We are so fucking back WoWbros!

We are so fucking back WoWbros!

my mom has a pinched nerve in her arm so hopefully this helps her continue to enjoy her favorite (only) game

Just like in vanilla

Can't wait until the servers shut down

itt: seething xivtroons

You already can do that with macros, what's the problem?

It's funny really, that we all forgot about the casualization of gaming because of gay ass faggot politics. Meanwhile shit like this is still happening, it didn't even stop one bit.

increases cast times by 0.2 seconds

thats okay, no parse shenanigans here

this will bring people back to our game!

that aside... i might actually do better with auto-rotation on shadow rogue during CDs and AoE. that shit floods with combo points way too quickly to keep up with. i can't really think of many other cases where it would be worth using. maybe frost mage if it can instantly react to procs so fast that even if the icon is different client side it will adjust server side to procs when you press it.

sweet

What's new is old again

That said op being a rage baiting fag and vanilla memes aside why does this matter again?
Anyone who needs or uses this button isn't doing competitive numbers in competitive content. Who gives a shit if some soccer mum can finally do a rotation properly in like a heroic or open world pve? IF you epeen can't take that, that's a you problem.

That's kinda based.

play single player games for 5 years because Anon Babble convinced me wow sucks

don't enjoy any of them

just want to return to wow

Fuck anons like you

A step in the right direction.

WoW gameplay has always been the worst in video game history and MMOs suffered from being pressured to adopt it

That's unironically a great change.
Tryhards will outperform this . and retards have actual functional wheelchairs now.
thats a Blizz W

They should at least add a damage penalty or something if you turn this on so that people playing manually have an advantage. Like maybe they do 5% less damage if they have auto mode turned on than if they had pressed the buttons themselves.

It literally says in the tooltip that it increases GCD by 0.2 retard

israel is real

I'll be honest, I do not know what that stands for or what difference it would make. But if it's basically my suggestion then I guess that's a good thing.

blizztroons are unironically defending the game playing itself for you with a minor penalty which is made up for by you having a perfect rotation while doing mechanics

The stupidity of modern WoW players never ceases to amaze me

It's amusing because blizzard admit the game is too hard, but rather than just turn the game back into frostbolt frostbolt like they should and create a fun broadly appealing game again, they create an automated hoop jumper.
They cannot leave the headspace where the only relevancy is rwf elitists and their precious hoops.
Not the dwindling millions of players who will never mythic raid.
Blizzard are so close yet so far.

minor penalty

PTR testing has it at around a 40%-60% DPS loss depending on your spec. Not only does it have the 0.3(they increased it from when the OP image was taken) second GCD delay but it is NOT doing anything close to a perfect rotation.

Gcd is global cool down, each spell is on the gcd and its like 0.5 seconds between each spell cast, using auto mode increases it by 0.2 making each spell 0.7 seconds, thus lowering your damage because longer gap between spells

so it's just like xiv healers now cool

It's the Overwatch mentality. It hasn't quite been as devastating for WoW as it was for OW but it's still annoying to see them make the exact same mistake again.
I get that Retail got a bit too casual about a decade ago when they removed talent trees and simplified rotations but they're went WAY overboard in the other direction since, making both of those things more complex than ever. There's gotta be a happy medium somewhere.

The irony of WoW having tried hard to shutdown things like this in the past, only to implement it themselves now.

Funny, but aren't there addons for this anyway? I know there's a lot of them where they highlight what spell you should use in every situation. Making it official without needing to look for it is probably a good thing. But then again to me WoW is dead because of the dogshit lore nowadays, not because of gameplay changes so idk

The rotations in the past were a lot more simple to be fair. Like look at this shit, I'm not surprised that there are boomers that can't pull it off and need it to be automated. This isn't even including the AoE rotation.

There is and it's frostbolt frostbolt from classic.
The game has always been about running dungeons for loot to improve your character. It's a fantasy casino with an incredibly low bar for entry and that's why it became popular.
The stupid guitar hero shit that came in later thanks to legacy of steel and EJ has always been poison.
The game was far better when people didn't have to pretend that playing through the fire and the flames for several hours a night was fun.

Ret Paladin is bottom of the DPS charts right now

It's still the most played spec in the entire game by far because it's the only one that isn't bloated to shit and has a relatively simple rotation

Blizz devs probably have PTSD from the backlash when they initially pruned abilities(which they still get shit for by people that don't play the game despite it having been undone over half a decade ago now) but it is beyond time for them to do it again and actually stick to it. This one button shit is just dodging the real issue. Retail WoW gameplay doesn't need to be complex and aimed exclusively at hardcore players. That was never its identity for the majority of its life.

Contrast that to Rogue, which is from what I remember pretty complex whether it's the APM required for Outlaw or the buff and debuff management for Assassination. It's only beat out by Evoker as the least played class isn't it?

Yep, that's right. Havoc DH got it the worst because it was initially designed to be the easy mode spec even at a time when rotations were fairly simple and it is now one of the most complex specs in the game. Who asked for that? Certainly not anyone that liked the spec. It's as if they make all these decisions in a desperate attempt to appeal to people that don't even play the game and won't give them any credit for it regardless.

havoc is one of the most complex specs

I don’t believe you. I mained that spec all the way from legion to the end of sneedolands which is when I gave up on blizzard and quit for good.
You’re not about to tell me that it somehow is complex now

This is sorta true but the image is disingenuous. You can't have Dark Ascension and Void Eruption at the same time

You don't enjoy games, you just enjoy wow and posting on Anon Babble apparently

You’re an addict

Classes should have no more than 3-4 buttons in their core rotation as most

t. currently playing ele shaman on a wotlk server and loving it

Already possible with addon (and without gcd penalty). This is just an official version for housewives and console gamers, both are too retarded to figure out how addons work.
Literally a nothingburger.

That's how it is though. 3-4 button core rotation and then some situational stuff and some passive stuff that changes how they go together. Icy-veins makes that shit look complicated because they try and jam all those situations into one priority list. The issue isn't that the rotations are complicated it's that they're communicating poorly.

Wrath and Legion were the best class design and they were relatively simple
Anyone who says bloat rotation expansions were better are delusional

The problem is that if they remove abilities then people like Asmongold will make videos freaking out about it and there will be a massive wave of people shitting on the game and saying Blizz has killed it.

Not a Wow expert or played all versions, but I think im not wrong by saying but if thing had to change from classic design then Blizzard should have stick with MoP design: Casualised enough to be easy, while still having class abilities variety.
No wonder that most players I read/heard agree that MoP was the last good "modern wow expansion. Blizzard changing this post-MoP mortally wounded the game.

This seems like preperation for a mobile client.

It wouldn't have the massive GCD penalty if it was being done to port it to consoles or mobile. You'd have entire platforms that can't even do heroic dungeons without being kicked for absurdly low DPS, nevermind anything above that.

there will be a massive wave of people shitting on the game and saying Blizz has killed it.

Same as it ever was.
Same as it ever was.
Same as it ever was.

Got proff for this?

literally any "gaming" gear can do this nowadays using macros without any penalty, what is even the point

40%-60% DPS loss

All that sounds like is there is either a bug in the priority/logic or a legitimate bug with it using the wrong skill. Do you think they're going to nerf damage % when using it like how SF6 does to modern controls?

but rather than just turn the game back into frostbolt frostbolt like they should and create a fun broadly appealing game agai

fuck off retard
only subhumans enjoy this type of "gameplay"
literal cookie clicker
problem with wow isn't class gameplay, it's that the content ask too much too quickly

and even if class gameplay is "hard", they always had the passive talents which made one's rotation many times easier

It just says "time between abilities", as in GCD?
Can casters use this without any penalty?

