The Netflix series has led to a whole new generation of people buying the DMC HD Collection and being introduced to...

The Netflix series has led to a whole new generation of people buying the DMC HD Collection and being introduced to DMC3. V-tubers with thousands of followers are checking it out.

We Won.

nah unc crige af fr fr fanum tax this bluud

Keep zoomers away from my ames

Between this and Crimson, there might be another 100K sales for DMC HD edition.

I hope this means we get a new DMC game.

They're part of the core normoid audience.

Sex with Vergil.

I've seen streamers binge hours of speedrun tactics for games they don't even like, I wish they were as inclined to watch tutorials on the bare fundamentals of other games to have a smoother experience.

Even without getting fancy with buffering and cancels and all that a lot of the apprehension and confusion people have could be solved with understanding i-frames, visual and sound cues, weapon traits and I guess DTE for good measure.

As long winded as that sounds it's real simple in application.
Two basic examples.
Attacking to clash against the vertical slashes of the Hell Vanguard twice then getting behind it to avoid the horizontal one will almost always get you style meter and enough time for few free hits as it flails and recovers.
Cerberus' "stinger" automatically deletes Enigma arrows while giving you style meter.

You don't need to frantically, futilely flail until you get hit or run, dash or teleport away from everything. Just take a moment to take things in.

half of Anon Babble types in ebonics now
so stop being racist

None of that shit matters if you're playing through the game once and then dropping it. DMC is a button mash series and rewards button mashing.

Can't wait for them to buy DMC4 on Steam only to find out you need to play hackerman to make it work :^)

normies discovering dmc3

in 2025

crazy

youtube.com/watch?v=jMxyvsau2RE

3 hours of ebonics over DMC3 is not what I suspect I'd see.

The more time passes the more 3 continues to be relevant

Does crimson mod make mashing for Crazy combos easier?
I kinda hated that shit ngl

It has an option that lets you just hold down the button for crazy combos.

For me, it's Ninomae Ina'nis.

You know how many toonami era shonen niggers ive seen play DMC3 ever since it came out

Start DMC show

2 minutes in

A literal god damn demon lecturing a group of mercenaries about the excesses of Americans

Dropped

Literally timeless and certified masterpiece.

I'm so glad to be born during a time when this game exists.

It's weird to see a kid that was doing roblox stuff until recently in his channel say this about a game from 20 years ago.

6 styles

6 firearms

6 weapons

(unknown if 6-6-6 is intentional)

2 characters

full campaign

loads of bosses

complete storyline

3 works because it si the most ambitious and doesn't feel like it's cut down. 4 and 5 have major reductions in the amount of weapons and firearms. Dante feels like a modded in character. V is TOTALLY pointless and I have no idea why he's even there. Why introduce someone with a unique gameplay style then "kill" him off? I'd rather play as Lady or Trish.

I hate hate hate Nero's weapons and gameplay style.

millions of normalfags continue to ruin my hobby by broadcasting my favorite games to even more normies

We won.

I implore you to consider killing yourself

Hmmm maybe that's good enough.
Mashing them certainly feels better but i'm willing to try.

My only issue is that the enemies are mediocre. Bur yeah i love the game.

yes, worst enemies in the series, most of them are slow passive scythe guys, the rest are also boring like the Fallen. 4 has much better more aggressive enemies.

4 has good enemies because it brought back 1's enemies.
God that game being incomplete will annoy me until the day i die.

It was clearly meant to bring back Vergil, and there's endless hints that the Order captured Nelo Angelo, and that it was Nelo Angelo that attacked Nero in the first place. His arm is effectively just in vergil's devil trigger mode permanently.

The plot of 4 and 5 likely are meant to be a single game. Would end with Nero and Vergil boss fight and probably some revelation who Nero's mother is.

Probably. There was a key item you get from Echidna called sephirothic fruit that seemed so out of place until i saw the whole plot of 5 revolving around a fruit.
Many ideas were there alreadythe game was just stitched together at some point during production.

Yeah, it's totally a single plot. I think the Order might have done something like take Vergil and try to "purify" him into a demon to use as the core of Savior. V might have been the one to alert Dante and Trish about what was going on at Fortuna as well.

So the DMC4 we get is likely half the story cut in half, then to make it a full game they throw in Dante to play the game in reverse order to pad things out.

then to make it a full game they throw in Dante to play the game in reverse order to pad things out.

Hey, it worked for Chain of Memories

4 and 5 have major reductions in the amount of weapons and firearms.

You don't know what you're talking about.

