OFF remake demo with chapter 0 and chapter 1 available on Steam

but switch physical though

retarded consoomer can't resist the allure of physical garbage just because it's physical and exists

I pity you.

mean

Have no access to pc for a week, how is the battle system. Heard it's the same but they reworked crits in some lazy way that it has now it's own meter.

new Dedan fight music has Undertale Bonetrousle in it

come on man

the original is better

Please tell me you're kidding. I like Toby, but that's too far.

Chapterslop

Yaaaaawwwnnn~~

We need to regulate AI. Let people use it but force everything generated by AI to be properly labeled so it isn't used to deceive and people can completely opt out of the ai entertainment landscape.

Please respond

No it's real

It works approximately the same, but they rebalanced the enemies a bit.

They changed Fake Orchestra

Why though? That track was god tier

i mean he was inspired by dedan... but come on man, first helvetica now what?
all the soundtrack was replaced because copyright concerns over the sample uses

Can you post a sample of it? I want to hear it myself.

I do think it's a little egoistic to cram an Undertale reference into OFF. It should be it's own thing.

The original french jrpg

The fish easter egg was changed to have the tobydog's face, since it was copyrighted material too

They could have done anything else to make it look reminiscent of Dopefish without doing that.

I'm ripping assets right now to upload

Thank you. i'll play the demo when I'm home, but I really want to hear the stuff before I'm out of work

At this point I think Toby deliberately grifting

the zoomer fears physical ownership

This is exactly the reason I hate this faggot, he's such a fucking narcissist and feels the need to constantly shoehorn in his own shit and draw attention to himself
He did this with Pokemon, he did this with Kikiyama
I fucking KNEW this shit would happen the second I saw this game was being published by Fangamer and nobody believed me

did the baby get censor?

soundcloud.com/off-reboot-reuploads/off-remake-dedan-battle-theme
I'll upload whatever else I find interesting

Than nothing is really gained with this remake. I will consider pirating it and that's that.

Screencap this
Megalovania will show up in the final boss theme

Fucking hell

Wait, what the fuck, this shit will cost 35$? For this price you can get AI Limit, a solid medium-budget game, you can get fucking Factorio, and most popular indies are cheaper than that. I guess they just followed the "retards will buy it anyway" logic.

I swear at this point you'll probably hear most of deltarune's later chapter music in OFF than the actual game

I would tell Toby to fuck off but it looks like he already did.

0:40 alright it sounds similar but it's only a few notes before going into a different direction so maybe it's just the way toby composes that makes it sound similar.

1:21

He really just slapped bonetrousle into the song. The non bonetrousle parts are fine and fit the with the old theme better, but he really just ruined the song for his reference. And you just know his cult who never even knew Off existed are probably gonna cream themselves over this.

The new soundtrack sucks and has none of the eeriness of the original, the new art sucks and makes it look like it's trying to be kid friendly for some reason and the constant references to epic super popular dogshit faggot attention whoring retard eceleb developer are extremely distasteful. This is inferior in every way to the free original and I will not be buying it.

Upload Morusque's work or Flesh Maze Tango replacement, since song itself is important to puzzle it's in.

lmao
It has a volume meter to the side, you don't need song

I'm starting to think he's forgotten how to write original music that isn't derivative of his own work. The callbacks to melodies in Undertale/Deltarune is cute and works thematically, but between that time he dug up "The Baby is You" for Pokemon and this shit, it's like he doesn't know how to do anything else BUT rewrite music he's already written.

I'm only going off the asset's names, I don't know who made what

Flesh Maze Tango replacement

soundcloud.com/off-reboot-reuploads/flesh-maze-tango-remake

Post the Not Safe replacement?

but between that time he dug up "The Baby is You" for Pokemon

That didn't even happen, it doesn't have the motif.

soundcloud.com/off-reboot-reuploads/not-safe-replacement
Any other requests while I'm here?

Nigga..

Catbox all of those, Soundcloud is being annoying by asking to make an account

Pepper Steak please.

Any tune he comes up with he immediately keeps for his own stuff. He clearly doesn't like spending his creative sparks on other people's work.

youtu.be/zSUdTV5x0X0

How would you like it cooked?

We know that one, sorta. All the zones are getting unique battle themes.
youtu.be/NAnZdMfEL3o

Rare. Medium and well-done kiddies can bite me.

I swear to God toby Fox is gonna use a fucking midnight crew leimotif for enoch

soundcloud.com/off-reboot-reuploads/white-meat-in-game-mix
I've put all the audio in a zipfile, catbox is being slow, but I'll link it here and on the account when done

Thanks, it's unsurprisingly ass.

This sounds like shit.
I don't want to be le epic contrarian guy buy it completely tramples over the wacky and original feel of the OST.
Just put em side by side.
youtube.com/watch?v=t-9xbgTHpLA

My favorite was Unreasonable Behavior.
Can you post that one?
youtube.com/watch?v=dyw6kQ5O-YA

Unrelated but you reminded me Toby should actually just steal the Midnight Crew characters away from Hussie.

Unreasonable behaviour was in Zone 2, the demo only goes up to the end of Zone 1, so it might nto be posted yet

Anything after Zone 1 is not there, it's just a demo

Really, this is so fucking lame! But unsurprisingly, since it's really seems to be marketed to the bottom of the barrel iq individuals with song having too low levels for this puzzle at the end.
One more thing, can you remove borders pictures as you can in Lisa remake?

The original spirit of "Aphex Twin makes a boss theme" is completely missing from this version.
It just doesn't suit someone has military and commanding as Dedan.

