Will Dark Heresy surpass Rogue Trader or will it be a downgrade?

Will Dark Heresy surpass Rogue Trader or will it be a downgrade?

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Dunno lol.

Haven't really followed Owlcat's stuff before, but thinking I might pick up Rogue Trader if it has a "game of the year" type of deal with all the DLCs eventually. Do they do those sorts of sales?

The companion cast so far definitely looks like it will be worse than RTs. I also dislike that Owlcat is using Dark Heresy and then ignoring the power levels such a game is supposed to be at and instead has you investigating the god damned Tyrant Star. Knowing Owlcat, you'll probably be a full Inquisitor Lord with your own cabal by the time the game ends, hardly the low stakes, gritty and thankless hero type campaign most people were hoping for in a Dark Heresy game. Owlcat cannot help themselves when it comes to making their protagonists super beings, it seems. This IS the same company that rewrote WotR to make everyone that wasn't the protagonist a bumbling retard, so it's not really surprising, but it is still disappointing.

If you're only planning on a single playthrough, you should wait, they already announced two more full DLCs in the next season pass, both of which are going to add a full companion and 15-20 hours of content each.

CRPG always end up being a higher power level than just a normal TT Campaign

Dark Heresy is explicitly supposed to be a low level campaign where you are expendable trash, and you are fully expected to die in the course of your missions. The whole fun of the campaign is somehow finding a way to survive when you can barely afford a las rifle and the Inquisitor is sending you on suicide runs just to get a bit of information. That was why people were looking forward to this, but ultimately it seems like Owlcat is disregarding it entirely and it will just be RT 2.

I still think it will be fun, despite that.

I am disappointed it isn't 40k mudcore like it should be, but I'm still happy for more 40k media. Owlcat seems to have an okay grasp of the setting, even if they're disregarding Dark Heresy's power level itself.

Yeah, but I would be surprised if Owlcat didn't do that.
All their games have the PC given a lot of social power quite early on in the game as it makes the player's choices matter more, so it makes them feel more important.
It's the same reason I wouldn't want them to do a WFRP game, the players' auto-generated Dung collector PC shouldn't suddenly be given a noble title and lands just because they lucked into being the main character of a CRPG

Dark Heresy is explicitly supposed to be a low level campaign where you are expendable trash, and you are fully expected to die in the course of your missions

That would be a shitty game and everyone repeating the shit you are saying on this board is a low functioning autist.

Eh, it's hit and miss. Look at Yrliet, genuinely the worst written Eldar of all time, whoever wrote her had no clue how they work or what they are, and it shows, absolutely lazy and incompetent writing. Then you have stellar characters like Marazhai and Pasqal that knock it out of the park for what they are in 40K. This is a general problem with Owlcat, some of their writers are really solid, but others produce forgettable, bland characters or outright garbage.

It would be an extremely fun game, actually, why in the world do you think otherwise?

A more true-to-tabletop DH CRPG would just be 40k Disco Elysium with some combat encounters, worse writing, and less communist.

Because this

I think it would be fun. But as a roguelite.

There's plenty of combat in Dark Heresy, it's just extremely lethal and you can die easily. Considering how trivial and pointless the combat became in RT, that would be a good thing, since it would make it far more likely Owlcat would make a combat system that would actually be interesting and require actual tactical thought for once.

insert slightly horny post lamenting lack of catachan female companion here

Based on the small backstories they've revealed, the only interesting companion so far is the Kroot. The companions they've shown so far are a serious downgrade from RT, in general, at any rate.

inb4 cope about this not being all the companiosn but these are the ones they chose to advertise with

is that renpy

Companions look cooler already
They already have base mechanics, features and assets ready so they don't have to spend resources like money, manpower and time on them, instead they can focus on making game more non linear and of higher quality

I'm confident it will be better

Companions look cooler

Is that why one of the biggest criticisms has been how bad the companion cast looks compared to RT? They look bland and subpar overall, and their backstories are all pretty dull as well.

Where are the GIRLS??? I need to KNOW which romance option will KEK me!

science niggress

pass

I don't really care about companion appearance, hope they are well written and have fun quests. People coomed to the pospect of Eldar waifu, based on Yrliet's appearance but she was the most annoying companion in the game on average (she had her moments tho)

Yeah she looks absolutely atrocious.

She had her moments

Yeah, her moments of complete and absolute retardation. You're already admitting even Yrliet looks more interesting than any of the Dark Heresy companions, though, except maybe the Kroot.

Default straight male love interest is a nigger

later skater

She's not a romance option

Are any of them?

They haven't mentioned which ones are romanceable, nooootice the patterns then the nog won't be a romance option, but the kroot will be

the other female on the cover is the romance option anon
take all the time you need to figure out who it is

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Tau gf when?

Not sure why you'd think the eldar we will get is a downgrade from Yrliet or why you think someone like the catachan will not be a good enough imperial bro character.
Ogryn can be very hit or miss.

Only one, I do not care for right now is the medic.

Besides, my favorite RT character ended up being one who was not in the initial promo pic (Abelard), so yeah, later reveals of teh cast matter a lot

Later reveals matter

Yeah, they do, since all the ones they've shown so far are lackluster and uninteresting.

I disagree with you, I made points as to why, and you are an autistic son of a retard

I didn't say that. Catachan, Eldar Psyker, Ogryn look cooler than her at glance. I just said people in general were excited by elf waifu character, but turned out shit. People thought Abelard was whatever when his portrait was revealed, but he is one of the most beloved companions on all sites discussing the game.

