Bungsissis i don't feel so good

not really, average opinion on it seems really bad.
It's a very niche appeal, and by niche i mean the coked up pretentious avangarde artiste kind of niche

that was anthem iirc

This looks like a minigame mode in destiny that no one liked, but as the entire game. Now with losing your shit!

Destiny was bad even behind the scenes. You move a barrel on one of the maps? the engine now needs 36 hours to rerender the entire thing by stitching everything back toegther to create one giant object from scratch. Its fucking absurd.

"shit we need to make a new game what do we do"

"oh hey extraction shooter seems to be a popular new genre, if we jump on this while it's hot maybe we can really make some money"

six years later it's not so hot

This game probably would've had more attention if it was a fucking GTFO style thing of a co-op shooter throwing players into the Marathon with some serious dick-punching challenge. Lethal Company style games of "bunch of friends throw themselves into crazy bullshit" are the trend now.

I just dont know why Bungie never made a horror game. From the introduction of the flood to the first time you run into the hive in the dark under the radio dish station they can pull off some pretty nice spoopy moments. With so many multiplayer horror games with cash shops like dead by daylight, parawhateverthefuck and the like its shocking they never made a smaller scale shooter where you are just four man squadding some scp shit.

its ogre.

Eventually you'll realize that marketing isn't trying to sell you shit games, but that shit games sell you marketing, i.e.: pad traffic and engagement -- they are little more than onboarding schemes to consultation rackets, e-grifting parasocialites and digitial daycare-botfarms.
The industry has been captured by PR gremlins. These PR gremlins cultivate an unsustainable economy of lies: they sell problems, rent out solutions (marginally smaller problems) and deceive everyone -- shareholders, developers, customers and players. They don't care about the quality or reception of the product, they don't care about what you believe, love or hate and they don't care to convince you of anything. The more controversy, the better for them.

Their final goal however is to distract and placate you, while high finance (read: their owners, banksters) turns your passions and lifetime into vacuous commodities.

be PR gremlins

gaslight publisher into whipping developers into frenzy to create super-slop

gobble up the majority of the "development" budget, recommend hiring nepotists

proliferate more slop to e-grifting parasocialites to fan the flames

hype a product you know will fail miserably, gaslight customers and shareholders with predatory marketing

reinvest a fraction of your hyper-bloated budget and buy copies through subsidaries and at a discount to gaslight everyone some more, after padding stats shortterm refund to ruin them longterm

simultaneousely shill for and against the product to maximize controversy and thus traffic, engagement and demand of your service and that of your buisness partners, such as consultation rackets

eventually come out of it being the sole profiteer, blaming publishers, developers, customers, players and e-grifting parasocialites for your doing

In other words: if you're a shareholder of a publisher or developer studio instead of an investor to a marketing agency, then you are a barely functional lobotomite.

realistically how can they recover from this?

I hate gaming so much these days. What the fuck do you mean they changed the gameplay so it will look more appealing on streams? Fucking hell

Either they sell because they're Bungie and people somehow didn't learn from Destiny 2 to eat it up or are just THAT desperate for something to play on PS5 - or they don't, Sony takes another big hit, and Bungie sinks. Simple as.

I-IT WAS NEVER ABOUT SELLING THE GAME CHUD

NO PROXIMITY CHAT "WE DONT HAVE A SOLUTION FOR TOXICITY YET"

The solution to "toxicity" is thick skin. The only way to implement thick skin as developer is to provide people means to develop it themselves with a hands-off approach to communication. If someone wants to be a little bitch, they can utilize the myriad features that enable a DIY-hugbox (block/ignore/ghosting functions).
If you cannot be bothered to use the tools you are provided, no level of moderation will ever "help" you, as being a little bitch is evidently "your thing".

if i remember right, it's not for streams, but because they really want to encourage the pvp fights. it was something along the lines of

we removed solo queues (no teams for anyone) because everybody would stealth about and avoid getting into firefights, so we removed that to increase the focus on teams and thus made stumbling into fighting npcs and player encounters more likely

They might be able to salvage their day 1 if they read what people have been posting and switch to f2p. But there is still no sustain and Sony wants to make their money back. This is the same pitfall for concord. They need the box product money (the guarantee) and they need it now.

Protip: if you want people to read your post, don't use all caps.

Extraction shooter

I've literally never heard this term prior to a week ago. What happened to Looter Shooter?

Online only games should follow the Free with MTX model.
That way players only spend money if they're actually playing the game long term.
It also makes more money overall.
Having a box price is stupid when you're also going to do the MTX shit, MTX works on a basis of having tons of players and you're never going to build that base while having a box price, unless you're selling a game that's from an established franchise with a fanatical fanbase.
Having a box price is a mistake for almost any GAAS.
It's the sort of hedging that causes you to fail.

Not that I'd play it either way, but it's still dumb.

please just go back

I-IT WAS NEVER ABOUT SELLING THE GAME CHUD

Oh, for all the low-caste employees and shareholders of the gaming companies it is -- but they are just waging debtcattle to be exploited by PR gremlins and their owners. I mean that the way I've stated it in the pasta. Game sales are irrelevant to this industry, as this industry has stopped being about games at the very latest in 2012.
It's comparable to any other industry, for example: sports. It doesn't matter what sportsball you cheer on, it doesn't matter what team is winning or losing. It doesn't even matter whether or not anyone is attentively and passionately (or at all) watching. The only thing that matters is that someone is arguing about it. Because once people argue about it they'll engage it, they'll crave the controversy -- controversy is exclusively sold by PR gremlins.

Shooters are designed for sweats to make stream "content" for children to watch as their parents ignore them.

The last good fps was Titanfall 2, and thats getting a extraction shooter reboot. The dream is ogre.

schlooters require building hubs, narratives, a world. extractions let you take a scrapped pvp map and make the players literally farm it for drops like god farming bots in world of warcraft and be convinced its a real videogame for a lot less time and effort.

I want to thank whoever greenlit this shit. You will keep me laughing until the end of the year.

I wasn't sure I would have anything good to make fun of and watch fail after AC:S, but bungie has come through for me

CONCORD 2 BABY

God I wish Marathon would be good.
I want nothing more for bungie to show me that they can fucking deliver on gameplay and feel.
But I just can't see it. No matter how hard I look, I just can't find the spark that Destiny 1 had.
At least Destiny 2 still had the Destiny aesthetic but Marathon doesn't even have that. From what they described their inspirations to be, I should be fucking all over the style of this game but all I see is meh.
It fucking hurts.

What do you guys make of the music?
Apparently this is what the soundtrack will be like
youtube.com/watch?v=ImLoi3fHF34
Personally, I think this sounds good. If it was a story focused game.

this

but the left's goal is to control ALL communication, so they can't allow an organic community to grow anywhere

Turns out having decade long development cycles and a mentality of copying the most recent trends is a bad business model.