Hell yes, as a vanilla Andy I can finally go back to retail

bfa had far better class design
people forget that legion was a soft spec design reset and they didn't fix many of the flaws until bfa

Would it really be so bad if the game was easy?
Your wrists would thank me 10 years from now.

If you want WoW but easy, Classic is right there. Retail is for people that want a challenging version of WoW.

No. The GCD is a thing for all classes. There isn't a single spec that doesn't suffer a significant DPS loss from turning this on vs playing manually. Which is intentional.

it's just grindy, not challenging. If you didn't need to run 500 dungeons to gear up for high level content mythic would be cleared in an afternoon

I honestly don't get where this "call to ban addons" came from and why it got so much traction. Game shouldn't be difficult because it has shitty UI.
Blizzard allowing addons was one of the best things they ever did when creating WoW. They literally outsourced improving their bad UI to the community, and the community did it FOR FREE. It worked perfectly for both sides.
I got so used to being able to fully customize my interface that I really miss it when playing other games.

hurr durr RWF raiders complain that bosses require addons and weakauras reeeeee ban addons now

So???? Addons are free and available to everyone, what the fuck is the problem that you need to install it to be able to do absolutely cutting edge content? It's like complaining you can't race in F1 with your normal street car.

Anon do you know when the GCD starts when you cast a spell?
I don't want to sound condescending but...

The 0.3s GCD applies after casting the spell. What, did you think they designed this entire system and just forgot about casters existing the entire time?

Can you customize the abilities used in the rotation or is it predefined by blizzard?

yes
I played all versions of wow (up to SL), gameplay only gets decent at wotlk and even then half the specs are duds (ele sham, hpala, entire mage, a/fwar, moonkin, combat etc)
half the specs are busted until cata/mop and even then you have shit like fire mage which was still fireball spam in cata
if classic had good gameplay more people would play it

also

wrists

why would you have issue with wrists in a non aiming game like wow?

wow it's just like tera except you have to pay for it

On the contrary I find it hilarious considering WoW seethers only ever had their class complexity to hold over XIV and now WoW has completely ceded that ground with literal single button rotations.

The 0.3s GCD applies after casting the spell

That's what I was asking about. Calling it a GCD is a bit confusing, it's technically a proper term for it but it's not what people usually call GCD

What, did you think they designed this entire system and just forgot about casters existing the entire time?

It's blizzard, they're known for being fucking stupid. I fully expected them to forget about it

Challenging version of wow is such an oxymoron.
Wow elitists are worse than smashies.

This image is retarded bullshit, shadow priest is one of the easiest spec to play right now and is relatively comfy compared to clunky garbage like affliction lock.
t.played every single class/spec combo in TWW for mage tower achievement

It's not like WoW rotations aren't more complex nowadays but icy niggers always make them sound like some super complicated bullshit when in reality they aren't

What do you MEAN more people would play classic? It's the most popular form of wow.
M+ and mythic raiding is DYING bro.

this honestly seems like a good idea?

it's not complex at all he got gaslit by the retards on DH discord. it's a little harder than Ret but definitely not close to something like Enha shaman

isn't classic on cata right now? people are actually playing cata over retail? holy shit retail must suck ass in that case

This. Even fanart for a different game gets used for that purpose.

are you retarded

I am fairly certain that is a hearthstone card

an auto rotation is very very low on the totem pole of this game's problems

are you?

iirc it's not but that guy was contacted by blizzard and was asked to draw official art for hearthstone later

another classic retard thinks his game is popular .
sorry to break it to you but Viewers on twitch dont mean classic is more popular
Retail has much more players

fan art

it was drawn by an artist who does official art for blizzard

They cannot leave the headspace where the only relevancy is rwf elitists and their precious hoops.

How can such a big company be so delusional? Do they have data we don't know about that shows RWF bringing revenue and new players? Is the increased twitch viewership and short publicity about this pathetic "race" so precious to them?
No one in my guild and none of my friends cares about RWF, I never heard about anyone who started playing WoW because of RWF. Why are they doing this?

The problem is having all of these redundant attack skills in the first place. It's fucking pointless bloat to give the illusion of having any variety or depth whatsoever.
Guild Wars 2 did it best with a tight selection of 5 weapon skills that had multiple effects and combos built into them.

I honestly don't get where this "call to ban addons" came from and why it got so much traction.

The sentiment was always there simmering in the background over the years and "Why It's Rude to Suck at Warcraft" video essay by Folding Ideas has put a spotlight on it.

Game shouldn't be difficult because it has shitty UI.

Agreed. Which is why your in-game progress should happen in the game and not on CurseForge.

Blizzard allowing addons was one of the best things they ever did when creating WoW. They literally outsourced improving their bad UI to the community, and the community did it FOR FREE. It worked perfectly for both sides.

I agree and disagree. I agree because absolute freedom is absolute good. I disagree because a new player who watch streamers are given false first impression on how the game looks and plays. It's also somewhat damning to admit that you dont want to improve your UI because you let players work on it for free.

I got so used to being able to fully customize my interface that I really miss it when playing other games.

Same, if I cant move around actionbars and UI elements as I please then I'm turned off by the game.

what the fuck is the problem that you need to install it to be able to do absolutely cutting edge content?

If I were to guess then it's the part where high-end competition is decided by player skill and not mountain of paratext you need to go through first.

I miss Wrath era WoW.

You only have to look at key completion stats to know retail is collapsing.
No one gives a shit about it except the dwindling pool of elitists that derive self worth from it.
The game has been decimated by years of artificial difficulty wafflestomped into endgame to appease people who've made their identity, even career, about being good at a casual fantasy mmo.

The problem is having all of these redundant attack skills in the first place

This is the main issue. It's so fucking bad right now on some classes.
In example - what the fuck is the point of this ability being part of rotation? WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT FOR? It doesn't even have cool animation...

It's the most popular form of wow.

no it's not
it's more popular on social media because all the big personalities who play it are old fags with large fanbase

M+ and mythic raiding is DYING bro.

yea, because like I said, blizzard is making it too hard
there are just too many things happening too quickly

quit during trannyflight because unholy DPS involved 20 buttons and 10 of those were CDs

Is unholy still CD-loaded with huge downtime or is it worth coming back to in the current >absolute state of WoW?

Legion's "class fantasy" rogue changes were they gayest thing they ever did to wow, I don't get who actually likes all the retarded pirate and ninja RP in your abilities.

it’s it worth it to return to playing pozzed dogshit?

You already know the answer

wotlk classic pop collapses 3 months in because people are bored out of their mind spamming 3 buttons

Warcraft is a franchise, not a single game.
The issue is how any form of masculinity or aggression has been stripped away as they continue to infantilize the brand.

total dopamine addicted gruelgoys

this is for disabled people and women, it incurs longer GCD. funny how redditors are seething at this, i guess they think a 1.3 GCD retard will compete with them

Pussification of culture. Remember the Warhammer 40k kids comics they brought out a few years back? lol

It's literally just Asmongold fans that haven't played in many years, if ever, but are very invested in shitting on it. The response to this has been very positive overall and it wasn't until Asmon's video that the WoWcast got spammed with dislikes and negative comments.

just dogshit designers
all specs that have "press X to buff your dmg for X seconds" are just retard design
ret pala, rogue, feral
rogue was just fine with slice and dice, it made you attack faster and interact with other passives (energy on off hand hits)

you're at a mercy of which faggot gets to design your spec
senior designers probably had first dibs which is why cool classes like DK had all 3 specs well made

cultist frogtrannies defending the game playing itself

You are beyond help

I have played HS since WotOG and I am 100% certain that the "fanart" in question was used in blizzard's promotional material for the game.

unholy, affliction and subtlety are currently most un-fun specs to play
nothing changed about unholy since df

funny how redditors are seething at this

redditors (like you) are actually loving this
you have to go back

It's there so that if you were a moron and were out of energy going into your shadow dance window if you can press it and not waste the window.