I only saw people complaining about DH cast here because le romances, everywhere else reception seems to be positive

Both covers have 5 companions surrounding MC
On RT there is:

Spees Muhreen from the worst chapter

Gay looking random psyker

SoB without boob armor, but I will still count her as a positive

Only 1 Xenos which is a Ranger, but it's still something I guess

Navigator which feels dumb to take on mission

DH:

Kroot, a Predator expy

Second Xeno which is an Eldar Corsair and those are cooler than Rangers with a wider variety of equipment and backgrounds

Instead of gay looking psyker there is a badass Catachan

Ogryn instead of Space Marine

Le black wymyn

RT is 2/5, maybe 2.5 due to Navigator if I ignore how dumb it is to take her on missions
DH is 4/5

Abelard was the first companion they showed

Well before portrait he was in trailer too.
Idira alongside him and she is a good character too. People shat on her at glance cause she is black.

TTRPG =/= video game and you need to understand that.

You made zero points whatsoever, whereas I already pointed out that aside from the Kroot, not only are their aesthetics dull and unappealing, their backstories are as well. What, precisely, do you like about any of them? They are bland and forgettable at best, and in the medics case, downright repulsive.

Navigator objection

I never really saw the point of this argument since logically speaking the RT would just send his forces down to the worlds in question rather than ever leave his ship, as well.

Nah, many situations may require RT's personal attention. Risking Navigator is just pointless

Idk how would a high mortality setting be good in a crpg. Can I get any ideas for a concept?
Because how I see it, you wouldn't get much out of companions since they die easily, either combat permadeath or story forcing it. So then you'd be stuck with random generated shmucks with no personality.

a)Only your MC is vital, the rest are fodder custom characters you create constantly and named characters are only support staff
b)You ignore crpg structure and make it xcom

The RT is far more important than the Navigator, which are easily replaceable once you leave the first sector, which is why if you kill Cassia you can just create a custom character to replace her. If you can justify the RT risking himself on missions, you can easily do the same for a replaceable resource as well.

Is Yrliet well written? I get she is unlikable, but is she written well as an unlikable character?

You can replace her in her story quest, if you get her killed while on an adventure you are fucked and stranded again.

How many threads will you ask this at?

No, she's outright the worst written companion Owlcat ever made in all three of their games.

Spees Muhreen from the worst chapter

Ulfar is a Smurf?.

No, from something with 'Iron' in its name

repostan my unpopular opinion from /crpgg/
I think her writing has problems, but I wouldn't say she is terrible. Her being a fuckup and a cunt is reflected and there is an irony in her superiority complex and she ends up seeing that Eldar can be just as retarded as humans. Tho a lot of this is locked by her romance path. I get she is annoying, whiney and arrogant, but there are plenty of people like that irl, not every character has to be cool and have good traits. She is a cunt, her writing is ok if all of this is intentional.

Smurfs are ok. Wolves reek of donut steel fanfiction, made by furfag at that, while denying us a proper vikang chapter

I think if she was at least not annoying and bitching too much, she'd be likeable. Marazhai has no redeeming qualities he is an evil bastard through and through, but he is funny and a genuinely entertaining companion.

The power level scaling between Dark Heresy and Rogue Trader TTRPGS is so that max level character in DH is like lvl3 or something in RT (and the max lvl is 10 in both). Actually the Only War RPG has the same relationship toward DH as DH has to RT.

denying us a proper viking faction

I swear people that say shit like this just reek of "didn't play the game"
Ulfar is the best fucking representation of the Wolves in years PRECISELY because he's a proper fucking space viking instead of one long wolf reference.

Xer turned out to be fine, but I didn't know this before playing and just judged him by antiSW bias.

She's just badly written. It's not the content specifically that makes her bad, it's that what content is there is handled in a badly done and poorly executed fashion. Her character concept and arc could've worked if someone who actually knew what they were doing wrote it, but that's not what happened.

She's about a 7 in terms of her writing. Solid but lots of issues.

Space Wolves are one of the most popular and well liked SM chapters, I do not see how anyone could say they are the "worst" when chapters like the Iron Hands and Imperial Fists exist, that no one likes or cares about at all.

The scene set up in the poster seems to indicate they're on a ship that's very obviously Imperium (see the windows that look like a church, and the map in the background) so what they're demonstrating is clearly an assault on your ship by deldar that you're defending against.
With that in mind, Cassia being in the scene set up isn't that weird.

I dislike them. Vanilla chapters like IFs are cool. Iron Hands are edgy cunts which is what I want from 40k anyway

That is just how Owlcat makes their games. Big on the power fantasy.

That was why people were looking forward to this,

KEK no. That is why YOU were looking forward to it.
You just know that most people will bitch if they are stuck as some worthless lackey for the entire game.

Dark Heresy's power level

In the Dark Heresy Ascension splatbook you can create an inquisitor pc, vindicare assassins and the like.

In no universe does le black genius female scientist look cooler than anything in Rogue Trader.

You just know that most people will bitch if they are stuck as some worthless lackey for the entire game.

Reminder that most people (myself included) hated the bullshit in act 3 with Trevantias when you weren't allowed to blow him the fuck out right on the spot
So yes, you're right, and there's proof.

most people were hoping for

Delusional.

Splat books exist exclusively for when you're bored of a system and want to do something weird and new with it.
Dark Heresy's higher power splats are not particularly highly regarded.

And just so you know, there are books like Book of Erotic Fantasy and Book of Vile Darkness for DnD. That doesn't mean DnD is for ERP or best represented by the iconic class, "Cancer Mage"

She's alright but I wish her betraying you was handled better

alright bros do I play shotgun arbites or pyro psyker bladedancer/executioner when the dlc comes out

I dislike them

Why, though? They're one of the better chapters with actual lore, and their dispute with the Inquisitors and the Imperium is fun. It would be amusing if the Space Wolves actually went traitor or simply went rogue as a result, at this point they've lost 80% of their worlds people to the Inquisition and so it would totally be in character for them to finally say fuck it, we're done.

I liked Cumrag, Trevantias and Space Battles. In general I love this trope of losing eq midgame.

If you bench constantly Kimmy, Kibs or Solomon, you can pick up their role essentially

WOTR did it better. You keep your good shit and just go into enemy territory to raise hell.