Gambit was the best part of Destiny, then they deleted half the maps and removed all the role-mechanics

This sounds like songs gen alpha take drugs and dry hump each other to as they cry knowing they will be the last humans live as the boomers have killed the planet.

AssCancer:Shilldom has been situated well within the uncanny valley of slop. It's so outrageously blatant, bad and effectively self-decrepetating, that it ever so slightly -- infinitesimally, if you will -- phases through the hills on either sides of the valley into the good, by virtue of it's fourth-wall breaking, self-flaggelating and -emasculating turbofaggotry.

Looter Shooters required a constant churn of new content in the form of loot and bosses to kill it from.

Extraction shooters let you farm infinite content on the same few maps and enemies. Problem is 90% of the fun of any game like this is interacting with people in the field, and there's no proximity chat so it's DOA

It wouldn't even be that fucking bad if it weren't for the increasingly rising fact that most modern studios are horrifically managed, Bungie being one of many examples. Bad management = misappropriated effort and coordination = lack of proper direction = aimless time wasted running in circles trying to find one. We all know that something happened to Marathon's development, a lot of shit's changed since the reveal trailer to now, and this is on top of the big Sony buyout and Destiny 2 folding on itself hard.
This sort of problem wouldn't be so prominent if these studios weren't stuck being jerked around by execs and leads shifting around all the time, dumb hiring policies for contractors like Microsoft's 18 month shit, and fresh interns that have no idea what they're supposed to be doing half the time.

The Game Director did an interview with ShillUp and when asked what was innovative about Marathon, they said the social features. When asked to elaborate, he said you could revive downed teammates. Shit's DOA.

Unironically innovative for the genre, most Extraction shooters are mudcore autism fests

Man this game could be the star of a show called "Game I dont give a shit about"

This character has the same appeal as a crasth test mannequin.

you can kill downed players so it's ultimately a useless feature

kino soundtrack tho
youtube.com/watch?v=LL-55_0W7xA

what does this game have to do with Marathon? is it even set in the same universe or is it a Prey situation where they're just reusing a name for retarded reasons?

I mean, it is different to some small degree: you revive them like it's a battle royale, whereas other extraction shooters currently (I dunno about Hunt) just kill a player on the spot and they're lobbied. One guy surviving to revive his team is a bit of a potential tide turner.
But at that point you might as well MAKE A FUCKING PVP GAME INSTEAD OF EXTRACTION.

They also said that they're putting the story in the game in a way you'd expect from dark souls or elden ring, to be found and pieced together by the players. And hope youtubers to just make videos about it so they don't have to do it themselves.

And I wish one of them would've asked about their artistic inspirations for the style and why none of their art looks anything like their inspirations.

you can kill downed players so it's ultimately a useless feature

You can still revive a killed player. There's never a point where you can't be revived anymore, except when there's nobody left to revive you.

Unironically innovative for the genre

Not at all, Delta Force's extraction shooter mode let's you revive downed teammates.
In fact, so does Mecha Break's, and those are both F2P Chinese games.

Apparently your team can revive you even if your body gets killed. They run up to your backpack and bring you ass back to life somehow.

same universe, apparently 70 years after the original game, that weird asteroid rock station in the cinematic trailer is the UESC Marathon itself somehow, and one of the goals someone noted in their faction bounties was to kill 10 compilers. presumably this is some attempt to create a successor story that's mostly delivered through faction bounty and item info + seasonal context. they even got one of the OG writers back for it. but this genre REALLY doesn't support any real in-depth storytelling whatsoever.

I mean that's... for some people... you know? That could be hot

If game kept all of the extraction elements but removed the PvP it'd be a goldmine. There is a big market for sweaty PvE players but nobody with a job wants to get mogged by gigachad NEETs who play 24/7 and have a plethora of great gear. It's the same problem in Dark and Darker. At least Tarkov you can land a headshot and equalize the fights but with shields in Marathon it doesn't look possible.

oh cool, thank you

What the hell went through their minds when they decided

Yea, let's tell our story through items you pick up in the game and you can only get those items at certain times. And if you weren't playing at that time, fuck you.

I just don't understand...

The same thing that made them do it with Destiny and Destiny 2.

Didn't play our game at the time a major character revelation or worldbuilding shift happened? Fuck off to Youtube bitch.

Jason Jones and Greg Kirkpatrick are the only noted writers for Marathon. Neither are writing for NuMarathon.

Sure that's one thing. But now they made it even worse???

Even after a headshot? This game is getting more stupid by the minute.

Who the hell is everyone calling the writer then?

destiny was pve
so retards who play fps pve games would enjoy that
this is more pvp grind with no levels and w/e

they said the social features

Game won't even have proximity chat

??????????

Even after a headshot, entering the downed state and being exploded with a shotgun to the face and entering the dead state.
When you're dead your corpse basically turns into a duffle bag. And dead players can always be revived at their bags. Downed players can still crawl. Bags can't.

Presumably you can kill someone with a solid sniper headshot, but yeah, otherwise this is pretty Destiny/Halo TTK without bullshit exotic weapons accounting, so you need to pop shields and then most of a mag into someone to seriously down them. About 2 seconds of consistent damage I think? Big thing is shields don't auto-replenish, you need items for them just like for health, so any damage is lasting.

Bungo can only do soundtrack even the worse of Destint has had kino music

Whoever has been writing Destiny last 10 years maybe 5 years ?

can you one shot people in apex?

They don't work with O'Donnell anymore, haven't for some years I think.

With a Kraber(50. Cal sniper from tf2) yes

No idea. Jason Jones does still work at Bungie but we have no idea how much he has done regarding Marathon. Here is the team for Marathon Infinity which was outsourced to Double Aught (half ex-Bungie employees). None of these people work for Bungie in 2025 as far as anyone knows.

out of the loop

see this game

think it's not that bad for an indie game that's probably $30 tops

fucking bungie

kek

So, basically, high skill players that can pull off headshots are effectively punished in this low-skill game? I "love" shooters with guns that require multiple headshots, lel. Makes the guns feel really powerful but I guess most players have not enough situational awareness to avoid parts of the map that gets them sniped.

you find a gun, where'd you get that gun man? thats YOUR story!

I remember jeff gerstmann quoting this shit from them when he interviewed them about the destiny beta..

if this was some fucking free to play indie game from 5 years ago, maybe it had a chance

Apparently a guy named Jonathon Goff is the worldbuilder dude, he did Halo Headhunters and Destiny stuff. Trying to find more info but Google isn't giving me shit worthwhile at all.

I specifically remember some shit like that with the whole 10 year story thing.
My Pocket Infinity didn't even make it through the first fucking game

yeah. Let's hope "out of action" comes out soonish to let us scratch the GitS combat itch with guns that don't feel like toys.

