Expedition 33

It's still very anime inspired in how it's directed.
MC having a cool speech while dying is a common trope.

Yeah, I get what they were going for at least. Not everything will land. They made it pretty obvious with how locked his skill tree was but more-so that his weapons had no fucking skills at all lol

It's being overrated because there's a lot of people who consume pure utter slop, so this eurojanky game being somewhat competent and underselling itself (they simply left money on the table at $50) is swallowing casual normies hook line and sinker.

Within the last few years we got the Final Fantasy SEVEN remake of our dreams, made the graphics look like playable pregenerated backgrounds in-game, people decided they hated it because they tweaked the story, and made the gameplay real time. Then out comes a basic bitch turn-based game, which captures normies hook line and sinker, BECAUSE IT INCLUDES SOME REAL TIME ELEMENTS TO FIGHTING, and they put this on a pedestal, and fire off videos left and right about how it threatens the industry that they are CONSUMING this game, this one, this one right here!! it's fucking gay.

Within the last few years we got the Final Fantasy SEVEN remake of our dreams

lmao

Funny how everyone who shits on E33 never answer this question

If it had anime on the cover, no one would have bought it or played it.
If it had anime on the cover, then it's a 7/10 game.

modern anime is utter trash yes

Bubble Bobble

It's incredibly good, but not without a couple of flaws. Also, Lune!

Jesus Christ, read a book or watch a movie ladies, let us talk about games here!

The saddest part is that it is overrated, but given the sorry state of the industry, it's impossible not to. If it were released in the early-mid 2000s, it would just be seen as a good game, but we live in an age where those are so rare, any that do come out are considered masterpieces

Yeah it definitely is
Expedition 33 unironically plays how id want a FFVII remake to actually play minus the over-rewarding parries lol

GOTY

Beat it yesterday. Its good but i don't know man, I don't get all the extreme hype and praise it got. As someone who plays jrpgs regularely this just feels like jrpg for normies who dislike anime aesthetics and only play western realistic slop.

of all time

no, but it is a very good game especially given recent years.

there is nothing more normie than modern anime
there are plenty of jarpigs with realistic and non anime aesthethics yet they never got popular

Expedition 33 plays how id want a FFVII remake

shrug

niggas are just starved of anything half-way decent
plus Anon Babble refuses to play certain kino games because they get filtered for various reasons but despite the desperate counter-shill faggots that spam threads about new stuff Anon Babble still played this

turn based

fun materia esque system

skill progression making each character feel unique

actual areas to explore

FFVII remake was so fucking bad with this shit. Didnt bother playing rebirth as a result

barely any plothole

I can tell you stopped reading in high school

Rebirth is even worse than that. It's literally Ubislop with a nuFF skin. With a shittier story than the OG.

plus Anon Babble refuses to play certain kino games

Name them.

no because you niggers are incapable of having rational discussion at this point and will instead just spam regurgitated meme talking points
besides, none of you faggots deserve to play such kino

Duh, it’s a JRPG

I like FF7R, it's how I pictured the game in my mind when I was younger. There's no reason to make things turn-based Turn-Based, games need action now, it's no longer the NES/SNES days.

It’s true. I straight up won’t interact with anything with chink calarts aka “anime”. It’s lazy trash.

there are plenty of jarpigs with realistic and non anime aesthethics

name 3

I think YOU are the faggot here, afraid of being laughed at. I know what I like and I'll continue to post about it no matter the shitposting.

Soul Sacrifice
Lost Odyssey
Trinity Souls of Zill O'll

I think YOU are the faggot here, afraid of being laughed at.

exactly- I knew you asked so you could then just spam >hurr you have bad taste instead of making an argument
you are a spiritual nigger along with 90% of what's left of this board

blatantly rip off Fate

I meant for

The best shows on Netflix are all anime.

Soul Sacrifice

Played it, loved it.

Lost Odyssey

It's been on my backlog for a while now. Guillaume shilling it kinda rekindled my interest, might emulate it soon.

Trinity Souls of Zill O'll

Never heard of it, will check it out.

FFVI remake should have QTEs

You guys are worse than Squeenix.

go back to your general, spammers

FF7 did not need a remake in the first place.
The fact you played it already means you are a brainrot zoomer faggot and you should literally kys.

I refuse to talk about vidya on a vidya board

but YOU are a spiritual nigger, not me

QTE's are still innovative as fuck, despite Shenmue inventing them in the early 2000's. Barely any game truly takes advantage of them.

correct, I am hear to state my opinion which I know to be fact, I am not interested in the chimpanzee screeching that I hear in return

I am hear

Thank you saar.

I only played the demo and hated it.

I hate how blurry and pixelated the game looks.

There's no reason to make things turn-based Turn-Based, games need action now,

oh I don't know, maybe because people actually enjoyed it? I refuse to play modern Final Fantasy games until they abandon the shitty wannabe action game hybrid systems.

Fuck off fatso spam nightreign or gtfo this game is old bait

are you one of those "souls games are JRPGs" people?

honorable sacrifice

piano playing intensifies

Let's say it is an 8/10 for you right now, isn't that still an achievement? Games are almost overwhelmingly dogshit now. You haven't finished the story and I think the ending is where a lot of the praise stems from, but I was hooked immediately. The OST alone probably bumped it to a baseline 8/10 for me.

I play mostly indie and Japanese games.

It's really really fucking good. Like an actual GOAT contender.

The game so far isn’t anything groundbreaking unless you’ve never played a JRPG before, and yet people are acting as if it is.

That's precisely because they don't play JRPGs and who could blame them?

Can you give examples of other JRPGs that have similar gameplay? Some shit is standard, like weaknesses and timed hits, but adding on parries, dodges, jumping and free aim? What games have all those things? And preferably games that aren't 80 hours long with multiple 2+ hour cutscenes.

I don't see how anyone could walk through the Sirène level while this song plays in the background and not realize this game is something special:

youtu.be/bTAlomrlDvo?t=12

Can you give examples of other JRPGs that have similar gameplay?

NTA but Paper Mario and Super Mario RPG.

Sure, which is why I enjoy those games, but I think the combat in E33 is more complex overall because it has more shit going for it.

That's a very generic ballad. Do you guys even listen to music outside of game soundtracks?

I said minus the qte shit anon

I cannot take a game that relies on Indians to market it seriously

everything must be 'completely never seen before' for me to enjoy

I hate zoomgroids so much it's unreal

I do, and this is very far from generic. You are likely a dimwit or homosexual.

I played it on Gamepass and any golden era Squaresoft title mogs it easily, I unironically don't understand the shilling.

More cinematography than any FF game in the last decade

writing is pretty shit past act 2 honestly but still

The shilling is because there are no new golden era squaresoft titles. Zoomers never grew up with those so a solid 7/10 RPG will be viewed at much more highly in a sea of 4s

If you listened to any amount of European or Japanese music you would be sick of that type of ballads already.

Pajeet Pass

I don't understand the shilling.

The answer is in your post.

Not really. I love lullabies as environmental music in vidya. There is nothing more soulful.
youtube.com/watch?v=QStXOAcPQvs
youtube.com/watch?v=zs05Geio770

Thief TDP
Portal 2
Deus Ex
Dota 2
Zelda OoT
Super Mario 64
Gothic II
Morrowind
Ultima Online
Vanilla WoW

It's just an 8/10 that people are mindlessly sucking off because it wasn't made by Atlus/Square. Everything outside of the battle system is mediocre.

It's the first great game since Elden Ring
all the criticisms I've seen are just nitpicks

midwit moment lmao

Dota 2

Portal 2

WoW

appart from that, it's a good list.
Thief 2 is better.

It's a 8/10 game that gets praised as a 10/10 because it was made by a "small" team of only 30 people.

8/10 from its battle system alone

seems based to me

Dota 2 and Wow were both 10/10 games at some point in their lifetime, them being utter shit now doesn't erase their past greatness.
Portal 2 is a really weird pick though, I agree.

8/10 is about right

midwit moment lmao

Elden Ring has lots of issues.

Being stagnant=only japanese games
It's just westernfags crying over Japanese games existing as usual

filtered by burricks and zombies

Western RPGs were pretty stagnant too. BG3 was literally the E33 equivalent for that genre

It's not the greatest of all time. It's a very good, solid JRPG that came out of nowhere and delighted a lot of people. Some people are getting carried away but there's still very wide agreement that it's a fine game in a genre that rarely gets good releases and is also good in a number of ways people don't expect things to be good any more.