I didn't dislike any of the Rogue Trader companions, I think she is ok. Act 4 & 5 rushed writing are where the game suffers worst and I think they should have handled her much better post Act 3.

the part where you have to survive with just a couple of companions and the crappy weapons you can scavenge was the bets part of the game for me

It's just poor man's Alushinyrra

All I said is that there is a higher level DH splat if you wanted to try it. You will turn into an inquisitor in the game, so stakes will be higher as well.

When it comes to discussing companions in Owlcat games, never forget to refer to the objectively correct, factually indisputable Owlcat companion tier list to refer to which companions were written well and which were not.

Allushynyra had better quests, Commoragh had actual tension for a while

The Kroot is literally just Yrliet but ugly.
Both xenos.
Both snipers.
Both loners who are separated from their people.
Both lost their homes in some way.
Neither romance involves physical contact but focuses on spiritual bonds.

Sorry, I would rather just have the hot one instead of the ugly one.

I kinda like Idira
She's a fine companion

The Kroot will not be romanceable. Neither will the Eldar. The only romanceable characters they've shown so far are the Catachan, the medic, and the Ogryn.

She's great in combat and her VA is excellent. I like that her quest does not end with her finding some magical catch all solution to her problems.

People are right when they say it's hard to justify keeping her around from an RP perspective but I still feel like the hate for her is overblown. And we all know why.

A companion with an RNG element that can fuck you over in combat is always going to suffer popularity wise, many people cannot stand that kind of thing.

This list was made by a woman and is factually incorrect as a result. Disregarded.

It applies to Jimmi and a psyker RT too, albeit to a lesser extent. But the combat is so piss easy that Idira exploding into a demon just adds some spice to the game.

the Ogryn.

GOOSH GOOSH

People are right when they say it's hard to justify keeping her around from an RP perspective

Only if you're a dogmatard
Honestly,the simple fact that Theodora saw value in her is justification enough

Kroot

not romanceable

Then why did she get a statue. The main romance always gets the statue.

I swear people that say this never bother with all the little dialogue
Anyone that bothers to read everything available can easily discern that Idira is beyond fucked by Theodora's death and is in an extremely precarious moment that even a sanctioned psyker would struggle to cope with. She makes it clear, the voxmaster also makes it pretty obvious and even Heinrix is sympathetic to her, the godamn inquisitorial acolyte and torture specialist

But ever risking the Rogue Trader in combat makes sense, right?
Both are unrealistic to do but it is a video game so who fucking cares.

Women do not play CRPGs, and women do not post on this website. And no, men pretending to be women are not actually women.

I think the Iconoclast RT has even more of a reason to kill her due to her getting so many other innocent people killed, and her constant threat to everyone around her. About the only conviction path where it would make sense to keep Idira around from a RP perspective would be Heretic. Which makes sense, since she's the designated Heretic companion.

Marazhai is boring

b-b-but he's funny

He's boring

b-b-but the voice act-

He's boring
And annoying

Women do not play CRPGs, and women do not post on this website.

Hahaha
Sure mate. You keep believing that.

Heinrix is still soft

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I don't see anything in this post that contradicts what I said

He talks mad game but even without the romance it's obvious he'll never be anything but a good person. He was willing to go out of his way to rescue his mentor and was fucked up with what he had to do to her.

It means that you've got plenty of roleplay reasons as, anything but the most extreme dogmatic character, to keep her around and help her.

Women do not play CRPGs

You're wrong about that.
Even pre-BG3 women (fujos) played cRPGs at a pretty high rate compared to basically every other genre. The genre is story first, everything else second. None of them are hard. Its the perfect woman genre after farming sims.

Women do not play CRPGs

Untrue

and women do not post on this website

True, however, faggots (of which there are many here) are basically just women in terms of behavior

Sure, even as a dogmatic I keep her around and it's easy enough to justify in my RP. I just meant that I understand why others have a hard time doing it.

But I want TB Pathfinder.

I am right. You cannot disprove my statement. Women do not play CRPGs, only men that pretend they are women. And no, faggots are not women, they are just faggots.

Fantasycuck

lol, magic is gay. Pathfinder 2e is even more gay

women don’t play games were they can fuck handsome (or at least handsome to them) men

lol
lmao even

oh of course they had to shoehorn that in like they did with WOTR

Never look for fanart of this game

I like it when “asshole” companions in games are genuinely unpleasant to be around. So much of the time devs will make them just kinda whiny and smug and do nothing else actually in game. Having them bring genuine friction into the party always takes some boldness since some players are gonna complain about it. I liked Lae’zel in bg3 because of this. Her extreme fear about the party’s mindflayer situation feels tangible because of how it manifests in her ultra confrontational attitude and how dead seriously she takes everything.

Seelah honestly looks a lot better than whatever the fuck style they were going for with Epone.

WotR was better than Kingmaker, so probably

Bro have you seen the fandom for bg3 women from every demographic are flocking to the game and putting insane hours in it

Look at Yrliet

I'd rather not. I'm not even a big Xeno hater but she's half the reason I was tempted by so many dogmatic choices. Fucking retarded cunt

Anon, go look at archive of our own's tag for Rogue Trader
Heck look at the majority of fanart for this game
Look at the archive of the threads during release and the months following.
This game might have more femcels than any other Owlcat game. It's frankly disgusting.

Nothing in BG3 is treated seriously, there is no real urgency to fix your problems and your party happily munches on tadpoles to increase their power early in Act 1. BG3 was a much better game back in early access where it felt like the tadpole was an actual threat to your well being.

mfw still unreasonably mad you couldn't romance Argenta

I've never felt this cucked in the history of crpgs I played. I went in blind and turned down every other option thinking she'd become one

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If a RT's power comes from being able to operate outside of or in the fringes of imperial space, and their mandate is to secure said territory for the imperium, what happens once the imperium has a proper presence and they're no longer "outside" of imperial space?Do they just settle down into a regular noble dynasty?