Basically, yes.
I don't know who said it but it's like bungie is trying to remove all the friction from getting into the game and they don't realise that the friction is what the core audience (the people who would keep playing the game for a long time) play the game for.

3 maps at launch is insane, they really expect people to buy it on an empty promise during an economic recession? They don't have the goodwill built up for that.

you revive them like it's a battle royale

extract shooters are battle royales

serious question; do you need PSN+ subscription on top of buying this game to play on a PS5.

Considering it's PvPvE and online-only, yes

yes

Gerstmann would later go on a rant going "WHO CARES, THERES LIKE SIXE GUNS THAT MATTER THAT DROP FROM LIKE TWO THINGS!" and he was at maximum vinegar levels about it then.

I like the 3D printed plastic aesthetic, any other games using it?

Apparently a guy named Jonathon Goff is the worldbuilder dude, he did Halo Headhunters and Destiny stuff.

The issue is that Halo/Destiny writing is nothing like Marathon writing. Marathon is intentionally enigmatic and crpytic but not in a "YouTuber video essay bait" type way while also telling a more surface level story at the same time. There's just no chance they get it right.

They have specifically said "we want you to go to youtube for the story" i am not fucking kidding or lying to you man this shit is cooked.

It really sucks that a lot of artist talent is being wasted on something like this. If you look at the team's Art Station accounts, there's a lot of really cool looking stuff but unfortunately a lot seems to have gotten watered-down into what you actually see in the game

100% DoA

no prox chat because we can't solve toxicity

What is with modern developers being so mind-shatteringly retarded and obsessed with babying players like some nanny?
1. Add a mute button
2. Provide settings for all chat VOIP, Team VOIP or no VOIP.
This "issue" already has solutions. If someone gets e-bullied over comms for dying, it's player agency for whatever setting they want applied. No wonder games are so dogshit these days, these idiots are stuck on non-problems.

They have specifically said "we want you to go to youtube for the story

kek it's over

Here's the bit
youtu.be/eGvZtFJARaM?si=jKt-E2GuZhv2CGFK&t=1446
I just can't. None of this makes sense. It's insane, I'm going insane.

I feel like this guy has a better understanding of the artstyle that bungie is going for than bungie itself
machine56.com/product/arm-grid-6_scouter

NO SOLO MODE "PEOPLE IN TESTING PLAYED IT LIKE A STEALTH GAME AND THATS BAD TO WATCH ON STREAM" -YES BUNGO SAID THIS

Is there a source for this? I'd like to see it if possible.

It's like none of these bungie higher up have ever seriously played any non-casual game, lel.
Fucking MBA suits ruining gaming to get a bonus to impress people they couldn't give two shits about.

The removing friction bit is such a dumb take from them. Don't these knuckle-heads know that games that are too easy get boring? If they had played any game they would know that games, especially RPGs are the most fun when one is still learning the game and is struggling to win fights like in the beginning of KCD2. The first few hours are the most frustrating but also the most rewarding when one finally beats the first mob to get the first armor set.

But then again, maybe they're only interested in the initial player-count instead of a healthy long-term player-base?

see taken from a hiddenxperia video mind you, but then that guy's being an obnoxious fanboy and some of these previewers have conflicting info

a lot of artist talent

Truly pretentious.

Imagine a Helldivers like Marathon about dropping into Tau Ceti and following the breadcrumbs of the events that happened centuries prior to your arrival, unraveling what the Phfor are, what they want, how Durandal fucked them over by subverting the S'pht and the existence of the Mjornir Mark IV cyborgs.

There's season 1 one a story that could span years. Drop hints about Strauss, MIDA and the conspiracy. Jjaro artifacts, the fact the Marathon was secretly sent to study Jjaro relics, the Pfhor being called to Tau Ceti by Durandal and all this shit leading to you discovering FTL travel and 100 different storylines leading across the Tau Ceti system blasting off the protagonists to Lh'owon for the sequel. Marathon is known for two things, the story and mouse aiming. Everyone does mouse aiming now so all it has going for it is the bizarre and insane esoteric Elder Scrolls in space style metastory and they just forgot about it to shit out some gay ass hero shooter no one gives a fuck about. They should have gone all in on Marathon Durandal and Infinity's artstyle. This artstyle is offensive to the senses. It looks like it's giving me troon laden neon green seizure and I can't see shit beyond the HUD.

Marathon should have been a fps coop shooter about a second colonization attempt gone fucking mad as each season has you piecing together what the fuck happened centuries before you arrived with Marathon lore being dripfed as fodder for 1000 lore videos on youtube.

The second guy from the left can barely disguise his disdain for the director and this sad excuse of a game, lel.

Halo Reach

Campaign, Firefight, Forge, MP + Invasion Mode, each with several maps

Marathon

1 Mode with 3 maps

How the mighty have fallen

Drop hints about Strauss, MIDA and the conspiracy. Jjaro artifacts, the fact the Marathon was secretly sent to study Jjaro relics, the Pfhor being called to Tau Ceti by Durandal and all this shit leading to you discovering FTL travel and 100 different storylines leading across the Tau Ceti system blasting off the protagonists to Lh'owon for the sequel

Nu-Bungie couldn't even pull off anything close to this. Even in 2013 they couldn't pull off a story for Destiny and had absolutely no idea of what the endgame would look like for the Traveller, the Darkness or any of that shit that initially seemed so significant to the suckers that held the bag.

I doubt more than 2% of nu-Bungie's staff have even actually played Marathon 1 let alone finished the trilogy and tried to explore the secret terminals and lore surrounding it.

They managed to make an undead service.

I'm so glad Bungie didn't continue Halo. All the shit ideas were coming from them. That fucking rancid Halo mmo that was about to ruin the lore. Destiny being obviously the way they wanted to expand the Forerunner. All these scummy practices in their games.
Fuck Bungie.

Well that would've been cool and all but helldivers 2 wasn't a thing back when they started this project, so they had to copy another game that was popular during that time. And for some reason they ended up on tarkov.

all of this shit

You din't even play any of the games. You don't actually care about anything you're talking about. You're talking about things that you don't understand that have already been explained or don't matter in the setting anymore. Kill yourself.

People unironocally blame 343 for making humans not the Forerunners when all the hints the two species were different started on their watch.

Guilty Spark can say 'you are Forerunner' 100x, it doesn't undo the annoying potato eating mick who wrote the terminals writing Britian out of existence of Halo's story because of Brexit sayi g oger and over again that they aren't before Spark gets to drop that line.
There is no counter to this from the fags who swear Bungie made humans to be Forerunners. They wanted to do it, but if they wanted to do it and didn't, then it's not canon. Frank O'Connor wrote the terminals for Halo 3. Humans clearly aren't Forerunners in the terminals. The only explanation I hear to fix this is 'Terminals aren't canon because O'Connor is a fucking idiot.' I agree he's an idiot but that makes Bungie retarded for letting him write the terminals without oversight. Being retarded doesn't make what he wrote non-canon. It makes Bungie retarded for letting him completely undermine them in the terminals. It makes them retarded for cutting Halo 2's original ending where there can be no ambiguity about humans being Forerunner.

