I think that the actual significance of this game being a hit is showing that there's a market for JRPG gameplay...

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I think that the actual significance of this game being a hit is showing that there's a market for JRPG gameplay...

I think that the actual significance of this game being a hit is showing that there's a market for JRPG gameplay divorced from JRPG storytelling.

JRPGs as they currently exist are kind of an interactive extension of the anime industry. There's subtle differences, but not enough to differentiate the audiences much. And that's fine, anime is a growing medium and people like the games that are getting made. But there's a huge audience of people who play video games who aren't gonna show up for coming of age stories about ridiculously clothed teens with technicolor hair, high pitched voices, poor communication skills etc.

It's incredibly healthy for the gameplay structure to be divorced from the art and storytelling expectations that have gotten so entrenched. There's no reason for them to have to be a package deal. Games like Expedition 33 will lead to a wider audience playing this style of game, which will lead to more and different developers taking chances making these games, which leads to a more diverse and vibrant scene overall.

Meanwhile Atlus will continue making Persona "my self insert high school anime fantasy" and Square Enix will continue making Kingdom Hearts games about the power of friendship and light overcoming darkness. Falcom will never make a game about a character older than 19. The games that were already getting made are not at all under threat, there's no downside.

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In no way was the game divorced from JRPG storytelling.

It lacks the weeb animeisms

idk the story felt very much inspired by FF9 and FF10
if final fantasy hadn't fallen for the retarded AAAA corpobloat "let's take 10 years to make a game" meme, anime tropes wouldn't be considered so ubiquitous in JRPGs, but besides them it's true that none of the japanese studios making RPGs seem interested in doing original imaginative stories dissociated from the tried and true shonen anime template

The main takeaway is that anime and its inherent tropes are cringe and need to stop.

inspired by, but it lacks tropes that JRPGs copy paste to games generally

It's more of a demand for JRPGs that are actual JRPGs. No one with a brain wants ARPGs.

there's a market for JRPG gameplay divorced from JRPG storytelling.

What the fuck is a JRPG story? A story that has crystals, mana trees and teenagers saving the world or some shit?

You are retarded.

gameplay

lol its just a visual novel with QTEs its not gameplay

People juts cream themselves over muh french muh painting

Not to mention that E33 has at least half of those tropes.

To me it just signals that squeenix is retarded for throwing away 3-5 niggas in a line turn based combat.
It wasn't the combat that made people sick of their games. It was something else. Or maybe they just weren't doing enough to freshen the experience. 33 does some interesting stuff with the character gimmicks and parry stuff (though its not perfect, its quite flawed). Squeenix was just so creatively bankrupt, so stuck in a rut they failed to innovate. The Frogs, with an outside perspective were able to freshen up the formula enough that it became interesting again

GOTY

The whole reason this game is beloved is due to it having real time QTE combat.

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Its still 3-5 niggas in a row. Not whatever the fuck FF 12, 13, 15 and 16 were.

That shit is boring as fuck, FF7 has way more action and reaction, switching between characters as needed.

This game has plenty of jarpig tropes even the gnosticism. It just has a different aesthetic and the characters are not (all) teenagers.

It’s not even divorced from the storytelling. “All old people are dead” is the most animepedo premise imaginable. It’s just about literally not having that ugly, lazy, dogshit sub-calarts style that is “””anime”””.
It’s literally just the first JRPG ever made that doesn’t look like bottom of the barrel SHIT.

So realistic art style and production values are the big reasons for the attention it's getting?

Games like Expedition 33 will lead to a wider audience playing this style of game, which will lead to more and different developers taking chances making these games, which leads to a more diverse and vibrant scene overall.

Completely false garbage

wow a wider audience will be interested

so more companies will make more dumbed down widest possible reach designed games that are dogshit

This is not a positive outcome, it does not benefit me in any way. In fact it negatively affects me, because traditional jrpgs will see this wider audience garbage and also try to cater to it by dumbing and watering their product down.
You can tell you are not an actual jrpg fan the second you say "coming of age stories" let alone anything that follows, because half the characters and half the protagonists in jrpgs end up being in their early 20s, not 16.

Falcom will never make a game about a character older than 19

Adol has been over 19 for half of his fucking games, stop being retarded. He started at 17, he aged throughout the series, he is now 24 in the most recent games.
Anime is good, jrpgs are good, anime and jrpg tropes are good and exist consistently for a reason

A story that has crystals, mana trees and teenagers saving the world

you've just described literally every single jrpg made after shadowhearts covenant

Yeah, it’s just persona 6: mocap

FF7 has way more action and reaction, switching between characters as needed.

You are an adhd braindead retard who can't survive a second without mashing something or the screen juttering between different views
This is not "ff7" retard, this is remake, and it's bad sorry. Actual ff7 was good

It’s literally just the first JRPG ever made that doesn’t look like bottom of the barrel SHIT.

but it absolutely looks like shit what are you on about, it is not possible to make a good looking game on ue5 in the first place even if they knew how; which they didn't because their design is lacking visually in a lot of places

You are an indecisive kike who cannot make split second decisions when required. It is FF7 because the dude who made the games envisions it that way. New FF7 is better.

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no one wants more arpg slop

Hit the road Jack your allotted shilling time is up

Play Odyssey

If it's not turn-based I'm not buying it. E33 is GOTY.

Gib Lune

Intercourse with Mme. Lune

it's a plot that's lifted almost beat for beat from multiple existing jrpgs
there's just a drought of competition since the rest of the jrpg market either fell for the actionslop meme or is churning out garbage like falcom

It wasn't the combat that made people sick of their games. It was something else

We knew that since FFX. Hell ffxiii sold well and it was also turned based

there is a market for selling JRPGs to people who don't like JRPGs

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FF7 has ATB just like the remakes. It's a literal perfect evolution of the origina's combat and I cannot understand how supposed fans cannot see it.

I long for the day the soulslike or whatever you wanna call it divorces from the DARK FANTASY, nobody does it half as good as from and its so boring done badly

I want Magical Girl souls

the main takeaway is that people are bored and need something to fill the time until diablo 3 season 35 (launching friday june 6th)

Anon can't read kek

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