Why is class balance so out of whack these days? Is it really that hard to balance specs? Just look at the data, look what specs are underperforming, diagnose why - buff where needed.
MM hunters got a whole ass rework in a random patch, they can clearly do that. We have thousands of raid/dungeon/pvp sims coming in daily. It's not like Blizz is lacking the diagnostics to figure this shit out and yet some classes clearly outperform everyone else it's not even funny and is the reason why meta-fagging has become such a cancerous part of retail.

the outlaw change was excellent though

yeah buffs that do nothing but buff damage and nothing else don't have a place in the game honestly. They phased out trinkets like that in favor of giving them somewhat more interesting effects already.

What's wrong with Aff? Is it just people being allergic to tab dotting again?

RIP
Literally the only reason I'd play WoW
Fuck Blizz

Ret Pally's wings are thematically cool and a substantial buff. They don't belong in the same category as the "increase damage by 5% for 3 seconds" shit that bloats the hell out of specs.

I don't know whose in charge these days, but class designers simply not giving a shit has been the norm since vanilla.

absolutely
there is nothing fun in having to track and keep those buffs up
they have nothing going for them, no animation, no gameplay interaction
pointless clutter

If wings just give you a 20% damage buff they're bad
If wings give you 20% damage and increased holy power generation it's fine
If they give you 20% damage and increased haste for each cast you're looking forward to pressing it every time

that's a cooldown
we're talking about buffs you have to keep up
but wings just giving %dmg is still bad
it should be giving haste as well
using cooldowns should make you feel it both visually and gameplay wise

It's not a terrible idea. People over the age of 50 can now do most content in WoW and maybe even low M+ keys/normal raids.
As usual, Blizzard is terrible about optics. All these Twitter/YouTube influencers who don't understand the game are clowning on it now, and the retards who follow them (who also don't understand the game) will parrot them even though they've never touched WoW in their life.
For the uninitiated: If you use this, you're only going to do about 50% of your DPS max, depending on the class. It's ironically not much better than button-mashing.

Class balance is bad but even worse is how anti-melee the game has become. Range heal or dps have a much easier time with 99% of mechanics because every motherfucking melee NPC in this game has AoE shit now you have to constantly dodge. It's so hyper and overdesigned, Blizzard really needs to chill the fuck out with dumb "avoid the cone" mechanics stacking x200 on top of each other. It's relentless and not fun.

What do you mean? WoW has had /castsequence macros since at least late Wrath which is basically the same thing, and I even used it when playing Arcane mage in ICC

vanillas class are the way they are because they couldn't finish all the classes in time and held off on completing them till TBC. It's why most classes only have 1 functioning spec at end game in vanilla

The pivot back was because FFXIV got popular and that had "complex" rotations so Blizzard went back to doing those. But making the rotations complex again started alienating the people that liked how easy things were so now they're trying to appease the hardcore MMO players that want to push 20 button rotations and the casuals that don't want that at all.

In FFXIV they just added some retard classes for people that don't want to press too many buttons while having some with much more in depth rotations. WoW has an even easier way to implement that because they can just make some retard friendly specs for casuals but then the furries on Druid might through a fit if they can't be feral because it's too hard but they really really want to be a cat.

Retail andies keep harping on about how Classic rotations aren't demanding enough because not enough icons on their hotbars are glowing

single button mode gets announced

OH MY SCIENCE!! IS THAT A HECCIN SINGLE BUTTON ROTATORINO??? SO PROGRESSIVE AND DEI FOR ACCESSIBILITY MY INCOMPETENT ASS IS TOTALLY GONNA USE IT DESPITE NOT BEING DISABLED AND CALL YOU LE CRIPPLE HATING BIGOT WHEN YOU MAKE FUN OF ME

is there a bigger breed of goi nigger cattle than retail players?

is there a bigger breed of goi nigger cattle than retail players?

Anon Babble posters

it's a terrible idea
it devalues gameplay and if enough people start using it the point of properly designing gameplay is just gone
what they should've done instead is just make it so talent tree has noob options that remove keys and incorporate them in regular spells, which legion had, and should've been expanded upon
shit like

you can no longer use ice lance, but your frost bolt will now occasionally shoot automatic ice lance

blizzard now spawns frost orb when it hits X enemies

makes it easy but not completely brain dead literal 1 button cookie clicker

Tab dotting is annoying as ever, but affli got especially bad compared to SP or other lock specs. Rotation is clunky as fuck, you have to track 4 dots, 2 of which have cast time making them even more annoying to use, and the rest of rotations are long cooldowns. Your primary spender is "dot eruption" which feels so unimpactful to use that I'd rather just spam shadow bolt.

NTA but macros got HEAVILY kneecapped now compared to how they were back in actual vanilla

you could unironically play the game on mobile with this feature

just imagine you would just need to tap on your phone and you could play the game like that

You are a schizophrenic.

Based and true, people here are unironically addicted to this retarded dying place and when you point it out they get hostile

60% loss compared to what? the ideal rotation, the 99% percentile, or something else?

No you can't. Macros don't allow for dynamic spell choices. It's an old blizzard design choice to make them not "play the game for you.

Casters trigger the global GCD at the start of the cast time therefore invalidating the longer gcd duration as long as the cast-time is greater. Have you ever played a mage? I swear to god

I don't think that timeline makes any sense.

That's effectively what the 1button will be.

It's a positive change but for stupid reasons, and everyone's criticizing it for that.
It's another time blizzard has decided to bandaid a bandaid rather than fix the underlying problem; ie the game being a convoluted dying mess of hotbarslop floor vomit and addon arms races.
Fucking californians.

you can play wow on phone without it too
controller
even if we make it so you have to tap, it's possible
but it might be too high apm for intense mythic difficulty
we're getting vanilla+ on android btw

troontle wow

How can such a big company be so delusional?

I firmly believe that the media industry is no longer capitalist. Media and entertainment is no longer made to be sold to fans. It's made by the creator for the creator and their friends.

Dot eruption is cringe but dot tracking is the whole point of playing Aff and why it's fun.

Vanilla macros could literally do 1 button stuff like

if stealth then use cheap shot else use sinister strike unless 5 combo then use eviscerate

That was blocked in early vanilla, so it has long not been possible to do something like this.
But up until TWW macros could "click" other macros, which enabled infinite macro-chaining and addons could abuse this to make semi-automated rotation buttons. But that was blocked in TWW as well. They are slowly removing more and more access from macros/addons and when they block combat event access like they announced now it will be the end of 99% of useful addons.

I agree, I think SoD also does rotations pretty well, it has a good balance between simplicity and complexity.

No, it's because Ulduar is too hard for the average niller.

They reduced the number of abilities in BfA... and people bitched and moaned because Blizzard was dumbing the game down too much. The complexity of the game skyrocketed with Dragonflight and the new talents. And now with hero talents classes are even more complex.