Blaming 343 entirely for this fuck up is like blaming each individual Star Wars director for the current state of the franchise but refusing to blame Kathleen Kennedy. Yeah, they fucked up, but at some point you got plenty of blame to go around. Just because 343 is fucking garbage doesn't change the fact Bungie was losing sight of what Halo was already by Halo Reach being a giant CoD clone.

The only explanation I hear to fix this is 'Terminals aren't canon because O'Connor is a fucking idiot.' I agree he's an idiot but that makes Bungie retarded for letting him write the terminals without oversight

It wasn't just him, it was a small team of people that would carry on to 343. This was literally the start of them planting the seeds to become what they did. And considering all the shit Bungie was handling on top of a tremendous upscale in company size just to avoid Halo 2's massive cuts and troubled development problems again, yeah, losing some oversight over one of your big leads inserting his fanfic into your game in super secret text terminals somewhere is not that hard to see.

You din't even play any of the games. You don't actually care about anything you're talking about. You're talking about things that you don't understand that have already been explained or don't matter in the setting anymore. Kill yourself

Damn, you're right. As I read those words, my memories of breezing through Marathon Durandal on the XBL arcade 15 years ago just started vanishing from my brain. Me blowing through Marathon Infinity and the original Marathon right up until the switch puzzle on Colony Shop for Sale? Gone. They must have never happened. Cause that's how it works when you tell someone else about what they remembe, right you fucking retard?

You're going to be laid off lol. I unironocally look forward to seeing this game fail and Bungie gutted as a result. Sony wasted their money.

fucked up part? destiny was already referencing marathon, including name dropping strauss on some exotic somewhere or some shit. they've been planning this for ages.

Bungie is dead, let them go.

Hey, they were too busy virtue-signaling by making themselves tyranny-necklasses out of Lego TM, ok? How are they supposed to get acquainted with things pertaining to their jobs doing all that?

I'm not a shill. I hope numarathon burns and crashes like it's supposed to.
The problem I have is that you don't even know what the fuck the Pfhor are or why they did what they did. You don't know what the Jjaro are. Why the S'pht aided Durandal. All which are things explained in Marathon 1.
I know you're just shitposting about hypotheticals but at least educate yourself on th subject first.

this is such a shame. i should be calloused by now, but i never thought marathon would get twisted into something like this.

Security CHAD demolishing these fucks when

Chat has it ever been this over before?

Fuck this, I'll replay the Trilogy to forget about this colossal let-down of a "game". All three are available on steam for free including mods to make it easier on my old eyes.
"Get me out of here!"
t bob

You don't know what the Jjaro are. Why the S'pht aided Durandal. All which are things explained in Marathon 1.

When the ever loving fuck did I say any of that? Did you assume just because I said Marathon lore should be mined for youtube bait to drive up engagement that I don't already fucking know?

Nigger, what, in your mind, is the point of an adaptation when the original already exists? When someone bitches about, say, Game of Thrones, and says "They should have kept in Jon Connington and Young Griff" do you hear that and somehow conclude that they must not know who those characters are?

"Hurr, if you knew who they were then why would you want to see their story told? You clearly didn't read the book otherwise you wouldn't want to see it."

Yes you are a shill cause under this logic I can totally fucking see why adaptations, reboots and distant sequels and so on intentionally go out of their way to change everything.

I'm gonna pick it up simply because it looks mildly interesting visually. If I can do solo rat shit while getting the Marathon "lore" then even better.

You forgot

ADS SLOP

bungie, the company that basically standardized how FPS games should play on consoles

24 years later, they have absolutely fucking nothing new to bring to the table and just do the exact same shit as everyone else while hoping "that Bungie spit and shine" makes them stand out

i'm tired bros

They NEED to show off maps that don't have the volumetric fog aka anti-soul gas. I like a good weather pattern as much as the next dude but you really need to show off the environments with previews that really make them stand out.

They literally said in the gameplay reveal trailer that there's a solo mode where you can go against 3 stacks.

GIRUGAMESH

Who the fuck wants to go solo in a game not balanced for it against other teams? Anyone that has ever played a modern FPS can instantly tell you, the moment you fight even a 2v1 if you're exposed to both enemies for a second you just die, never mind 3v1.

This.
Visual style reminds me of Synthetik.
Too bad it's a fucking extraction shooter. I spent countless hours in Halo: React, and then those faggots in Bungie made Destiny. Gunplay was good but that braindead grindy looter shooter is made for autists who willing to repeat same shit over and over again just to see a different color on the same gun and the numbers go up. Couldn't think it could possibly get worse but here we are. I fucking hate modern gamers. The worst thing is the art style looks really interesting and shooting/moving mechanics will probably be good to. If it wasn't for that I wouldn't pay any attention to it. But cool visuals only amplify the wasted potential. Why couldn't it be an arena shooter? Where everything gone so horribly wrong.

shieeeeeeeet my runnas

Every extraction shooter has a solo mode and you usually just play stealth mode or if you wanna actually pvp you ambush them while they're distracted.

Runners are cheap easily disposable cyborgs basically

Waste time and energy making unique bodies for each

Not buying it. It's not like the Mjölnir cyborgs from the original.

Couldn't think it could possibly get worse but here we are.

This is a massive upgrade from Destiny pseudo MMO dogshit. Yeah I'd rather it be a single player game but extraction shooter is way more interesting than whatever destiny is.

what's wrong with ADS, boomer?

At least Destiny had team deathmatch. This is infinitely worse.

You fucking retards extraction shooters were popular 5 years ago. Nobody plays tarkov anymore, it's either monster hunter or abortnite

Not that anon but ADS is usually useless and is a tacked on feature to basically make you move slower while tightening your crosshair which would be the equivalent of crouch-shooting in other shooters.

As someone not too familiar with extraction shooters but get some of the gist of them, do they even have NPC enemies? If they do, is it usually PvPvE most of the time?

yeah, what happens is that as soon as you randomly shoot pve every squad will rush to your location and fuck your ass while you're engaged with pve/ or the other squad that came for you.
While you also get shot by pvetrash.
Peak fun

There was a brief period where that was true

iirc the starting gun had a low level and was meant to be replace immediately by higher level drops. But non-iron-banner, non-trials pvp evened out everyone's levels and the starting gun had the best ttk in its class, or it was tied for best ttk but had less recoil or something like that. And it wasn't on the loot drop tables, but most people had just trashed it within the first few minutes of playing, so it wasn't obtainable.

It resolved eventually, Bungie either made it re-obtainable or added another gun with similar stats or something, this was forever ago.

oh no I can't just ADHD jump around corners with perfect accuracy

Oh no?