Zone 2 isn't in the demo, but they posted what seems to be Unreasonable Behaviour replacement long ago
youtu.be/pF7KnYl9fig?si=nbgrBY0fsdERL0eQ

Made by Nightmargin in memory of dead fangame creator

Jesus christ this sounds so weak compared to the original

All I hear is SNIPPETS of Bonetrousle, not the full thing. It's like Toby put up Bonetrousle, but split it up throughout the song
It doesn't help it uses the same instruments as Bonetrousle main melody
I like it more than OG because of those dramatic horns at the back and how it's more upbeat

I'm starting to think he's forgotten how to write original music that isn't derivative of his own work.

I'm sure new Deltarune chapters will feature new original melodies much like chapter 2

skip ahead to a random part of the song

aight this sounds good? idk whats the big deal-

the new ost in itself isn't bad but like you said it tramples over the original and feels out of place.

Link?

I still have a bunch of OFF art books and a OFF tarot deck for some reason. Made me nostalgic but lord this feels weird. I feel weird about nearly all of the RPGmaker game remakes, that's been coming out recently. I don't know why they irk me so much, but they do. I don't know much a hopefully better translation would really be worth it.
'least Ghost is making some bank, I guess.
nta, kinda bummer that I hope they pulled a fatlus and most of it would be in there.

Yeah, something like that. Technically speaking there's nothing wrong in it, it's just not the music I'd think off when thinking about this game, like something would be very OFF.
It feels too formulaic, too safe, like the stock music you'd get in RPG maker.
Plus the Bonestrousle bits in Dedan's theme made my skin crawl.

it's just not the music I'd think off

hehe

It feels too formulaic, too safe

You'd say it's Desperately Safe?

RPG Maker games have SOVL while their remakes are just for the money.

Catbox is giving me an error, any other good file hosts?

And you just know his cult who never even knew Off existed are probably gonna cream themselves over this.

They already are:

Everyone shits all over the Lisa remake but I thought the secret bonus boss in Painful was a very cool fight and tied it to the original game pretty well

I'm less happy about this though since it's pretty much cementing OFF's reputation as Undertale-adjacent Tumblrshit

having different opinion = being a cult

Are you autistic?
Also I've played the game with V2 translation like a decade ago

Here's every audio file, was too big for Catbox, sorry
mega.nz/folder/tJJWVbbS#i4RP3ljZxZOK0-JRcfXk9w

The Lisa remake bricked my game I can't even save anymore because whenever I go on a save file all it does is show white boxes where the party members would be. It even did this when I used a new gaming pc

SNIPPETS of Bonetrousle, not the full thing

The entire first half of the song repeats the opening notes of bonetrousle, and then the final notes of bonetrousle over and over. It's a glorified Bonetrousle remix with a hint of diet Fake Orchestra. It's easy to get why, Papyrus is literally inspired by Dedan, but having listened to Undertale's soundtrack plenty I can literally only hear Bonetrousle in the song, robbing it of its identity as DEDAN'S song.

Off was such a cool and interesting game and I was excited for the remake when I first heard about it but from everything I've seen here I guess I should've known better. I'll still probably play it but my hopes aren't all that high and Toby Fox putting stupid bonetrousle in the new Dedan music genuinely made me a little angry

I guess you could say it's a real cacophony

The new sounds are too "video-gamey" imo

Just watch every boss theme get ruined

Dedan gets a Bonetrousle remix

Japhet gets a Spear of Justice remix

Enoch gets a Death By Glamour remix

Queen gets a Bergentrückung remix

Judge/Batter get a Hopes & Dreams remix

and like that, Toby succesfully makes Undertale again

The problem with that fight is that it launched without the petal mechanic

>Enoch gets a Death By Glamour remix

I didn't need that mental image

I didn't really read the details for the remaster, how much of the music did Toby Fox compose?

Just why did they have to remake this one? People are doing this to a bunch of classic RPG Maker games. The originals are already iconic and sovlful.

All the battle music according to him

Here's Dedan's boss fight.
files.catbox.moe/ev63t7.mp4

this remaster might be an immediate refund, I don't think I could finish the game if the entire thing sounds like undershit

All battle music
Most other is by Morusque (Stray composer)
Easy money. Fangamer contacted Mortis and suggested this to him. This is basically free money for almost no work done.

OFF was the real Undertale 2 this whole time

Correct. I'd argue it doesn't just rob Dedan's song of its identity. It robs the game of it's own unique identity. From this point forward, there's going to be a substantial amount of people who play OFF this way and mentally link it to Undertale. Bonetrousle is too iconic of a song for a reference that egregious. It's immersion breaking

Music puzzle is easy because of volume meter

I get why it's there for accessibility reasons, but couldn't they have made it a toggle?

Battle background patterns aren't changed to match the new UI

consider my disappointment even bigger. Those dark parts of the patterns specifically were darkened and segmented to match RPG Maker's battle UI so that it wouldn't blend in with the text. It was a necessary design aspect fitted around the limitations of the engine it was made in, but it was soulful.

Also jesus christ the battle sprites are way too big, the entire battle screen feels claustrophobic now. Like jesus, zoom it out a little.

mfw the Bonetrousle motif plays

This is lame. That's the best word for it.
"Why does OFF need a remake" is the first thing I'd ask, but putting that aside, "why does OFF have to have Undertale references" is the next one.
Undertale had obvious OFF references, and it paid homage to the game through them.
This just feels cheap and kind of inappropriate. Not what one would expect from an OFF remake, and not in a good way.

You're telling me it's impossible to make Not Pepper Steak that doesn't trigger the copyright jews? Sounds like complete shit. I didn't even like OFF, but the music was god tier.

here's your censored slop bro

Can't wait until batter looks at the camera to say he loves purifying and trans rights

Wait I was so fucking fixated on the background autism I didn't even notice this
THEY DIDN'T EVEN ALIGN HIS SHADOW WITH THE BATTLE TIME TEXT
this remake is fuckign soulless, unironically, how do you fucking miss a detail THAT obvious

How can a remake have so many Undertale references and be so soulless

h
Hussie? Andrew Hussie, is that you?