Sure, but that's because the gameplay while in a battle (which is the most important part) is a 9.5/10, but the gameplay outside of battles is like a 4/10. There's zero depth to it. Just run around and collect one of the same 3 items over and over again.

The real question is why is Anon Babble so fucking mad at this game:

It's a good game

It has a fair price

It's a new IP and does not ruin an existing franchise

developers seem like cool lads who don't hate their audience

female characters don't look like total freaks

That some people on Anon Babble are on a crusade to destroy it is what's suspicious to me.
Like they've been sent by AAA corpos who want to push the 80$ price cap. Very strange.
People are overhyping it so what? Seems pretty harmless compared to when slop like Dragon Age or Shadows were shilled.

The guitar in the OST version makes that track sound way more generic. Focusing on the voice makes it more eerie.

Because its popular and normies seem to like it.

Getting popular means it starts getting hate and people here get mad
The board overwhelmingly jerked undertale off when it came out but did an 180 right after

BG3 is just a classic CRPG with modern tech and better production values.

describes a western convention drawing on from centuries of theatre

labels it as Japanese

goes so far as to label it as anime when anime deaths (and death in Japanese media as a whole) are characterized by introspection rather extensive speeches

It doesn't appeal to the average gamer. It's like if people went around saying that Infinity Nikki was a timeless masterpiece.

And E33 is a classic JRPG with modern tech and better production values.

why is Anon Babble so fucking mad at this game

maybe the dozens of threads spamming the board every day pretending the game is the second coming? I don't know man, Jesus... I wonder... Can't criticize this perfect game.

That's because the Undertale audience became ultra-cringe. Also people don't pretend Undertale is a perfect masterpiece.

LAERTES.
He is justly serv’d.
It is a poison temper’d by himself.
Exchange forgiveness with me, noble Hamlet.
Mine and my father’s death come not upon thee,
Nor thine on me.
[Dies.]

HAMLET.
O, I die, Horatio.
The potent poison quite o’er-crows my spirit:
I cannot live to hear the news from England,
But I do prophesy th’election lights
On Fortinbras. He has my dying voice.
So tell him, with the occurrents more and less,
Which have solicited. The rest is silence.
[Dies.]

people enjoyed silent movies too

I also generally find it to be an 8/10. Maybe a 9/10. I love the art style, the characters are enjoyable, the combat is MOSTLY fun (more on this in a minute), the soundtrack is fantastic, the exploration is pretty solid despite largely linear level design, which I actually find to be a good thing, and I fucking love that the game has a proper overworld, proving even THAT can still be done in a modern game.

Where I feel the game is somewhat held back is in its combat and just the structure of the game's pacing in general. The combat is only held back because it's very easy to settle on a play style and then not feel like budging from that because the game doesn't really make you budge from that. Once you effectively "solve" the combat, the magic kinda wears off. I think the game will probably be good for challenge runs and the like in the long run though because of how versatile its builds can be. I just think it's unfortunate that some playstyles are definitively superior to others in ALL cases. And I don't have any issues with the pacing of the game itself, but the way you go about progressing is kinda by the book. Enter new area, get a short cutscene or something introducing the area, make your way through the area with some party conversation peppered throughout, get to the end, fight a boss, another cutscene, and then camp. And then you do it all over again. It's functional, but it's kinda boring. I think it's inoffensive in the grand scheme of things more than anything, but I noticed it, so I gripe about it.

All that aside, I think the game is fantastic. Not a masterpiece by any means, but for $50 and being made by a much smaller team than any AAA developer out there, I can see why people would treat it as such. It's a video game doing a whole lot of shit right in a world where devs and publishers are doing a whole lot of shit wrong.

tl;dr game good, and while I don't consider it a masterpiece myself, I get the sentiment.

Elden Ring for sure.

It's an Unreal Engine game, it's the most basic tech imaginable and it looks noisy as fuck. Big budget JRPGs had orchestrated soundtracks for ages now. It only stands out because of the art direction not being anime-inspired.

E33 doesn't have an orchestrated soundtrack appart from 8 tracks out of 164.

Their answer is almost always basic shit like Last Of Us, Red Dead and Nu-GOW. I’d put Bear Sex 3 in that list as well, but at least it’s “a game”.

When people on Anon Babble see something suddenly get extremely popular, they do one of two things

Try it to see why it's so suddenly popular, if they like it, it gets more popular, if they don't like it, they start to hate it because it's popular

Hate it because it's popular without trying it

Eventually the people who like it move on, only discussing it occasionally, while the people who hate it, hate it forever.

It stands out because it has an overworld, which is something Square Enix has refused to do since FFX

Star Wars Galaxies was my personal 11/10 at some point in it's history, beating out any other game.

barely any plothole

well yeah thats because there is no writing until the third act

No, it's more that answering this question on Anon Babble is fucking pointless because it doesn't actually matter what you think is 10/10 as this is just an excuse to bait people into having their opinions shat on.

lmao struck a nerve with this one

You're a pussy, mate. I like what I like and I'm not afraid to admit it.

The problem is some shitposters are using the game as an excuse to shit on other JRPGs and make a bunch of gay anti-Japan threads despite the fact that E33 was directly inspired by JRPGs. Fags who never cared for the genre and feel its beneath them latched onto E33.

Congratulations.

That game has Lune in it and it's all that matters

I remember FFX being a straight line.

The game's entire appeal is that it's not Japanese. The music and art are different from JRPGs precisely because they have more European influence than your average anime waifu simulator which are all rooted in otaku culture. It creates the illusion of being more sophisticated even though it's the same shit.

I’ll ignore the bait part to answer the real part. It’s because the game is sincere and treats its audience with respect. It’s because it feels meaningful and doesn’t waste your time. But it’s a game that takes the wonder of the early era of JRPG’s and transfers that to modern gaming conventions. Graphics aren’t everything. Have tons of bloat isn’t everything. I loved both Remake and Rebirth. I’m not mad about the time jannies and I look forward to part 3 with glee. EX33 is better than both this games combined.

this game has spawned the most insufferable discussions where people think its the crime and punishment of games and any criticism of the narrative is met with racism and insults to intelligence

The appeal is that its a turn based game that takes cues from classic JRPGs that people loved and refines them. Sure aesthetically the game is very different but even the story isn't out of place for a JRPG.

If you are alluding to Dostoevsky’s worst novels, then, indeed, I dislike intensely The Brothers Karamazov and the ghastly Crime and Punishment rigamarole. No, I do not object to soul-searching and self-revelation, but in those books the soul, and the sins, and the sentimentality, and the journalese, hardly warrant the tedious and muddled search. Dostoyevsky’s lack of taste, his monotonous dealings with persons suffering with pre-Freudian complexes, the way he has of wallowing in the tragic misadventures of human dignity – all this is difficult to admire. I do not like this trick his characters have of ”sinning their way to Jesus” or, as a Russian author, Ivan Bunin, put it more bluntly, ”spilling Jesus all over the place." Crime and Punishment’s plot did not seem as incredibly banal in 1866 when the book was written as it does now when noble prostitutes are apt to be received a little cynically by experienced readers. Dostoyevsky never really got over the influence which the European mystery novel and the sentimental novel made upon him. The sentimental influence implied that kind of conflict he liked—placing virtuous people in pathetic situations and then extracting from these situations the last ounce of pathos. Non-Russian readers do not realize two things: that not all Russians love Dostoevsky as much as Americans do, and that most of those Russians who do, venerate him as a mystic and not as an artist. He was a prophet, a claptrap journalist and a slapdash comedian. I admit that some of his scenes, some of his tremendous farcical rows are extraordinarily amusing. But his sensitive murderers and soulful prostitutes are not to be endured for one moment—by this reader anyway. Dostoyevsky seems to have been chosen by the destiny of Russian letters to become Russia’s greatest playwright, but he took the wrong turning and wrote novels.

I meant to say FFIX since FFX onwards they scrapped that shit

yeah, but when movies started getting produced with sound, the sales didn't suddenly stop meeting expectations.

and? videogames are suppose to be art so you rank them via its artistry meter not if it made you emotional or not.