The "problem" with WoW is that everyone wants the game to be something different, So no matter what they do, there will always be someone who's going to complain.

based and accurate
retailniggers only care about looking superior
most of their game is literally fisher price tier and they all use addons that tell them exactly where to go and what to do, no brain involved

It's funny how tanks are basically the retard specs that they should be playing because they're super easy to play rotation-wise and bosses have almost 0 tank mechanics but everyone is avoiding tanking because M+ is pure cancer to tanks

i play a frost mage on turtle and honestly, maybe it's just because i'm old and perpetually annoyed now, but i appreciate the build's simplicity in that every single talent is basically "make frostbolt better" or "give frostbolt a proc". i simply can't be arsed to memorize a rotation with flashing lights and graphics and shit on screen. i just want to press my main nuke and kill shit

You can still do this with most DPS classes. Just don't take the active ability talents and pick the passives instead. Some specs like Ret Pally and BM Hunter are also inherently extremely simple; you just press the buttons that light up and don't change your rotation during the fights.
You won't do as much DPS as the meta build, but you'll do more than the one-button rotation.

you're just killing your braincells even further with that
unless you have some actual mentally tough job, then it's fine

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1 button rotations, they're 1 step closer to bringing WoW to consoles, it'll happen.

yes but they need to go further and make it for all specs
1 button macro is just a lazy and dogshit idea
classic blizzard

I like how Dr K said
"Thor, I don't think you're a narcissist, but if a narcissist went through what you did then he would end up in the exact same position."
It's a very diplomatic way of putting it.

Will the single button rotation include consumables like mana gems and robes of the archmage?

Can't nerf babby classes like palas or druids, they're the paypiggies of the dying game and to piss them off is to risk hemorrhaging your playerbase even harder.

The basedness continues

people are now too dumb to play wow

the consequences of AI have already been disatrous, idiots are easier to exploit

Global IQ has peaked a while ago and dropped long before AI became mainstream.

min/max autism makes it so people will always google the right meta builds and attempt to play them because that's the "right" way to play the game. it doesn't matter what blizzard offers, 99% of people will have the same cookie cutter specs regardless.

rogue specs froim vanilla have been completely retarded. they spent several expansions not knowing what the fuck to do with the 3 rogue specs; which one for pve, which one for pvp, then some random spec that sucks for both every other expansion.

they should have just made rogue 2 specs with one focusing on pvp and one on pve and instead of your """""""""""""""""rotation""""""""""""""""" being 50 sinsister strikes then evis/rupture they should have make rogue fun

Why is class balance so out of whack these days?

these days

jej

bunch of autistic retards who supposedly don't care about an MMO suddenly a very upset when some optional feature that the bottom 10% of the pop will use because their e-daddy told them to be

It's in its infancy and a lot of it doesn't work.
I think what ion wants it to do is use something like a sim APL, so it should use everything on a context sensitive basis, in the future.

Hope blizzard sees this bro

min/max meta cookie cutter

nonsense
blizzard designs specs to be played in 1 way only
then it takes the playerbase 1 day to discover which way that is and then everyone plays it like so
actual unusual and not-intended builds have been rare for over 10 years now

Pretty weak argument in favour of this addition, surely you can do better than that.

I like SP because it has 2 dots, you can apply both at once with single cast or use Shadow Crash on cooldown for AoE application. And then using Mind Flay extends their duration a little bit. It's pretty fun and comfy. Affli just goes too far.

Game is being optimised for mobile release.

i don't care about it at all because it has no bearing on anything i do, why do you basedtendo redditors care about someone playing the game in a much worse way?

watch retail streamer who keeps mentioning not being able to get into classic because combat is not interesting enough

all he does on stream is do dailies, farm achievements from two expansions ago and farm old raids for mogs

literally every mob he engages with dies in two hits before there's even a chance for a proc or something else 'interesting' to occur

it doesn't remotely matter, you guys are such classic Anon Babbleermin that I can't help but laugh

this change was already tested on the PTR and characters are doing like 40% less dps than people playing their characters normally, it only exists to help the lowest rungs of players keep playing like people who are literally handicapped

but of course everything is exploded out of proportion by grifter faggots and all the cattle who follow them (you)

anyway it's not like anything changed, Anon Babble is ffxiv central so it's dumb praise for that shit game and neverending hatred for WoW (absolute obsession kek)

i don't play WoW to become smarter

Man, you should become game designer, this is really good idea that I'd love to see implemented.
Even as a tryhard parser on my main, when playing alts I often spec into "least extra buttons" talents just to not be forced to track so many cooldowns and procs. Being able to just go full "easy mode gameplay" would be perfect as an option.

I don't even know what eceleb you're talking about, I don't obsess over that stuff like you

it's the classicfags who, as always, have been the vocal minority since that mode was introduced. Ignore them.

Imagine being this much of an obsessed cultist LMAO

I'm neither of those anons but it almost feels like they added the one button rotation that has a major nerf to damage just to distract from the fact that they're adding hekili as a default feature.

People will flock to the more egregious change(1 button rotations) and defenders will have ammo like you just used to say "oh it's a huge damage decrease!" while people ignore that Blizzard just turned the entire game into whack a mole instead of just healing. You can literally just hit the buttons that light up even when you play manually. Every spec is now ret.

brings up FFXIV out of nowhere

absolute obsession kek

Horrid falseflag
Kys

Rand called these people second handers.
You find a lot of them in mmo games.

Tanks and healers have multiple viable builds, depending on the content you're doing, if you want to prioritize damage over tankiness/healing, and your own preference.

DPS classes don't have this kind of freedom because there's always going to be a mathematically best build that deals the highest amount of damage. What is saying is that you can often choose to sacrifice 2% of your theoretical DPS and remove a 30s CD from your action bars. And I emphasize "theoretical", because the "right" build deals more damage only if you remember to press that button every 30s.

DPS classes having 3 specs after MoP revamp was the biggest mistake.

keep saying "it doesn't matter" about every little garbage change blizz makes for 20 years

wonder how we got to that slimy throbbing humonculous that is 2025 WoW

Watching retail fags speed run to terminal cancer within two years with SoD has been entertaining/sad.

It’s an autistic WoWshill
He’s been at it for years. He is genuinely the biggest blizzard cultist I’ve ever seen. In his eyes they can do literally nothing wrong

That makes no sense, SoD bears almost no similarity to retail.

you guys should be talking about the atrocious "faction" storyline in 11.1.7 instead this shit is a nothingburger. You are literally punished for using it and it's meant for the EQ refugee grannies

Nigger, just go play classic it's literally right there you can spam frostbolt as much as you want

Are those mythical minmaxers in the room with us right now? Everyone brings them up all the time and acts like every single WoW player performs perfect rotation using perfectly simmed gear and optimal talents during every single moment they play the game. Which is, of course, absolute bullshit.
Get out of your M+/raiding bubble and observe how other random players play the game. Nobody does perfect rotation, they often have random suboptimal talents, and they just equip whatever has higher ilvl. This is the majority of the player base.
For them this single-button rotation helper might be big improvement in dps.

Tanks and healers have multiple viable builds, depending on the content you're doing, if you want to prioritize damage over tankiness/healing, and your own preference.

those "builds" are simply changing stats and pressing 1 different button
not much of a build and it's still pre-determined

Bring back legion dh

if any other game added this as a feature you guys wouldn't give a shit
how is it different from the button assist shit that's in fighting games? no one at a serious level is going to use it. it's for the hyper casuals who just wants to read quests or whatever

Honestly S Priest has always been jumping around into absurd difficulty to now where they're actually relatively way easier to play. Same with Arcane. Some of what happened to Arcane last xpac was arguably worse in terms of the sheer amount of shit you had to do and none of it ever felt good

criticize WoW

get called a XIVfag

What causes this?

It's mostly a dps pug player/midcore guild issue.