Why is the new art so saccarine compared to the original? It legitimately looks like it's being marketed to babies or something.

soundcloud.com/cianeatsgrass/swing-batter-batter
This one is great

isnt that just mortis ghosts artstyle

Ok so when is the original OST patch coming.

I was gonna say I really do not like the new music and some of the design decisions but I don't mind the 'new artstyle.' It's fine.

I'm gonna make a mod that lets you swap out each song in a menu, although I want to wait until the full game is out

What's the point when the original game is still free?

...you mean a caco-bony.

No, he is a phony

Woohoo, more remakes that change whatever they can get away with! WOO! Loving it!

I am Toby Undertale and all my shit is UnderTale...

I want my games to be LESS SUCCESSFUL
I want LESS PEOPLE to play them
I want them to remain OBSCURE and UNKNOWN
I want ZERO video essays made about them
I want the downloads to be a shady mediafire link and NOTHING else

Just like Sony

This is based

BASED BASED BASED

Kek

off never deserved to get screwed like this...

niche fanbase that genuinely loves the work > large fandom that only likes it for superficial reasons

I genuinely don't understand what point this is trying to make.

I like new soundtrack and the new Fake Orchestra slaps, you're just coping because you're old

since it was copyrighted material

Nobody's ever gotten sued for putting a dopefish meme in their game.

Is it true the original composer didn't want to come back because he was afraid of getting jewed by laywers?

Yes, from both sides. He was afraid his songs will become YouTube copyrighted and will jew fungame creators or remixes because of it.
And he is right, even if you look at shit like Undertale

That and he didn't want fans to get copyrighted like what happened with the undertale yellow people

I want my games to be LESS SUCCESSFUL

I want them to remain OBSCURE and UNKNOWN

OFF is already a cult classic

I want LESS PEOPLE to play them

I want less people that I despise to play them, yes

I want ZERO video essays made about them

Obviously

I want the downloads to be a shady mediafire link and NOTHING else

Sovl

Here's the best version currently out there
ivynivek.itch.io/off-fd-translation

This this one censor the heckin' r-worderino?

Forgotten dreams

Gay

In his defense, he was asked to replace something that he knew shouldn't be replaced, but bit the bullet to make a remake happen anyways.

Anon Babble falling for Toby Fox guest composer marketing

You guys make it so easy. This was a pretty smart way to sell a free game.

scroll to the comments

very first one is some faggot complaining that there is no gender neutral option when starting a new game

These people are a fucking disease

ACC didn't want to get in a bunch of legal trouble over OFF becoming more than some free niche game. We all know how slimy record companies are.

I'm MERELY pretending to be an obnoxious nigger retard, what now, chuddie?

Purify yourself

No gender neutral option

But there was? I think there was an option to be referred to neutrally when presenting yourself to the judge.

There literally is a "Prefer not to say" when the game asks your gender

you can tell it probably took him an hour to write that all out in a diplomatic way that didn't name the jew, literally /ourguy/

That was in the 2.0 of the initial translation, it isn't in the original

This is the person in the story of this remake's development who had the most respect for and understanding of what Off is.

Bullshit, that response was just his typical quirky "humble" PR schtick
If he really felt that way he wouldn't be rubbing Undertale shit into the players' faces and ruining the immersion by drawing attention to himself

It'll bait normalfags into playing the original

>scroll to the comments

>very first one is some faggot complaining that there is no gender neutral option when starting a new game

These people are a fucking disease

Jesus fucking Christ, I've even seen these mentally ill westoids crying about the same thing on the steam page of some random Japanese games almost nobody heard about.

There's a difference between making a new songs to replace old ones and just putting your own music into another person's game. White meat doesn't have any undertale references, so why put bonetrousle in Dedan's theme for any reason besides vanity.

there are already fags going "umm ackchyually..." in order to defend and suck off toby's dick even more for this

you can ctrl+v that hussie pasta now.

Tobygawds, let's say thank you to Toby for saving OFF's remake by committing to the impossible task of composing new music for it

THANK YOU

Falling for rage bait on Steam forums is like losing chess to a dog

You know I hope the full release has the option to switch between old and new music. Mostly for Pepper Steak new one doesn't vibe as much for me.

No, it was not ragebait, it was unironic. That's what makes it scary.

Avatar Beat will be replaced by a Megalovania remix

It literally won't, see I'm sure there will be mods for using the original OST though.

Don't think so, retard.

Avatar Beat will have a Prenumbra Phantasm motif

One of the songs will have napstablook's theme and mad dummy's theme

I'm sure there will be mods for using the original OST though.

I expect it day 1.

is it actually good? the gameplay was so bad

Secretaries will have The Baby is You leitmotif

God, I'd fucking die of laughter.

I thought it was fine until it slapped me in the face at 00:41, jesus fucking christ. I think I probably would rather Toby rub his dick all over the soundtrack than whatever fucking soulless corpo composer they could have gotten instead, though, so I suppose this is still the least disgusting option

This remake is made by Fangamer, right? Let's be real, Toby Fox could drop his pants and shit on the floor and they'd greenlight it

Yup yup yup, we are coming full circle.

The original OFF and its soundtrack keeps being better. At this point, AI is better at making music than Toby is.
Thanks for ripping the song btw.
/thread

Papyrus was inspired by Dedan

Napstablook's theme is a homage to Pepper Steak already tho

I love how confidently wrong you are

Sure thing, Toby. Go back at making re-remixes of your own songs and shitting other devs' games like you did with the battle theme "White Meat", you hack.
youtube.com/watch?v=NAnZdMfEL3o

Imagine if a remake of Zelda 1 released and it was filled with Binding of Isaac references

"It's dangerous to go alone, take this!"