I liked the combat system of FF7R but shitting on turn based when EX33 clearly shows people are fine with this play style is stupid. EX33 created a dynamic system that’s still 4 niggas in a row but with more shit you can do. That’s all we ever fucking wanted man.
You should seriously just fucking kill yourself nigger. Don’t come screaming in these threads like a bitch and then when asked to back up your shit you weasel out like a faggot. Go play your weebslop somewhere faggot.

That's the case for most Games Pass games since the Indian shills aren't particularly smart.

I'm actually going to challenge your description and say that the game has a disconnect with what the narrative offers and what the world is trying to portray because on one hand there is a tragedy about grief that gives the overworld a melancholic feeling which doesnt mesh well with the intentions of creating a whimsical jrpg journey.

Is this Anon Babble copypasta?

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Why do so many jeets defend this jeet game, is it because the dev team is brown?

Even Bollywood music is more memorable than Western New Age shit.

it's just a really good game op, stop freaking out, people will always overhype stuff they like.

muhhh media literacy

you fucking leftoid shitheads can't help expose yourselves right? it's so fucking funny you lot are SOOO miserable you even screech at people enjoying a game lmao

Because Anon Babble is still a board of reject animefags who are mad that a game that clearly is inspired by JRPG’s is getting glazed harder than any JRPG in decades. I love anime/manga/nip games and EX33 fucking mogs the shit outa Japan right now it’s that fucking simple. And this coming from a Redditbirth and Metawoke shill. I loved those games but the impact that EX33 has had on me personally is in a completely different class. I haven’t been this sure about a game since Elden Ring.

bloodborne, homeworld, stellaris, starcraft, half-life, portal, dark souls, sekiro, sim city 4, chrono trigger, final fantasy tactics, ff6, company of heroes, diablo 2, freedom planet 2, mega man x, outpost 2, sim ant, rim world, sonic & knuckles/sonic mania, subnautica, genshin.

sorry, those aren't all 10 out 10s and some were only great at their time. but all of them are better than ex33

genshin

finshed it yesterday. i'm still thinking about it.
best game of all time for me
never played a jrpg in my life so maybe I'm a noob

10/10 characters

10/10 story

100/10 music

10/10 graphics and art direction

8/10 gameplay because you have to be an autist to beat some enemies on the first try untill you learn their mechaincs. But it's still extremly fun.

Maybe it was the shit that we've been served these last few years, bu it was best entertainment experience I've ever had hands down.

It’s not a whimsical journey. It’s literally a race against time to face an existential threat head on. I’m not sure where whimsical comes from here

Is this a pasta

Anon….

Yes...Lune...

you're a pasta mon amis

because the post I replied to says it take the wonder of the early era JRPGs, which are whimsical in themselves. I was saying it doesnt feel like those adventures because of the sad story and youve just proved my point

finally find the volleyball shit

I feel like the guy who made this got filtered by chocobo balloons and this is his revenge. RNG Minigame

yeah even that shitty genshin game is better LOL

Act 1 10/10
Act 2 10/10
Act 3 9/10

i can't believe i forgot to mention metal gear solid. i can't list every single game, we would have a pages and pages of games that are better than ex33

Pretty based list, congrats. However these may be good but don't quite belong here:

Zelda OoT

Super Mario 64

and these are definitely out

Morrowind

Vanilla WoW

I shit on it despite it appealing to populism, because it's an outdated paradigm, and I want nice things.

The only 10/10 game in existence is OoT. FF7 would be a close second but it has too much anime randomness

I remember I did a play though killing only females. I got the high chaos ending because of all of the witches towards the end.

I'm honestly not surprised the same faggots that liked BG3 likes E33

People who like one turn based RPG like another turn basaed RPG

Why would you be?

ff6

everytime mentions this turd, I can stop reading because I know I'm dealing with the most hipster faggot to ever exist.
also

subnautica

sonic mania

holy kek

what are filters faggot

Xenoblade Chronicles 2

But enough about elden ring

genshin has better world building, writing, music, graphical presentation, graphic design, level design
ex33 and genshin story and gameplay are both shit
ex33 has better graphics

so both games are ultimately trash because they fail to deliver fun gameplay. genshin is easy and brainless as shit while ex33 gameplay consists entirely of quick time events. but genshin is free to play unless you are a gambling addicted brainlet, which i suspect you are. nonetheless, i wouldn't recommend either of these games except genshin if you are a poor fag

genshin

better than e33

LAUGHING
MY
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I agree. It's funny how a company that should be able to recreate those golden era titles actively chooses NOT to. Instead they drop tone-deaf statements on how people dont want to play turn-based jRPGs anymore. Then, out of nowhere, a bunch of frogs comes along and makes a proper FFXVII. They are rewarded by winning over 30+ year olds who would've otherwise bought a turn-based FF game.

I wonder how will Square react. Will they pull off a Nintendo and try to sue Sandfall for similiarities or will they take the hint and give both Nomura and Yoshi-P a good dressing-down.

genshin has better world building, writing, music, graphical presentation, graphic design, level design

no.

From what I can tell, it would be a great game 10 years ago, but it's a masterpiece by today's standards.

Zoomgroids should be deported to Africa. There is no salvation for your damaged kind.

like i said lmao

There's a whole bunch of 6 and 7/10 reviews.
If you read them (i have, front to back) they all speak about the exact same problems with the game. They all say yes it's good, but it's not doing anything that hasn't been done 1000 times already.

Its massive popularity is simply because it's not an anime game, and so the trillions of people who normally avoid JRPG's are actually trying this one out and realising for the first time in their lives "wow this genre isn't as icky as i thought it was, it's actually pretty neat"

You have to stop with the narrative that Jarpigs are some kind of obscure genre or something lmao.
Most europeans in their 30s played OG FF7.
Most zoomoids played Persona 5.

but it's not doing anything that hasn't been done 1000 times already

who gives a shit

I don't remember why but I do remember the ending of zill o'll is kino

It's a B+ game hyped up as A+ by the community and intro chapter. Towards the end of the game you see things that aren't really fleshed out or polished. Item drops are bland. You anticipate great things from the areas and underwater, but they're mostly just places to pick up item drops. It needs more specific picto sorting. Audio needs balancing. The fog and bloom are way too much. Writing, meh. The characters unnaturally delay explanation for later parts of the game to pace it out, so they're just annoyingly cryptic at first.

Good effort by the devs tho. Their next game should be a banger.

genshin has better world building, writing, music, graphical presentation, graphic design, level design

listened to some of the songs with subtitles

Holy fuck, if I knew french it would have added to the experience

it's a 7/10 JRPG. story was ass and very few likeable characters. retards hype it up cause they dont know what a good JRPG is actually like

combat was enjoyable but unbalanced as fuck past mid act II

ass

stop importing your xitter zoomer lingo here

The story is good, but its funny watching people who have never experienced anything beyond anime and video games go apeshit at the idea of metaphors and allegories

shills shill because they get paid to, hth

what are some other metaphors and allegories video games?

LMAOOOOOOO screencapping this shit so next time a retard pretends E33 is bad we can say it's you and your shit taste.

What I don’t like about the game is the dull brown environment, and the below average soundtrack and voice acting that people hype up. It has a cheap look and feel.

Metaphor

what a good JRPG is actually like

By this, this animal means Persona 5 btw LMAOOOOOOOOOO

It's a great game but calling it one of the goats is more a sign of how bad every other game is

You realize E33 is like 80% Persona 5, right?

It only takes inspiration from its UI. Everything else is completely different.

It is, objectively, pretty great. Naturally this will cause some people to say gotyay and some people so seethe and say it's shit. Check back in a year and see how people feel.

A field of swords is hardly unique to fate.

You didn't play the game.

No.

Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze

Also people don't pretend Undertale is a perfect masterpiece.

Are uou sure you don't want to take back this statement?

Resident Evil 4

I played P4 on my PS TV and P5 on my PS4.

I’m at the start of Act 2 now, and while it’s good, I’d say it’s an 8/10

Don't worry, OP. By the time you're at act 3 that score will have dropped to a 6/10 at the least.

kys

genshin

CoH

ah ha ha ha hee hee ho ho, man thats good

I’m at the start of Act 2 now, and while it’s good, I’d say it’s an 8/10 rather than an an all time great.