To begin with you're wrong about the amount of weapons Dante has in 3; he only gets five of each. You're also completely missing that you can only carry two at a time and only a single style, and even if you're going to start jerking yourself off about mods that doesn't change the fact that the weapons were designed around those restrictions so they're the most similar they've been in the series. Not to mention they're own respective weaknesses. A&R is basically filler, Artemis is worthless, Spiral and Kalina Ann could've easily been one weapon (5 literally did it), Cerberus has massive gaps in its moveset, Nevan is all crowd control and you can't even charge E&I and Shotgun without GS.

5 Dante has more moves as whole without any of the restrictions or the problems because his weapons are way more complex, have unique gimmicks, but nonetheless were simultaneously designed to work with style switching and by themselves. Balrog alone will give you more melee moves than any DMC3 loadout without any sacrifices. King Cerberus has almost as many moves without needing to be powered up or switch stances. Getting DSD will add the swords to your DT which change the properties of every other attack in Swordmaster and buff the other styles independently. Faust gives Dante his own summoned sword functions if that wasn't enough. DT gives you other benefits like buffing TS, infinite charge shot and DT attacks. And that's not even getting into SDT and Quad S.

Dante feels like a poorly modded in character that doesn't mesh with the game at all

Nero feels like he his moveset and weapons are heavily scaled down

Dante probably was just going to be a boss

Fighting Dante and Vergil would give Nero an actual story arc where he learns his origin, accepts it, and overcomes his father

In the final game, strictly speaking all that happens is Nero has a few bad days with his employer and decides to quit so it feels like a side-story. It's alluded to him being a descendant of Sparda and he gains the Yamato, but not a lot really feels accomplished. He doesn't have his reckoning with Vergil until 5.

there's endless hints that the Order captured Nelo Angelo, and that it was Nelo Angelo that attacked Nero in the first place

There aren't stop repeating this.

It's just reused imagery.

"zoomer plays ps2!" game is a thing now

still no way to play DMC4 even with pirating

;_;

Am i the only one who really likes the random thingamabob key items you collect and use in DMC games? They're always the most random shit and they all amount to just keys, but its so funny, you get wacky shit like the philosophers egg or an Echidna seed or a cool ass trident that you cannot use as a weapon for some reason

That just looks like a rock with gems man

Why are all of these "Xing Y for the first time" videos 90% of the time black? [the 10% being e-prostitutes in which I already know the answer for that] This has been plaguing my mind for like a year now. Do they really only play FIFA, watch The Color Purple and DBZ and eat Church's until they're like 30 or something?

Wut?

Adi Shankpoo came out and said he wasn't happy that DMC5 was coming out because he thought the franchise was dead and wanted to be the one who brought back the series with his shitty show

Funny how he was malding about it, given that it pretty much feels like they only played DMC5 and the saw the memes. But in a way, he got his wish, more people got into DMC and bought the HD collection after it.

Listen Capcom really wanted those modelers to practice. That's why you need to get the holy grail before you punch your big brother in the face.

Do you even know what ambrosia is, dumbass? It's a fruit that's the source of the gods' immortality.

Or are legit normies that realized acting as if they enjoy what nerds on the internet do and nostalgia bait for engagement will make them money.
But that comes back to your e-prostitution comment.

Mmm rock gems...

garbage UI

weapon wheel instead of a custom weapon deck (i know which order I've put the weapons I don't need to see a fucking wheel)

You're also completely missing that you can only carry two at a time and only a single style,

Yeah, I actually like that better, as it feels you have to pick a "build". It plays a bit like an action RPG in that regard (there's literally EXP for enemies).

A&R is basically filler, Artemis is worthless, Spiral and Kalina Ann could've easily been one weapon (5 literally did it), Cerberus has massive gaps in its moveset, Nevan is all crowd control

Don't you dare speak ill of 3's weapons. A&R and Cerberus are my favorites and also have elemental attributes which is totally dropped after 3. A&R and Beowulf are the damage dealers. Cerberus is quick combos linking to other weapons. Rebellion is the bread and butter does everything well weapon. Nevan is crowd control and Air Raid.

The only one I don't like is Nevan, but I like that it's there for people who want to use it. It has Air Raid, some extra attacks with sword master as well.

Kalina Ann is probably given to you in Dante's campaign simply because they were planning to but had to cut Lady as the third character so it's kind of a compromize.

and you can't even charge E&I and Shotgun without GS.

"based". You're actually forced to make a choice and pick a specialization and make GS useful.

And the imagery there looks like a rock with gems. Where did you get confused?

With DMC3 at least I got the impression that Sparda knew he couldn't easily destroy the Temen-ni-gru so he gathered a bunch of occultists to put every seal they could muster in place so it would be an ordeal for most to get into unless they really needed to and almost impossible for anyone within to get out of without help.

The others I can't really see any narrative reason for there to be locks and keys.