Link just swallows the sword and has it sticking through his stomach for the whole game

That would be fucking dope

This is a very reasonable explanation, especially since the original is still free and doesn't need to be pirated.

dopefish already got fucked over :^)

wtf is this

But I don't- I mean Toby doesn't have executive decision over what goes into the game and doesn't. Surely if it made in Mortis actually liked it?

the copefish

I like this as an electro swing song, but not as a battle theme

For those that don't know, this is doubly funny because Toby outright said that Papyrus is a direct reference to Dedan.
So by doing this, he is in a way turning it around and placing the onus of reference on Dedan instead of it being the other way around.

He literally just said "actually you're the reference now".

I'm starting to think he's forgotten how to write original music

implying he can even write original music. it's happened a few times where i've played a classic game and done a double take because a song sounded suspiciously similar to something in undertale. alright i know he sometimes makes a good battle theme but his work is derivative far more often than it should be

Death of the fucking author.
Once the product is done, leave it alone.
I'm tired of things being remade, reimaged, reworked, retwisted, reFUCKED I'm tired of it.
Leave it the fuck alone, make something new if you want to amaze me, don't work on the same shit again.

Why? Why did OFF of all things need a God damn remake?
What was it missing? What needs to be fixed?
It was a complete story, a complete experience, with a start, middle and beginning.
Why make another one? Why the fuck?
And I am supposed to like this? Just because the author decided to alter what was already good instead of making something NEW that is good?

I am NEVER going to support this shit, not only that but I will always be a fucking cunt and complain and whine whenever this shit happens.
Remakes are cancer, people that do remakes should have their hand chopped off, moreover if they expect me to enjoy their shit they should get their head lopped off.

Toby's track on YIIK was actually pretty ass and I'm tired of these faggots ignoring Bo en's track on YIIK

I don't think people think about YIIK that often.
Interesting OST though. Some of the tracks are complete doodoo but some of them are really interesting.

Surely if it made in Mortis actually liked it?

Do you really think Mortis would ever veto anything made by Toby? Typically if you contract someone to make a soundtrack you use what you get unless it's complete garbage.

Now that Anon Babble dislikes Toby Fox can we finally admit his games smuggle Woke shit into the mainstream such as trannyism?

blue poking fairy from Poke All Toads

When will the buff and nerd fairies rise against their opressor? This fairy has sacrificed dozens of their own fairykin just for the sole purpose of recreation, of what she considers "fun". No other fairy shall suffer being devoured by toads again.

TOTAL BLUE FAIRY DEATH!

remake

why? just play the original

There's plenty of memorable songs, even if they removed the best one from the game. youtube.com/watch?v=HnfRAiWsWi4
Toby's track in that game is pretty mid though, not that it's bad but it's definitely worse than the bo en stuff

toby's guest work is consistently mid

If Mortis Ghost was okay with this it's fine for me. Now, did the combat system get changed into something that isn't dogshit?

This is one of those where I'm not really that upset because the original is still very accessible.
Hell its free.

I think it's balanced better but the visuals are way too cramped

My only hope is more smut by japanese people with Switch release. I winder if they will release it already with japanese translation. There is one made fantranslation and they did reference tranny english translator already.

The only real change to battle system is removal of auto battle. There is some shitty crit system and that's it.

So I see there's a "Forgotten Dreams" translation and rebalance linked earlier, as well as 3.0 and 2.0 english translations. Which is best?

Forgotten Dreams is better balanced but removes a lot of the verbosity from the writing, its a lot less charming

So what's the best translation to play the original?

3.0

HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF
youtube.com/watch?v=bLzBMK4A0R4

Auto battle is literally the only reason the combat in the original could be even tolerated. If they're taking it out then they better be making it more interesting who else they will have really fucked this thing.

Toby Fox fans are rapidly headed towards "Disney Adult" tier consoomption.
I really hope Deltarune has some scene thats just unbelievable dogshit bad enough to bring their heads out of their asses.

The combat is good for what the game is, imo.
It's basic RPGMaker stuff but the move names and sound effects are really satisfying
If the game was longer it would be a bigger issue, but it's enough to do while you take in what you actually came for, the story

Toby Fox fans are rapidly headed towards "Disney Adult" tier consoomption.

?
what even is there to consoom for toby? one (1) game and currently two free demos?

Must consoom, must pretend everything was awful in the original and the changes are necessary

I think anon means more in the "blind fanboyism" sense. Deltarune thread we just had definitely had some anons not coping well with Toby being suddenly cast in a bad light for once.

Correct! By observing that Dedan inspired Toby to create a character whose theme he then retroactively stapled to Dedan, you are proving the point that this was done for vanity

Caravan palace's music sound more like OFF music than Toby's

Forgotten Dreams fixes the audio bugs, translates the art pieces instead of leaving them half-assed, and makes the combat slightly less shit (elements actually function)

I had this exact thought upon hearing White Meat for the first time.

This sounds like a Bonetrousle remix you would hear in one of those Genocide run fangames where Papyrus replaces Sans.

i don't really mind it since papyrus was heavily inspired by dedan and i like the track, but if he inserted more references into the music beyond this one that's where i'll take issue.

People have become so greedy lately
What's the point of re-releasing a game you could already play for free on pc but with a $35 tag? Ib dev did the same

money

So Vanity then, papyrus is not connected to Off. This is just Toby Fox creating a connection that only exists for him.

i guess nintendo should remake metroid and put the music from the hundreds of metroidvanias on it.

it's turning dedan into "hey look, this guy inspired papyrus!!11!"

