People are really celebrating mountain dew sipping dudebro slop now?

Skyrim lite

Skyrim is a stripped down Oblivion wtf are you even on about?

From a normalfag's perspective, Oblivion is just Skyrim without the epic vikangz and dragons and with some boring number shit that determines how fast my toon can run between one quest marker and the next.

My fucking god. It's the RPG elements that got stripped down. I'm obviously talking about the fucking COMBAT you troglodyte.

What combat? It's still the same basic as fuck system of mashing LMB over damage sponges with no AI scripting beyond making a straight beeline for you and doing the exact same thing.

Level scaling was the bad half of Oblivion's RPG systems and it's still there because it would have taken an ounce of effort to make every location have its own leveled encounters. Now the dogshit streamlined Fallout/Skyrim accelerated leveling replaced the only thing that made Oblivion unique. The grind isn't there --- you can have a full 99 character in under 20 hours if you know what you're doing. And you might argue that's a good thing, but without meaningful character building it's like loading up a maxed save downloaded off gamefaqs where you're just left with the game's lackluster quests, copy-pasted dungeons and exploiting the broken combat mechanics to make up for the shitty level scaling.

It makes me laugh so much when I see normalfags going

WATCH AND LEARN! THIS IS HOW YOU DO REMASTERS!

And then they admit they've never played the original.
If you haven't played the original, you have no right to say if a remaster is good or bad.

While I love these speculation posts and as much as I'd love to believe this, I don't. It's as simple as modern audience being too retarded but that's not an excuse either. They could just scrap the leveling and make it like skyrim

Nothing from this era deserves to be remade

the only fags who care about "meaningful character building" are you new age baldur's gate 3 roleplaying faggots. start a new character, retard.

They'd have to redo every single quest, rewrite 99% of the voicelines to be able to voice them, record all those lines, change the entire system for the guilds and a million other things that are too complicated for modern audiences on top of having to recreate every single asset.

but without meaningful character building

What meaningful character building did oblivion have? What meaning does levelling have when everything levels with you?

It's not that much effort. They can just cut out all the walls of text and slap a quest marker and use Skyrim combat.

I played the original, im somewhat of a big shot. I also installed morrowind and had a good enough time hating it. My thoughts on the remake: that’s pretty fucking cheap. I’d rather they make a new reality. The homosexual rapist god of this dimension keeps us occupied with digital remasters because he’s totally creatively bankrupt by now. He can’t even make a new game anyone buys, he literally has to watch his own streamers and buy his own products because we’re so tired of his homosexual behavior. It’s pretty offensive when your game is actively trying to poison you, and they charge us money for that. And when we won’t buy it, the poisons so effective they try to give it to you for free on pirate websites. I’m smarter than that now, I take one look at this faggots work and immediately know what’s up.

he knows it was good despite him, not because of him

This is such a weird headcanon, he literally saved Morrowind, which otherwise would've been even more broken on release than Daggerfall, his Morrowind success story was the primary reason why got so much control over Oblivion to begin with. Even if what you're saying were true, he surpassed Morrowind's commercial success several times over since then.

What meaningful character building did oblivion have

You did have to build your character with extreme precision if you didn't want to get shafted later

5+5+1 or 5+5+5

no wasted skill levels allowed

athletics and acrobatics leveling strictly controlled because you can't have a random skill level up while you're already increasing a random attribute

It is pretty meaningful when you have to spend the first 30 hours of the game swimming in lake Rumare in heavy armor.

That's not "meaningful character building", that's trying your absolute best to take a completely broken, dysfunctional system that should have never gotten past playtesting and try to make it at least somewhat "work". It's like javing all the gaskets in your car's engine blown out so you tear off the bonnet, put a hose over the oil fill, and drive the thing home while you're leaning out the window continuously pouring oil into the thing.

food analogy

millennials are just really nostalgic for their first rpg game ever

Fuck off, Dobson.

Not even skyrim is a "dudebro" game, let alone oblivion you contrarian troonjak subhuman faggot

Oblivion is twice as kino as your favorite game

this casualized RPG that completely ripped off the aesthetic of LoTR (the biggest film franchise ever at the time) and was developed mainly for the dudebro console and was heavily featured in said dudebro console's press releases was not a dudebro game

Gujarat isn't sending their best.

Oblivion was influenced by lord of the rings. Same thing happened to Zelda Twilight Princess.

I think they went a bit overboard but it's fine.

In some concept art and behind the scenes it was originally supposed to look like the Aztec capital of Tenochtitlan.