Faggots and trannies making fanart and writing pornography does not mean women play CRPGs. Again, stop coping with your delusions, give me real proof or STFU with your insanity. Women do not play CRPGs.

that first dude in god tier

lmao, I played kingmaker once and completely missed him. Is he really that good as a companion?

Anything they conquer and make Imperium space is technically their 'domain'.

Will gw let them use them? They would make perfect sense in dark heresy but they don’t have tabletop models to quietly advertise

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You are extremely retarded. Crpgs are not your boys club, its a video game.

Does gw have the rights to give owlcat the rights to use them

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Any proof you're provided you'll just dismiss with

lol trannies

So what's the point
But hey. Look up that one fanartist that drew a metric ton of Regill with her tiefling OC and tell me there aren't women that play these games.

Ew, Kroot aren't even attractive in a furry way. Not even any real soft bits.

Your planets are infested with Chapos and even Aeldari

Drukhari steal your suns and raid your worlds

Gensetealers on your ship

Traitors in your capital workd

even admech start gunning for you for some reason

Then this happens

Act 2 Koronus is one of my favorite rollercoasters

You are not a woman and never will be.

So you cannot give me any actual proof and all you can find are trannies. As expected. I accept your concession.

Would kroot be able to looksmaxx due to how their biology works? Just take the precise meat supplements to change features

I don't need romance to enjoy a game, but if the only romance option is black and the devs expect me to mush faces with her then I'm just not going to play.

Gib Vandicare assassin gf you owlkek faggots i know you browse these threads and shill here

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expect me

Romance content for a character in any owlcat game is not even 1 hour worth out of 70+ in a playthrough.

So you cannot give me any actual proof

See? I gave you proof, you just dismiss it? Why are you even in these threads? Just go away you worthless faggot.

I love the 2 genders male and tranny

Don't count your chickens, it's always possible they'll be aggressive about pushing her because she's the only female option and is ugly as shit. People love trying to force those on you.

Assume it will follow the pattern of their last 3 game releases with multiple women to romance, never forced in any way and nowhere near that much content

or believe a ranom anon doomposting

Hmm

Domin...

You're either shitposting or mentally ill, you have biological women playing crpgs on yt and other platforms. RPGs bsides sims, vns and mmos are the genres women play

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You did not give me proof, you listed trannies and faggots creating fanart and pornography as "evidence", which is beyond laughable. Find me proof actual women are drawing or writing these things. But wait, you won't, and can't, because they are all being written and drawn by faggots and trannies. Once again, women do not play CRPGs. This is the reality, stop denying it and accept the truth.

with multiple women to romance

Now there's no multiple, only one.

See
Cope

Im tempted to post my voice...

show actual woman

no refutation just replies with cope

ok so you're a shitposting subhuman got ya

He's just going to dismiss you as a tranny so why bother
Also tits or gtfo etc etc

Yes, the Kroot

AI has cut down my interest in vidya romances. Messing with an AI is way more fun that clicking "next" while the narrator tells you how you(r character) responded to a character's advances.

Uncertain, audible chuckle

so 40k takes place in the milky way?

yes

That'll last for a while, but eventually you'll get bored of the AIs because you'll notice how much they love canned phrases, and always go through the same kind of story arcs or reply to things in the same way despite different defined personalities.

is bounty hunter still shit in RT?

Bounty hunter was always great and is also the only way to have close to an infinite loop.
AM was just easymode destruction (and still as, just not as potent as it was)

Anon read the post again.

always has been

It's good if you have another BH in the party to help spread prey. I used BH on my dual pistols run and it was very strong.

Yes

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This but callidus

Should note, DH is set in the Calixis sector which should be just underneath the Koronus expanse, last I remember my ttrpg lore.

Unbelievable levels of delusion and cope. You actually think posting this garbage proves anything? You might as well have put a VTuber and claimed "see, it's real!". Do you honestly think that picture proves an actual female is playing the game? Give me a break, you can easily fake interacting with the game and post some images of a female alongside it. Of course, only absolutely brain dead individuals such as yourself would fall for such obvious false flagging and fake portrayals, but it DOES explain why you are so dumb as to believe in the lies you do. Once again, women do not play CRPGs.

Gold is Imperial space? It's smaller than I expected.

Has this autist never played a bioware game in his life?

bait used to be believable

dual pistols run

Isn't that Jae's thing?

look up various female youtubers playing rpgs like bg3, rogue trader, dragon age etc.
literally first result "female youtuber rogue trader" youtube.com/watch?v=ZS8zbj1TuVY

She is an officer. Evem if you try to go all in on MT, she will never be that devastating. You give her the status effect pistols

She mostly uses xeno pistols while I preferred normal guns like the anti vehicle revolver. There wasn't much overlap.

She pretends to like games to earn a living with streaming, you mouth breathing retard

Where are the From the Ashes characters? What a poser.

why are Eve and Villanelle playing RT

Strong as shit when you recruit him

Ready to murder any troll you see, even children

Always has your back (pulls his bow on Regongar the moment betrayal was implied)

Kingdom management is pragmatic lawtism

You can also push him to dump his stupid friend trying to make him consumed with revenge and get a pure innkeeper woman that heals his heart.

It's ALL IMPERIAL SPACE! The colors are just to split the sectors up.

lmao this level of schizophrenia, I have female family members & friends that game

according to anon Marazhai is "surprisingly popular" thanks to men

Daeran

Marazhai

god-tier

nice try woman

Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader - Lex Imperialis

Planned Release Date: 24 Jun, 2025

This game plans to unlock in approximately 3 weeks

Is he really that good as a companion?

No. Do no believe his lies.

stop responding to obvious bait

I want to at least start my next run already but I don't know where in game the DLC will start. I assume it will be in act 1 like Kibbles.