What's the point of re-releasing a game you could already play for free on pc but with a $35 tag?

Nightmargin did that with Oneshot but with much lower price
It had an entire new story expansion with new characters
Probably that's what Mortis aiming for, plus make the game available physically and on consoles

youtube.com/watch?v=IeUuPI-Uve4
youtube.com/watch?v=DRRP5Er-yrs

I'm genuinely fine with it, I don't have to and won't buy the remakes, but I know others will and I'm fine with the creators finally getting some financial gain for creating something great.

no it's not. it's a brief leitmotif reference on a song that is just good by itself. the character is otherwise unaltered.

Wait, so Toby worked on this?
If he butchered the OST I swear to fucking god.

Those games are shit and IDC about them.

I will say though, $20 is the ideal price point for indies.

I have some terrible news for ya, Anon

the future of all OFF discussion on this site right before your eyes

the character is otherwise unaltered.

but his song is undertale

Stop being crybabies.
OFF's OST was never good except for Pepper Steak.

It'd be fine if it was Mortis' game being made available physical, but it's fangamers version, he was already getting paid for his work on a smaller scale.

Implying this hasn't been the state of all RPG Maker game discussion for the past decade

The original composer said he wouldn't sign off on the original tracks due to all the sampling shit, so they had to replace all the music

You triple faggot.

Toby can't do ambient focused songs

This is just elevator music now

revisionism

I'm going to choke you until you cum.

it's actually kinda fucked up that one of these guys is rich and the other isn't

Wait until you see tlou fans

Toby only did the battle tracks, Morusque did the others.
Not saying they don't suck ass, but at least be aware of who you are aiming at.

youre right actually, thats my mistake
the music ACC did for OFF is extremely iconic and unique, which is why i accepted from the moment i heard he wasnt going to be doing the new music that the new tracks wouldnt live up to his work. no point crying about it, a mod for the original music will be up day one and all these crybabies can plant it in their pirated copies like i will

Complete miss, no wonder this puzzle now has volume meter

Avatar Beat, Magic Pipe and the mall theme are bangers

but it's fangamers version

It's still the same game, just with a different soundtrack and more content
I personally think everyone here is overreacting about the soundtrack because it's not like the the original game and its soundtrack got wiped off the internet.
I see it more as two cakes situation

OFF fans

No one here even gave a shit about OFF until schizoniggers rigged it into winning King of Anon Babble, then suddenly it was a beloved Anon Babble indie classic all along despite maybe getting one or two 404'd threads a year up until that point.

I'm NTA but can you do that to me please

reminder that if you want to play a spiritual successor to OFF that has an actual good soundtrack play Mirrored Soul

papyrus was heavily inspired by dedan

That's the thing that rubs me the wrong way about this. Because Papyrus initially being a Dedan ripoff really was just Toby being uncreative as fuck. Toby himself realised this which is why he ended up massively changing Papyrus to being its own thing.

So we now have Dedan's music referencing Toby's character, because Toby couldn't be more original when coming up with his character designs. It would be like getting a Yume Nikki remake where Uboa shows up and starts playing the Gaster Leitmotif.

Soundtrack, art style, battle system.
I think it's more you should have supported the guy in the first place, instead of giving money to fangamer instead.

It's exactly the same shit as when Ridiculon replaced all of DannyB's songs on Super Meat Boy and BoI.
I swear instead of composing a song to fit the setting/mood they just arrange whatever the fuck they want and call it a day. It doesn't feel like OFF at all.
Whoever gave the green light to let this faggot ruin the ost should be curb stomped.
The worst part is that you just KNOW Reddit will defend him to death just because he's Toby Fox.

Hussie stop samefagging

You don't have to buy it. He's just raising money to make new shit.

Wrong Andrew

Mirrored Soul is a monster-collec--

faggot can't even draw

Everyone keeps whining about the music which is half-decent (but could never hope to beat Alias’ work) at best and mediocre/boring at worst and getting mindbroken over Toby
Meanwhile I’m more concerned about the translation

Does anybody even own the rights to the original Pepper Steak? It's been about 90 years now, so I'd imagine it's in public domain already.

art style

Did they change the sprites (aside from the fish)?

battle system.

What did they change with the battle system?

I think it's more you should have supported the guy in the first place, instead of giving money to fangamer instead.

Did Mortis Ghost released anything other than Off that costed money?
Also I have no problem giving money to Fangamer for merch of games I like
I bought Jack Frost plush from them and I loved it, so I might as well buy Judge's plush

youtu.be/hXYDvsQU1Mc?si=FIJRCT5zOfiBvQ6r

This is my favorite track. Especially the battle theme portion.

Brother this is way far down the list when it comes to RPG Maker style games

Did they change the sprites

The fights look more zoomed in.
Yeah, that's a royal fuckup.

For me, it's youtube.com/watch?v=QQ2zmh33kEc

Reddit will defend it

Just checked it out of curiosity. While they defend ost overall, calling it "two cakes", even they are appealed by Dedan having Bonetrousle in it. There are some that defend it, but I will say its 60/40 or 70/30 against it.

It's so good.
Other than Aphex Twin, would you happen to know any other artists that make music like this?

Imagine Irisu Syndrome soundtrack made by Toby
It would be glorious

Its called Peper Steak

That's the kind of suggestion you should never make, even as a joke.

The fact things are already shown as altered in the demo is not a good sign for the full release.

Battle

Balanced again for no reason and removed auto
He had a patreon

youtube.com/watch?v=WVph5zlM5JA
youtube.com/watch?v=FJemFS9VsM4

Nigger you can see literally the same character in the old and new artstyles in that image. It's pretty easy to see the difference.

Funnier is that all the shit non-battle tracks he didn't do are also going to get blamed on him.