You are retarded, classic does not get new content
People will not play a game forever with the same stagnant content and no updates, clown take
"hey you liked that thing, how about you just do that thing forever with no variety or variation" something that no human being would ever do.
Nor was classic even "spam frostbolt", it was spam frostbolt with situational use of other abilities. Which is as it should be, not "hit these buttons every 12 seconds to juggle a bunch of retarded short duration buffs or procs", that is not good design, it does not allow for anything interesting. Lucifron requiring you to heavily dispel as a mage, something you rarely do, interesting. Cone of cold kiting for skeletons in naxx? Interesting. There are plenty of small variations on a bunch of fights that keep people engaged. Rotations keep NOBODY engaged

sub rogue is fun as fuck leave it alone you faggot

Are those mythical minmaxers in the room with us right now?

No, they're in Blizzard's room

The best and most fun that Shadow Priest has ever been was in BfA. But then minmaxing raidtrannies complained that void eruption having near 100% uptime and just spamming void bolt is too easy, and some fucking retarded designer listened and made it into the fucking mess we have today. Then that faggot left blizzard and nobody bothered to do anything substantial with SP ever since. The spec is fucked forever.

half of the thread has never even touched WoW and it shows

Keep coping cultist tranny

maybe try turtle WoW. they've got a ton of vanilla+ content and are planning more, like post-Naxx raids and such. all talent trees have been reworked to some degree, but frost mage still plays like a frost mage just with one extra channeled ability for boss nuking

Complaining about an accessibility feature in a game that you've never played is freak behavior

Ah yes, the ANCIENT SYMBOLS OF POWER

generating less energy than a fucking cup of tea

increasing my damage by TEN FUCKING PERCENT

...for 10 seconds...

SO ANCIENT
SUCH POWER

That ability almost feels like a fucking joke

Nigger, PCT and VPR is a thing and Wrath Combo is one of the most popular addons next to NoClippy. This mud flinging with WoW wont improve either game.

rogues like thistle tea

let's turn it into an ability

me too honestly. I can see why they are slowly making wow a pay to play game for infants.

it is slowly erasing itself so that when there is a true "WOW killier" it will be comparable to a game that plays itself

Nigga, anyone that plays wow in fucking 2025 is cattle, it's all there's left
Also just give up on wow, it is already lost

I know, right? This was always a thing. I raided most raids using the one-click button macro addon, which just rotated abilities accordingly.
Fuck me healers also had such addon, that all you had to do was click on names and it would pick best healing spells. Like, if you had multiple wounded people around the person you clicked on, it would cast aoe heal.
PvE was always a joke in WoW.

You're wrong, what else can I say. You clearly don't play the game.

ackshually thistle tea is talent ability now
you can even get second talent that automatically uses it when you fall below certain energy level

Except I have played it and I can tell you it’s a bad change that undermines gameplay in a VIDEO GAME.
But obviously you can’t grasp that as a cultist. Blizz can do no wrong to you

I would agree with you if this did your rotation perfectly and there were no penalties.
However, it's a 50% DPS loss for most specs, sometimes a bit more, sometimes a bit less. Why should I give a fuck about a feature that none of the peers I play with will even use?
This is no different from auto combos in fighting games for people who just want to participate in the game and need it for accessibility purposes.

WoW won. All other MMOs rival it, but fall hilariously short

Except XIV which has more active players but let’s ignore that

50% DPS loss to what baseline? Top 0.1% parses? Average heroic raider?
Typical player is already doing like 30% of the DPS that top players do, does it mean it will improve their DPS by 20%?

She actually, genuinely believes xiv has more players

kekaroo

even if it did, which it doesnt but lets pretend, theres no actual "game" to play in xiv

steamcharts.com/app/39210 it has less than Warframe

steamcharts

retard of the year award

It's closer to retail than it is to classic.
Should SoD stick around rather than them working on a 'real' Classic+ i give it 12 months before they add shit like M+ and design everything else around raid logging dad gamers.

Nobody uses the Steam client, it'd be like if they added WoW to Steam. Everyone is sticking with bnet instead.

I remember during wotlk some hunter specs could macro their entire rotation to a single button and just spam it to dop DPS charts because armor pen was so fucking busted

Sorry sis but that’s the truth. Only people left playing WoW are transfurries like yourself

vanilla didn't have one button macros, the most it had was trinket macros, one button macros didn't exist until the new macro system in tbc, which continued into wrath, then was disabled in cata

Nobody tell sister here that xiv is filled - FILLED - with troons out the wazoo

/wowg/ is currently seething at these threads

And they are all WoWfugees. Majority of tranny shit started during the exodus when you brought your cancer over

Finally admitting to be a troon containment zone

thank you for your service xivvie, make sure those freakazoid troons don't escape

that's a lie

I played the game until SL
you trying to tell me that blizzard suddenly shifted how they design stuff?
yea right
you're clueless

Having stopped playing after raiding ICC for the twentieth time, it all blends together.

I thought everyone went back to WoW? What’s the new narrative sis? I guess XIV really does have more players?

you trying to tell me that blizzard suddenly shifted how they design stuff?

NTA but literally yes lol
Much, much has changed about the game's overall design

They did in the very next expansion.

Still better than XIV

:3

But why did XIV lose?

How do you contain them from WoW when it’s your whole playerbase?

The race to the bottom is real.

Maybe this will be better then
warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/42
fflogs.com/zone/statistics/68?boss=98
Why does the latest Savage raid have fewer parses than the latest Mythic raid in WoW over the last two weeks, even though Mythic is the least popular raid difficulty and was released two months ago?

Nigger, in Vanilla addons were literally allowed to invoke `CastSpell(spellID)` function. Decursive and Healbot were based on this and conditionally decided for you which spell would be cast on button press. Just like this new 1-button rotation thing.
Only about a year into Vanilla this function got protected and could only be called from Blizzard code.

/wowg/ cultists raid the thread

thread becomes shitflinging about other game

Great

Everyone did, you're right, except troons and browns don't count as "people" so they stayed in troonal troontasy troonteen

Retards pays more than 30 bucks monthly for a garbage game like this

Subscription in video games was a mistake a nd only blizzdrones defends it.

Meanwhile Oblivion has more players than wow conbined and it is a fucking single player game

Then why is WoW still by far the most pozzed MMO?
I think you’re projecting here, sis

This is honestly the biggest nothing burger ever, it's literally just a set of training wheels. It just means shitters will be able to clear shitter content better and there's a basic baseline for DPS. It's still a million times better to actually press your buttons and you won't be able to clear higher level content with that

30 bucks monthly

what kind of shithole third world country are you from?

dodges every point made

You don't play either game lol

browns

Don’t kid yourself there

That is just sad

You hate videogames faggot, you are a mentally ill tranny and blizzdrone addict.

holy fuck lol this is embarassing
xivvies really do not play their """game""" huh, just erp with minors all day?

durr your game is troony tranny tranny land

I think you’re projecting

WTF WHY ARE YOU IGNORING MY WELL THOUGHT OUT ARGUMENT

Why do people who don't play WoW get so upset over WoW?

sorry but xiv is below osrs at this point

Wouldn't the actual answer be split runs?

Laughing at a retard falling over doesn’t mean you’re upset over him

it's really strange to see WoW on an uptrend if anything. Why is this?

because they played it "one time back in the day" (over 10 years ago) so now they think they get to still have a conversation about it
Just because World of Warcraft has the same name does not mean it is the same game

what is subscription plans

Ah i forgot, blizzdrones and XIVtrannies pays for yearly subs like the good cvcks xhey are.
But since you answered me in full butthurt

I see the trans got his feelings hurt.

11.1 was a good patch

jewgle trends

This cope every time without fail

Glad we agree that WoW is the most pozzed then

you've been provided three sources
what evidence do you have to combat it?

