wasn't gatekept for decades. ASML were just the only company that developed the tech enough to reliably produce these tiny lil chippies.
Every other company was free to compete with them, they just couldn't do it profitably.

Huawei was entirely stolen from Apple espionage you dumb chicom. Everyone in the west knows China can't develop anything on its own anymore even your initial factories were copied straight from ours. Stop trying so hard to fit in bugman.

I'm literally jacking off to deepseek v3 running pokemon impregnation roleplay at 5 cents per million tokens right now?

Unless you're buying highend Gigabyte (nv or AMD), Sapphire or PNY it's made in China anyway.
PNY is the only one made in USA.

They won't though. They will always be trailing behind because they have to steal the tech, then reverse engineer it, then get their substandard engineers to actually find a way to make it.

china

Its fake

They're assembled in China. The important stuff is made in Better China

I'll believe it when I'll see the finished product, chinks supposedly release revolutionary tech like every other week but then you never hear about it ever again

It's gonna take them a long time to catch up but the less we become dependent on TSMC for low nm fabs then the better for consumer electronics.

It'll be interesting if AliExpress/Temu/etc would sell them, as umc/smic 7nm is currently under injunction in US anyway.

Good thing I'm not American then, they got out of the chinkshit buying spaces due to tariffs, so they couldn't have bought it anyway. Hoping they keep up the beligerent attitude so we can get some better EU-Chinese trade deals in the future.

but China makes some really nice audio hardware, both the chips and the PCBs

Any vendors/brands? I've only bought some IEMs and they were decent, and I have a good DAC but no headphones and I was looking to buy some.

I'll believe it when I see it.

China recently got humiliated after Huawei tried to shittalk Mercedes.
I really don’t know if China has what it takes. Literally whatever they make: electronic, tool, or vehicle, it feels like I’m holding onto a fucking toy.
Their technology never seems rigid like Japanese or American products.
Maybe they finally shifted their production doctrine to a more sleek and modern form. Hopefully the GPUs are at least competitive against Jewtel.

As opposed to...

takes the brown sauce

WOT NUW?

You should only trust western companies to produce quality shit in China like Logitech for example for computer accessories. You get a warranty for your shit if you buy it in the west so you won't lose money compared to Chinese products.

I've been watching headlines for years
Have literally any "China now has ______" stories ever happened?

What happened to China's fusion power?
What happened to China's room temperature superconductor?
What happened to China's flying car?
What happened to China's cancer cure?

Hell, what the fuck happened like six months ago when China developed an AI that was 1000x as powerful and took 1/10th as much hardware and Nvidia went bankrupt overnight?

Anyone remember any of this shit? Fuck, remember when China made that CPU that was more powerful than any Ryzen or i7 and cost like 20 bucks? Where are those, does everybody have one now?

They just need to stop gatekeeping VRAM like Njudea does, RAM is not expensive and they keep bottlenecking cards with it.

China

Imagine the bugs. Radeon drivers would look like a harmless joke next to this.

be tacoman

ban giving china gpus

china can now litho 7nm

china can now design gpus for 7nm

my sides

came here to say
CHING CHONG CHING CHONG BING BONG

Everything is 10nm+++++
The whole "die shink" thing is over, and all we got now is redesigns of transistors and all that.
But that only makes your argument harder, because china had to copy the designs and manufacturing steps, two very patentable and easy to prove things in court.

what the fuck happened like six months ago when China developed an AI that was 1000x as powerful and took 1/10th as much hardware and Nvidia went bankrupt overnight?

It's a great model.
Stupid reporters thought it meant nV would be bankrupt.
Reality was you can do even more with stupid amounts of nv hardware AND deepseek.

All it did was bring the singularity closer.
The rest is probably all bullshit though.
But as some tit-for-tat - Where is muh truck portable fusion generator Lockheed!?

my jew master banned it from my mutt country so it doesn't exist

lol
lmao

nvidia

AMD

2 companies

monopoly

anon you are retarded

They could back in 2018.
SMIC had 7nm running not long after TSMC.
But TSMC got court injunctions against it in all western countries as it's stolen TSMC ip.
Won't stop China though and they can still sell to Russia/India/Brazil/etc just not US/EU

The superconductor one was funny because they actually had to release research data eventually and it was 200% bullshit

Maybe if you're turd world. You aren't gonna get these over the counter in NA.