People really need to stop acting like companies are people.
How much of the staff that worked on halo is working in bungie these days? 10%? Less%? It's like when obsidian touts "from the makers of new vegas" after chasing away the people that worked on it.

Add pure PvE and make it 4-20 player coop and it will sell.

Look how popular Tarkov PvE is.

It won't be free. Sony has it that free games don't require ps+ to access multiplayer, but paid games do. Sony wants their new game they paid billions of dollars for to push ps+ subscriptions.

but basically nobody's going to buy it

If they were smart (heavy emphasis on if) they'd work on adding something like that post-launch but who even knows anymore.

It costs HOW much?

Who the fuck said with perfect accuracy? I said it's the equivalent of crouch-shooting except the gun reduces like 20% of your overall vision. The only guns that ever were scoped were something like sniper rifles because that's their entire gimmick.

or milsims that wanted to be immersive like lining up a pin-needle ironsight to a moving pixel target*
Other than that ADS is mostly a gimmick in arcade shooters hence all the bells whistles they need to add to it.

largest map in the game, compared to being the size of shoreline in tarkov

this looks soulless ngl

Pic related

Only way bungie could redeem themselves but that'll never happen.

It's mean to look Soulless™

You now remember how good Durandal was
youtube.com/watch?v=WlRM9-Rm34Q

Tarkov also runs like shit. I hope this runs better.

Imagine a campaign where you just got to Officer them to death

shockingly disappointing debacle
all they had to do was make the runners open-ended in archetypes and loadouts and look
light, medium, heavy frames, some primary bits of kit, and then tailored as one pleases
a title of this nature where one can actually express themselves a ways from the ground up was totally unploughed earth and they've gone and fucked it
pretty incredible cinematic trailer though, rich visual basis whether or not this game shits the bed as hard as it might
the asian cunt with the puffy jacket and doll legs is fash, all this said. could probably girlboss around with her to my heart's content in the way of what's on hand and feel nicely represented

...
...
...We are full of stars.

I guess the reason it's pvp only is because they don't want to waste resources on a multiplayer pve live service game because it'd compete with Destiny 2, which they're still trying to milk.

What seems to be the problem?

no ads = huge mobility = bad accuracy

ads = bad mobility = good accuracy

This game probably would've had more attention if it was a fucking GTFO style thing of a co-op shooter throwing players into the Marathon with some serious dick-punching challenge

this is exactly, precisely, entirely and utterly what I fucking wanted. I hate these stupid fucks so much, these niggers have been teasing cool premises and delivering abysmal dogshit for a decade straight.

Marathon, the game that is known to have the most satisfying shotgun in gaming history

nu-Marathon shotgun looks and sounds worse than fucking Starfield

COMPLETE SOUL OBLITERATION

Indeed

It's unnecessary in arcade shooters if you really think about it.

no one has ever played og Marathon, grandpa lol

It's because I played the original marathon games but I feel personal disgust when I see nu marathon, I hope they run it into the ground just like how they botched Destiny.

spread is not accuracy

go play Quake champions if you don't like ADS
or that Ball game uhhhh Diabotical

Or CS or L4D or Half-Life. Come the fuck on, anon.

it literally is, your shots are less accurate because you're shooting from the hip while zooming around and the SPREAD is the in game representation of that

CS or L4D or Half-Life

Out of all those games I have only ever played CS like... 2 times maybe
CS especially feels terrible to play, Normalfags truly are cattle to play this trash 24/7

Every anon in this thread would actually prefer a game that doesn't have ADS but instead has an alt-fire like UT. Go ahead, ask.

You're beautiful

The only upside of this are the memes that'll be created to mock the downfall of Bungie studios for turning multiple Bs into this turd.

So funny how they tried to hype up the kids with their hired shills that got all exited by "breaking the code" of some ctf bullshit while the game is total ass.
I knew the industry is in the shitter but this is still disappointing.

I don't know how to tell you this but... there's only 2 of us in this thread, in fact I'm just your alternate personality

You're phoneposting

Honestly? I expect this to go the way of Concord, just nowhere near as fast. This shit has nothing going for it but Bungie promises, aimed entirely at a super niche audience with a $40 paywall, and Tarkov players addicted to Tarkov (and the same for Hunt) aren't gonna be itching to dive in here too.

Why don't you go try it in real life. Go to your local range and shoot a shotgun from your hip and form your shoulder with your cheek planted firm on it AT THE SAME RANGE. The spread will not change because it's a forced mechanic in games to justify ADS.

i like 1.6

A shotgun shot doesn't magically choke itself in a tighter spread just because you are aiming through its sights, anon. Like that shit only exists in video games.

No one cares about your shit opinion, go play some dead arena shooter

Why even use the Marathon name for this? It has zero market appeal at this point. It didn't even have market appeal when Halo came out.
I declare this to be a:
Humiliation Ritual
Shaming Celebration
Fiasco Formulary

the flavor of alien visitation they're depicting is very stirring off the back of a lot of love for roadside picnic and stalker and solaris
very much the sort of thing that can be soaked up in passing as opposed to playing this potential turd thoughbeit
why oh why did they bring some valorant retard on board what a blunder

launching in fucking alpha

So what happens if no one playtests the game like Concord?

More people played Concord's beta than when it released mostly because it was free. This shit ain't free from the get go.

NO PROXIMITY CHAT "WE DONT HAVE A SOLUTION FOR TOXICITY YET"

god i hate thin skinned zoomers

original's sequel has one of the coolest shotguns in gaming

youtube.com/watch?v=YwoJ8vIoxA0

nubungie revives it as only doing the lever action flick when drawing it out and otherwise it's a boxy piece of lego shit that resembles the starfield shotgun

alpha

It's the final game, did you learn nothing the past 10 years?

What's wrong with Extraction Shooters?
I thought people liked that genre ever since Escape From Tarkov.

nubungie is a small indie studio please understand

Every single attempt died BECAUSE no one could compete with Escape from Tarkov and Hunt Showdown. Even Call of Duty's DMZ mode folded last year because it simply wasn't making the money Acti wanted anymore compared to the Battle Royale Warzone.

The fucking new DOOM game is doing this shit. THAT is how good of a shotgun it is

It seems like the market wants more PVE games but the devs are ignoring this

Yeah you would think with how big Helldivers 2 was before the PSN account fiasco

not the place to tell a cohesive story that doesn't just take the shape of a gazillion y*utubers talking about it in place of any straightforward exposition
i think it might lend itself well to the mystery but the environment itself seems to lack adequate depth and sheer focus to really lean into it nicely
i would have loved a format of game where the teams of whatever size were given incentive to work alongside one another prior to potential betrayals and fuckery
i'm all for cyborg deathmatch but a lot of opportunity looks to have been squandered

Game dev time in the AAA space takes 3-4 years minimum now, so by the time they think we want something, the industry has changed. Back in the late 2010s, early 20s, PvP was the in thing. Then people just sweat so much and became such cretins that people divulged back to solo and co-op PvE again, but the industry can't keep up and Sony's holding the bag for a gigantic live service PvP push because of Jim Ryan.