This is the correct opinion. When you get to Act III, it will become a 7/10.

It's a good game, it's just not "great". I think that a lot of zoomers who don't actually play video games downloaded it from gamepass because it's free, and since they've literally never played a decent video game, they are treating this as the second coming of Christ when really it's just a pretty good game and nothing more than that.

To really understand the game you have to be 33 or older and played JRPGs as a kid.

I am, the boner, my sword....

I'm 36 and I grew up playing pretty much every single JRPG, and I agree with him. I think zoomers are the ones who are overrating this game.

The shitposters are 2 parts indians, 1 part anons seething that verso has a thick cock and has sex

I am a straight white man in my 30s. I grew up playing JRPGs. E33 is good, but not great, and the twist has been done many times before. You're a zoomer who doesn't actually play video games, so you wouldn't know.

Its the same shit that happened to BG3. A solid 8/10 that gets massively elevated because nearly everything else from AAA studios has been slop.
E33 is arguably a better game AND it has a better "underdog" success story.

Every news article and award it receives is another AAA suit screaming at their subordinates about how the fuck did they do this when we can't, so I can't say I mind it being over-hyped.

and the twist has been done many times before

there is not a single twist in the game

BG3 was a fucking turd, not a solid 8/10

there is not a single twist in the game

You either didn't play it or you're being retarded on purpose. Would you prefer that I call it "the reveal" which has been done before many times?

maellefags btfo

Verso doesn't hate painters. Your retarded attempt at memeing makes no sense.

After playing this, I simply demand... art.
I'm something of a distinguished gentleman now.
I will settle for nothing less but art.
What is some other art kino that can remotely keep up?

Yes. Choice of words matters. A reveal has nothing to do with a twist. You don't need a degree in writing to know this much.

which has been done before many times

How exactly is it a bad thing if it's properly written?

It's a 8/10, but what's the last "realist" JRPG that deserves a 8/10? Lost Odyssey maybe?

IT'S NOT BRAND NEW

Video games aren't novels. Novelty of the plot isn't the deciding factor in quality. Expedition 33 executes its plot, the music, the voice acting, the visuals, and the gameplay. I'm not saying any single aspect was so legendary, but having a game come out that hits all the marks it was aiming for is rare.
He literally wants every single painter out of the canvas including his namesake's soul.

FF10 and maybe SMT: Nocturne

the newest game on that list came out 12 years ago

80% of them are over 20 years old

You can add Expedition 33 to that list. It's time.

It's literally the highest rated game of all time. No one who has been playing games from before 2010 is impressed, the story is fucking stupid.

Death Stranding
It is autistic as shit but it's also genuine art, Kojingles tried to do something different.

Lobotomy Corporation
Nier Gestalt + Automata
Silent Hill 2

You didn't play the game.

the story is fucking stupid

How so?

Expedition 33 is unironically a game that requires a shockingly high IQ to fully understand thematically like a lot of the greatest literature. Most of the criticism is because it was advertised towards JRPG fans and they are irredeemably stupid people.

I could see how being a bit older 30+ is still plenty young, Gustave wouldn't lie to me would help with fully comprehending the depth of the game and its conflicts.

What I hate about this game is that all the characters are constantly bloody and muddy. Except in that one area where it's constantly raining.

Even when you camp and there's a fucking river there, the characters don't wash. They still bloody and muddy the next day.

I think I hate Hollywood actors too much to enjoy anything Kojimbo puts out.

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This is why people here hate the fags that shill this game

first time here bud?

Them actually being able to create a bewitching atmosphere around a siren character was no small feat.

You can't be serious

You don't need a degree in writing to know this much.

I'd think you're just a nitpicking autist who is angry that I think Act III loses the game points when it could just as easily have gained the game points if it were good.

How exactly is it a bad thing if it's properly written?

"You're in a dream!" is never properly written. I will admit, that it has done it probably the best, but the mere concept of this is already poor writing. This is like the very first thing that anyone learns not to do even as early as middle school. It's never okay to have this """reveal""" make it to a multimillion dollar endeavor.

Okay, anon. You won. I now hate the game and you can stop posting.

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Expedition 33. The humor is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head.

I know this is a shitpost but modern jrpg fans are unironically seething about the endings and insisting there will be a "golden end" dlc with a happy ending for the burned up girl they wanna fuck.

best OST since LotR

hit tab

hold q

wa la

see Also see my other post: I'm just trying to tell the OP his opinion is right, but I'm being accosted by pseudointellectual zoomers defending this 7/10 game with their life and calling me brown (despite being white) simply because I don't think it's a 10/10 game.

Another thing I forgot to mention. You're right, it's a 8/10 game for where you are. Act III is a make or break, and will probably lower your score to a 7/10. But the worst fucking part of all this is that if you do anything other than suck the game off completely, a horde of pseudointellectual zoomers who have co-opted this game as their entire personality will insist that you are a retard who just didn't understand it.

It is unironically not a dream. The people in the canvas are not solipsistic extensions of any character's mind. They are independent and have sophisticated thoughts and feelings, the same as real humans. It's not some world dreamed up existing only in the mind of a dreamer. It's built into a physical canvas, it's a pocket dimension with a real society that exists in it. It's just a tragic and doomed situation all around, but far from a dream.

You're being pedantic again, my little pseud.

I'm 33 and yes you didn't understand it.
It's not a bad thing to not understand it. It doesn't make it pseudointellectual. The story is very straightforward.
But your it was all a dream stop statement proves you didn't get it. It as simple as that.

can't argue, can insult

Midwit.

It's not a bad thing to not understand it.

This is the worst part of the fanbase. Like, for real. People like you are going to make the entire internet hate E33 fans before the year is done.

The game could not possibly explain anything more clearly to the player, and yet you pseudointellectual faggots will still swear up and down that anyone who rates the game less than a 10/10 didn't understand it. I can't even imagine being so far up your own asshole that you could think something like this, let alone say it.

Midwit.

Thank you for agreeing with me and proving that you are a vapid, massively autistic pseudointellectual with a hyperfixation on pedantry.

doesn't understand the difference between emanations from your own subconscious and separate entities with their own independent thoughts and feelings

lashes out in a seething, flailing fit about it

Disappointing.

Zelda OoT

Super Mario 64

Morrowind

Kys absolute retard

You can't seem to grasp that the point of the game isn't what you thought it was, it was supposed to make you attached to the painted world and unwilling to let it go just like Maelle. You were also supposed to understand, by spending so much time with them, that they are not just dream people or AIs but you just can't seem to understand it. And since it works for so very many people but not you, maybe you are just a bit brown on the genetic side.

the same as real humans

Really. Just like real humans. So what you're telling me is that when Renoir said he's created hundreds of paintings, that means he's created potentially millions of real human beings. While living in France. And you see no narrative problems with this?

Anyone who makes multiple posts saying "I'm white!" is not.

Reddit game for brownoids and trannies

1. Why should I fucking care how the fanbase is perceived on the internet. I'm not a kid or a tendie that identifies with a video game.

2. Me saying you didn't understand it doesn't make me pseudointellectual. I don't get your frustration, all you can come up with is ad hominem instead of arguments. You're the one who's come up and stated "it was all a dream" not me. So it's up to you to prove your point.

There's no indication that every canvas created has painted humans in it. They didn't exist in Verso's until Aline painted them to create a fake Paris to live with her fake family in.

Zelda OOT
Zelda MM Mario 64
Starfox 64
Metal Gear Solid 1
Metal Gear Solid 2
Metal Gear Solid 3
Resident Evil Remake
Resident Evil 2 (og)
Resident Evil 4 (og)
Streets of Rage 2
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Final Fantasy 7 (og)
GTA San Andreas
Castlevania SOTN
Mass Effect 1
Assassins Creed 2
Batman Arkham Asylum
Metroid Zero Mission
Super Metroid
Metroid Prime
Tomb Raider 2
Pokemon Red/Blue
Pokemon Gold/Silver
Deus Ex
Deus Ex Human Revolution
Tekken 3
Street fighter 2
Soul Calibur 2
Mortal Kombat 2
Dark Souls 1
Witcher 3
Mirror's Edge
Red Dead Redemption 1
CIV 5

Witcher 3

The gameplay in that one is AWFUL. No way it's a 10/10.