Well, at least they made it unsettling

same energy

went from weird emo kid's notebook drawings to a CN cartoon/AS bumper

God I want to fuck 2011 Wilykit so BAD.

now that I think about it the music seems to be going this way too

The vibe of stay in your sweet coma just ruins it for me

WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT YOUR INDIE RPG BOOGEYMAN BUTCHERING THE MUSIC
WHAT THE FUCK DID THEY DO TO THE SOUND DESIGN, AND WHY DOES THE BATTLE SCREEN FEEL SO CLOSE

the new music is good anyway, not AS good but not nearly as bad as the tobyspergs are making it out to be

Music is okay, just not even close at all the original OST

Toby pushes non-binary bullshit far more. Seriously he should have just made Kris male. It would have actually fitted with the opening message of the game more if he had.

The fights look more zoomed in.

Then the art direction is still intact, just that the sprites aren't well placed

removed auto

Man that's a deal breaker, since it gets annoying having to deal with random encounters

He had a patreon

Look, I love OFF and I think Mortis Ghost is a cool guy, but I despise patreonshit
I would rather him release something I can actually buy then pay monthly for nothing
At least the guys who made Ena had an option to buy extra things on Steam as a way to show support

do we know why alias conrad coldwood didn't return to make the ost or give the rights to the original music or what? was there a dispute between him and mortis?

offfags are pretending pepper steak isnt the one good song while toby mogs the rest

He didn't want the original music to be copyrighted.

Listen to stay in your sweet coma and compare it to stay in your coma

Why are you faggots acting like you even cared about OFF before this?
I bet more of you never played it and only know it because King of Anon Babble

ACC doesn't like having an internet presence, but also because of how sample-heavy the original soundtrack was kinda made it impossible to take into a commercial release.
also he fucking hates youtube's content ID bullshit (justified)

Nigger I was an OFF fan before batter got king of Anon Babble

Judge/Batter get a Hopes & Dreams remix

This would be unironically kino though.

have book

I bought all his stuff until he started selling tiny books like "If My Dogs Were Middle Aged Men."

after getting a chance to hear it in action ive warmed up to white meat

I too find white guys better than black guys. Like they'on yell or hit you or none. It's all alright babygirl now call me massah.

If the alternative is this fucking disgrace then yes, I would rather not get a remake at all.

undertale yellow people

qrd?

710853880

What causes this?

Btw, isn't Touhou already stained by Tobias Radiation Fox. I remember there was some collab shit.

He knows, that's why he scrubbed all his involvement on that game from the internet.

collab wasn't in-game music

Fangamer copyright striker and dmcad undertale yellow's fan songs

There is a chance Sucre isn't futured in the remake, since she isn't Mortis' property.
Good night

What do you mean she isn't his property

Forgotten collab

What the fuck is her deal? I don't particularly care about her, but I'd be a bit upset to see her gone.

also she's naked which is a BIG no-no

I want LESS PEOPLE to play them

I want them to remain OBSCURE and UNKNOWN

I want ZERO video essays made about them

This but unironically. Instead there’s going to be 20 more OFF video essays by the end of June and I have to look at the opinions of people who only played the remake because “It inspired Undertale! Toby did music for it!”
Mind you, I love both OFF and UT/DR very dearly, but a work’s fanbase is a prevalent part of its presence. It’s only a matter of time before we start seeing 6 hour videos titled shit like “DELTARUNE - Hugo Theory” or “DELTARUNE - Purification Theory”.

they're called asians anon

She is made by Mortis' classmate who had his own project with her in it. That's why she is a secret boss. But that also means Mortis didn't create her.

No one cares about Z.AI.N anymore

I believe japs will save us again. I hope they do.

I want my games to be LESS SUCCESSFUL

I want LESS PEOPLE to play them

I want them to remain OBSCURE and UNKNOWN

I want ZERO video essays made about them

I want the downloads to be a shady mediafire link and NOTHING else

I've been playing obscure vidya and being part of their communities since way before 2000, and I can tell you from experience that there isn't even a SINGLE community that have gotten better by the source material becoming more popular.
Not a single one.

I’m really banking on her existence in the remake just being kept under wraps for the sake of newgens, since in the original game she’s incredibly obscure. Pardon my copium.

I am also being completely unironic.

BASED.

I don't even think it's necessarily intentional it's just blatantly similar

Screencapped in case Tobert actually pulls this shit.

image

slop game

is this another homostuck spawn or something

yeah

being deaf = low iq

removed auto

I dislike this decision. Auto was amazing, especially since you could step in at any time if things were getting rough.

Unironically, who asked for this?
Because I'm sure as hell old OFFfags didn't, especially considering the state of the """remakes""" these days.

I did not care for OFF.

Zacharie's lover. Quite the sweetheart

So you're telling me the guy who based Papyrus on dedan just so happened to put his leimotif is dedan's boss fight? I have a highway to sell to you Anon

I vaguely recall Toby talking about taking the role only to reduce the backlash that the remake was going to get from having a different composer and soundtrack?

I refuse to believe people could be this gullible.

The toby fox obsession is tiring
and next week when new deltarune drops its only going to get so much worse
People worship him like a saint

This is the Undertale fanbase we're talking about.
They will take anything that comes anywhere out of Toby's body like it's gold.

offtherpg.com/interviews/tobyfox/
He said making a new track to replace Pepper Steak

feels like I got assigned to take a bullet in the back for everybody else

He also said

Trying to replace those songs feels like breaking into somebody's house and pasting your face into their family photo album.

which is extremely ironic. Gee, I wonder why he might feel like he's pasting his face into someone's photo album?

I won't I'm still mad he wasted more time working on anything else other than his supposed dream game

Well anon, show us what have you created.
Have you ever thought that people like Toby because he's one of the most talentful people in the whole industry right now?