And they all play Owlcat games I assume, they share with you the builds as well right?
What are they cooking? Did they take the vivi dip? Will they go legend for the extra bab?

men loathed Camellia and loved Cassia

women preferred the torture-goblin over Heinrix

they're fucking hopeless aren't they

This is why the Corsair guy will touch femcels only

Did you seriously just post straight up trannies as evidence? Man are you even trying?

Actually this is a great concept and it would work well in a lot of RPGs. I had an idea a while after Cyberpunk 2077 came out for an RPG or immersive sim where you play as some low-level grunt who does work for a corporation. Specifically like a member of Trauma Team or something. The problem is that the modern games industry has to always make the biggest game ever and can't just make a cheaper game with a smaller scope.

Dark Heresy characters are already "above average" if not "outright special" from character creation. There exists an entire expansion book (Ascension) which adds "prestige" level of play, that is supposed to be the next tier (a.k.a. "notable lore character"-tier), that many players of the TTRPG asked for. And *those* characters still only reach *starter* level of TTRPG (Chaos) Space Marine, by the latter half of their Ascension power level. So yeah, expecting a Dark Heresy CRPG (from Owlcat, no less) to ignore "high level play" is being hopelessly naive or uninformed, if not outright clueless.

All this list shows is that you're a massive faggot or a woman.

Women like both retard. Women don't do waifu wars with their husbands.

We all want xcom 40k anon but that's not what owlcat makes

you listed trannies and faggots creating fanart and pornography as "evidence"

Women in the Owlcat fanbase can actually draw, most of the troon fanart looks like shit
source: someone who is constantly looking for art of his waifu even in shitholes like tumblr

fighting for the honour of your waifu over the competition

vs

fucking all of the men like a whore

really shows where the priorities are

Gold is the imperial core near Earth. The Empire eis the hegemon of the galaxy. Assume all those squares not marked by another power are imperial owned sans some necron worlds. Most other factions are either nomadic, transdimensional or are insurgents within imperial space.

Same
Haven't played the game since release, I'm so pumped

Full VA

Extreme downgrade

Men love both and women love both.

Right, I forgot that women are whores

What are their names? Can't give them? Oh right, of course you can't, because they're not real, just figments of your twisted imagination.

Yeah get mad at real women for not being Cassia or Arue

Because in a woman's fantasy they're fucking both.

Men love both

lol

But BG3 was successful! Surely DH will sell just the same amount of copies.

It's all "Imperial Space" but people don't get how 40k works anyway. Imperium is spread very thin all over galaxy and made up out of isolated Islands of actual Imperial presence. Xeno Empires, not only Ork and Necron ones, but also an untold amounts of unnamed, minor xenos are everywhere. New planetary systems shows up, others are cut off, Imperial governments rebel while other planets and systems are conquered. Nobody knows how galaxy exactly, actually looks because it's impossible to map it out with FTL and communication system this shit, slow and unreliable. Imperium just claims everything and says that it's Imperium of Million worlds because it sounds cool and good enough.

corsair will fuck the femcel

corsair will be 100% straight

corsair will make the femcel the queen of his own fleet

Even in fiction, roasties have to share their bodies with multiple men instead of sticking to one

Yikes!

You are supposed to recruit nigger Dredd in act 1 already. So it's better to wait

Men love both

Speak for yourself, I literally only kept Camellia alive so I got get a sick rapier.

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Based I hope they bring back the human/elf kids.

just turn off voices

I don't see why you'd bother playing it now when they've already confirmed they're releasing two more DLC packages after this, and the game is not very replayable to begin with. Better to wait until all the content is out and do one run. A typical problem with Owlcat games, you have to wait several years to get the finished product. Say what you will about BG3, at least it was the full package on release, with only a few minor changes and alterations. Way more replayable even considering that, too.

Doesn't change the fact that men as a group love both.
It isn't a Jae situation where literally nobody likes her.

excuse you nigger I have Camellia executed every playthrough

What is a good build for heretic run, considering the companions I'll lose?

I like Jae

It isn't a Jae situation where literally nobody likes her.

I could go to reddit right now and find a post filled with upvotes about liking Jae

men as a group love both.

literally the least favourite female romance option but sure

Why

there are people who like NTR too

It would be virtually impossible for a real woman to have the body count of someone like Arue, they don't have thousands of years to ride the cock carousel like she did.

Mental illness tumbler user tier, the list.

Will raszard finally off himself?

Arue's newly virgin body only takes one cock, mine

Redditors aren't humans so that isn't relevant really.
Galfrey

I'm fairly certain 90% of players executed Camcam upon the "reveal", my dude. I certainly did.

That’s because space marine in the rpgs are retarded. They were never supposed to be that strong. They should be 50-100% better fighters than the average conscript. CSMs should only be exceptionally strong if they are also sorcerers of some sort.

t-they don't count because they browse the site I don't like

I accept your concession

Galfrey requires you to pick Angel.

She's not a virgin by any definition though, she's been with thousands or tens of thousands of men (and demons, and animals, and probably a lot more besides) and she remembers it all. If that's a "virgin" to you than any girl that gets Regeneration cast on her hymen would qualify.

Galfrey requires you to pick the most popular path almost everyone picks

Wow
You're wrong anyway because you can romance her with any non-evil, non-chaotic path

No? They don't count because they're lesser beings, a fact I'm aware of because they browse reddit. My personal preference has nothing to do with the fact they're subhumans.

Yeah I don’t like their current DLC policy. I like the 2 separate DLCs they did for WOTR but people seem to hate them.

Aeon works too

He is talking about men, not about kids, clearly the kiddos replying didn't get that

Factually wrong and also irrelevant. All romances have mythic paths they won't go for.

had to move on from virgin reconstruction surgery to regeneration

kek
New body, new virginity btw

Doesn't matter, due Angel-Ancension being best path of all.

Men like fixing evil women. Women don't care if the evil man stays a reprehensible degenerate as long as they're loyle to them alone.
Hence, Marazhai.