Mario 64

Metroid Zero Mission

Kys retard

Deus Ex Human Revolution

Assassins Creed 2

Batman Arkham Asylum

Mirror's Edge

Witcher 3

Mass Effect 1

but more importantly

Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

oblivion

10/10

Come on man

>doesn't understand the difference between emanations from your own subconscious and separate entities with their own independent thoughts and feelings

>they are not just dream people

I put "You're in a dream!" in quotes for a reason. It's an ultimately inconsequential detail anyway, and is nonetheless *explicitly* explained to the player in a way that not even the dumbest retard could possibly misunderstand it.

This game is such a weird magnet for pseudointellectuals. Like, there is nothing deep about this game. Literally every single detail of the main plot is explained, in detail, to the player all at one time in what is essentially an infodump. How could a pseud decide to attach themselves to it? There is no mystery to it.

What am I supposed to say then? Act III is bad enough to decrease my rating for the game. Many other people share this same opinion. There are people genuinely saying that if this is my opinion then I am not white... but I am white, and this same exact thing has been done many times before and is literally never good. You learn not to do this in fucking middle school English class. Why is this one of the "arguments" the pseudointellectuals use to "counter" people who thought the game was better in Acts I and II?

I'm not a kid or a tendie that identifies with a video game.

You are very much identifying with this game. That's why you're sitting in a thread policing anyone who didn't like Act III and insisting that the game is possible to misunderstand when it is not. This is one of the most explicitly told "reveals" (some autist got mad earlier because I said "twist") that has ever been put into a video game. Anyone saying otherwise is a pseudointellectual who sniffs their own asshole.

It has like 100ms of input lag and the level quality drops off a cliff in the latter level. There's like no flow to most of the levels.

(Me)

There is no mystery to it.

Actually, I take that back. There *is* mystery to it, it's just that none of the mystery is in the main narrative, and all of the "mystery" remaining in the game is shit that no one but me ever talks about like Alicia probably being a writer and probably "Writing" the fire that killed Verso and maybe the "real world" being a "Written" universe just like the main game was a "Painted" one.

burned up girl they wanna fuck.

Marry, hug and kiss a lot and of course do a great amount of hand holding.

I see. You hate the game because you would have gommaged long before the game starts

Literally just Demon's Souls, DOS2, and New Vegas

t. beat 1000+ games

Its a good game. Not a great one. Simple as really. The game is being overpraised everywhere by an insane amount. Its got good music, visuals, and combat (sometimes) but the story and character are all terrible. Its a mostly enjoyable but ultimately forgettable experience. A 7.5/10

but the story and character are all terrible

Let me guess: you're brown or chinese

Chrono Trigger is the only 10/10 JRPG.

it's an indicator that something is never properly written

it's also an ultimately inconsequential details

Trying to walk back your statement because you cannot argue against the -fact- that the canvas is not a dream.

*explicitly* explained to the player in a way that not even the dumbest retard could possibly misunderstand it.

Looks like some people still managed, buddy.

What am I supposed to say then?

"I was wrong" or "I said that poorly" or "I made a mistake." It's an anonymous board nigger, there's no face to save and it's not a big deal. You don't need to die on every hill, especially ones you didn't even mean to set foot on.

Too easy, zero build variety, zero real tactical options. It's a 3/10 at best, you just spam your strongest skill in every battle.

Trying to walk back your statement

Can you explain to me where I'm "walking" any statement back? I don't even understand how or why you think the two statements you greentexted are at odds with each other.

you cannot argue against the -fact- that the canvas is not a dream.

I never said that it was. It was put into quotes for a reason. The "difference" is ultimately inconsequential to the narrative. You either "go back to sleep" or you "wake up". If you cannot understand this metaphor, then (You) are the midwit.
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AllJustADream

"I was wrong" or "I said that poorly" or "I made a mistake." It's an anonymous board nigger, there's no face to save and it's not a big deal. You don't need to die on every hill, especially ones you didn't even mean to set foot on.

I think you're going schizo or something. Or maybe you're still that same pseudointellectual autist from earlier who is excessively obsessed with pedantry and who cannot even begin to comprehend metaphors, so you've interpreted an argument which you are now having with yourself, because I cannot possibly parse how any of this has anything to do with the fact that I'm white.

Read what you wrote and realize how cringe and lame you sound. Absolutely pathetic.

Remove genshit and you’re good.

I thought it was just good but not phenomenal until act 3. The ending especially is something that brings the whole thing together and will probably stick with you, along with some of the character writing for the party members. Didn't even like the gameplay much but the story and presentation is top notch.

jrpgs are my favorite genre, been playing them since i was 10. this isn't even a japanese rpg and I do genuinely think it btfos the entire industry right now in every department aside from progression + build variety and dungeon + level design (which are very important and does hold me back from saying this is the best rpg even of the 2020s so far, let alone "of all time")

characters, presentation, music, story, dialogue, all leagues better than anything nipland can crank out these days. they're all too autistic to tell a good story with real-feeling characters these days. this game made me actually feel something other than the dull pleasure i get from grinding and doing quests from modern jrpgs, for that reason alone it's at least an 8 if not a 9/10. i had a lot of complaints about its mechanics and level design (and the fucking terrible minigames) but it's truly an extraordinary rpg while so many modern rpgs are barely passing the litmus test of "Well I love rpgs so of course I enjoy this game"

Counter-point: Chrono Trigger "feels good man".
Great first jrpg for a new player. Kinda short, easy combat, a few places to get stuck but mainly by not being properly equipped for a difficult mission, hardly any parts where you get stuck due to dungeons or areas being confusing (every square rpg has "the tree part" where you get stuck and there's a big tree or a forest) and if you don't know where to go then go to any random place and see if there's something there to do since there are multiple ways to advance the story.

People will recommend Final Fantasy as first jrpg but every Final Fantasy requires grinding and sometimes doesn't say where the fuck to go, or does but you gotta read closely and remember. Dragon Quest is not popular in NA. Pokemon doesn't count. Noobs need to learn the ropes.

non original

nothing unique

borrows heavily from other games

boring shitty combat

sure if you like jrpg's it may be a 10 out 10. The problem is jrpg's are shit for anyone who doesn't like them. The best games can bring anyone into their world, get them engrossed, they offer something new. this is yet another conveyor belt jrpg. It is like soulfags thinking Elden Ring is the best game ever or Monster Hunter fags saying one of the games from that shitty franchise is the best in the world, it's hilarious.

I'm getting Lost odyssey vibes from this shit. a blatantly 6/10 game loved by faggots who never play more than two games a year.

slop

eurojank

normies

log off bro you forgot how to talk normally

I 200%ed the game. I thought it would eventually click, but it never really did. I still like the level themes and OST, but in terms of actual level design and flow, only the temple worlds and secret worlds really succeeded at that. Too much focus on the level theming sabotaged the actual platforming design.

Yeah, Chrono Trigger "just works" and everything falls neatly into place. It's just a nice, lean, pure JRPG experience. None of that bloat that most other JRPGs have. No stupid bullshit twist. Everything fits together like a puzzle and runs like a well oiled machine.

zero build variety, zero real tactical options

Neither one of these are true. When I replay the game, I find myself doing different things than I did previously. I kept Crono equipped with the Frenzy Band for an entire playthrough once. My most recent playthrough I didn't revive Chrono and I actually used the Triple Tech rocks that Magus gets so he can have Techs with other party members. It's nothing like skill trees, but you can definitely play the game differently than before if you wanted to.

Do you guys even listen to music outside of game soundtracks?

Why do you faggots always get so personal? You’re making me cry

Sure it's a 10/10 if all you play is normalfag shit like TLoU or bottom of the barrel JRPGs like Persona5. Otherwise it's a 7/10 that retreads older JRPGs while being made in a terrible engine

FF7 is garbage you nostalgia high faggot manchild

...he didn't say anything about FF7...

Are you a bot?

Oh, believe me, he was thinking about it

mogged by golden era squaresoft, aka the peak of the genre which is 30 years in the rear view mirror

No shit. Don't you think a game might be evaluated against its contemporaries, and not the literal peak of the industry from before half of the people on this board were even born? Playing this game felt like playing peak Square but with modern tech, it feels like something that you would expect peak Square to make if you teleported them into the future while, in reality, they're making whatever cancerous garbage modern FF is. That's enough reason for people to praise E33 to the high heavens.

lol can't tell if joke or schizo

The "difference" is ultimately inconsequential to the narrative.

