Do you think using savestates or guides invalidates someone from saying they beat the game?

Do you think using savestates or guides invalidates someone from saying they beat the game?

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What does "beating a game" mean to you? Is it supposed to be some sort of brag? Or does it mean just getting to the end so they know all the twists and understand all the mechanics?

Only A.
I'd say B and C also count, but using savestates is verboten and invalidates their runs.
If "suspend point" is supposed to mean "long-term pause" then bitch just send your Switch to sleep, what the hell is a "suspend point" anyway?

People that rely too much on save states tend to give themselves a worse experience by trying to brute force their way through everything instead of giving themselves time to reflect and think of new strategies on the way back between deaths. It doesn't really matter whether someone "beat" the game or not as long as they have a good time playing it. Would rape all three.

I used save states, fast forward, slow down, rewind, gameshark codes, game genie codes, action replay codes, hex edits, romhacks, cheat engine, in-game cheat codes, and save scumming.
I beat the game. No amount of seething and malding from Anon Babble will ever change that.

Is a girl

Yeah there's no way any of them beat Zelda

It's like saving the game, which is something that isn't meant to be possible and therefore a cheat. You're supposed to beat it in one sitting.

guides

No, some games are full of esoteric bullshit no reasonable person would figure out

savestates

Yes

How do you use save states to skip rupee grind? All they do is take you back in time, any progress would be undone

I used my left hand, my right hand,hentai, pornography, amsr, joi, a fleshlight, sexdoll, ai chatbot, and blow up doll.

I had sex! No amount of seething and malding from Anon Babble will ever change that!

childs

A and B beat the game
C did not

Cheating at the money making game

A is fair, you were meant to buy guides or speak with friends.
All the others didn't beat the game.

But you can do that with Up+A in game reset.

only the child who is best at playing flutes beat the game

C didn't beat the game. The rest are fine.

You mean whichever one knows that the dungeon the flute takes you to is decided based on the direction you're facing?

fuck your topic OP
Fuck, marry, kill?

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Child A is cutest, so she is telling the truth

Only A beat it. I use save states for when I'm closing my emus because manually saving old games is tedious and some games have no function. B and C are disingenuous cheating niggers and need correction

I wouldn't kill a child.

Marry all of them.
Hurting a child is a crime

A got the most authentic experience as to what playing the game in its time would be like.

Fuck red kill blue, fuck red again then kill her and then marry purple fuck her then kill her as well

hints from friends and magazines

By no stretch of the imagination did any of these bitches beat the fucking game.

which one had the most fun though, that's all that really matters

but some autists on an anonymous internet forum will say they didn't actually beat the game!

so what?

Which of them are still virgins?

The only girls that have finished Zelda 1 were boys when they did so

Yabbadabbadoo I'm such a happy cuck!

Marry red, kill blue fuck purple

Rape all 3.
Who is the artist?

Nerdy girls can beat Zelda casually just fine.
You should demand a penis inspection if you see them doing speedrun tricks or 3 heart runs, however.

i never understood this, why are adult men so invaluable compared to a child/female?

a robot or an animal would see us as humans regardless and kill indiscriminately which is based

Nah. Limited continue systems suck ass.

Anon, the joke is that they fuck children.

Fuck B
Marry A
Kill C
I drew them

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The child is cuter

If "suspend point" is supposed to mean "long-term pause" then bitch just send your Switch to sleep

If youre going to just leave your consol on than bitch just use a suspend point. Seriously what a small obtuse thing to be a gatekeeper about

Child C is the most rapeable with that short skirt. Change my mind.

Post more.

I need to breed that smile off B's face (or into a bigger one)

Please draw B again, mocking me, the viewer.

A is the only true winner.

A is the only legit play because that's how you play games
save states didn't exist back then

Yes the brat is asking for it with that smug face as well

invalidates their runs

BY WHOM?
Who claims to have the absolute authority over if somebody passed a game or not? How do you even invalidate it? Is there a document or a certificate?

i think using a guide is a lesser offence compared to savestates

Who made the art?

This guy can create wives with his hands. is he a god?

You didn't beat the game. Stop whining.

Could you draw C and B rage quitting over trying to beat the game without savestates while A smugly watches on?

I think it's all a valid way of "beating the game," it's just a question of what you find fun or why you're playing this particular game.
Video games are supposed to be fun, and with single player games at least it's not a competition. Did Girl A play the game in a way that would be harder than girl B who outperformed girl C? Yes, but unless they're all measuring who's the better gamer between them the way they got to the end is really meaningless. It's like how some people power level in C RPGs like Skyrim and other people just barrel head first through the game without purposefully leveling up skills. Is grinding for levels, or using broken exploits legitimate? I'd say so. Does it make the game easier? Of course it does. But if you beat Skyrim, you beat Skyrim, regardless of if you duplicated a skill book and drank a bunch of potions to craft armor of invincibility and infinite carry weight, as well as gauntlets of unhanded explosive hyper death, or beat the game at level 1 with no armor only using stealth and pocket knives, you still beat Skyrim.

not trying to get her pregnant.