Keeping the alien like art style of Morrowind. Skyrim was more of a return to form in this aspect at least.

Todd haters will always come up with these wild delusions
Next you'll be telling me he's some kind of workplace tyrant when everyone who's ever worked with him says he's pleasant to work with, or maybe some rumors around new vegas's bonus

Morrowind fags love to cope and pretend Morrowind wasn't Todd's most involved game

Aztec/mayan stuff is more black marsh tho

This board is infested with 2007-2012 nostalgiatards that love their iraq propaganda and ondisc dlc

yep
how did it get so bad

dudebro

go back

this is how you know Anon Babble has been invaded by jeets, none of bethesda games have ever been discussed or loved on /v./,

not liking Oblivion

Lol advertisers are the only ones talking on Anon Babble. They obviously pay people to make the threads. Imagine how cheap and effective that is? And you just keep falling for it. Your stupid im smart.

Skyrim gets remade with UE5skin while keeping its original engine for gameplay

sell it for 50 bucks, multiplat

people will praise it as game of the decade

Everyone's fucked. I can't imagine Nintendo following this trend, slapping UE5 skin on a past Mario game and sell it for 80 bucks.

Oblivion was always good, all it takes for normies and fags to notice it was Chinese tier plastic retexture, a filter and 120 GB more storage.

And the poeple ate this slop like swine. Consume and never stop

You did have to build your character with extreme precision if you didn't want to get shafted later

Stop lying, you just needed to get into spellcrafting and indulge yourself in magik.
Oblivion and Morrowind are the rare games where if you werent a bit into magik, you were going to have a bad time. Thats why Warrior and Knights larpers got rape hard and still seethe to this day.

Battlemages still win to this day.

Nintendo just releases their ancient games with no improvements on an emulator for full price + $10 + tip instead

The Skyward Sword port cost more than the original game did lmao

28306 - BasedBooru

yep, sounds like a guy who plays mage in every game he picks up

We had Oblivion soul threads before Skyrim was even announced

Exactly what I say, dont complain about Oblivion or Morrowind because you got filtered and were incapable to use weakness spells with an echanted weapons with element damage or have enough magic defense to be immune from any supernatural elements.

The level scaled loot and enemies really do feel like shit. I'm level 14 and I think I'm just going to stop here and not sleep until I have a bunch of enchanted gear and maxed destruction/conjuration.

Just install a mod that makes you invincible and stop whining like a little bitch.

its bad because chads like it

reddit onions cuckolds seething

Level scaling is bad and lazy design. The devs are basically saying that they're too lazy to design high level zones or bother to hand place loot so just have everything scale so they don't have to worry about it.

mod

Chameleon exists in the game.

are you retarded?

This and also reflect damage

You can literally CHIM in Oblivion and curb stombed anything with magic schools and spellmaking. Like Morrowind but it takes some in-game quirks and knowledge to get.
OG Oblivion add damage bonuses if you have 300% more fatigue than your cap for exemple and you can literally have better effects than paralysis if you do fatigue damage on NPCs while having funny bugs here and there.
If you play like this, I think you can have a very good time with level scaling even if its a shit mechanic.
You only need the Ascension mod, Balanced NPC and Creature level cap and the Unnoficial patch. And voilà, Level Scaling fixed.
I still play with the level scalling unless Im roleplaying because once CHIM, its hard to find any challenge anywhere on max difficulty.

You only need the Ascension mod, Balanced NPC and Creature level cap and the Unnoficial patch. And voilà, Level Scaling fixed.

That doesn't fix the scaled loot. Every dungeon feels the same with the same boring scaled crap in it. Houses aren't worth exploring. You'll never find any cool shit in them. Chests are all filled with scaled, boring trash. Ascension still has scaled loot but instead of rare shit being everywhere, it's confined to boss chests. Any single dungeon is still basically like every other one. That's still better than vanilla but you can only polish a turd so much

Why do you even play RPGs if the idea of raising the power level of your character irritates your prostate so much?

Where do ideas like this even come from? There are probably thousands of interviews with the guy that you can easily look up to get a sense of what he's actually like instead of just inventing stuff like this

Looking up online this mod seems to be what you are looking for. Or at least as close as possible to what one could get.
nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/53431

I also 100% agree, Morrowind was superior in that regard when Deadric armor and weapons had to be found or were heirlooms from Dunmer noble houses. In vanilla, bandit just can spawn with them.

It was always shit

Yes, that should tell you something about how shit games are these days.

this
it's an utter unique experience that you can't find anywhere else
much like morrowind

People are really celebrating mountain dew sipping dudebro slop now?

