The webm that killed a Franchise
Doom The Dark Ages
they took the worst part of Eternal the Marauder and made a whole game around that enemies gimmicks.
Who thought this was fun?
the game designer who couldn't override this proposal
Is there a lore explanation for any of this?
Doomguy got ill after killing the icon of sin and this is a feverdream
Marauder at least still makes some sense and fighting him becomes intuitive and natural. This shit right here is weird as shit. It's completely artificial and arbitrary.
There's a reason parry based games like Sekiro or MGR let you parry everything except for a few special telegraphed attacks. In TDA they went with the inverse approach. Why? Fuck if I know.
What am I supposed to be angry about, Mr. NPC?
and fighting him becomes intuitive and natural.
lol no. Marauder was such an intrusion on the doom gameplay.
I played Doom 2016 earlier, hadn't played it since it came out
back then I thought it was great, but I'm 3 hours in right now and it's boring and repetitive. enter room, kill enemies, explore, repeat
doesn't help that all of the combat encounters feel the same, just racing around jungle gyms chasing enemies going in circles
didn't like Eternal at all so yeah, fuck nu-Doom
On the surface it's such a big dick idea.
Doomguy vs Cthulhu.
But not only did they half-ass the execution due to that fact that they basically kept them as secondary antagonists because they were afraid of being way too different and not have the iconic enemies from hell. Should have double down on Cthulhu shit and just not even bother with retarded Argent D'Nur shit. There are like 5 fucking people who care about this stuff and all of them are Youtubers.
It feels like the direction for the game changed like 3 times.
He is BUT it is a design meant to disrupt the flow of what player has been doing and provides a novel obstacle. It is fine, even maybe great for provide a unique challenge in some encounter. That's why he only show up in a few times throughout the whole game. The marauder. However, making a whole game around the mechanic is not really good.
didn't like Eternal
the consoleplebs always expose themselves
medieval Doom
but also there's tech bases and lasers and cyborg dragons and mechs
actual medieval Doom would be ludo-kino, but they were clearly too afraid to commit. honestly feels like Doom is a different IP at this point
speaking of, I sent this to a friend who dabbles in vidya lightly and he thought this was from Mass Effect. another thought it was Gears
Looks like Too Human.
helmet comes off
are you fucking kidding me
What happened to subtetly? I don't get how someone can look at this scale of intrusive ui and feedback icons and think it doesn't ruin the feeling of the power fantasy
This game is garbage, I say that as someone who beat it on UN and 2016/Eternal on UN. I never want to touch this game again.
The problem is that those 5 YouTubers will go nuts over it and go "LE DOOMSLAYA" and it will propogate across the Doom fanbase.
This killed it instead
Anyone who pretends those movement puzzles are bad deserves the rope. Much preferable to 2min of doing some faggot puzzle moving switches all the other FPS including TDA have gravitated towards.
And no, looking for keys is not better. It's even worse.
It's not a problem. I guarantee you, no one understands what the nu-Doom lore is about. And anyone who watches it forgets the moment they click off.
Nothing happened in the Dark Ages anyway. I thought it was going to be about how Sentinels get their shit kicked in, but no. The very apt comparison is an episode of He-Man, with the antagonist of the week.
movement puzzles
...Do you mean platforming?
honestly feels like Doom is a different IP at this point
It's just shitty Quake now. At least Doom 2016 felt like an actual Doom game. All the Makyr stuff was a mistake
console players were literally unable to do this and they are the reason why dark ages was neutered so badly
ohhh, if i jump to this platform it unlocks the next platform
do you have a problem with movement puzzles libtard?
Makes Doom 2016
Puts out not one but two dogshit sequels
What was their problem
If you call that a puzzle I'm not sure how many brain cells you have remaining, or if any aspect of your existence is worth salvaging. Just neck yourself bud
he probably had a retard wrangler for 2016
giving hugo full control for dark ages was a mistake
i'm just gonna say it these are one of the best ways to break up combat i've ever seen in an fps. the controls are tight, they're fast, they're satisfying to do, they're not that hard. I'll take a little movement puzzle over "lmao push the switch! push the box!" time wasting horseshit 10 times out of 10 but having SOMETHING to break up the action can be nice
watching that video showing how to do the first dash refill "puzzle" in level 2 and the comments were just filled with console players and 40 year olds saying the platforming ruined the game for them was insane to me. you press like two buttons man
Have any of you actually played the game? The challenge is that there's like 10 of these guys shooting projectiles at you while another 5 demons are trying to bumrush your ass. There's also 50 canon fodder demons running around. Your heal pool is lower than Eternal to balance out the shield.
doom 2016 is secretly good
no, no, no. you didn't get the memo. this week it's "doom 3 is secretly good" week.
watching that video showing how to do the first dash refill "puzzle" in level 2 and the comments were just filled with console players and 40 year olds saying the platforming ruined the game for them was insane to me. you press like two buttons man
sometimes people can understand and appreciate a good change
some people just don't like it because they're retarded
simple as
irrelevant since you can modify the gameplay difficulty
It does, but Doomguy isn't even in that webm.