Lame. At least fita the A on the hat.

Not if you cheated.

She doesn't even have periods yet, how can she get pregnant

A should be Child C.
B should be Child A.
C should be Child B.

Then why avoid cunny.
Anal is just gay. Next time draw boys getting the D

I don't get it

All of them beat the game, but A is a normalfag, B is shit, and C is retarded

BY WHOM?

everyone
but especially me

I agree

What constitutes cheating? Where is the threshold between using mechanics in a game and exploiting them to cheat? Is skipping levels in Mario with a warp pipe cheating? Is BLJing up the stairs to skip getting 70 stars cheating? Where do you draw that line? And do we actually need to draw a line or does it just not matter?

A doesn't look like she'd play retro consoles, she'd be a switch player therefore she should be Child C.
B does look like she'd play on retro consoles, so Child A.
C looks like she'd play on PC, so Child B.

If you can't do it with the original format the game was made with then the run is invalidated.

uhhhh moar

See

Save states are not even part of the game. Guides are not intended. Maybe for a replay but you should play the game on your own.

skips most of the movie

read a review

saw the trailer

You didn't watch the movie

Savestates

Depends how they're used. Of the examples given, I'd say C's usage of them as a way of retaining progress between play sessions is perfectly fine, since it's functionally no different from just hitting the pause button and stepping away from the console. B using them as checkpoints before bosses is also vaguely passable, since it doesn't really affect much besides saving her some time. Savescumming to rig the money making game is definitely cheating, though

Guides

Depends on the game. Using guides in a game where winning is entirely reliant on knowledge/deduction (eg. Ace Attorney) is unambiguous "you didn't beat the game" territory because it invalidates the whole challenge, but using guides in something more action-heavy isn't as big a deal because knowing what to do in theory doesn't let you bypass having to actually do it in practice

IMO,

B's win is legit. Her use of savestates does undermine its legitimacy somewhat, but at the end of the day she still figured everything out on her own and thus beat the game primarily on her own merit

C is the least legitimate, since she circumvented any difficulty from the puzzles/exploration (which are a significant part of Zelda 1) by looking up the answers. She did at least have to play through the combat bits herself, but she clearly didn't earn her victory as much as the other two did

A is definitely more legitimate than C, but it's hard to judge by how much without knowing how detailed the "hints" she got were

Ignore A, she looks like a nice girl and deserves to find a young man her age and experience puppy love with someone her own age.
Fuck B, she's a brat that 100% needs correcting.
Marry C, she looks like she'd grow up to be a sweet girl, and an ideal wife.

Retro games were made with guides in mind so kids would buy them, also manuals

All 3 reached the ending, so all 3 beat the game.

I don't care

My mom beat Zelda 1

Idk this sound like the usual burger cope.

Which one has a penis?

I wish everyone who started a thread cared enough to make OC to do it.

Using save states to cut out retarded tedium is completely fine.

They look like they fuck fat old men.

Fake gamer. Zelda has a save function it was one of it's big selling features.

t. game journo

got hints from friends and magazines

none of them beat the game

any single player game that requires grind is a shit game
resources should come naturally from playing the game to the point where you don't feel the need to grind for them but also can't really buy everything you want
if I can earn it by doing one 0 skill mundane "task" 100 times over then I will just edit the save file or cheat

Video games are arguably a branch of hand puzzles, so making things too easy removes the fun factor. That being said, the developers aren't perfect and are often working on tight deadlines, so making things simpler for yourself may be necessary due to poor decisions.

Hints are perfectly fine.
Save states are always okay so long as it isn't during the battle.
Using a guide is valid for a quick skim to know what is in the game, then using it as a safety net if you can't figure it out on your own after 5 minutes. If you rely on it for every step of the game, you'll spend more time reading the guide than actually playing and figuring things out on your own.

I'd consider all 3 to have beaten the game.

I'd really only invalidate your run if you save stated at the start of every room and loaded anytime you took damage or used a code to make yourself completely invincible or something.

30yo game vs 30yo man.

DAMN BRAT

Child B is the worst. I am disappoint.

B is best because she has the nicest butt.

I did this

if you fail in a dungeon you have to buy the expensive red potion to try again

so just make a savestate at the beginning of the dungeon and try again instead of having to gather the rupees again

False

True

Well I think the opposite.

Fuck B, Marry C, hug A.

marry a, then plap a, b and c, kill op

Requester here, thank you very much

FPBP

Why can no one answer this?

Both

I finally get what people mean when they say an image makes them too horny to read the text.

anon... those are children!

Out of A!

This is a pedophile thread

This is a lolicon thread.

This is a thread.

this but unironically