The stakes are entirely different, because the other entities in the dream are independent lifeforms whose existence depends on the maintenance of the canvas, not the "dreamer" staying in the dream. The one maintaining them is verso's soul, who can either be put to rest resulting in the canvas being destroyed, or continue to toil to maintain it. Alicia, the closest thing to a "dreamer" here is irrelevant to that.

Or maybe you're still that same

No nigger, you're just an opinionated retard, so I'm sure a lot of people call you out.

I put the thing in quotes so it applies even though it's totally different though

Original FF7 was just alright and I dropped it on the last disc because I was getting bored.
Compilation and Remake FF7 is total garbage. So no I wasn't thinking about them

The real question is why is Anon Babble so fucking mad at this game:

Popular and well-liked. That's it. The sooner you realize how many people on this board will legitimately and unironically grimace at the mention of something that's pretty much objectively good simply because it's also popular, the better. Don't break your brain trying to understand the rationale behind a person who isn't thinking much in the first place. These dudes are literally reacting to shapes and colors. Green number of metacritic, big number on steam chart, must dislike.

I unironically don't understand the shilling.

It's one of two things. Either:

1) Modern games are so fucking shit and zoomers are so used to playing this literal shit that when an actually decent game comes along it's like they're finally playing a video game for the first time in their entire lives. Like seriously, I wonder how many zoomers would sincerely describe E33 as "life changing" just because it was the first game they ever played that was raw unfiltered dogshit

or

2) It's free on gamepass, and it's getting shilled, so a lot of people who literally do not even play video games decided to try it out and they were like "oh my god, there are video games besides Fortnite and Genshin?"

Anon, I've played all your favorite hipster titles and basically, you are fucking retarded.

Please show me these older JRPGs it retreads. Because I've played almost all the classics and none come close to E33

he's still so far up his own asshole that he's either doubling down on his misunderstanding of a metaphor or literally can't understand it

(or, rather than "metaphor", maybe he'd prefer "an allusion to a trope", take your pick, you pedantic pseudointellectual autist)
I can't believe that seemingly the only reason this conversation is still happening is because an honest-to-god pseudointellectual got hung up on the semantics of a trope.

The only way to rate video games is within their genre. so this being a turn based jrpg then it's going to be judged against other games of that genre. Clearly no one that would not touch a jrpg is going to like it even if they try to play it. And as the main point of a video game is actually playing it, how exactly is talking about everything but the combat a good sign for any game? once you start getting misty eyed over soundtracks, cutscenes, parts of a story then you are really getting into movie type conversations. whilst any game with a story needs a good story, plot etc with no real flaw, we all know how movie games neglect actual video gameplay. But I digress, jrpg's have their fans and that is why this is being shilled as one of the best jrpg's - but it will be due to the story, the soundtrack, graphics and maybe because it was not made in Japan.

Because it’s simply the best JRPG ever made. Makes Kiseki, Panzer Dragoon Saga, Legend of Dragoon, all of Square’s catalog and anything Fatlus made all look like dogshit. You know why? Because it’s actually mature and well written rather than cringe anime dogshit.

You are right and I agree with you. This is the correct opinion to have. It's just an averagely good game. Don't listen to the shills.

shills shill because they get paid to, hth

qft

few months

1

It's not a metaphor midwit. It's a setting where magic exists and Aline magically created human or human-like intelligent lifeforms. The question is no longer solely about the fate of any dreamer, but complicated by the existence of these intelligent lives. I'm sorry you're too fucking stupid to realize that taking a semester of literature 101 didn't make you the authority in every discussion of fiction. It's not semantics. This is not """"""""""""just a dream"""""""""""" no matter how many quotes you put around it. You simply were wrong because you saw "thing" and said "this is surely other thing" without thinking, because you're not good at thinking.

And by the way, the term you're looking for is "allegory" and not "metaphor" retard

There's plenty of recency bias. It's good, definitely one of the better games to be released this year, but it's very hard to tell if you're playing one of the best games of all time right after it comes out. There's plenty about it to praise, and I think it'll be remembered as one of the best games to come out this year, but beyond that who knows?

It's not a metaphor midwit.

You really are just an excessively pedantic, pseudointellectual autist, caught in a loop of sticking his finger in his asshole and sniffing it, who is dead set on failing to understand every single thing that I say, simply because I said that Act III is bad and has been done before, because it's bad and has been done before.

I was referring to what *I* said as the "metaphor" or the "allusion to a trope", take your pick. You're playing a character right now, right? Like, you're not actually this much of a raging pseud in real life, are you?

The thing that was a "metaphor" or an "allusion to a trope" is when *I* said that "You're in a dream!" is *always* shit, no matter what.

The writing of this game ranks among the best in video games.
I'm talking about writing not story.
I say overall because some optional dialogues aren't quite as strong, but writing of the main quest is top-tier.

Every scene is constructed in a theatrical way. Meaning there's always an introduction, a source of tension between two characters, and a resolution that differs with how the scene was introduced.

Poorly written scenes, like in western garbage like Avowed or Dragon Age, lack this kind of tension between characters and exist only to dump information on the player. The characters rarely evolve in any way and the scene ends up serving no real purpose.
E33 never falls into over-exposition either like in most Jap games and makes great use of "show, don’t tell"
They clearly put a lot of effort into motion capture, with most of the subtext coming through simple glances, gestures, or well-timed silences.

The dialogues are very well written, not too long, not too short with well-dosed humor. Just about right. More importantly, they always stick to the characterization of whoever’s speaking. There’s also a lot of nuance and double meaning to them that I'm noticing more on my second playthrough. The voice acting is also excellent and elevates writing even more.

There’s also a lot more to be said about how the directing (here again Kino-tier) enhance the writing in this game.

Act III is shit because "You're in a dream!" tropes are always shit

ACTUALLY THEY'RE IN A PAINTING IDIOT

HOLY FUCKING MIDWIT YOU'RE SO STUPID

YOU DIDN'T EVEN UNDERSTAND THE STORY

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

IT'S ACTUALLY COMPLETELY DIFFERENT OKAY

YOU'RE NOT WHITE ENOUGH OR OLD ENOUGH TO GET IT

IT'S ONLY FOR PATRICIANS LIKE ME

I played this game right after playing Metaphor (which I also thought was great), I think something like that is the secret hack to understanding how good this game's writing is. Maybe it's easy to take it for granted when a story in a jrpg manages to not bore you or rip you out of its world constantly by dumping expository horseshit or having oddly-timed unnatural unfunny jap humor inserted constantly or something. If you actually play a japanese rpg, especially a modern one, then go straight into this it's fucking night and day. And I like jrpgs. I imagine a normalfag who doesn't usually like these games must think E33 is a miracle.

with most of the subtext coming through simple glances, gestures, or well-timed silences

This is honestly one of the most impressive parts of the game, the characters facial and eye animations are incredible for selling the struggles and depressing shit in a lot of scenes. It is massively let down by some really oddly bad lip syncing issues though, at least in English. Maybe French is better I don't know.

It's even worse in french.
The problem is that they recorded the motion cap with real time lipsync instead of using computer tools to generate it based on lines

>people are calling this one of the greatest games of all time after its only been out for a few months

Anon... look at it this way.
The bar to become one of the greatest games he been lowered so much by woke retards that anything haflway decent is considered one of the greatest games these days. Comapred to all the woke bullshit games in the past few years.... Expedition 33 looks like god's gift to humanity.

It was either that or you retards can eat up the "quadtriple A" game like Skull & Bones.

i was wrong on purpose

you wouldn't understand, it was a metaphor

*second post seething at the entire thread*

Like a yapping dog on a leash.

It is overrated. It's a fun game, but it fell short of in a lot of places. Flying waters is pretty much the most inventive environment in the game and the rest is just ruins slop, different colored trees and rocks. Considering the setting, they could've had a lot more flying waters styled areas.

god how do you insufferable faggots find a way to cry about woke shit at every opportunity even when it's not remotely fucking relevant

you literally did not progress further than act 1

I genuinely cannot even imagine being as much of a raging pseudointellectual as you are. You so desperately want to pass yourself off as smart instead of actually being smart that you refuse to move on from me referring to Act III by its trope, which is oh so very slightly different than it literally being a dream.