Hey PR gremlin can you stop spamming this garbage everywhere?

the aesthetics are the only thing it has going for it

if they actually used it well themselves, the lighting, shadowing, and general graphic fidelity looks like plastic dogshit, worse than mirrors edge a decade ago, because they need it to run on as many potatoe devices as possible in any hope of having a playerbase

I have never understood why so many people praise Destiny. Every time I tried to get into it I was so bored I stopped playing after 6 hours or so.

They say Destiny has great lore but all that is background stuff. In-game you're fighting the same enemies over and over. All this "Golden Age" high technology stuff doesn't actually come into play in anything; you're still shooting rocket launchers, firing SMGs, etc. These high-minded pronounciations that the Vex are a reality-ending threat mean nothing. The Cabal are all the same. The Hive never change or evolve over the many seasons. Nothing is really changed except the color of an effect or a texture on a map.

welcome to our 3d printer garage

It's a dead and stale genre, also reviving Marathon only to turn it into another always-online trooncore GAASlop shooter with microtransactions and BP is a travesty, it's a cynical and desperate attempt at brand recognition because bungie fumbled every other IP and now Marathon is on the chopping block of the pozz.

There has been ONE extraction shooter: Escape from Tarkov. It has literally never worked for any other game. It's not a genre, it's a single game.

Bungie copied that single game. That's why everyone is laughing at them: They copied a failed game instead of making the next Halo for all the Halo fans killed by 343 or making a battle royale for all the Apex fans that have been abandoned by that game.

Titanfall 2,

it was so good and so much fun I am so mad normies ignored it.

If they just made Destiny 3 and solved the issue where raids didn't require chat they would have a hit on their hands

the labels on every little knickknack makes me think of a ben garrison comic

They basically want what the Helldivers subreddit has where a bunch of autists create fictional side stories going on in the Helldiver universe

Deadass until this thread I thought this was a track and field game about running in a marathon and mostly ignored the threads

All this "Golden Age" high technology stuff doesn't actually come into play in anything;

Exotic weapons

These high-minded pronounciations that the Vex are a reality-ending threat mean nothing.

Of course they've never ended reality, otherwise you wouldn't have a game.

It's funny that indie devs can vomit out a current trend game in months but billion dollar studios need the better part of a decade to react to an old trend

also has bright vibrant colors

also has 3 character archetypes

BUT

more than 1 mode

free to play

balanced for more than 3 player squads

more than 3 maps

destruction made by old battlefield devs

hmm

YOOOO THIS APEX LEGENDS UPDATE LOOKS LIT AF

shit man, they killed Destiny for this and that Lightfall retardation, they literally have nothing to fall back on if this collapses
gotta love the complications of management

Because no one under the age of 40 knows what the fuck Marathon is and attaching that name to it is a bewildering decision

It's funny because Tarkov came out 6 months before Marathon went in production so someone played it and said "guys guys we need to make this it will be the next big thing nothing is like it" and here we are

i think extraction gameplay is dogshit, creep around the map for 40 minutes just to get instant killed by a russian hacker through a wall.

The Finals devs are also releasing an extraction shooter this year or early next year for $40 called Arc Raiders. Are they actually the old battlefield devs or is this more like a few people from the nu-battlefield era

owners of the tribes/starsiege IP were turning it into a fucking extraction shooter that was total dogshit

check again after all this marathon tomfoolery

delisted Starsiege Deadzone and instead turned it into Deadzone Rogue, using the same assets to shift around into making a co-op roguelite shooter instead

Even bozos doing a shitty IP flip on a bottom dollar budget understood the changing tides better.

The only chance extraction shooters have now is PVE. COD Zombis had a PVE extraction mode last year and it was the most played iteration of zombies ever and all it was, was them taking their Warzone map and dropping zombies shit on it. It felt very tacked on but was still fun

Literally a Destiny 2 titan

Woooow!

even looks like a Titan

he's got that Security Officer helm with stupid paint shit all over it, too

Was that smash brothers knockoff Bungie was working on cancelled or do we still have that to mock?

the old ceo of dice left and took a ton of the old talent with him to make embark

This absolutely has the potential to be the next Concord. Not as a glorious shitshow but a pathetic wet fart like Lawbreakers/Brink

Have people really forgotten about that swamp ass extraction shooter and its space clone already

Even as an aesthetic it's immediately ruined by the countless of chicks looking like cyberpunk 2077 prostitutes and horribly clashing colors. It looks ugly. Synthetik does it way better.

It's funny because Tarkov came out 6 months before Marathon went in production so someone played it and said "guys guys we need to make this it will be the next big thing nothing is like it" and here we are

More likely the game was in dev as an overwatch clone and only in the last couple of years did they switch to tarkov clone

It will sell better than Concord but I think it will still lead to the end of Bungie

That would be sad then because that would mean this game has been in development for almost a decade

Faceless nameless silent dude with a job title as his only descriptor fucking shit up.

Sign me the FUCK up.

5 years of development

3 maps

no proximity chat

shitty guns

shitty models

day 1 battlepass

not free to play

extraction shooter

They should call this game Half Marathon.

When are we going to stop this gay hero shooter trend and go back to playing as faceless grunts in a meaningless war?

Nah i meant more like

3 years dev of making ow clone

2 years of switching to extraction shooter

The gray dude looks like Handsome Squidward

When you go play tarkov

I'm not playing extraction sloppa

Yeah concord is a stretch but it can absolutely end up like lawbreakers

I would play this game if it starred the Marathon officer rampaging through all these grey silicone blob people and exterminating every single last one of them down to the last scrap of singed synthetic flesh, and then Durandal sabotages the neon mega blocks facility they're in and sets it to implode and nuke itself.

More like 100 meter sprint.

And the people who have played the og marathon know this reboot has nothing to do with the name. Seriously what was Bungie thinking

Seems like a meme or misunderstanding about what people want like I think we're all in agreement having an online place in the world as a feature of an actual game sounds cool. A hub, a lawless city, a wilderness area to fish hunt drive play cards whatever. Like an objective oriented version of GTA free roam as a geographical area. Realistically "Extraction" as a standalone game probably only works if you can procgen the maps on a timed rotation which is something that AAA studios should be able to create. I remember when Bungie was ramping up to releasing Destiny and the idea that you shared a world with others was enticing but on release the reality of it was weak because it wasn't a world. That was over 10 years ago and the formula hasn't seen iteration. Extraction and Battle Royale are like selling the smell of that kind of game without actually making it and nobody's even trying

mirror's edge ran on a potato in 2008. I don't get it. Destiny looked better than this.