This crap is only worth making juice out of. Do people eat it?

"May your favorite IP becomes a hit with mainstream audience" ahh curse.

I'm surprised that a lot of Souls veterans had trouble with DMC3 at least on their first few tries. I mean, they've played harder games, so I expected them to handle it more smoothly. I guess souls meme problably messes with their ability to keep up with fast paced action games like DMC.

Didn't watch whatever video you're talking about, but that sounds nice. Is Anon Babble actually angry kids are enjoying older games?

Dante feels like a poorly modded in character that doesn't mesh with the game at all

Eh?

I was watching a bit of this. I find it extremely funny how we went from

Dante is cringe and cheesy as fuck

some years ago, to

This dude is "aura farming" so hard and is cool as fuck

Have we come full circle now?

They only had trouble playing stylishly since they are used to stick to the strategy that works. You can beat every DMC normal mode with stinger spam if you are shameless about using items.

I actually like that better

Okay? But don't say there was a reduction where there was none, specially when the game also has three other characters that are also quite complex.

Don't you dare speak ill of 3's weapons

They're mostly fine but they have some notable problems. It's not like they're 4's weapons though.

elemental attributes which is totally dropped after 3

DMC5 has elemental damages. In fact it even has elemental debuffs that enemies can apply on you, on top of stun which is equally applicable to you and enemies. The only DMC games without elemental damages is 4.

Cerberus is quick combos linking to other weapons

But it has the longest combos... That's the whole reason fire Cerberus is basically a second Rebellion...

simply because they were planning to but had to cut Lady as the third character

It's basically another version of the Grenade Launcher from 1. I doubt they were intending to have Dante miss that.

No, this is a rock.

That's a gem without a rock

Black gamers have always liked DMC, how young are you?

Yeah, I actually like that better, as it feels you have to pick a "build". It plays a bit like an action RPG

I fucking hate you Souls faggot who can't handle depth and player expression. stay away form DMC.

A man-made soldier made from the fragment of a demon known as the "dark angel". Filled with either a human or demonic soul, it carries out its master’s orders with mechanical precision.

The Order used shards of Nero Angelo to create their Bianco and Alto Angelos. It's their attempt to artificially create an army of demon knights based on the original. So the order studied Nero Angelo, had shards from it, but somehow didn't have Vergil? He's just hiding in a cave somewhere until he decides to fuck with Nero again?

Gems are rocks, bro...

So why did Bayonetta fail where DMC succeed?

i'm bad

That's like saying birds are dinosaurs

black people who don't know DMC

Literally every single black person I new below the age of 40 for the past 12 years owned either a PS3 or PS2 and was aware of most Capcom adjacent games.

Every nerdy nigger I met in college either loved DMC or Final Fantasy, so I can second this.

I know you are that's why you can't handle style switching.

Bayonetta had a lot of backlash from wokies because of the male gaze, media smear tactics, etc. Then they liked it again in the second game, but then the VA shat on the 3rd game, then Bayonetta had a family as well and the media got mad again because she wasn't a lesbo.

With a choice of 2 firearms, two devil arms, and 6 styles, there's a lot of different combinations for your Dante to be in 3. I like customization and character progression. Endless floaty combos don't really interest me at all.

we won

Sounds like major defeat to me

Because Kamiya never learned from his errors. Bayo 1 was a great game with some really easy to fix issues...and subsequent games refused to fix them

Imagine if every DMC game after the first also had that jank ass underwater FPS section. That's what Bayonetta is like

It's good but you can't top the original

Well since this thread is up, anyone knows when the full version of the DMC 3 crimson mod is out? I know the beta is out but I heard it crashes when you play as Vergil.
Also is there a on the fly gun switching mod for DMC 1?

We Won

Not until DMC 6 happens(and ends up being fun).

2 was a wii u exclusive, 3 is a bad game

has been for a while now, actually

back to your rollslop thread faggot

They're totally irrelevant.

The story and setting are weird and don't pull you in. Aestetics are drawn from high fashion with no one likes, Kamiya is clearly a closet case and Bayo is his fantasy. Bayo in 1 has WEIRD ass proportions that only make sense if she's over 7 feet tall and even if people can't articulate that, they pick up on it and are turned off by it.

So the story, aestetics, and setting don't appeal to anyone other than Kamiya. Even I enjoy the game but I don't care for the world and wish I was a demon hunter running around a Resident Evil mansion instead.

Nah, he be a souls fag if he says DMC needs a stamina bar and needs to remove the jump button.

Souls generally punishes you for being proactive, which is the whole point of DMC games. That's why you see those players run around while fighting groups of enemies, when what they should be doing is doing things like staggering them and using crowd control, or launching them or knocking them back so they get away from the group to do moves with more recovery.