What happened to China's fusion power?

They got the record for the longest stustained fusion experiment recently, but it was later taken by the French. The actual revolutionary tech being worked in China is a modern molten salt breeder reactor but it'll be years before it's finished. No comment from IAEA yet afaik.

What happened to China's room temperature superconductor?

That was Koreans, arr rook same. False resutls.

What happened to China's flying car?

Which one? Clickbait headlines with CGI videos about flying cars come every month, it's a stupid idea.

What happened to China's cancer cure?

The immune system hijack one? It's in human trials still, that process takes years. But you can buy experimental black market anti-hair loss serum in Europe now.

China developed an AI that was 1000x as powerful and took 1/10th as much hardware and Nvidia went bankrupt overnight?

Deepseek is a great model, just by making their research open source they're already ahead. It isn't cutting edge or boundary pushing outside of their new training technique, but it's incredibly cheap to run.
OAI's evaluation comes from military projects that they'd never use a Chinese model for anyway. It's a hilarious world where Facebook/Meta and Google are somehow the more moral ones in the AI industry.

tldr stop falling for pop science article clickbait

Imagine the asshurt satanic CIA pedophile that wrote this shit

We know, Chinamen are bonafide liars and pretenders.

it's all ogre 2010, china is making it's own semis, okay they actually aren't, they just smuggle shit

it's all ogre 2015, china is making it's own 22nm, okay, it's 750nm, okay, it's not actually making anything

it's all ogre 2020, china is making it's own server chips, gpus, everything, okay, actually it's just buying american and rebranding

it's all ogre 2025, china made deepseek, okay, they lied about making it on their own, they smuggled official nvidia cards, distilled a bigger model, didn't actually do jack shit

Should I stop nooticing?

I made the original edit of this pic back then in /lolg/ kek
Still can't believe this guy is popular and rich in China and has many fangirls dude isn't that far off from the edit

What happened to China's room temperature superconductor?

If you're talking about LK-99 you're completely fucking wrong, and if you're not talking about LK-99 then I don't know what you're talking about.

LK-99 was the room temperature superconductor claim that went internet viral, however it was a group of Koreans who made the claim, not Chinks. Chinese institutions were among the several institutions from different countries that tried and failed to replicate the claim made by Koreans.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LK-99

Insectoids shills didn't like his post, look all butthurt replies lmao.

I'm sure the drivers will work perfectly and be great, just like qualcomms windows arm drivers

Open weights not open source bro

PC has more DRM than Xbox

They open sourced a lot of repos on their github recently.

chink made drivers

The current meta is

burgers bad and lie

everyone who doesn't like burgers is good and truthful

Stop being such a... I don't know, troon or something, anon

thinking the Chinese give a shit about American patents and courts

ishygddt

muh Deepseek team of only 3 people and $500k, incledible

Turns out Deepseek was trained using black market nvidia Gpu's they got for free because the government paid for it and I bet my left nut this new Gpu is just another one of their project they do with stolen R&D they get from all the spies they have in the USA. Chinks have absolutely no originality, all they do is copy others or just steal their shit. Their electric cars too, all stolen from Tesla.

China can't even build decent ARM or RISC CPUs lol.

This GPU is obviously going nowhere

Logitech has been trash for peripherals for years, just look at how QA has fallen and material quality collapsed on the G502 in the past decade. Only the Superlight is worth a damn and it's still fragile and overpriced. If you want membrane keyboards, MS/Incase are better.
Mice are the one technology that chinkshit is perfected, that and IEMs, any decent name from ali would be better than Logitech.

More recently that a month ago, when they explicitly fucking stated they never intend to fully open source their project?

reminder that AMD's drivers are made in Shanghai and Mumbai.
That's not even a joke.
Intel got so far behind on ARC drivers since they had to restart development with an entirely new team, dropping the entire old team as they were based in Russia and SWIFT got cut off

made in china product

hope

lol

Tesla hasn't been relevant in pushing EV tech for more than a decade, they treat LIDAR like a caveman seeing fire.

That’s actually pretty good. 1.5 gens behind for a project that started from nothing a decade ago. They are almost at Intel’s level.

Blame Musk for being a retard and pushing the AI grift.