I like the Marilyn Manson character class

Whycant they just make hot girls
Why do they make hot girls and then disguise them as monstrosities

Hey, quit it with the antisemitism

I just hate the whole idea of one death and thats it go start another game. Why can't I just respawn in a hub area and get the chance to get mys hit back? Imagine you and two friend having a 2 hour long mini rivalry with another 3 stack killing each other and trading gear that could be fun. Why does every fucking extraction shooter need this exact respawning system?

This game might have a chance if it was a full pve co op shooter, like left 4 dead or something. Extraction shooter is too niche.

tfw slop posting

How would they sell battle passes though

Oh shit tarkov has a pure pve mode? Might try it out

Its funny how random idea fags can come up with a better plot than so called "paid writers" or developers...

Just have seasons and add new slop every season. COD Zombies did this when they were an extraction shooter

people who have played the og marathon

you mean a bunch of 45+ year old dad gamers? Out of the all the bitching towards this game the whole whine over the name and reboot of a 100% dead game from decades ago is the least important. The game will live or die off how it plays. It looks like it could be a fun game if players focused up on the PvE stuff for the contracts etc and then every now and then you fight other teams.
I suspect many will avoid the PvE elements and just look to camp out extraction areas and gang others who did the PvE elements. Meaning those PvE sort of players will quit playing way sooner. Leaving less and less for the gank fest players to do so they quit too. It's The Division's dark zone issue all over again.

They start pointing fingers to Sony, just as they did with Activision, they are always the victim of the big bad company that owns them

I can imagine that because that's literally GTA free roam or battlefield and it was hilarious. Forcing 1 mode and 1 life is probably a way to be lazy and funnel people into matchmaking for maximum ROI or maybe they really believe this is better than a complete game

Looking at the gameplay its just pvp destiny

6v6 control was the only good thing Bungie ever did with Destiny. I still can't believe after all this time they literally could not figure out how to fit more than 12 players in a single mode. Actually pathetic devs. I remember when destiny 1 first came out I was thinking we were gonna get all these awesome crucible modes ranging from 2v2 to 10v10 because it's bungie and they're known for making fun multiplayer modes with varying player count limits.

Nah.

It's to hide the lack of content. Same with BR games. If you could play on one large map with no spawn limits you would get bored of the game quicker.

concord 2.0

The Officer is built different man

I'm so fucking tired of PVP shit. Can we please get some good single player games again

It's going to flop, but it will not be a 660 players + shut down in 2 weeks level of flop.

Destiny 2 pvp is the worst it's ever been and they think they can make a good pvp game kek

I can't just solo queue? What a fucking joke

nah it will flounder for several months maybe a year then quietly announce it's shutting down like xdefiant

Sign me the FUCK up.

right here:

alephone.lhowon.org/

A straight up team deathmatch game would have a better chance

you can't monetize tdm and capture the flag like you can monetize looter shooters, fren. That's why every game is turning into extraction loot mode, worst of all battlefail and halo

Someone saw pictures of goofy looking 3D printed guns and decided to make a whole game based on them

plastic brass knuckles

britbong anons, do these ones right here and post webm recordings of the bong police reacting to them

They could barely handle Destiny 2 which was already a shit game. There was zero chance this game could be any better. However many resources and years of development they spent on this amounted to 6 heroes and 3 maps. They couldn’t decide on an actual direction until last year. It’s just a bunch of headless chickens trend chasing. A rotten company from the top down and Sony needs to seriously consider dismantling for parts entirely. One of Bungie’s worst sins that anons don’t mention much is the streamer worship. Which has brought absolutely nothing good to D2. Old Bungie (and game studios in general) tempered Halo with nothing but the developers themselves and standard QA testers.

This is what happens when you sit in a troon echo chamber for years and actively hate your potential customers

They should have just revived Marathon like DOOM did with 2016

One of the official preview videos said you could play solo against other solo runners, but they didn't elaborate.

STEALTH GAME AND THATS BAD TO WATCH ON STREAM

Who even thinks this. There is stressful tension in stealth, makes for good stakes.

Worse, it's the shitty square shotgun from bugthesda Star field.

revive a long dormant IP

game has virtually NOTHING to do with the IP

What is the fucking POINT????

They have a retarded square shotgun in Destiny as well, because the developers have said they don't like guns and it shows when they keep remaking the same 5 generic guns

It really feels like they're like 5 years late chasing this tranny core aesthetic

Marketing, without a legacy IP a troon game litterally wont sell

Saints Woke 5 came out 3 years ago

where has the time gone

I mean it’s been in development 5 years

same way Hell Divers and Destiny does

Its better to copy the Halo Infinite model where Battle passes never expire and disappear from the store. I dont know if Bungie changed how things worked with Destiny 2, but IIRC you can only buy the seasonal activity/story + its matching battle pass. And once that season is over the battle pass progress is just wiped forever and replaced with a new one like every other game, only made worse by the fact that the seasonal activities/stories are removed from the game by the time the next major expansion comes out.

It should've come out in 2020 not greenlit in 2020

remember

lmao

that gdc talk should be posted in every bungie related thread

heh

It's the same trick the Arkane suits pulled for Prey 2017, there's no faith in a new IP

This.
There are dozens of extraction shooters out there and most people don't even know most of them because either no one cares or because the games flopped so hard that they got shut down and removed from digital storefronts in less than a year, so you can't even find them by searching anymore.
Like that extraction shooter made by HiRez.

They have no faith in their own product so they're doing remember berries on a franchise no one remembers

streamer worship

That recent line of "we see these creators as a part of the team too with their input", of course they'd say something like that with how unintuitive and assbackwards D2 is with things, so much 3rd party resources went into boilerplate shit that should've gone into the game and all that. On top of that you had that absolutely shameless line when D2 was in toilet Year 1 with saying how (paraphrase) "we know we messed up and how uncertainty has been hard on people who's livelihood depends on this game". It's just ghoulish and tainted. You're right the fact how the nutriders are all cranked up acting like there needs to be this benefit of doubt and suspension of disbelief Bungie now of all times will not pull a scam is laughable.

Why do people think a full loot PVP looter shooter that resets your progression every 3 months is a good idea?

because it has sexy ladys and it is designed by chinese outsourcing studio for jeets and incels

Because eventually you'll hit a point where some fags are just gonna have a top set of equipment (for god's sake there's a rarity system even) and dominate almost everyone they match up with if they don't get outgamed, so it's the sort of shit Tarkov does to even the balance levels out a bit for fair game between everyone every major update. I figure the same idea is here.

for jeets and incels

Anon, it's designed for obese body hair covered adult men who wish they were little girls and demand society treat them as if they are, hence the character models in the game being smooth marshmellowy hairless silicone synths.