The whole idea of DMC being a single player fighting game is kind of a meme, but it's true that it follows the same principles of understanding what does what to the enemy and how long it will take to know when you will be safe and when to interact, and that being on the offensive is almost always equated to winning. Souls games in comparison are turn based action games (despite how contradictory that might sound) where if you're fighting anything bigger than a hollow you have to respect the enemy's turn rather than take it away until you get to an arbitrary amount of stagger and you can do a big heavy attack or a crit.

DMC started with a basic game and improved on it over time. Bayo had the best game right out of the gate and everything that came afterwards was a downgrade

can confirm, my friend has been shilling DMC to my friend group for 15 years
t. black zoomer

zoomers, vtumors, niggers and other normies scum now flood in to ruin one of your favorite games

we won

kindly eject yourself into the sun.

If you think about it DMC and FGC fans makeup is not that different.

I hope DMC 6 has a few levels that take place in a spooky mansion. And also brings back wall running, pole swinging, and riding enemies.

Like Bayo just exudes gay energy. Everything's kinda fruity and faggy. The end credits look like it should be Bayo on a float during Pride Parade or something. It lacks that cool masculine aspect that draws in males.

As I said, I suspect Kamiya is a closet case. He wants 7 foot tall Bayonetta with a giant dick to rail him while he's tied up for being a bad boy. His sexuality and interests are too god damn niche. Bayo does nothing for me: not sexy, not funny, not cool.

Brother I think you might be projecting a little here

DMC3 is a game I haven't put my hands on in years yet it still sticks with me. Great game.

an IP incepted on the PS2 wasn't already full of normies

fuck off retard

Yeah you basically described the gamur gurl whores. But blacks are like in another field. They literally clap, scream ebonics and throw shit around the room like a caveman discovering fire when presented with something that isn't like, Street Fighter or Tenkaichi. Perhaps it's for a show, yes, but it's quite absurd. Which just brings it back to the question. Why? Is it how they're raised in a black household and feel the need to only interact with "accepted" black media up until a point?

kinda crazy that the way blacks act that makes people think they're "more dom/masc" by virtue of being more aggressive would get a white person thrown in a psych ward

I'm gonna say it

Vergil having the phantom edge forever stuck as one of his weapons is a wasted slot. No I dont care he held it for a couple scenes in 3, I dont need him to have Dantes moveset when Dante is already in the game

run around while fighting groups of enemies

That's good though, it's how someone who isn't a half-demon superhero would realistically fight in that situation. It's what separates Souls from dedicated action games.
What isn't good is i-frame rolling for god knows how many times before the boss lets up for a window enough for a single poke.

There's also Bayonetta's flippant, tired, and "I'm too good for this shit" attitude that makes it harder to give a crap about anything that'd happening. Why should I the viewer care when the main character doesn't?

If we do get a 6 Vergil desperately needs actual new weapons.

it's a DMC clone plagued by gimmickry, cinematic setpiece levels and minigames that literally no one likes. The sales pitch is basically that it's from by the guy who directed DMC1 but with less of the stuff that makes DMC fun

I'd make side stories.

Ladies Night

Lady and Trish investigate solo some spooky mansion or island.

Sparda prequel

In the time period where he's depowered and roams the world. He's the inventor of the 4 styles Dante uses, including Gunslinger.

Order of the sword

Opposite direction. Recruit and train a team of demon hunters for the order of the sword, under new management and not evil. Plays a bit like Peace Walker. They have different stats, fighting styles, and techniques. Lady has been hired by the Order to give them firearms training as well.

To what the other Anons have said, you also have to add that the basic mechanics are just way more convoluted.

DMC's depth springs from the interaction of few but very important abilities that the whole game is built around. If you're using the sword you have one gap closer, one launcher, a couple combos, and one air move, plus the jump/dodge; there's more but you can use just that to deal with a billion different situations in DMC1, DMC3, DMC4 or DMC5. Every action you do in the game will feel rewarding and earned because you when you use thing X you will do Y, and so you're constantly thinking on the spot, while even a complete newbie can grasp what you're doing just by watching.

Bayonetta's gameplay is this clusterfuck of controls where you start attacking, but you then need to get to wicked weaves, but then you have to do dodges and use dodge offset and also you can hold every attack and you have witch time and... It's just a mess. There's way more muscle memory involved off the bat and it's just way less responsive. The game's engine is not elegant at all. Bayonetta is an action game that tried to be the next step but instead of changing things at a fundamental level it just put more bells and whistles on top of how action games already worked. As a result it feels gimmicky, like it's a copy of another property where they added X mechanic thinking it would be different enough.