Succubus-chan WHY AREN'T YOU PURE

Ascend with my wife Galfrey and my mother Areelu
the family dinners must be awkward

Angel-Ancension

Imagine simping for the main antagonist. Also, Galfrey won't have your children

Nothing personal but i kill hate and kill every cannibal i come across.

No inquisitor sex no buy

So true, as a man, I love having my wife Camellia emasculating me as she fucks other men. There is nothing more masculine than that. And high IQ, too.

I say that Space Wolves are the worst chapter. They used to be somewhat decent in concept until turned into Wolf McWolves riding Icewolves and bearing Boltfangs and Frostaxes.

No. Women are sick whores hence Marazhai.

not a fan of split mini campaigns, I would prefer them adding more content to the main campaign.

Playing this shit taints you genetically

are you implying a female Marazhai would be unpopular with men?

Can't be worse than those Iron...whatever

muh children

Immortacel top 1 cope. Three reasons to have children, as tools, as amusement and as continuation of bloodline. I not cruel enough for first, have enough amusement without second, and don't gonna die at all. They are worthless.

But then we end up with this situation where we wait 4 years to replay the game

DLC is too close to release to start the game now, but I feel like playing it again RIGHT NOW. I had to kill Marazhai on my first character and haven't played with Void Shadows. I will have 3 more companions and far more content now on my second, more ruthless character. By the time I will feel like replaying it again those two more dlcs will be out and an additional content will make it more replayable again. It's more optimal to play between Story expansions for this reason, it maximizes amount of hours and fun that can be squeezed out of the game.

Never played BG3, most likely never will or it will take years before I do. DOS 1 and Dragon Commander writing was utterly insufferable, I can't stand memeshit and infantile writing like this. Everything I hear about BG3 sounds awful and I would need to beat BG1 and BG2 first anyway, otherwise my autism won't allow me to start third game anyway, no matter how loosely connected it is. And BG games don't look appealing to me anyway.

Yes, just like Camellia. Even more so, in fact, considering what he does in-game.

You have been posting about this fantasy of yours for a couple of days now.

that's fine, after 4 years I will have forgotten everything and can enjoy a second playthrough where I am constantly asking

is this bit new?

Immortalet, you mean? Anyway, based.

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That really makes no sense, a woman with the memory and experience of fucking that many people and things is not a virgin in any way shape or form. The only way you could argue this is if Desna mind wiped her as well as giving her a new body, which is not what happens.

It's a nigger fantasy Anon Babblecel, obsessed with genociding Trolls. Actually kinda based, but I wouldn't put him as high.

At least they have a unique theme and real lore, which is more than a lot of Space Marine chapters can say.

I raise you pic related

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Yes. Fem Marazhai would have been popular with a very small group of porn addicts and that's it.

Redpill me on Black Dragons. They have claws or some shit?

No gigachad angel or aeon would ever romance galfrey (or anyone, really)

Again, Ulfar is precisely a return to what made Wolves good.

SEE HOW THE WOLF SUCCEEDS?

BG1-2 have nothing to do with BG3 at all, it's not "loosely connected" it quite simply does not relate to the first two games whatsoever, the caricatures they put into BG3 to represent the old games are just that. BG1-2 is a complete and finished saga, Larians Forgotten Realms game being called BG3 was just for name recognition and marketing.

You sound like a broken record yourself.

not half as evil as Camellia or Marazhai

can fix her

Viconia never does anything edgy aside from murdering her rapists, which I don't think really qualifies. She certainly never kills or tortures people for fun or excitement the way that Camcam or Marazhai do.

AETT-VATER, PASS ME MY ESTROGEN PILLS

Viconia actually has a moral compass but it was crushed by living in Drow society.

I don´t understand how it´s low level compared to RT since Inquisitors are omens of destructions to most of the humans in the setting.

BG3 should honestly have avoided characters like Sarevok and ESPECIALLY Viconia
I know they were put in to justify the game being a sequel, but honestly Jaheira and Minsc were enough

Having Viconia in that... sorry state, deciding the canon outcome for her for millions of players is THAT, was a very poor decision.

lol
lmao even

Tabletop has you starting as the absolute bottom ladder of the retinue instead of starting out a Heinrix

So the average anon. Cam has alot of fags here.

He's right doe

Yeah Ulfar is actually a solid character, his banter with Heinrix is pretty fun too, nice to see someone with the status and balls to give an Inquisitor a hard time. Actually Ulfars banter in general is good.

Coming in DH for sure, screenshot this.

Yeah she is safe edgy like Morrigan and you can fix her

doubles down

Jaethal is also not as evil as them, she never does anything to you personally and you can also fix her, somewhat
she also isn't that popular

Minsc and Jaheira shouldn't have been in the game either, all the characters from BG2 got their definitive endings if you had them in your party at the end of ToB. That should not have been changed or touched. There really was no need for a sequel of any kind to the BG saga, it was a complete, story done and over with game series by the conclusion of ToB.

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two other competing RT dynasties in the Expanse

you barely interact with them

have almost nothing to do with the politics in your own domain

cool scene with your multiverse reflections last for like 5 minutes

this game is the definition of missed opportunities

Love this fanart. He's just so fucking jovial it's barely even a threat.

You are the expendable fodder that the Inquisitor uses to do his dirty work and send on suicide missions that he doesn't really care if you survive or not. Pic related is one of the classes in the TT, for example.

she also isn't that popular

because she isn't a romance option

Didn't stop Argenta

I am one of those so I will shill for my desires to be in the games thank you very much

Because she's a Sister

I feel like Argenta is a bad example. She's neither romancable nor very interesting and her quest line is barebones. Shed's popular because she's a SoB and that's it.