I love how this thread is just an excuse to hate on Toby Fox cause he made it big and anons are jealous he’s working with their favorite indie devs. Like seriously this remake kicks ass and I cannot wait to pick this up. You guys can complain about it every day while I have replaying a classic.

If that’s the case, I hope every game you ever loved gets a remake and Toby Fox works on the OST for all of them!

Yeah, I can't wait to play, it's gonna be a blast!

most talentful

Try again rakeesh

most talentful

He's a shit artist and a shit coder.
He said so himself.

bro could've politely declined to work on his unfinished game or go on another weeb trip to grorious nippon

It funny because I can totally imagine people telling him that maybe just because he had to remake the song it doesn't mean he should take that as an opportunity to add Undertale leitmotifs into the ost and he just going "well who cares, my fans will like it anyway"

I would say that his indie game becoming immortalized as one of the most beloved games in the decade, maybe even century is more relevant that what he said while trying to humblebrag.

None of that stopped him from making great games. It just shows he is indeed talented, making the most with what he knows.

None of that stopped him from making great games.

He hasn't made a great game yet, just a bunch of overrated, mediocre crap hyped up by his insane cultists.

go on another weeb trip to grorious nippon

He literally lives there though without caring much about westoids. I would do the same.

Now THIS is rich LMFuckingAO

I find it funny how in OFF I was 100% on board with the mission to purify everything, but in a certain other French game I was mostly against it and would rather side with preserving the world and protecting the people.

It really is a matter of framing. That and the Batter isn't a two-faced* manipulative bastard.

You're acting as if Toby is the first game dev ever to have a huge following

Why aren't you posting in a thread about idk Call of Duty of Last of Us or whatever

The world of OFF wasn't worth saving anyway.
It was pretty much being kept in life support against its will.

oh shit, that's the guy who invented the camera

I accidentally clicked this thread instead of the Clair Obscur thread I wanted.

Batter is a cruel unthinking machine he is solely focused on his mission at hand first and foremost which is why he trusts us to control his actions

It was pretty much being kept in life support against its will.

Heh, yeah. Nothing alike. Haha.

umm actually his lack of talent is irrelevant

Okay cool.

HUSSIE, IS THAT YOU HUSSIE?

Fitting that both of them have fanbases that will blindly jack off anything they do or say.

Batter is a cruel unthinking machine

He was a holy man on a righteous mission and in this house the Batter is a hero, end of world

Post the rest.

Just like when he said that Anon Babble would instantly act like they always hated Undertale the moment it became popular.
I wonder why he's always right when it come to these things... Hmm...?

t. batterchud
DECHAD and his beloved Zone 1 were carrying alone the whole universe by providing and manufacturing the 4 elements for the parasites of Zone 2 and 3

You know maybe it's me going crazy but I think Clockwork made me realize the issue with the new music is it doesn't have that oppressive or odd feel to it as much. Like the original clockwork makes you feel uncomfortable in a way the new one doesn't.
youtube.com/watch?v=uy_MFtTFhd8
youtube.com/watch?v=ZkU0INkLbCg

come in here expecting OFF

get REE instead

The new music feels like we're in an OFF themed theme park

Toby hitting it big always makes Anon Babble seethe like crazy

Because it's something that already happened with other types of media beforehand so it's something that's safe to predict.
Basically the same as the Simpsons, people joke that The Simpsons predicts the future but in reality they just parody stuff that already was happening at the time.

I like both.

I think they both have their different strengths

As all remakes deserve

I don't see the issue.

Stop defending remakes you gargantuan faggot because I'm sure as hell you didn't enjoy that 3d Yume Nikki remake

That's how I feel too
The original game still exists, and the new release is a nice addition

I liked it though?
I'm not a niggerfaggot like you

The issue is that there's a stupid precedent set where lazy ass motherfuckers who created free games back in the day are being encouraged to re-release them with almost no substantial improvements, but this time with a hefty price tag, and retards everywhere are paying for the privilege and telling the market "yes, we WANT lazy rehashes of previously free shit!"
It's some weird fucking offshoot of rent-seeking behavior and these creators don't want to actually bother to create anything new, instead preferring just to ride their one "hit" and milk it until the cow's dry.

I don't believe you

These translations carry an important legacy, being the gateway for the English speaking audience. However, if you're looking for an accurate and faithful translation, you may come away dissatisfied...

The translation takes multiple creative liberties in 2.0 and 3.0, being more of a localisation.

Fuck off, faggot.

That image doesn't really fit the situation anon, as in this situation the cake on the left is 35$ while the one on the right is free.

unironically defending inferior remakes with no explanation other than “i just like it” ITT

you faggots are insuffrable

No, you see.
I NEED to buy the OFF, IB and Yume Nikki remakes despite no relevant content being added to them.
I need to CONSUME.

is that not just a wallpaper you can turn off like in FAITH?

sign in or create an account

wtf since when does soundcloud not let you listen without one???

worked for me and I've never made an account

click the x button on the top right ninfriendo

why though?

If you want gender neutral liberties then play 2 and 3 faggot

The issue is that there's a stupid precedent set where lazy ass motherfuckers who created free games back in the day are being encouraged to re-release them with almost no substantial improvements

Then don't buy them?
Off adds new content

I did that but still can't listen. Pushing the play button brings up the prompt again

Fuck this I'll just play an OFF fan game instead maybe HOME or PURE even NEW would be better

Then don't buy them?

It's not enough that I don't buy them. Others must also not buy them, but they are literally too retarded not to.

They shouldnt exist because it hurts the legacy of these titles. Look at the Klonoa discussion, youd love to hear about how great the original game are, but then some shitty half-assed remake along with them which causes discussion to get derailed.