I dunno man i haven't noticed blacks being a majority there but maybe they are. There is a need from nerds to have more normal people dig into their weird hobbies and see the reactions for sure. Maybe blacks capitalize on that. Like your former bully asking you about anime recommendations.

There's also Bayonetta's flippant, tired, and "I'm too good for this shit" attitude that makes it harder to give a crap about anything that'd happening. Why should I the viewer care when the main character doesn't?

Yeah, I noticed that Regina has the same attitude in Dino Crisis, and it bugged me there too. Bayo is basically completely disconnected emotionally from the plot. So either don't have her as a character or don't give me these scenes. I think they're trying to make her "cool" but she just comes off as weird.

Kamiya gives me bisexual energy. When he makes something to his own tastes, it has immense fag energy.

It's a bit too basic for a campaign, and probably TOO focused on the weapons and combo systems. I want to feel like I'm exploring something rather than just wandering through some void with square rooms to fight enemies. It almost feels like Bloody Palace mode at times.

It'd be cool if he could use V's book to manifest the monsters attacks

Oh and I hate hate hate hate hate the time slowdown dodge mechanic that Platinum seemed to be in love with.

If we do get a 6 Vergil desperately needs actual new weapons.

He should have V's cane as a summoner weapon, along with Doppelganger

God I hate netflix

If i could make a DMC-like game the MC would be a tomboish girl with tonfa.

It's fine but starting with Bayo 2 they stretched it too far where abusing it is the easiest and best option most of the time.
I also don't like how BotW aped the mechanic.

I feel like Sparda would have a demonic blunderbuss or elephant gun

He has his own pistols in DMC1

So the order studied Nero Angelo, had shards from it, but somehow didn't have Vergil?

They went to Mallet Island. Vergil had left the place after his final fight with Dante.

Seriously, them having Vergil makes no sense. If that was the case there would've been no need for Nero to be a natural born son of his, he could've just been a clone or someone they did gene therapy on to turn him into one.

None of their angelos look like Vergil himself either, it's just Nelo Angelo and Mundus. That's the whole joke of the game, The Order claims to be following Sparda's legacy but they use Mundus' shit and end up looking like him, while his actual descendant hates them by instinct and they completely ignore him and make him an outcast; it's supposed to be ironic and twisted, with Dante showing Nero the way things should be.

I wanna elaborate a bit and say I think gameplay Bayo and cutscene Bayo feel disconnected in a way that doesn't really happen with Dante.
In cutscenes Bayo comes across as dismissive whereas in gameplay she's more aggressive and cheeky. Compare her saying "flock off featherface" in the way you'd tell someone who's bothering you to go away to gameplay where suddenly she's energetic and shouting "FLOCK OFF" with some actual passion.

My idea is to make V's familiars new weapons he can swap to, Shadow can easily fit the gauntlet slot, Griffon can go over summon swords and Nightmare could be an alt for Doppelganger.

The saaarnime did nothing. People follow trends and cattle buy what their told to

I know that. I meant he would probably have more guns too. Especially when you live for 2000 years.

Nightmare not the gauntlet

when half its moveset is punches

when the original Nightmare weapon even added damage to your punches

Mallet island was completely destroyed at the end of DMC1

3 is one of my all time favorite games. I S ranked DMD with Dante and Vergil. 4 and 5 just have so many flaws that I just can't enjoy them. Some of Dante's weapons in 4 and 5 are bad and V is like pulling teeth.

I feel like shadow would replace force edge/be a blade/whip/one of those whip swords

The LDK costume was designed as future Dante, the canonicity of L&O being Sparda's guns is very dubious. They aren't even reused on the LDK costumes of any other games.

Bro you are bad.

V is like pulling teeth.

I have no idea why V is made, since he's "killed off" in the same game, never to be seen again. Why not make him a young innocent boy, to represent the childhood Vergil who was weak and scared? That would actually balance out with the big scary demon monster.

Why have V segments when Trish is right there?

Yeah and The Order got the wreckage.

I wish 4 and 5 let me walk run and body surf enemies.

I hate hate hate Nero's weapons and gameplay style.

I don't hate it but he feels very bare bones in 4 and him not having breaker switching in 5(without modding that feature in) feels like a miss step.

While Mirage Edge is pretty much made from scraps, by DMC5 the way it works is totally different. It's a weapon that gives you tons of style and concentration and applies a ton of stun on enemies, so it's more of a setup tool than a damage dealer.

I also think it's cool that Vergil is so good at using summoned swords that he can just straight up wield one as a weapon. At the very least it's something unique to him, which wielding Force Edge with another weapon on the other hand isn't.

walk run

*wall run
Need better sleep

Can't wait for the ebonics users to meet Gloria

Nobody plays that game, everyone skips it.