This is actually useful for playing on Steam deck.

And none of them were player numbers

b-but raid parses

Who cares when WoW players have 5+ alts

chromaggus with the OG decursive was peak wow though
and so was ICC with AVR.

...you think people run mythic raids on 5 alts each week 2 months after the raid?

last luckybancho census said xiv had less than 1m active characters. those are pre shadowbringers numbers. "the wow exodus" doesn't exist anymore

The end of legion had very good class design.

The issue is that they locked essential abilities behind artifact power and certain legendaries. Almost ten years later I am still baffled at their decision to make legendaries completely RNG.

nta but some people are def doing that, yeah. sell runs come to mind.

There are multiple versions of the game now. If you're bored of Retail (or you don't like Retail at all), you can jump to Cata, or Vanilla, or SoD, or Pandaria soon. And viceversa.
Which means more people are playing WoW as a whole, for longer.

be priest

assigned decursive duty on chrom

entire 15 minutes fight is hiding behind corner, moving out when the debuffs are applied, pressing single hotkey multiple times so Decursive can automatically cleanse raid members, then going back behind the corner to regenerate mana and not get hit by aoe

peak wow gameplay indeed...

warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/42?difficulty=4 who the fuck is playing auggie in heroic raid? I would be pissed

cata

only pvpers play that

vanilla

it's dead. streamers left

sod

niche mode. kinda fun

mop

it's in beta

At least we can play MoP soon which had actual good class design

That kind of encounter specific problem solving is the peak of mmos though.

one button macros have existed since classic with hunter and have expanded to every class over the years. lazymacros forum has been around since at least wrath and there's stuff out there that's leagues better than what wow is getting. the only people who are actually mad about the official implementation of 1 button assist are just bad players who think they're secretly awesome epic players being held back by phantom boogiemen using rotation assist or boomers who don't know that these macros have been around for nearly 20 years.

There will be an exploit that allows you to use this WITHOUT the downsides

On top of the numerous currently active invincibility exploits that have existed for years

Heh. This is gonna be fun.

First time playing wow?

stuck with the end talents so no kino kj cunning

into the trash it goes

60 buttons 13 years ago: good

60 buttons now: bad

what changed?

a very small percentage of the playerbase touches mythics and the few that I know only play one character exclusively.
outside of the top 50 guilds this is rare

get to play comfy slow arms again

Wake me up when they block people joining in premade groups in unrated battlegrounds.

the healing meta is pretty cancerous

IQ levels dropped significantly

They do, the retards thinks they need to stay ahead of the curve to not be benched, plus shitzard made mythic dungeon shit a E-sport and the retards wants to participate on the MDI

having ranks 1-4 of every spell on your bar: good

having a lot of unique spells on your bar: bad

just players getting old and crotchety and angry/fearful of change

I have to agree when you put it that way. It's peak teamwork and unique responsibilities assigned to people in order to overcome the challenge. I remember in very very early Vanilla it was possible to be close to the boss fight but not get put in combat, so my guild always had 1-2 healers just hanging behind the fight and ressing people who died lol. Boring duty, but pretty clever problem solving (they fixed that and introduced combat resses short after).
Something like this is completely lacking from modern WoW gameplay where every player has main character syndrome and must PUMP BIG NUMBERS else he will complain.

That has nothing to do with what I said. In the past, there was only Retail: you either liked that version of that game, or you unsubbed. If you ran out of thing to do, you also unsubbed. And if you're unsubbed, you're probably not googling "best way to make money in wow" or something like that.

Now there are multiple versions of the game. If you are bored of one version, you can play some other version. People are engaged with WoW (as a whole) for longer, so they google "best way to make money in wow" for longer. And that's why it's trending up.

Well, wow stopped being a real mmo like eve online a while ago.
The genre is defined by overcoming friction, not expressing skill.

ooc rezer was the best job, be shitter, do nothing, get epics

That kind of degenerate gameplay was literally what they were trying to avoid in Vanilla WoW compared to other MMOs, where "buffers" would press their buttons once every 10 minutes and then go AFK. There are a bunch of GDC conferences where they talk about it.

Damn. XIV really fucking won didn’t it

The problem is they made it known on fucking CAMERA that they know very explicitly what is wrong with the game but rather than fix or rework ANY OF IT they introduce a one-button rotation command, it's possibly the most tone-deaf kick in the balls they could have conceived of and I don't say that lightly knowing how severely fucking retarded they all are.

i dont care what casuals do, as long as they stay the fuck out of my groups

Wanting to pay money to Blizzard

If you want MoP NOW, play on Sheilun.
stormforge.gg/en

It's boring doing a 10-button rotation too. Maybe design gameplay better than "cycle these moves in this order over and over for every encounter forever".

Yeah, but macroes from 3rd parties = good
macroes from blizzard = bad

bayzed

Is there decent legion or bfa private servers while we are on that topic?

You're going to be hitting that button in your shadow dance window even if you were for some reason at max energy so you're retarded

unironically who gives a fuck how people press their buttons, only sweatlords of the smelliest variety care if people use this
t. former top 200 world raider

See: They pruned abilities and simplified rotations in the past, and people complained. Then classes became too complex, and people complained. So they decided to keep complex rotations while also adding an easy-mode for casuals, and people complain.

Just to be clear, personally I do think this one-button rotation thing is retarded. And that classes are too complex nowadays. But everyone has a different opinion on how the game "should" be designed, so someone is going to complain no matter what they do.

Multiboxxers finally got something out of this expac...

Based and Pay-to-Win pilled

Dont know, ask in Anon Babble general. There is Tauri - tauriwow.com that is small and MoP yet, but supposed to become Legion in the near future.

Plate spinning DoT timers is fun

Autistic or coping. Call it.

we want to avoid "buffers" having to press their buttons once every 10 minutes and then go AFK

instead we will make "buffers" cast their 5 min blessings individually on 39 raid members repeatedly because first one will already be falling off by the time they're done buffing everyone

that is not degenerate gameplay at all

Back to your containment board troon.

Grummz really make WoW cultists mad

Looks like this is similar to revolution in runescape. It's possible to play with auto-abilities if you want to but everyone at the top playing manually will be doing 30% more damage than you. I don't see this as a problem at all, but of course asmongoloid viewers will shit their pants over anything.

every class in vanilla gets pigeon holed to a tiny portion of their spells in a raid, not a lot of thought went into raiding

Because he, Pirat_Nation, and Assmongler are all grifting niggers that don't know what the fuck they're talking about and act as though this is some game-breaking thing when it's literally fucking worthless.

Wrong, dead wrong, you fucking retard. You understood literally nothing about how it will work and just "decided" that you had it all figured out.
All testing done so far on PTR realms show that one button mode is doing 70% less DPS than manual (even sub-optimal) play.

Kill yourself.

This, so much this. I literally shot myself in the foot to spite an xivtroon today. TAKE THAT!!

so you're agreeing with me?
turn your PC off and go touch some grass before you pop an aneurysm

ok it turns out i may have been very upset and read your post wrong. sorry
I do not like how many secondary asmoniggers are spreading lies about the one button feature and read your post too quickly. My bad

However, it's a 50% DPS loss for most specs

doing 70% less DPS than manual

Few more posts and we will get to 100% less DPS lmao
If it's on PTR why won't someone make a proper comparison with data and numbers? So far it's all guessing and rough estimates.

damn someone on Anon Babble admitted fault and apologized you must be an AI

anybody still paying for/playing blizzard gmaes is part of the problem.