Even though I put it in quotes, which I thought would indicate that I was referring to it by its trope, but apparently you are somehow too smart to realize this. And even after being informed of your willful oversight, you are still somehow just way too smart to understand what I could have possibly been referring to.

didnt read all the other shit you two retards wrote, but calling it "a dream" is hilariously underselling what it is, considering multiple characters are happy to spend their entire lives in this place surrounded by "dream" people

this is kind of the point btw, the lives that exist in the dream are so far beyond what you'd consider not-existing that they think, feel, have emotions, senses of self, reactions to their own mortality and so on.

Lunes' absolutely seething stare at the final scenes of the game in Verso ending tell you everything you need to know about whether or not they exist, that little 10 second scene is absolutely full of feelings of betrayal, regret, acceptance, anger etc.

Never
youtube.com/watch?v=DIiZaNmo5qI

I finished the story.

the end of act 2 is superb. the beginning of the epilogue is trash. the rest of the game is good post-game content with a decent, if contrived, choose your own ending. it's definitely the best jrpg to date. arguably one of the best games to date. of all time? who can say.

I don't shit on it but it's a trick question, there are no 10/10s (or I've yet to play them).

but calling it "a dream" is hilariously underselling what it is

Not really. "You're in a dream!" is a bad trope that is detrimental to every narrative that it appears in. E33 would have been better with a different resolution. They could even have figured something out to keep it within the wheelhouse of typical French grief media, but they didn't, they took the copout trope.

Lunes' absolutely seething stare at the final scenes of the game in Verso ending tell you everything you need to know about whether or not they exist

Right, and I posted that .webm, which I ripped myself and was the first instance of that .webm existing on this website. The reason I chose that specific .webm in this post was to help illustrate to the rabid pseudointellectuals that I do know what I am talking about, despite their feeble and incontinent screeching, and still the disappointment of Act III can be accurately reduced to the "You're in a dream!" trope.

youtube.com/watch?v=k6IOl4GSKVM&ab_channel=webotaku

it's a bad trope because it just is ok

solipsistic epistemology and the ramifications of its potential are fundamental aspects of the human experience. reality is as clear and obscure as you choose to believe or disbelieve. just saying "it's detrimental" doesn't mean that it's detrimental. you're just a smart sniffing pseud npc parroting your programming.

I thought to myself "wow everything about this game is a solid 8/10. Soundtrack, gameplay, story but nothing is better than that" but by the end I upgraded gameplay, story, and world to a 9. Gets more beautiful once you can fly IMO

clear and obscure

pic related

"no u", despite being faced with the fact that I already knew and understood everything he said in his post, even all the way down to the Lune stare

Sad. I expected better of you. Kinda like I did with E33, which is why Act III was especially disappointing to me. The writing was good enough that I didn't think they'd resort to "You're in a dream!" but I was wrong. They did resort to that. Just because the dream is shown to have feelings doesn't make it somehow profoundly different.

I honestly don't have an issue with the biomes. What else could they have done? What are some games with better biome diversity?

you expected better of me than a plain truth that's existed throughout the recorded history of human philosophy in multiple civilizations? your problem isn't the quality of the game, it's the quality of your expectations. you "expected" e33 to obfuscate the attractiveness of a simple, constant, and meaningful existential insecurity with something contrived in a mask of cleverness. i agree with you about the quality of the epilogue, but they didn't resort to it's a dream, they used solipsism as a fundamental premise and the human tradition of dream-analog as a device for conveyance of the premise. you're a pseud and you want pseud things, because you mistake 'complicated' for 'cerebral'. some day you may even remember this exchange and laugh at how naive you are.

What are some games with better biome diversity?

Souls, but that's not even really fair because Souls is the best at that by a country mile. E33's are still really great though.

the reason i don't fault e33 for the bland and boring environments, is because not many other games have properly addressed how to give the player space while still maintaining aesthetic consistency. one thing i do believe deserves criticism, though, is the liberal reuse of and reliance on set props and trinkets as an attempt to mask the overall monotony of the environment designs. for instance, random lamps littered in almost every environment, whether on the ground or hanging in the air.

i think this is a core part of its success. it hit a part of players' brain that hasnt been activated since their first loved turnbased RPG--stance/idle animations during combat menus, attack animations, music during combat menus. characters breathing and lurching while you choose what next move to make. epic music in the background. they took inspiration from a lot of games that players loved and made it into something fresh and Western

a note on the music--its different than your generic Dark Opera Rock in that it has a distinct french tone to it, and I think that is another mark of success. Westerners appreciate other Western cultures that distinguish themselves bc its fresh and we got a lot of that here

solid game all around in a genre that was considered dead

Absolute reddit taste. Get the fuck out, tourist.

Man, im sick of these clair and obscure faggots. Their fights take forever and their timings and pure jank

F.E.A.R

So you want people not to like this game because SMRPG exists

How can they breathe underwater? Is this a ffx reference?

Act 2 is high kino
Act 3 drops the ball kind of hard with the writing but the post-game brings it back
9/10

SMTVV

So the fuck what? It's a great game. Stop trying to be a contrarian. Only a few games are perfect.

people are calling this one of the greatest games of all time

Nobody is seriously saying this

Name a better game faggot

OoT
Majora's Mask
Ninja Gaiden Black
RE4
RE2R
P5R
Soulcalibur
DoA2
Sonic 2
Sonic 3
Super Mario World
Super Mario 3
Super Mario 64
FF10
FF9
FF3
Suikoden 2
Halo
Halo 2
Halo 3
Morrowind
Skyrim
Mass Effect 2
Perfect Dark
Turok 2
Witcher 3
BG2
BG3
PS:T
Mercenaries 3
Fallout 2
BF:BC2
BF:1
KOTOR1

Elden Ring is literally "lets fill some open world map with random bosses".
I love From but ER is their weakest game design.

Nomura and Yoshi-P

Kitase above all needs to perform a dogeza at some major event because he's the one calling the shots for the franchise as a whole. I'm not excusing Nomura or Yoshi-P retardation, but I cannot believe how much this board lets him get away with it.

DQ11

they have the most fair timings in the game (every attack either releases after 1 sword charge or 2 for the heavies) but they definitely have too much windup

Based DKChad

elden ring is a well directed open world until raya lucaria. after that it loses direction and becomes a grab bag of chores and contrived obstacles.

Post songs that slapped you in the face the first time you heard them
youtube.com/watch?v=1Duwx1L3JYI

Verso has lied and manipulated their society for decades for the purpose of destroying the world

Everyone just accepts his apology and lets him back in at act 3

The writing in act 3 feels so rushed and sloppy

I fucking WONNED bros!

I'd rate it 9/10 because the writing has barely any plothole

No plotholes necessarily but it's riddled with characters acting like complete retards or robots
Maelle's level 7 link

21mil damage

you didn't win

Turn based

So you didn't actually play FF7, good to know

Tranime fan has no taste, color me shocked

There hasn't been a real 10/10 game in the past 20 years and that's the truth.

This song is way too good for a miniboss. I guess they didn't want to overuse it since it spoils the entire plot lol.

youtu.be/bBz0kKvMsyw?t=114

70% of that was overkill, marked virtuose gommage hits really hard

Why gimp yourself with Lune?

75000 dmg received

6 parries, 2 dodges

based bruteforcer

cope

next comes seethe

Love this one. So many songs had moments that had me like this

I guess it's just because I caught on from the very start the nature of the setting the game was set in, so after flying waters I expected more like that. Closest was Sirene and Alicia's tower. The rest as seen in that image is just different colored trees and rocks cluttered with props. It's not bad if you relate it to other games, but it did fall short of what I considered its potential.

Lune is sexy. I don't like Monoco's wheel shit and Scielle isn't as hot as Lune so I didn't want to use her.