Because they wanted to make a new character they could experiment, outdo themselves and innovate with? Because having him as a cutscene thing would've meant he wouldn't have been as much of a protagonist as Dante and Nero? Because Trish has a bunch of gameplay baggage from previous games and has never been more than a barebones Dante clone, which would have been safe and boring?

Like I get people not liking the way V turned out but can you really knock them off for trying to do what they wanted to do with him? No other game really has a playstyle like his. If they didn't try to go crazy with it it wouldn't have been DMC.

Not Lucia

Am I the only one who can never max-act and constantly miss ex-act?

I dunno, I’m all for zoomerettes that want to part as 90’s/00’s

No, I suck at it too

The only reason i dislike V is that he splits the campaign in 3. Man i hated that shit since 4, why do they insist.

we

this can only end bad every time a huge flock of random follow a trend is a huge red fuck flag they will play the older games and go up and it will never live up for them but only the meme.

probably he's talking about the original version of dmc4, that got removed from steam like a year or two ago, you can only buy the special edition now

we want the X men story

I just want some more adventures with the old cast since we've barely seen them.

Trish

Luce and Umbre

Nightmare

Alastor

Irfrit

Make her kind of a copy of Dante from DMC1. Two firearms, two devil arms.

Lady:

handguns

smg

kalina anne

bayonette combo

smg bayonette combo

Give her some more melee options - and she hsa gunslinger by default.

Ill forgive V if the next game has playable Lady, i hate replaying 4

DMC 6(or whatever new spin off) better have a better looking Trish. Someone at capcom fucked up her model in 5.

Man DMCV is so ugly.

Lucia:

swords

throwing daggers

I think she can work too. I want more lucia.
Not model, they're hiring actual real people who are ugly models and face scanning them. "Models" look weird, and Eva-Trish's face scan model is some haggard coke whore. She's cartoonishly ugly in 5.

The thing is that Lady is okay but they seem to have difficulty making her click and be "fun". Shooting isn't that interesting. Her cutscenes in 3 imply she's a gymnast so maybe they could impliment that? Just sitting and shooting is boring. Maybe give her free aim?

Matier fought alongside Sparda, and the protectors are another clan of humans who revere Sparda. So a perfect Sparda prequel is 19 year old matier and the older Sparda. Probably around the 40s or 50s.

If you choose Nero for the first co-op mission and then V for the second one you get a pretty evenly split campaign.

Nero for three levels (Prologue to Mission 03)

V for two levels (Mission 04 and 05)

Nero for three levels (Missions 06 through 08)

V for one level (Mission 09)

Dante for three levels (Missions 10 through 12)

V for two levels (Missions 13 and 14)

Nero for one level (Mission 15; the biggest mission in the game)

Dante for four levels (Mission 16 through 19)

Nero for one level (Mission 20; the final boss)

You get a decent amount of time with each character like this since the game is still mostly split between a Nero half and a Dante half.

Give lady a second SMG with bayonets a long with some spring loaded knives in her boots and you can have her stab enemies quickly.

Sounds torturous and i hate it

Yeah but pirating was mentioned so...

they're hiring actual real people who are ugly models

The models they chose for DMC5 are perfect, it's just the face synching that fucks their models up since they have to more or less put those faces on top of other people's.

I fucking love watching people play video games instead of playing them myself.

That's nothing. People watch other people watch shows now.

Maybe she could have two styles: Gunslinger, acrobat?

Gunslinger

re-use Dante's moves

replicate some of her moves from 3's cutscenes and boss fights

Acrobat

her version of trickster

Trish's model is an ugly coke whore hobgoblin.

I find it fun. The levels in DMC5 are pretty self-contained and don't have things like backtracking or exploration, so changing characters keeps things fresh and varied. I love playing as all three of them too; I actually wish they'd had more time and budget for 5SE so they'd made a campaign that had you alternate between Vergil, Trish and Lady in place of Nero, Dante and V because playing Vergil for 21 levels straight of fighting and running forwards gets repetitive.

Sorry bro, but you're gay.

I think the levels being repetitive has nothing to do with playing only Vergil for quite a while. Then again i don't have ADHD.

peak of combat lady had a decent moveset, just build on that and the one from 4

youtube.com/watch?v=sbz5FpesfBs

Imo, Bayo 1 bosses outside of jeane were yawn-worthy. Giant fuck huge monster with slow telegraphed attacks. I don't remember a single boss from the game. Meanwhile every boss in DMC3 gets me pumped.

can't fight Dante as Dante

can't fight Dante as Nero

can't fight Dante as V

can't fight Dante and Vergil at the same time

Kiss my ass.

karen videos are a whole category of evidence that disproves your myopic self-victimizing theory

Nah, that's primarily it. There's a bunch of levels which don't even really work when you're playing as Vergil. Mission 13 is fun because you often meet other people playing through it, with Vergil it's just completely empty; ditto with Mission 14 which has you get V's minions one by one against some of the bosses you already fought, which is completely redundant as Vergil. You fight Urizen five damn times as Vergil, and while the Dante fights are cool, what was really fun about DMC5's final two missions originally was getting to fight Vergil with two completely different characters, even if the Nero fight was mostly a victory lap.