The Xbox since the 360 has e-fuses.
It's a hardware level DRM that literally physically burn parts of the CPU to stop you from installing old firmware.
It's pretty hard to beat that.

There is at least 3 problems for such new chips - lithography, designs, softfirmware. Just being able to make new a lithographic line is not even half of the whole task.

That's the thing, they can be forced to do so if they wish to sell shit in the US and EU.

the "China is doomed, total collapse in 2 months" stories never happened either

xbox still supports whatever you just posted there?

China steals Nvidia tech

Sells GPUS for 1/3rd the price and maybe 15%~ less power

I welcome the Chinese century

Commie pos

another amazing chinese thing news

once again nothing will come out of it as always

Dont get me wrong if chinese would release 4060 tier GPU for cheap I would kneel to Xi and smoking mutts would be cherry on top of that scenario unfortunately as I said nothing ever fucking happens.

this. realistically it wont happen but boy do i fucking want it to

purported

Is this also like how china totally developed ChatGPT on a $50 budget and recycled silicon?

I wouldn't even trust those fuckers until that shit comes out and people do long term testing. I had two chinkphones in the past and they were the only ones that actually had technical issues that made them unusable within a year or two. This didn't happen with other shitty phones I owned, none of them actually ever broke to the point where they were unusable. Well, to be fair, except for a Russian one, but that one was basically broken to some degree from the start.
Long story short even if those fucks release some amazing tech I fully expect it to break down pretty fucking soon either way.

It's funny people don't realize efuses, or OTP memory as vendors call it, is basically a standard feature on processors these days.
Yes your CPU has it.

6nm

rtx 4060 peformance

lmao, chinks.

Why is this nm race so important anyway? Yeah, more power, cool.
I'm sure Chyna totally will mind adding another floor on their GPU farm if they can't get the latest and greatest. Truly they're doomed. They've run out of space for sure.

not censored

open weights so can be hosted by third party vendors for pennies

far better writing quality than secretary agent ChatGPT for smut

It's already ahead desu

Huawei was entirely stolen from Apple espionage you dumb chicom. Everyone in the west knows China can't develop anything on its own anymore even your initial factories were copied straight from ours. Stop trying so hard to fit in bugman.

To be fair that's what we did to the Germans. All of this happening and being allowed to happen is a byproduct of jewish influence.

Imagine how many housefires...

5090 Performance
96GB VRAM
Then we'll talk.

Steal what exactly? Computer chips tech isn't something you can download off the web and magically make. The process might as well be magic given the tech and science needed to create one.

ching chong propaganda

Nobody is using it.

lol fr
You'd think shills would remember that China is associated with low quality slop for a reason.

kek, the cope on display

He won.

non investment scamming benchmarks will peg it closer to the 2060

thread full of american seethe

i love china threads

Chicom spyware rootkit.

Anytime you say something bad about China or its people or search up naughty terms you will have a Chinese agent spying on your computer's activity.

They will then disable your computer from working if you are being too noisy.

Just don't, its not worth it.

Chinks lies so often that any article that has "China did X" is just an instant ignore these days. They are free to prove me wrong by releasing this magical GPU onto the shelves of stores instead of just in shill articles.

NOOOO IT'S PROPAGANDA NOBODY'S USING IT AMERICA NUMBA ONE PLEASE USE CHAT GPT

Anon, we're on FBI's personal board

unless you only play the very latest AAA slop every startup GPU has the same problem
0% support for the three decades of 3D games available on PC
basically cutting out 90% of the PC library by shoddy/non-existent driver support

unless you have high-tier DX9/10 and GL1.1/2.1/3.x compatibility and are willing to test hundreds of games and implement specific fixes then your GPU is worthless for any PC that isn't used as a console replacement

But I'm using it right now?!

chicom

American cope so thick you can cut it with a knife.
I'm glad Europe as a continent are moving away from this delusional empire.

didn't some frenchoid get denied entry to the glorious people's republic of america because he said some bad words about Trump and the feds went through his stuff?

Not only is something easier to do once someone else has already figured everything out but this happens every few months, a Chinese company shows off a product and it's benchmarks are lauded by news websites and then it turns out that it's literally a repackaged GPU, or that the benchmarks were heavily biased and that it performs nowhere near that, or that the product doesn't even exist and everything is swept under the rug.
How have people just not learned by now?