LITERALLY YES LMAO I FUCKING LOVE THIS GAME

they could simply remove the hit rolls and go with damage rolls instead; you always hit, but you can do almost no damage to full damage; the higher the skill, the more full damage.

Wouldn't matter, people fixate a lot on the miss thing but that's irrelevant. The problem with Morrowind is that combat has no reactivity. You just stand in front of your enemy and spam your strongest attack, he does the same, whoever is stronger wins.

I also 100% agree, Morrowind was superior in that regard when Deadric armor and weapons had to be found or were heirlooms from Dunmer noble houses. In vanilla, bandit just can spawn with them.

Yeah, exploring new dungeons was exciting in Morrowind because you never knew what kind of cool shit that you could find. I remember during my first playthrough how cool it was to discover stuff like the vampiric ring in a random ass dungeon or when I found a piece of deadric gear just sitting there in a house. You don't get that experience in Oblivion at all. It's just scaled blah

Yeah, I want an open world RPG where the world feels real. Oblivian still has the best radiant AI and are spontaneous enough to feel authentic. Would you rather have a world where NPCs just stay in one spot and don't react to the player character, like the modern slop your into?

The dragons are the thing I hated the most about skyrim. They're just annoying. Also having unkillable NPCs in skyrim makes things feel less real.

Pic related was the coolest dungeon loot
Even cooler if you levitate and saw the hidden part of the tomb.

combat has no reactivity. You just stand in front of your enemy and spam your strongest attack, he does the same, whoever is stronger wins.

That is literally every Bethesa game ever made.

Oblivion and Skyrim are better at hiding that fact. With Oblivion you can dodge enemy attacks backstepping, and Skyrim has kill cams and better animations to trick the normies.

The reality is each time you boot up Morrowind you should be thanking Todd

now

this board is nothing but people like crowbcat

Reminder that morrowfags are never ever going to get an official remaster of their game.

Why the fuck would I want that? OpenMW+Project Tamriel is all I need.

I weep for you Oblishitters and Skyfaggots, for you get fed the same slop with a different colour year after year and you've been conditioned to like it.

The remaster looks kinda shit desu
Also why is it 70 bucks for the whole thing

playing the remake now and it just feels off i can play morrowind any day and still be excited to go in any direction and explore playing the remake is like some sorta weird ESO single player hybrid and it feels off.

The remake is soulless trash change my mind.

Oblivion is soulless trash to begin with kiddo

untrue

What in your mind makes it "soulless"?

Normie boots up Morrowind: remastered

get told to find “caius cosades” in balmora

asks guard directions

“idk go smell the skooma air loser”

no marker

ears start ringing

gets heart palpitations

seizure aura creeps in

it looks so bad what the hell

say what you want about dude bro gaming culture... but at least the games were fun.

Modern audience slop

5 hour intro that barely lets you play the game

Heavy handed retarded sociopolitical messaging but not a deep critique like a system shock but repeated pop talking points like dustborne.

Non stop bans cause a power tripping "community manager" doesn't like you.

Dudebro culture gave rise to snob indie hipster scene.... which in retrospect was a mistake but some good stuff came even from the counter culture rebellions.

I will take the dumb frat bro glory days of dude broing out any day and the snarky indies occasional cranking out an occasional thought provoking (and mostly pretentious) over ugly retarded slop with barely functional controls and devs that scream at you nonstop for saying it is anything less than a perfect stunning and brave masterpeice that needs multiple sequels.

As for my personal thoughts?
Seems there is an argument over if gaming peaked gen 6 (Ps2, GameCube, DS, PSP) or Gen 7 (360, wii, Ps3, 3ds) but whether you think Gen 7 was when everything went to crap or Gen 7 was the last good gen, everyone agrees everything after Gen 7 was trash.

All of these apply to oblivion

You spent 5 hours in the Imperial sewers???

youtu.be/_qPsTwPuLwM

Nah, gaming went into a slight fecovery with gen 8. gen 7 was absolute rock bottom.

Au contraire. It's his baby. It reminds him of a time when he had a soul and a human heart.

t. zoomie

The fact morrowfags treat no map markers as something special, shows how underaged and retarded they are

Probably because Oblivion and Skyrim have map markers you faggot.

I will never understand this weird fiction of Morrowind being super complex and filtering people, the game was popular as hell and even normalfags loved it.