I get the gripes people have with 5's campaign, but for what it set out to do the balance between gimmicks, combat and various characters is about as good as it could get in 21 levels.

Shes so cute
youtu.be/8C5aHNIxHD4
Also if anyone knows how i could get more pics of Dizzy Dokuro's rm, please pass the info, thanks.

every boss

C'mon

Okay, but ~8/10 is better than ~1/ 6.

Sounds like 5's campaig is kinda boring to me.

Nah. I'm in the mood for itemslop.

I wasn't disagreeing with your point except that part. Still 8/10 feels generous.

The only boss besides Jeanne a fuck huge white marble monstrosity is Balder and even he is like 60% QTEs.

Bayo bosses suck.

I like all the bosses except Arkham (obvious) and Doppleganger (basically a platformer boss)

No. You failed. You didn't gatekeep your favorite franchise. Now countless number of retard idiots that watched the shitty anime will play the games and say 'why isnt it like the anime? it should be like the anime!' and then capcom will make DMC like the anime. You Lost.

Why can't there be porn of DMC3 Lady, bros...

he doesn't know

gatekeeping is a meme. Unless you form barricades outside of every gamestop and consistently ddos the steam page of a game, you can't gatekeep shit.

Not too fond of Leviathan myself

Now countless number of retard idiots that watched the shitty anime will play the games and say 'why isnt it like the anime? it should be like the anime!'

They're actually doing the opposite though.

Your loss

I was thinking about this myself before, but I guess if you consider how Nero steps in for Vergil's playstyle and is his unexplained son, and Nico similarly Agnus' offscreen kid, it's not like they couldn't just make a V style character in DMC6 and say they're some magician V took on as a fast track apprentice offscreen in case his plans with Dante and Nero fell through.

I personally think V as a concept should have been his own character. I think Vergil's story should have ended in 3. Having him be the final boss in half the games of the franchise (if we're including Donte), is just tired.

it's really the singular good outcome of the anime's release so I'm happy to see it. just a shame that the HD collection doesn't quite nail the visuals but it's not a huge deal in the grand scheme of things

Vergil was everyone's favorite parts of 3 though, so they had to bring him back. But I think he should be something else, and not a final boss. V is mostly a rehash of 3 anyways for a modern audience. He's almost a zombie in 1 too, so he doesn't talk or do anything. It doesn't feel like a nice ending.

BREAKer swaps only occuring on a BREAK is fine, is inline with Nero's combat style of unga bungaing and makes him distinct from Dante in that his "styles" are resources to be spent instead of swapping constantly between them. If you want to play a character with more rapid free-form swapping, Dante is right there

Have we come full circle now?

Chuunichads won

Yeah Vergil is way overdone. Vergil was a cool character and parallel to Dante with a tragic ending. Bringing him back feels like Dragonball levels of disappointing.

They should follow on Ikeno's whim of making a female V who's Nero's sister, it lets them do a ton of shit they've kept in the backburner since forever:

have the heroine as a full fledged playable character (done horribly in DMC2)

give Nero some sort of rival that won't feel forced

bring Mundus back into the plot by reusing the plot of him kidnapping Vergil as a kid

deal with Nero's mom in some way at last

bring back V's gameplay and style for a character who's obviously related but not in a way that's 1-to-1

keep the story about family stuff

clown on Vergil even further for dipping

Especially back at full power like nothing happened. I wouldn't mind Vergil back but he's crippled for life, unable to really fight.

Guess it's just Shadow the Hedgehog syndrome.
Which makes me a hypocrite since Shadow's my favorite 3d Sonic game

DMC3's gameplay is this clusterfuck of controls where you start attacking, but you then need to build style, but then you have to do weapon swapping and use jump cancels and also you can hold trigger to ready DTE and you have juggle enemies and... It's just a mess

Shut the fuck up shitter. Everyone is terrible at this genre except me.

That's actually a solid premise to phase things into the Nero era.

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black eceleb

How do we solve celebrity worship culture?

you then need to build style

You build style by playing well, not the other way around. Yet another reason why it's better designed than Bayo.