Or shit man remember Hyenas that never saw the light of day? For all these retards saying "no you guys the casual middle ground needs a game like this", clearly the picture isn't so obvious and clear when something that looked exactly like it was going to fill that hole didn't even go to market. And while I don't think that game was necessarily gonna be amazing, it was still something people had hype for and curiosity of seeing done. I'm wagering that Marathon is gonna be a repeat of D2 Vanilla, anemic on content, a lot of rule changes to give whiplash to new people who can barely get acclimated, and it's gonna have the new factor wear thin when people dissect how poorly conceived a lot of it was. Expect Bungie to cart out a teary eyed Joe Blackburn out of retirement to say how things didn't go to plan and they'll do better next time, please pre order the new DLC

Whoever was in charge of greasing up Sony to pull the trigger on an acquisition pulled one of the largest corporate swindles in recent memory.

Meming aside, this is the exact kind of game they can't get DLC on. MTX for cosmetics, and maybe trying to assclench people on equipment insurance, but if they ever released a DLC for content in this day and age about new maps and content for a game like this, they'll be fuckin' crucified. So they can't get by on the expansion model like Destiny 2.

I'm like a half sony fanboy, but fuck seems like anything Sony touches these days turns to shit.

Like how many fucking online only co-op shooters did they have in production at once? Foam Stars? Concord? Maraton? Last of US online? Hell Divers?

Like your saturating your own market you fucking idiots of course they are going to fail.

Whoever was in charge of greasing up Sony to pull the trigger on an acquisition

Sony needed a studio that could develop a first person shooter since Sally Nadelly bought Activision and IDsoftware both. I think nobody was prepared for how badly Bungie would actually fuck themselves up though.
And, 343 industries is no better for microsoft than Bungie is for sony now.

It was a panic response to Microsoft buying Activision

Don't forget Fairgame$. This is what they don't understand. These types of games are like MMOs. People only play one at a time. No one plays a couple rounds of siege then goes on marvel rivals then ends the night with a warzone match. It's all very self contained and people go all in on one or the other

>NO SOLO MODE "PEOPLE IN TESTING PLAYED IT LIKE A STEALTH GAME AND THATS BAD TO WATCH ON STREAM" -YES BUNGO SAID THIS

It's actually Bungie's obsession with streamers that gives me no hope for this game.

Hell Divers?

This one is bizarre to me. Why the fuck would Sony want competition against their own cash cow. Let Helldivers rake in money from multiplayer whales, and order Bungie to remake Marathon faithfully, and it would sell on Playstation just like Halo sold on Xbox.

Some people I chat with theorize that this is probably only half Sony's fault. The other half is that Bungie themselves, retards as they are, probably thought they had some shit to aim for in making their own mark, aka "steal the throne from Escape from Tarkov where no one else has managed to."
Of course, no evidence, so just people flinging shit either way.

Meanwhile, pro-woke activists are defending Marathon and calling Anon Babble clowns.

They sold them a box of hot air and a pie in the sky fantasy and Sony bought it like said

Halo

Franchise disc sales: 80 Million

So that's 80 million people that have all played linear, story-laden single player campaigns with deep lore and philosophical discussions that Sony is abandoning to the wind in exchange for tarkov players, because everyone knows the only thing sweaty, grease-bearded tarkov players seek is Twitter engagement

The one on the left isn't a woman.

Why are they so disgustingly vulgar about their piss and shit fantasies every pwn they launch has to do with pissing or shitting your pants/diapers it's beyond parody

This is the same design decision like POE2 where your death can cause you to lose waystone, progress, and exp.
These designs specifically aim to waste your time. The more you engage, the more you are likely to make pity purchase. The entire premise of the “game” is to keep you playing on a big treadmill.
If you value your time. You will stay away from them.

I almost forgot that Airbagged, the pro-woke Antifa terrorist who stalks Anon Babble to call us clowns, is also a Dustborn supporter.

Look at the background of his profile picture. His anal ring is prolapses and gaped to permanent incontinent evacuation as result of his constant receptive position in sodomy, so thus he projects his permanent condition onto all others.

I've encountered it a dizzying amount of times. They're trying to glaze some girl boss or tranny or something with the dunk that "LOOK AT HER SLAYING YOU MISERABLE CHUD ALL YOU CAN DO IS CRY AND SHIT YOUR PANTS ABOUT IT" it's like...no bro...that's a you thing

I just think of when Curse of Osiris came out and really started to kill D2 when they consciously took out the end access to Nightfalls by locking it behind the DLC despite how it was a base D2 feature. Just absolute scum

It seems like every new online game is designed for people with at least 5 friends. I don't have any friends.

It used to be 4 player coop now 3 is the lucky number

fag flag profiles are second only in retarded takes to blue and yellow profiles

You're fine dude communally eating slop out of the same troth a friend does not make. I came to that realization as I got older and ghosted 99% of "friends" I had

Isn't this katebush guy a pest schizo? somebody pulled tweets where they were in jail over something on their computer

no Marty O'Donnell

no buy

Where all the BLM supporters at? What happened? Surely they're still very passionate about the cause

Who?

This is what the people want. Millions were poured into market research. They are providing the bare minimum with highest returns. See Pokemon games, the biggest franchise on Earth yet its magnum opus is what Scarlet and Violet is.

Correct.

BLM had all its funding pulled when they decided to protest Israel.
Same way Femen completely disappeared when they tried to open a branch in Israel.

He did the flintstones vitamin kids jingle

Makes sense why that slob director and a few other schlubby retards on stage were like "uh yeah can't wait to talk about your epic runs", they're just trying to sell this cheap idea that clipworthy action is gonna be enough substance when it's like you can literally play tons of games, do something that's outrageous and cool with friends and talk about it, that doesn't save a game alone. It's no different than saying , yeah man my boy threw that super in Destiny at the boss and it was a big blast, and the guy was donezo.

Eh. He was good, but he was also a dipshit. Everyone at Bungie turned out to be in the end.

Dave Rivera is a fucking faggot

Also this: youtube.com/watch?v=414hGL_n1x4
Nobody cares, just let him make music

another dev that has only circled the drain in terms of talent the last decade is making a hodgepodge FOTM dumpsterfire that somehow costed billions

Really dont understand how most of the industry has jobs

No, he's a champagne socialist antifa wannabe. He buys likes on twitter and begs people at bars to take pictures with him so that he can "own the chuds." His arrest comes from him being at a riot.

NO SOLO MODE "PEOPLE IN TESTING PLAYED IT LIKE A STEALTH GAME AND THATS BAD TO WATCH ON STREAM"

streaming and it's consequences on gaming have been disastrous

he was also a dipshit

How? And if you say he got mee-tooed, then we all know accusations against him would have been bullshit falsehood lies.

Literally zero reason not to just replay Halo 1-3 campaigns or Aleph One instead of this slop

Ummm sweaty he's a chud