Maybe Anon Babble should have stayed dead if it meant faggots like you couldn't post. Everyone likes oblivion and always had

Who put this idea into retards head that level scaling was going to make the game too hard for them?
It's a shitty bethesda game, you can beat it, anon. You don't have to be scared and make up all those retarded excuses about how it's morally reprehensible that a rat might get a 20% damage boost in late game.

Nah I also think it's retarded when enemies scale with you, for the exact reason you gave. Why the fuck does a rat get stronger just because I do?

And hundreds of games before Morrowind didn't. It's not anything special or difficult to understand

Oblivion was a flawed masterpiece

And hundreds of games before Morrowind didn't.

You are such a fucking retard, the whole point is that the games after it in its own SERIES have map markers.

It was a garbage game only held up in memory by the amazing soundtrack by Jeremy Soule. Though some of the questlines did have good stories attached to it.

What in your mind makes it "soulless"?

zoomers are too mentally ill with adhd to enjoy morrowind and they consider skyrim a kids game because they grew up playing it so they only have oblivion left

And it means absolutely nothing. Thats like saying seeing your experience bar is a massively new feature

And it means absolutely nothing.

Well no it clearly means something, retard. You can just admit you've lost and we can end this farce.

Bandits running around in glass armor and Marauders in daedric armor is retarded

and always had

bullshit
from how it looked (faces and bloom) to horse armor, to broken ass "Radiant AI", to removal of levitation crossbows and other shit, to atrocious level scaling and bandits in daedric armor - it was shat on plenty by those for whom it was not their first 'rpg'

Not having way points isn't a special unique feature

oh yeah, and the map markers and the atrocious consolized UI too

Everyone likes oblivion and always had

Source?
No, go ahead, give some source.
You're the same kind of a dumbfuck retard faggot who in 10 years will go

erm akshually, everyone always love skyrim, only hipsters ever disliked it

Ah so you can turn them off without mods in Oblivion and Skyrim? Simple yes or no, please.

Yes

So you're gonna lie. Guess I accept your concession.

Clearly the bandits are actively raiding oblivion gates for loot

Don't have to activate the map markers to progress in a quest

>erm akshually, everyone always love skyrim, only hipsters ever disliked it

This is actually true. It sold a gazillion copies and still does. It may not be the most complex or deep rpg, or as autistic as morrowind, but people love it.

Nigger we're both at least 30, we've both seen how utterly pathetic modern gaming has become.
People just sit on roblox and press a button that rolls a slot machine and call it a game now, compared to that Oblivion is basically shakespeare.

it's not a rpg, that's why people love it

bandits being able to take on the Daedra and an Oblivion gate while an entire Colovian city fell immediately to one

lol?

No shit. RPGs have been the gayest genre since the late 90s

Grim
Mark my words, subhuman zoomers will be celebrating remake/remasters of 7th slop/core/ like gears of war, killzone, gaylo, cod, skyrim, f3, uncharted, dmc reboot, etc.

autistic as morrowind

Morrowind's not even autistic levels of RPG, far from it. But that just goes to show far the bar has pivoted away from legit WRPG's to where something like Morrowind is seen as 'autistic' in terms of gameplay.

but at least the games were fun.

qte

turret/vehicle sections

2 weapon limit

regenerating health

brown and piss

covers

cinematic movieshit

walkie talkie sections

unskippable cutscenes

fun

Fuck off retard

You probably defended the System Shock 1 remake

Bandits outnumber regular civilians 100 to 1 in TES

you forgot on disc dlc, the bald protags and war backstory

Never played it

xir is not sure

uses "probably" because xhe is a weak bitch

lol

Good. It's shit

So by that logic bandits should be the bigger threat to the empire.

pre order ((((bonuses)))) that were just cut content

God 7th gen was shit

No moron. Those were reserved for Morrowind exclusively. Oblivion was the console kid game.

Modern indie games are actually better quality than Oblivion and better games too.

Look at this bloom and hdr
You dare to call this shit soul? Gtfo retard

So was Morrowind

It was PC first!

for like one week

It sold a gazillion copies

AMAGAWD I LOVE BAYFORMERS NAO :DDDD

65€ for a 20 year old game

Do boomers really?

Bro it's oblivion!!!! Think of the youtube memes!!!!! The AI is so bad that it's good!!!!!

Damn being off this website for a week and coming back to it made me realise how much some people hate games and having fun. The only place I've seen hate on the oblivion remaster is here. I should probably go outside.

I should probably plug in the Matrix

wow daring decision

Morrowtrannies shares the same Schizo gas chamber as NVtrannies
thats why trainwiz is a groomer enabler too