By not posting youtube or twitter screencaps on a Lithuanian Plaster Manufacturing forum for starters

Nero

Nero's sister

Nero's mother

I want less of this.

We lost anyone that actually enjoys the Netflix anime is a lobotomite

how about those literally whos

lolfag
OP is a gay nigger and he should kill himself

say 'why isnt it like the anime? it should be like the anime!' and then capcom will make DMC like the anime.

It's the opposite, you idiot. The zoomers hated the Pajeet's project so much that they're playing it. The pajeet is seething at DMCV too because HE wanted to be the savior of the franchise, in his own words.

This, Nero is the primary reason why the series turned into the Vergil show anyway

DMC6 needs to reveal Vergil's gf so we can have porn of her

Yandere Vergil: No! No! You cannot leave me for the colossal squid. I am much better than him. I have a sword! I have a katana! I have power! I am better! The colossal squid.. just forget about him. Please, just come back to me

uh i actually think Vergil should've stayed dead!!!

Man stfu.

No one would've said no to more Vergil before DMC5 happened. He had his only real appearance in DMC3. He was a zombie in DMC1 and DmC was a totally different character. Even in DMC5 he's alive for like the last fifth of the game.

Vergil has barely been used as a character despite how important he's been and how fucking cool, iconic and badass he is. What the hell are we grandstanding for?

PGR having more lore than the netflix show and the official mobile game combined

What I'd like to learn more about:

Sparda

Matier

Protectors

Order of the Sword

Lucia

Lady

Dante and Vergil's childhood

Eva

unnamed priestess

What I want less:

Vergil

Nero

Any other Vergil crotch goblin bastards

What if Sparda had other children before he met Eva?

All i want is some old knight general from hell at the same level as Sparda. He's working for the "bad guy" but totally fucks around similar to Dante and poses a serious challenge being a veteran soldier.

All that has been done before.

fucking matier

WHO FUCKING CARES ABOUT THAT OLD GEEZER
Like it's not even characters anyone cares about. We need more scenes with Vergil and Dante rather than some literal who side character

what if Mundus had a hot daughter who was into Sparda so she tried to kill Eva

It's all made V fags that can't get over V being Vergil. There was some crazy woman who was obsessed with V because he looked like Kylo Ren and she got big mad at the reveal she went full retard in the leak threads.

My pitch for the obligatory 'Sparda comes back' game is that he zeroes into Nero immediately because he's the only one who's bothering to continue the bloodline. Basically a 'when are you giving me grandkids' type

The Netflix show didn't have to make young Dante and Vergil so sexy

I'd rather have Patty as a player character in the next game.

Vergil's right there tho

Most punchable face ever

No, the point is not to make you go "omg Matier I love her!". She's a nobody character, but the story is right there: in her youth she knew and fought alongside Sparda. Instead of just rehashing shit we already know and have seen, you explore the world. Sparda spent centuries bopping around being a hero after giving up ruling Fortuna island. Thus you fill in tons of his adventures over the centuries.

The point is that it's a Sparda prequel, and Matier was once his hot sexy "Bond-gal". This would probably around the 40s long before he met Eva.

The DMCV novel goes out of its way to include Matier specifically to make it clear that DMC2 is canon. DMC2 has perfectly fine elements it's just messy. So you fix it rather than forget it.

My pitch for the obligatory 'Sparda comes back' game is that he zeroes into Nero immediately because he's the only one who's bothering to continue the bloodline. Basically a 'when are you giving me grandkids' type

Sparda is dead though. He gave up 90% of his power to the devil arm Force Edge and Sparda sword. I'd like to think that he just slowly aged after giving up his power, and as an old man decided to pass on his legacy and just died soon afterwards. Eva got torn to shreds because he wasn't around.

You jest, but I'd take a Fatal Frame knock off where Patty tries to get Dante to visit her through investigating reports of demon activity. It probably wouldn't go over well with Koei though.

Capcom isn't going to make a prequel for a character that's never been in the game, only mentioned and a literal who who appeared in a shitty sequel.

this a bigger loss, especially if they're pure react streamers and only watch cutscene compilations like the one bitch I was recomended.

you probably won't believe me but I've been saying for years that I'm fine with his death because him being alive doesn't matter in regards to shoehorning him into any 2nd edition of a game as a playable character because they did exactly that for DMC4SE

DMC3

less restrictive than 4 or 5

full retard, zoomie.

We need a LiR appearance in dmc 6, either in a flashback or she's stuck in Moondusts sex dungeon or something.

Sparda prequels have a lot of potential, from a classical god of war kind of setting of Sparda vs. the Demons, to middle ages, early modern, etc. He spent hundreds of years running around the world doing heroic good deeds and freelance work. He'd be Dante in different time lines.