I'm sadly human and I was just mad and in the heat of the moment

retail is braindead easy!

but it's also too hard and complicated!

make up your mind classic zoomzooms

That kind of degenerate gameplay was literally what they were trying to avoid in Vanilla WoW compared to other MMOs

trying to avoid

I'm not saying they succeeded, or that they did a great job. But they did try to give everyone something to do and buttons to press throughout the entire encounter. Play, let's say, a buffer in Lineage 2 and you'll see what I mean: the optimal gameplay was to press all your buttons and then sit to regenerate mana, until it was time to buff everyone again.

So, if Anon alt-tabbed into the game only to dispel once in a while, it was a failure from Blizzard. Because that's exactly the type of gameplay they were trying to avoid.

How has no one made a good mmo in all of these years? You really have to be amazed at how good old blizzard was to make smash hit after smash hit. Diablo, Warcraft, Starcraft, Early WoW. They just took what worked and made it even better. So much crap from old mmos that sucked like being massively penalized for dying, all bosses and rare enemies being open world meant you had to be part of a clique to farm them, horrid combat. And then they made WoW that improved on all of those things, covered it up in amazing design, music, cool classic fantasy dnd stuff. How can no other company do what Blizzard did two decades ago? We are so overdue for a new amazing mmo and just nothing comes close. They all just either copy wow or completely lack the polish of their old games.

I'd imagine the variance is huge and that people testing this on the ptr are bad at experimental design.

How has no one made a good mmo in all of these years?

MMO is a niche genre that got monopolized by WoW. There aren't enough players to justify making a new one. Even Riot silently cancelled their hyped League of Legends MMO when they realized it will be massive flop no matter what they do.

i simply can't be arsed to memorize a rotation with flashing lights and graphics and shit on screen.

This is the biggest problem for me. I'm speaking as someone who's played modern WoW including TWW a good bunch, tried out 10+ specs of different classes and they always boil down to the same thing: filling my screen with weakauras tracking procs, dots, buffs and debuffs. You don't even look at the game world, the models, the animations, any of that shit. Your eyes are permanently glued to your weakauras and UI in general because oh shit I only have half a second to decide my most optimal next ability. OH CRAP my dbm just blew an airhorn into my ear oh fuck oh fuck I only have 300 milliseconds at best to react before I miss a GCD and my DPS suffers 30%. Fuck that shit. It's not enjoyable. Every single spec has way too much shit to keep track of. The game is literally unplayable without a weakaura setup, which is why every casual is quitting en masse. You can't ask a 50 year old dadgamer to spend 5 hours setting up weakauras before he's allowed to play the game. It'll never work.

Ambush

Crimson Tempest

Deadly Poison

Fucking what?? Applying Deadly Poison is part of rotation? No wonder it is doing 70% less DPS.

It checks if deadly poison is applied and if it isn't it casts it, it doesn't cast that exact rotation 100% of the time. Just don't let it run out and you won't cast it during fights.

Is this like dynamic/steady flight that I have to switch between, or can I have this single-button assistant along my normal action buttons and use it wherever I feel like not bothering with proper rotation?

Okay, so it's not that dumb. Can I set the spells/priorities or is that pre-determined?

finally, paladin gameplay for every class

Fairly certain it's predetermined. that's why projected DPS losses is between 30-60% for some classes. Classes that like to stack up for a giant burst phase it just kind of ignores, and classes that depend on high APM instant casts like Fire Mage and Enhance Shaman get hit harder because of the GCD increase.

It also detects it's an AoE situation which is when it swaps to FoK etc.

The game still has bugs from LEGION. the game still has issues with scaling that have been around since they introduced it. Blizz is following the Tarkov tactic which is to do nothing until big streamers complain about it or it starts affecting their numbers.

there's a difference between fun bloat and unfun bloat

Fun bloat:

Mind Control: Take control of an enemy humanoid for 10 seconds, freely accessing their abilities

Dark Simulacrum: copy your target's last spell cast

Dark Transformation: transform into a demon

Unfun bloat:

Dickswinger strike: strike an enemy for 5 damage, 25% bonus damage if used after tittyslapper blow

Tittyslapper blow: strike an enemy for 5 damage, 50% bonus damage if Cumslurper is active

Semenblaster wallop: strike an enemy for 5 damage, afflicts the enemy with Cumslurper for 3 seconds

Numbers up grinding games are flawed this way, ARTS eliminated/minimized the grindan parts to accelerate the only parts that matter which is pvp though for many rice farming is still extended unreasonably.

Its gonna be determined by 'the current theorycraft optimum'
What that actually means is they will go on simulationcraft.org and feed the APL for each spec into the game.

WoW? No, I don't play.
Let me tell you something. I like Classic, but WoW will never be great again.

It's just your typical giant IT project in giant corporation. Stuff that takes an hour to fix is stretched to weeks because of procedures, SCRUM, workflows, documentation and approvals. Bugfixes have extremely low prio unless critical (streamer attention makes anything critical), all the resources are allocated to pumping new features to please stakeholders. Blizzard (like every giant corporation) is forever stuck in the "failure/implosion" stage and nothing will ever change that.

You know this is to facilitate bots, right?

XIVtrannies... it's over.

Anon bots already use an automatic rotation thats why they are bots

I like to know what skills in advance allow me to move, so this might be counterintuitive for some classes/specs
But worth a try if you get complaints from the tank about pulling too much threat

Rogues are like, spending seconds doing nothing, so this can only be a good thing

Also. Does the 0.2s also get affected by Haste or is it added on to the final GCD?

Every spec is now ret.

and ret is the single most popular spec in the entire game despite being dogshit in the tier list so why is this a bad thing? people are clearly enjoying it

The problem is spec bloat, not ability bloat. Dps classes should not have 3 specs, this is what is causing the ability bloat because devs must come up with convoluted ways to make them play differently to justify each spec existence. Back in the days every rogue was just rogue, every spec used sinister strike and eviscerate, but nowadays every spec must be unique snowflake with unique spells, unique rotation and unique bloated garbage like that servers absolutely no purpose in enhancing the gameplay.
SPEC SQUISH NOW!

Archon fooled everyone in season of discovery to pay for an addon that turns players into numbers

autoplay comes out and infests the scene

nobody can tell who uses it and who doesn't before inviting

I fool retail players into paying for an addon that turns players into keyboards

if they weren't pussies they'd make sub rogue into a support spec that focuses on debuffing enemies like hemo used to

Turtle did that to sub and everyone hates it. No one who likes rogue wants to be a support bitch.

Blizzard ruined MMO's, which were already on a shitty state thanks to poopsockers in UO and other play 2 die and ragnarok p2w shit.
ESO fumbled the ball hard, Freefall was a bomb and Wildstar was sabotaged, and XIV is just fucking WoW with yoshitpiss paint.

The MMO should had died in wrath, but it didnt and now we have

aug showed they have no idea how to make a support

You think they don't know what to do with rogue? Lmao try hunter. They still can't decide between

nature ranger hippie forest protector

zookeeper furry beast summoner

high-tech tinker gunslinger sniper

stealthy camo guerilla vietkong trapmaster napalm thrower

And now on top of that mess we also got 3 "hero specs" to make it even dumber with

tyrande-wannabe edgelord

sylvanas-wannabe arcane mage

rexar-wannabe beastfucker

Hunter should be split into at least 2 separate classes long time ago. Not to mention ranged weapons are currently only used by 2 specs, it's about time we got new non-magical ranged class.

turdle players are just as inbred as their devs I don't care about what they're doing
The biggest issue with Aug is that they have nothing to balance it against, if they just added a few more supports they could find a baseline for what they're supposed to bring to a group

The biggest issue with Aug was that it was the only support class in the entire game. People assumed they would start adding new support classes, or rework some existing specs into supports. But nope, only Aug.
Imagine adding a healer into a game that, up until that point, had no healers. If it's strong, it becomes mandatory for every single party comp.