You forgot the protagonist is very boring too

For me it's
youtu.be/6aMIr6KI0Xc?si=SJBtRX4ff9O8MpbQ&t=87

youtu.be/iwQR9i4Y6JY?t=163

That's unfair you compare with over 4 different games worth of content with this picture, E33 diversity is just as good as an y of those singled out.

monoco & 2 characters of your choice

for all

combo 1, 2, 3
cheater
charging attack
charging critical
greater rush
empowering attack
rush on powerful
shell on rush

for monoco

charging gradient

for all

speed/critical pictos

base attacks to build gradient 3. use monoco's gradient 3 to break simon. rinse & repeat. if you do it properly, simon should get at most 1-2 attacks.

that's winning, kiddo.

*Simon attacks at light speed*

whoops, i meant gradient breaker, not charging gradient. also, you can use gradient fighter & quick break, too.

youtube.com/watch?v=XZqGSLx6Oes&list=RDXZqGSLx6Oes

It's time to go home.

youtu.be/RdiffZfLfkQ?t=1668

the soundtrack is honestly way too stacked to pick a favorite but i really like the act 2 and 3 overworld themes

ohhhhhhhhh that's why it sounded familiar, interesting that they play simon's theme during this scene

Why do fans say this is an anti-pajeet game when it's on Gamepass, AKA the premier platform for jeets

the animation in this game is special. it's not technically perfect, but in substance it's superior to any other game i've played with regard to conveying human body language.

Final Fantasy XIII

youtube.com/watch?v=u2VKoynKctw&t=137s

It's funny that when I started playing this game I kept thinking of Shadowheart whenever Maelle spoke but I think Maelle's performance outdid even Shadowheart.
I'll probably be thinking of Maelle now whenever I hear Jennifer English from now on.

It's the cinematography. It's literally cinema tier. Compare these cutscenes to something like Dragon Age kek

youtube.com/watch?v=hHvwRImMuFY

I like Lampmaster, Monoco's Theme, and Clair-Obscur

Renoir did nothing wrong. Not a SINGLE thing

he cucked and let maelle have the painting. filial verso fixed it for him, though. verso did fix it for him, didn't he, anon?

nah he did some things wrong

crazy how a studio of 33 people can mog a multibillion dollar behemoth

He should have had more daughters

Aline would not have been mindbroken if it was Alicia who'd died in the fire btw

Aline's womb is infertile and renoir was pumping his hot loads every day into her until menopause, unfortunately even so their last kid was at 35 so the last 15 years were in vain
source: i asked the lead dev

Can you believe this song almost wasn't in the game, the director had to convince the the composer to keep it in
youtube.com/watch?v=IunbXWab1_Y

youtube.com/watch?v=s7-brNzwWT0

Maybe not exactly "slapped me in the face" but I idled in Esquie's Nest longer than any other area just for this song. It's so comfy

late act 2/act 3

What a normie way to shit on the premise of the game

this was the one that reminded most of an ffx song, except for the walk up to the monolith, which shares a partial melody with 'to xanarkand'.

What was the deal with the Goblu and the flowers anyway? I thought they were implying it was Sophie and the Nevros were gommaged people but I was totally wrong there.

Thought the same shit. It was a little distracting at first, but she was given much more chance to shine in this role than Shart. Honestly didn't realize she was this talented.

le every story needs to have universal importance

the entire theme of the story is deciding whether this universe and its inhabitants have meaning beyond being a painting, i'm glad the story is about a human family and their grief

Renoir's only crime was being the only remaining male in a family full of crazy bitches having woman moments

when this part starts playing during last Renoir fight

youtu.be/bvnAAgdgltQ?t=453
how is this specific vidya music called? sounds like some castlevania shit.

it's a good metaphor for how each member of a family constructs its own delusional reality to cope with tragedy, how that delusion stifles and leads to stagnation and sickness, and the material struggle of pragmatism struggling to overcome righteous indignation in order to lead rather than coerce. ironically, every 'real' family member fails to transcend their struggles, and it's the shared memory, 'fake' verso, who ultimately destroys the delusion.

The biggest fans of this game are old fucks who have played "all" the JRPGs in my experience.

Umineko's OST is similar.
I don't know what else to call it but neoclassical edm.

I don't know Clea was pretty based

All the all time greats are flawed as shit. Doubly so for RPGs. You know it's true.

it's definitely inspired by 80s japanese prog, which itself was a big collection of inspirations from jazz, neoclassical, fusion, power metal, and synth/electronic music.

I'm pretty sure I've played more JRPGs than 98% of this board and I fucking loved the game lol.
Granted I do play a lot of other genres and love action games so the parry/dodge mechanics is right up my alley.

I'm an oldfag who has played "all the JRPGs" and it sucks. I would sacrifice everyone who made this game, all its fans and the entire nation of France just to get a sequel to Panzer Dragoon Saga

at this point i would consider even these 8/10 threads bot behavior since this game should be 4/10

Thats a lie, classic CRPGs are mostly mid and play nothing like BG3
BG3 and to an extent DOS 1 & 2 are the only CRPGs i played with good gameplay, level design and game engine & systems.

I played about 12 Crpgs other than larian ones and i didn't found the amazing masterpieces Crpg shills yap about, maybe i should dig deeper.

DOS2 absolutely mogs E33 though, even as good E33 is.

Pathfinder: WOTR is arguably better than BG3

You should be killed for saying any of this. Actual African tier IQ.

I will never play this game because people call it a JRPG and it's not fuck you words mean things

I want to play Umineko but a 100 hour book filters me. Is the manga any good?

It's more of a JRPG then every Final Fantasy post FFX.

Umineko unironically isn't even good. Just read Higurashi if you want to experience Ryukishi writing.
Umineko has horrid pacing and an absolute dogshit final act.

I don’t play normalfag games like TLoU and I think EX33 is a masterpiece. It’s kinda what happens when you don’t have a faggot IQ.

8/10 for a jrpg is enough for people who were starved for one. All the recent final fantasies have been disappointments, then all of a sudden, a new studio comes out with a $50 game that actually has a compelling storyline, characters, good music, and an interesting artstyle.
It's getting attention because the state of modern jrpgs is so dire.

The VN is only like 60ish hours if you read at a decent pace and don't mind skipping voiced dialogue. But yes the manga is a good adaptation, great art and it trims down the story without skipping too much important shit.

Absolutely based anon fucking mogged that faggot

fuck no its not 'greatest of all time' its just a good game with an interesting setting/style/music

love anime/manga/nip games and EX33 fucking mogs the shit outa Japan right now

shilled metaphor and rebirth

yea you just got shit taste bud

we haven't had an actual final fantasy since like 2011 so you are surprised people are happy a new one came out after so many years?

b-but the action movie games called 15-16 and 7 remake

lol
lmao

This is the most blatant industry plant

You can call it one of the greatest games of the last 10 years sure, but it's been a rough 10 years.

the writing has barely any plothole

how about the fact that the plot is non-existant? the game starts and nothing happens until the end where they tell you the twist and nothing ever mattered, woah we got an undertale contender for reddit game of the year

It's like a slightly worse Lost Odyssey. It would be an 8/10 ten years ago, but today it's a 9.5

E33 is quintessential Reddit-core

high quality netflix series

high quality

netflix series

LMFAO
HBAO+

Unless you played the game on mute with subs off and skipped all cutscenes there's no way you genuinely believe the garbage you just posted.

ask me how I know you're brown

no arguments

guess you concede then

Was I rugpulled on Simoso? People were shilling this weapon and you get it from superboss but it's weaker than my old Corpeso burn build

If its redditcore, 4 of the 5 members would had been (moroccian)

He deserved to live. There were too many women in the party imo.

Bullshit

All games that have been made and will be made are JRPGs. Good luck finding a new hobby, bucko.

Yeah, I'm sure the industry really loves having to explain to their money-bags why they need 300-600 people on their teams while some french fucks with barely any experience make do with less than 50.

Post-game Verso is a supportcuck for Maelle. You will never match her damage.

this

It is the strongest argument I have ever seen for why games should be considered high art.

no bullshit is this game good?
never played final fantasy before

he hasnt hit act 3

Ultrakino especially if you like JRPGs of the SNES/PS1 era

this and mgs2

easy combat

hardly any parts where you get stuck due to dungeons or areas being confusing

Those are negatives.

It's due to the way the mocap was done. They did this to cut costs (getting Charlie Cox to do mocap would be wayyyyyyyyy more expensive than paying a literally who to do mocap and pacing Charlie just for VA work), hopefully they'll do full mocap of the actors in the sequel. They're filthy rich now, they can afford it.