Aeriebros won by default

thanks Larian for fucking the competition

Physically a virgin

The entire game falls apart during Act 3, and by Act 4 it's bare bones trash. For fucks sake Abelard doesn't even introduce you anymore, they completely stopped making content for the game and just shoved it out the door, and as a result the only content rich and complete parts of the game are Act 1 and 2. You would think Owlcat would finally learn from failing to provide a decent end game in both Pathfinder games, but no, if anything RT is even worse than Wrath and Kingmaker in that regard, and the final acts are by far the worst parts of the game.

there was no way she'd ever be unpopular given she's a Sororitas unless they made her a nigger

Sometimes, a straightforward if simple voice that chants 'burn the heretics' is enough to leave a good impression and she bounces off the mroe colorful companions pretty well

Didn't stop Amiri

Fuck I loved having Abelard inform people how badly they fucked up

Wrong. She's popular because everyone loves the way she laughs.

Wasn't rushed release because of that Unity drama?

Male porn addict = woman. It is women who are degen whores as baseline and you lower yourself to their level.

Act 3 isn't bad, quite the contrary. The issue is that they didn't stick the landing in act 4. Act III was essentially the final culmination of the deldar involvement in the plot and how that plays into the larger true conspiracy, Calcazar's manipulations in the attempt to get at the C'tan shard
Act 4 needed to be at least 50% longer if not outright double the length. It needed two proper, dedicated sections to handling both Chorda and Winterscale with a good build up of exactly how the deldar ended up involved in the expanse and Calcazar's role in it and finally culminating in the reveal at the end of the act, as well as a proper closing of the heretical Final Dawn stuff.

Amiri, just like Camellia, has a niche following here and isn't really talked about anywhere else
She's more popular than Jaethal, I guess.

Because she's half-naked

Amiri

niche following

you can't be serious

Huh, and what does that make you, as you are here discussing kissing virtual dollies with me?

the most dangerous thing in the 40k universe is a radical inquisitor

I absolutely can be
Just because (you) like her doesn't mean she's some superstar

Argenta is genuinely popular
The internet is full of memes about her, she appears in rogue trader memes everywhere, and is the most popular companion in the fucking game
And you compare her to fucking Amiri?

She's also popular because she's the most broken of broken characters who can solo almost every encounter in a single round with minimal support, especially before Kibbles released and at least gave her some mild competition.

If you take Abelard with you into Commoragh he stops introducing you. I don't care if he's having visions of his dead ghost wife, he still has a job to do. He could at least have introduced me in the gladiatorial fights, and against Marzahais sister. But no, Owlcat stopped writing for the game at that point so it just doesn't exist past Act 2.

My choice of a doll was Cassia, and I merely tell truths.

yeah you have no idea what you're talking about, Amiri is one of the most popular KM characters and people have always begged for her to be a romance

implying

Cassia was and still is the most overpowered companion. Argenta only got to the levels she did because of officer support.

The most broken characters were always the Psykers and an officer mc, Argenta>AM was the EASIEST bullshit you could pull off

Nonsense

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Cassia falls off as you go to higher difficulties and she transitions heh back into just being an officer who can do help group up things for the carry to AoE down.

None of the base game psykers made a good pyromancer, and yes, you could make your MC into one but funnily enough Argentia is a better AM then even the MC with how her unique background works out. Officer support certainly helps, but she's capable of doing very stupid shit the moment she gets the Heavy bolter that scales RoF when combined with her starting heroic that gives you single shots equal to her RoF.

I can only prove my point with a SURVEY

Yes, they do. Are you retarded?
You just branch them into it easily. Idira Peril train is the single strongest thing in the game and is always ahead of calculations due to extra PR, Heinrix always has an extra Psyker discipline over you so they are better psykers tha nyou can be ecept for adjustments for homeworld/origins (which are less impactful).

On the contrary, Argenta is worse than MC gunner because hr iorigin and imperial world are NOT a good combo. Building momentum is cute, but bolter/flamer prof and one power armor in the end do not even match the benefits from just picking Fortress world/

You are a retard who did get carried by the easiest abusable build

What's Yrliet's bodycount?

600 other eldar

1 female human officer
she killed her because they did fuck and she felt disgusted about it only afterwards

RT stopped chasing trying after seeing her mental-scape OF account

she killed her because they did fuck

I wish it was canon. Image the seethe

She's not really that strong, though, an Officer can do for Ulfar or Yrliet or even Heinrix or Idira the same thing, the real thing that breaks RTs combat is Officer (and Momentum abilities in general).

On the one hand you're right. On the other hand it's amusing to see the characters who were popular enough in BG1 that Bioware killed off each of their partners to bring them to BG2 get carried forward yet again as party members due to popularity.

Zero, realistically speaking.

Are you? Building momentum is both key to enabling the loop, but much more importantly, she's able to buff herself in a much more effective manner with the unique talents to War Hymn then anything the MC gets access to.

Virgin succ body with 10000 years of horse cock experience

brb replaying azata route

High momentum

azata

Your dick is tiny, leave it to an angelbull

MC can get all the War Hymn stuff if he just takes Priest Origin, though.

She doesn't have her sex mask formed yet?

An extra free action consistently per turn+another Free reload>Argenta's imperial world AND war hymn.
Priest and commissar are the worst origins unless you specifically want make niche flamer builds shine a bit more.

Neither are actually faithful to the tabletop system so I don't care

In any case it really seems like someone at Owlcat is a real monstergirl enjoyer considering we're three for three with best girl being one in each game.

Cassia

monstergirl

you're already stretching it with Arue but Cassia is just a tall mutant

God tier stats (literally higher stats than any other companion and only beaten by the default fighter start for players), ANIMAL COMPANION (and a wolf at that, arguably the companion with the best utility thanks to free trip attacks), and very chill and lawful.
Yes he was that good. Until the goat sluts he was basically the MVP of the entire game when it came to killing shit.