The other issue is that they kept the party size at 5, instead of increasing it to 6. So people were pissed that Aug stole their slot in parties.

Wasn't aug fine it was just the playerbase being knuckledraggers like usual?

3 dps in group doing 50 dmg

1 aug in group doing 20 dmg

aug boosts 3 dps to 60 dmg

dps parse addons do not show this so all the player sees is aug doing 20 dmg so thus its bad

problem with aug is that the support role is gay and retarded. your performance depending entirely on your group's performance means it's only good in groups where everyone else is at least as good as- or better than you are. never mind when the support themselves also has to be good for it to be worth it to bring them along. but blizz fixed this retardation by simply giving them a free huge survivability buff to every group they're in, making them mandatory in every group where survival is a problem (see: all top groups), which then makes all the retards think they need an aug in every group as well even though it's retarded to bring outside of those groups.

anyway. support is a retarded role.

Dragunovi is a retard who doesnt know what he is doing, and even removed damage from holy shock, thus crippling holydins forever.

People saw that Blizzard fixed the classes in SoD and he is raging that Ascension is doing the same with Bronzebeard, while Epoch went full retarded with TBC shit people hated like powershifting, macrostancing and sealtwisting which were bugs and retards thinks it is mechanics when in fact it makes classes more shittier and terrible in pve and pvp

All healers should be converted to Aug-like supports.
Healer role is retarded and needs to be removed.

i never understood why they made everything raid wide in wrath, in tbc you had support classes that buffed their little group in the raid and it worked great, the only problem was bloodlust rotations which got fixed in other ways anyway

any idea if bronzebeard will be any good? I dont wanna touch turtle's 1.12 client jank

Support is a good role for people who have friends
You clearly don't

wow players

friends

healer is the only fun role the game has left

dps you don't even notice if what you are doing has any impact. you have no idea if your buttons are doing anything if you don't have a damage meter.

healer is the only fun role the game has left

Healer is the least satisfying of the roles in terms of character progression and playing anything other than raids/dungeons as a healer sucks or is close to impossible.
When you get better gear as a DPS it directly translates to how hard you hit, how fast you kill things, and it slowly turns you into unstoppable killing machine. When you get better gear as a tank you get more hp, better self healing, better survivability and also you can do more damage which turns you into unkillable juggernaut that can survive anything. And that is always useful because the primary gameplay element of every MMO is KILLING STUFF.
And as a healer? When you get better gear you can heal for more, but it doesn't translate to the feeling of being more powerful that other roles get. You can't kill stuff faster. You are expected to heal everyone to full anyway, and filling bars a little bit quicker doesn't give you any feeling of progress of your character. It's just the same as with worse gear. Healer role is useless and should be removed.
Masculine Men like getting better and more powerful. As a healer you're stuck as a permanent mediocre assistant to the players having real fun.

The same could be said about healers or tanks. The idea of a support isn't retarded per se, it's just that they randomly dropped ONE (1) support spec into the game and called it a day.

the retards paywalled bronzebeard like CoA and there wont be giveaways like CoA, lvl60 raiding is up now.

Healer is in a real fucked up position where your job can either be really fun, really boring, or outright impossible depending on the quality of your group. Both tank and dps isn't affected nearly as much by everyone else as healers are.

It's funny since when WoW came out, it was the very definition of super casual and watered down. You compare it to any MMO before it and it was like baby proof.

Play harder content.

MACROS ARE REAL

Increases the time between using abilities by 0.2 seconds.

What the fuck why?
I made macros to 1button shit in the past.
What the the hell happened?
I should mention I havent played in over 12 years.

I do, as a DPS, and I'm having FUN standing in fire to maximize my damage while you are stressing to keep me alive else it's your fault we wipe.

You're not playing hard content if you can stand in the fire and survive.

I'm the one who'se hard.

Yes.
People would just link damage meters and kick them.
Sasuga wow.

currently playing ele shaman on a wotlk server

Ele is most fun on tbc and wotlk. Nothing in the game gets my dick harder then double chainlightning crit

i can just link damage taken meter and call you out

Mods

All jokes aside this is a great accessibility feature. I’m sure it will be hard to keep it updated or ensure it’s always using the optimal rotation, but will allow more people to play competitively who have disabilities

why yes I am playing with an addon that calls out every instance of preventable damage in chat how did you know?

For me it's great lazyness feature. I won't use it in raids/M+, but for world quests or alts it will be perfect braindead gameplay button.

playing Slopzard WoW in [current year]

Have some dignity and find yourself a private server.

AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

shits on xiv for the xivcombo plugin

gets the addon as an official feature in wow

Barry Curse Strikes Again!

Three actual DPS classes dealt more damage than 2 DPS + Aug. What was so strong about Aug were its defensive buffs.
It was meta due to the way M+ was tuned these last couple of seasons: extremely high unavoidable damage, but forgiving timer as long as you didn't wipe. So not dying was more important than killing stuff fast. That's also why tanky classes, not the ones with the highest DPS, were meta.

At some point there was also a chain-CC meta, Aug also increases the duration of CCs.

People mocked MMO players like >pic at that time for pooping on socks and looking like retards for obvious reasons.
It is no surprise that all of the south park episode was in fact based on true Everquest stories, including the "MUM BATHROOM" scene.

How are you this bad at well poisoning when it’s all you do

Augs damage was absolutely comparable to a 3rd DPS, and as a multiplier made burst focused groups (ie the ones that are always good for m+) even stronger
If you Aug a DPS with PI, the aug effectively also has PI. Thats insane value in a 5man
The fact that it also had defensive buffs really put it over the top
They were never particularly broken in raid once Breath of Eons (I think) got fixed super early on

I'm pretty sure there was already an addon that did that for you. And from what I've read, with some simpler classes (Fury Warrior) you could deal very competitive DPS with it.
It's always been borderline cheating, but they never bothered banning it because some people were genuinely using it for accessibility reasons.

Now they're making it official, with a 0.2s delay to make sure you can't possibly deal good damage with it. It's not that big of a deal, but as some Anon have been saying they're tacitly admitting the specs are way too complex. Adding an official one-button macro doesn't fix the core issue.

Well, it depends on the season and the patch. Early last season, ie the last one I played, they didn't deal as much damage as a third DPS but keys were much much easier with an Aug in your party. Even at my relatively low +12-13s level.

When will COA be out anyway?

in a month or so supposedly unless they delayed it, but I gave up on it after the most recent open beta week because it's clear that they want it to be a pvp funserver and not a pve server where you do raids together. Devs don't know how to design tanks and healers they just want everything to be a pvp dps

Just play private servers.
Unless you had 20k hours and did most of the stuff. Then just let it go anon.

Nice cope. WoW's focus on singleplayer content over cooperating and working with players killed the very concept of MMO's.

CoA is going to be the seasonal slop for pvpfags like pvelol

I'm not a furry, but I would fuck a vulpera.

Legion Spriest was perfect.

she's clearly a paw slut

Anon, I'm not sure how to tell you this, but you meet the definition...

I got good news for you then! /wowvg/ is full of people avatarfagging as them! Go get em tiger!

2025!!!

TWO-THOUSAND-TWENTY-FIVE

STILL WOW

it is really time for touching some grass. Unironically

That's lame. I thought that the reason they bent over backwards to make new classes was for more lore/pve content. They already have Area 52 and Elaine for PVP fun with Classless which is admittedly fun but trying out a WoW with new classes seemed like a cool idea.

I'm not a furry.
Any hole is a goal.