J-just dont buy them

okay but im forced to live in a world where they exist and have to talk to other people about the remakes now whenever im talking about off

No one talked about the games in Klonoa threads anyway

You have no control to have everything goes in your way
That's life for you

They shouldnt exist because it hurts the legacy of these titles.

Give an example where a game getting a remake have actually hurts its legacy
It won't be an indie game for sure

Look at the Klonoa discussion, youd love to hear about how great the original game are, but then some shitty half-assed remake along with them which causes discussion to get derailed.

Klonoa threads were already getting derailed by people wanting to fuck Klonoa years before the remakes was a thing.
At least Klonoa 1 in Phantasy Reverie Series uses the original design and voices than what Wii version did

Also ironically, all the remake did to the threads is bringing faggots who whine about people playing the remake

Ao oni
Yume Nikki
Corpse Party
Witch's house
Misato

japanese anime garbage

So nothing of value then. Thanks for the concession.

Persona 3
Klonoa
RE4
Paper Mario TTYD
there are so many canerous examples, just wait till MGS delta and itll be unavoidable

I don't know about the rest but

Yume Nikki

Everyone hated the 3D game as well as the Steam version, and how the translation changed the name of the items

Also didn't Corpse Party kept getting rereleases for the past 20 years?

B-BUT THOSE DON'T COUNT

shut the fuck up nigger

>Klonoa

How?

Bro I'm stealin this shit what are you talking about

Also ironically, all the remake did to the threads is bringing faggots who whine about people playing the remake

which is exactly my point, underwhelming remakes do nothing but shit up discussion and their legacy

lazy remake collection with a few bad changes like klonoa 2’s lighting and translation being worse

Can I get a damage report on Front Gate?
youtu.be/JYp9zxKprRc

I don't place the quality of the product over the impact of the discussions because Anon Babble and the internet as a whole is a shithole
I'm fine with a remakes if it means getting a new Klonoa entry for the first time in 20 years

That didn't impact the legacy of the game

if it means getting a new Klonoa entry

How many times has this happened? Once?

I imagine he added bonetrousle because he was lazy/lacked creativity, he utilizes leitmotifs partly because of that too

Not only is the discussion shitted up the remake is actually inferior to the original. Two negatives, only saving grace from a botched remake is new promo assets or something autistic like that

Read the post again
Did you miss out the post ko/v/ Off threads where it kept getting derailed and shitposters kept calling OFF a tranny game?
Also imagine caring about the quality of discussions on fucking Anon Babble

I think Toby's stuff is alright, it just doesn't really feel like OFF. It is what it is, I suppose. Mortis is getting his paycheck

the greatness of peper steak is the jaunty music paired with heavy, hammering machine sounds and ominous background noises, the upbeat music repeating like it's corrupted adds to the tone, there's a reason it fit the original so well

Read the post again

Then you're even more retarded for considering a remake a new entry

Also imagine caring about the quality of discussions on fucking Anon Babble

they’re still fun but they’re pretty rare now. idk just stop being a gay cheerleader for such a nothing release

F(ourth)PBP

The shitted up discussions are self-inflicted. You can't deny that Toby made this thread seethe

This sort of argument works exceptionally poorly in this case. Or are we at that stage where any piece of software without OFFICIAL™ RELEASE® cannot be "physically owned"?

mutt reading comprehension

When I said a new entry, i meant a new game that isn't a remake or a remaster, and the last game we had that was Klonoa Heroes over 20 years ago
Stop being a jaded faggot and demand everything to go in your way

Dude shut up I just want to be able to put it on my shelf so people know I like it when they visit rather than having to constantly "shill" shit to them that might as well not exist to them.

the side art genuinely sucks, like sucks ass from a technical standpoint, i've seen high schoolers make better digital art, significantly, who the fuck drew that because it's pissing me off to look at it
if you can see the top of the smallest cube you should be able to see the top of the second cube right next to it, that how perspective works you fucking 3rd grader

I did some more research into it. Yeah I can see it now. That was a bad idea throwing his own Games music into the song of another game. Doesn't feel the same does it. Wow first bad decision in a long time.

Stop being a jaded faggot and demand everything to go in your way

retarded niggeryou’re not worth my time

When I said a new entry, i meant a new game that isn't a remake or a remaster,

So you literally don't know how to read either? My first post asked how many times remakes actually led to getting a new game in a series you fucking nigger.
Don't bother responding, you are clearly too stupid to keep posting. Go to bed, go eat, get some fucking blood flowing to your tiny brain.

It sounds neat. I don't care that it isn't like the original, I can listen to that too

and? SO WHAT?

Dude shut up

no

Whatever say, jaded boy

My first post asked how many times remakes actually led to getting a new game in a series you fucking nigger.

Didn't they teach you at school to speak in complete sentences and not sound vague?
Ninja Gaiden is getting new games after the (shitty) remasters, and Crash got new games too

can't wait to smash the kid's skull in again and the beat the judge's ass

Learn how to read and then come back

Learn to speak in complete sentences.

2.0 is soulful schizobabble "translated" by somebody who doesn't know english OR french, the translator adds "retard" because it's funny

3.0 is the same as above but reworded to be more boring and with "retard" removed because the translator trooned out (the remake uses this)

forgotten dreams is translated by an actual frog, "retard" is absent because it was never in the original in the first place

>"retard" is absent because it was never in the original in the first place

That makes its usage even funnier

We will not turn away from our duty. We will carry out our mission with grim purpose and righteous zeal.

(the remake uses this)

Welp, it really sucks people actually pay money for this shit

I'll take 2.0 because I find it to be the most entertaining and interesting. Hehe, "competences", how delightfully offbeat. Adds to the atmosphere