Fusion reaction was just Chinese dickwaving, other people could do it but fusion reactions destroy their reactors, there's no reliable shielding system, so basically china were willing to pay the hefty repairs on the reaction just to get the propaganda win.

Nearly all "American" electronics have been made in China for decades anyway.

Americans are a bunch of degenerate retards who don't know to build anything, I have no idea how people come to associate American manufacturing with quality. American cars are shit, their planes fall out of the sky, they can't build a trainset worth a damn, their steel and electronics cost many times more than what you can buy in Asia and are of a lesser quality.

As long as you don't mind sucking Russian cock too. Those don't come separate.

checks this post

checks Nvidia's melting connectors

You sure about that?

they are american designs made with dutch machines operated by cheap bugmen slaves

I'm hopeful just because I want to see the seethestorm. The reactions to Deepseek were hilarious.

I love how Americans are first to seethe how China only copies and steals, when the entirety of American history and every single one of their greatest achievements was realized either by a European or an Asian, and what experts they can't cajole into their country, they'll simply steal the technology.

When it comes to Americans, every accusation is always 100% a confession.

don't know how to build anything

designed in america

The French.

I would've denied him on the basis of being a frog thoughbeit.

I don't understand how the chinese stealing tech is a problem for the consumer

they are american designs

kek you lardasses couldn't design your way out of a paper bag
99 times out of a 100 you coast off the achievements of others, like you always have

Chicom propagandists working for $0.50cents a post is impressive, your way of typing and formatting your argument is basically chinese propaganda. LMAO.

Because it doesn't make money for """them""" and their soulless bugman cattle in America.

All of this amazingtechnology, the result of a long history of humanity's brightest and bravest minds coming together to achieve the impossible, just so I can masturbate to gacha feet. Amazing.

China innovates, America copies. Just like it's always been. Maybe America will finally make some chips? Perhaps in a few more decades?

Americunt cope

How many will die when it starts catching on fire?

Huawei steals Samsung's Tech then once caught starts stealing Apple's tech.

Oh noo we didn't know it was wrong please sar, I'm sorry sar, won't happen again sar.

STFU.

Buying IPs in a tech transfer isn’t “stealing” or “copying”

Lmao look at all tge asspained replies

Hey China shills, hows that super conductor from a few years ago that totally exists?

I don't believe ANY news from China. They have zero integrity.

should be good for both countries. it could mean nvidia will have to get their heads out of their asses if they want to compete with chinese prices.

China innovates

Lmfao the only thing China innnovates is how to fall apart once per century

Typical arrogant amerimutt. I'm thankful your illiterate citizens elected the orange nigger to dismantle your empire a century ahead of time, even the neoliberal stooges at Brussels can't pretend this can continue. Please keep antagonizing the EU more.

Look Chinks discover the cure for cancer like every other week, let's see this shit on the market, then we'll talk

JewSA cope

immediately chimps out

Remember the past 10 "innovations" from China that turned out to be over exaggerated or just outright bullshit? Why is this time different, shill?

wasn't that one Korean though?

no argument

I said hows that super conductor that you created? Where is it? Oh, was thatanother line of shit by China?

n-no this time its for real guise....

Lmao ill believe it when I see it

China great.

just leave them on ignore from now on, they are morons that believe everything revolves around glorious Xi and his empire.

China is literally, LITERALLY known for knock offs and NOT innovating. The slang term is fucking "chinese knockoff". Who the actual fuck are you trying to fool?

EvropaGOD...

Huawei and Xiaomi smartphones are as expensive as iPhones

I don't think GPU prices/performance will go down that badly

You don’t need more than 8GB vram if you’re not gaming at 4k. You just physically don’t.

Will be banned in America or hit with 6 million % tariff. They are already getting car mogged in all countries where they both can compete evenly.

Fuck, you mean that the chinks used dubious tactics to train AI? Not like the other AI trainers...Are you really a toddler? How fucking naive do you have to be?

If by compete evenly you mean like in shipping where Korean drones will work for third of the wages like cucks and outcompete western shipyards.

Do it, China bros.
Nvidia and AMD deserve to lose the global market 2030s-2090s
bc they and gaming industry killed great GeForce 10 series.

lemme guess, you need more?

What makes you think Chinese companies won't do the same when they reach the same position as AMD and NVIDIA?

China claims