I don't know. I am not sure if I like the companions. I mean, the black doctor, and the sub-human xenos have to go.

a tall mutant

She literally has gills on her neck

Ember is not a monster girl.

pale translucent skin

blood-red eyes

third eye

freakishly long clawed hands

GILLS

Fishwife is higher on the non-human scale than half of MGQ

she devours my cock like one

Men as a group do not like Camellia.

He's also a well written and well done character, a simple character executed in fine fashion. Ekun is a nice reminder that you don't have to make your character super complex or give them a complicated backstory to make players like them.

Why should I play rogue trader? What makes it fun?

We know, random Kenabres old man

giantess

claws

gills

three eyes

almost translucent skin

not a monstergirl

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Does a pretty great job of making you feel like a bigshot that's actually in charge of something.
Really faithful adaptation of 40k.
Great mix of random shit and encounters happening to you to keep it fresh.
Will appeal to you if you like choose your own adventure type stuff.

Navigating the world of wh40K as a rogue trader specifically is an interesting and relatively unique experience with a fitting atmosphere, the companions are mostly good and have interesting dynamics and interjection, and while comba tis on the easier/abusable side, finding ways to break it and finetuning your squad is still a bit of a positive *though DLC has trivialized it further).

You play it more for the story than the gameplay, in short. Also, good OST

Live out your conquistador fantasies where you arrive in town, slap your gilded dick on the table, and dare anyone to defy you because you have a letter from the Emperor himself saying

the bearer may do whatever the goddamn fuck he wants

Also you have literally so much money that your dosh can't be quantified in numerical terms so instead profit factor represents the strength of your trade empire and how easily you can acquire things.

That's not really being a monster. It's like the most attractive freak girl in highschool with all kinds of conditions.

Play it if you like the 40K universe, if you don't you will not enjoy the game, the combat is trivial and uninteresting, the story, plot and characters all fall through the basement by Act 3, and only 2 out of the 3 conviction paths actually have any content to play through. The only thing that carries this game is that it is a fun exploration of 40K, which is why if you don't like 40K you should avoid this game. Also don't buy and play this if you like Eldar in 40K, the Eldar in it are the worst written and badly done Eldar in GW history, which is quite impressive given the poor quality of that aspect of 40K in general.

That's not really being a monster

That's the point yes, monster girls have monster like qualities but they still look human

I don't like Kroots.

Monster girls are monsters that have humanlike qualities.

the Eldar in it are the worst written and badly done Eldar in GW history

when are elf-cocksucking spastics going to realise that Eldar are SUPPOSED to be retards and have always been retards

Now you're just arguing semantics, plenty of monstergirl works have monstegirls that dont differ all that much from regular human physiology. Cassie definitely differs from baseline more than many well-known examples like vampires.

Never because he doesn't actually like eldar he's just a shitposter
Note the image he posted. He's baiting.

Nah that's you being a furry mate

real monstergirl enjoyer

Bullshit
If they had one in charge, we have gotten either a subterran abhuman qt, or the Ogryn would be female and gone full on Uchi-Oni personality

Look guys, if you wanna play mudcore, maybe try the Warhammer Fantasy RPG instead. There you can literally play a fucking dirt farmer (alongside actual characters). Dark Heresy ain't it.

Eldar are smart and enlightened guise I swear

I distinctly remember thinking the Eldar were fucking stupid all the way back in DoW1 before I even knew about 40k when they wouldn't tell Gabriel about the Daemon Prince sealed away.

cRPGs will never do anything close to what you guys call "mudcore", since nobody cares to reroll chars like he is playing a rogue-like in those games.

Yrliet cucks you with an Eldar hunk

So does Kibellah

I miss Frogbvll

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No Kibellah just kills him. I know DEldar get off on shit like that, but still.

I do not
I am happy Veilguard made him kill himself at last

He moved to total war general for a while then disappeared a month ago

I hope we get a fem Eldar romance and she unironically cucks you

ONLY FUCKING SHITEATING ANIMALS USE INFANTRY INSTEAD OF SPAMMING ARCHERS, I BET YOU CAN'T EVEN ONESHOT A WAR HYDRA ON LEGENDARY DIFFICULTY YOU SNOYGEL TRASH

Thank fucking god I missed that, it must have been miserable.

Should have been a Blood Raven Librarian.

froggy was Legend of Total War the whole time

huh

Nah, he shitposted about MP being superior to "cuckpaign cheat mode that singlecels play" and general shitflinging
Also spammed MP e-celebs

Oh lord.

That isn't Froggy. That's just a faggot that likes to try and bait with that. Also says something like

MP is the highest form of play

And other such hilarious takes.
We post pictures of trees to scare them away. Very effective.

I don't know, neither game is finished yet.

Yes it was Froggy, he used the usual lingo "snap your fucking neck shit eating subhuman" and he posted about that shit on /crpgg/ as well whenever total war was brought up, plus he posted his veilguard and wotr playtime when fags that recognized him asked him about stuff

Negress

Kroot

I don't want any of these girls to cuck me. When are they going to reveal more?

new game announced while their current game isn't even finished yet

Classic Owlcat. They've become the dedicated CRPGslop studio.

Well shit. That's hilarious. But it wasn't just a few months. Those "MP is the highest form of play singlecels" shitposting has been going on since at least chorf DLC if not earlier.
Again just post some pictures of trees if any of them show up while you're in the thread. It works trust me.

I need him back for DH

I wonder which girl he's going to pick to hate on

Whichever one other autists here latch onto, he's an npc

No marine crpg because I can't play as a girl and they don't have working dicks so no romance

Was really fun confusing him and making him switch targets all the time during WotR.
2-3 sentences about anything that could be construed as imaginary unfaithfulness to MC seeded into his head, and you got two weeks worth of rants out of that clown

was really fun

It really fucking wasn't because I had to deal with the /wotrg/ threads being utterly fucking ruined as every thread was a non stop shitflinging at Arue, Wendy or Camcam
Every single fucking thread.

He exclusively focused on Arueshalae

Shes the popular one with the easiest fags to rile up