That makes it worse though? People will only remember a streamers stupid reaction and it will only propagate.
irrelevant since you can modify the gameplay difficulty
Then just don't do that retard.
I bet it two days ago, got like 85% of the achievements. The story was boring as fuck and combat felt really easy, only like 2-3 weapons felt good to use.
Eternal was better. I'd say Dark Ages is like a 6/10 at best.
ends up making the game less aggressive in the end funnily enough
game genuinely ends up being less "push forward" despite you having the shield bash and tons of killing power because you have less heal potential and so it's important to not take hits and the shit you're most often going to get hit by if you just dive in is some random shitter soldier that's swooced behind you. you end up being incentivized to hug walls because it's safer that way.
This filtered thousands plus majority of Anon Babbledditors
Why is Doomguy fighting a defiler from warhammer 40k?
retard lmao, even without modifying the game is still piss easy
le slayer is not le doomguy
i get the cope but please stop
99% of the ppl spamming the same comment never played the vid and watched streamers instead. the game is the best AAA fps released since eternal and anyone thinking its below 8/10 is just ragebaiting.
Is it weird that I hate the game only because I imagine some basedboy baasedlords cooming over it? The game can be amazing or whatever, but I have no interest in anything that makes me think of someone else doing something cringe over it.
play level
think "huh, that was cool" to an action or animation
mind immediately jumps to a vision of a retarded zoomer gaping his mouth hole at the same thing and yelling an equally-retarded statement like "GAZOIINKS, DID I JUST DO THAT???" and other streambait phrases
stop being interested in the game and quit within 15-30min
I can't believe this needs to be said, but parrying doesn't need to be in every game
Vagary also never stands still like that footage shows. None of them stand still. Except for Arachnotron but you kinda wish they moved.
You think I'm advocating for this shit lore being good? No. I'm only saying it will not leave an impression on anyone who played. Nothing fucking happened. Like 3 chic moments undercut by just how neutered the overall narrative is.
I just think the "Doomslayer" is a stupid name. I genuinely didn't see him until I looked for him again.
His helmet is still on.
I thought parrying would be cool for my action game, but at this rate, it'll be exclusive to SOME enemies and bosses.
I stopped thinking that's Doom despite knowing it a few seconds in
stand n' fight kingdom, steve
Wow, this is heckin epic and really captures the classic doom we all love!
oh i saw that marcus fenix looking guy in the beginning and thought it was the slayer
You think I'm advocating for this shit lore being good?
No, I'm saying it doesn't matter that it's shit. People will remember the dumb YouTuber saying random shit instead.
I think they are good to break up the action and subtly let you practice the movement technique in the game.
If you dickheads actually played the game you'd know you can tune this game to make it hard as hell, and make those balls faster and even change the color of them.
But if all you cunts wanna do is shit on games you don't play then i guess its fair that you dont get to play fun games anyways.
reddit copium feed is getting cut off seems like
that's hilarious anon
Been watching Zanny's playthrough of it
Funny to see him go from glazing the game at the start to understanding the criticism to outright saying large portions of the game are ass all in the span of two videos lmao
you can tune this game
that's the designer's responsibility
you have to go out of your way to make the game not look like this
That isn't good game design if you ask me.
Agreed. A nice break to let you play around with the movement mechanics. Listening to hugo talk about the design philosophy of eternal and dark ages really highlights how exactly they nailed what they're going for and how they know exactly what they're doing. Like everything you feel during the game hell mention as something they were trying to do.
at first i thought the super mario fire obstacles were just a shitpost. then i learned how bad things really are
Which Mario level is this?
They give you the tools to make the game exactly as hard as you want and you pout and refuse to use them. Thats on you for being a bitch. It was kinda easy for me until i tuned it just the way i like and now i cant get enough. Ive read so many different ways on how people have tuned it for them. Its good.
just make your own fun
i will. this does not involve giving id 60 bucks.
retarded geriatrics that cried over this are the reason TDA has 5 min flying sections and 5 min of puzzles per 20min of gameplay
fuck you, piece of shit faggots
most of the stuff i don't like about it is fundamental stuff and turning on turbo mode isn't gonna fix that
release doom
praised for challenge
release eternal
criticized for challenge
release dark ages
now you can make it more or less challenging
anon if you think this is an improvement you're wrong
draqu ragequit this today
Dark ages indeed
Since people complained about the challenge they just gave them all the tools to make it as hard or as easy as they want. And they still complain. Gamers are retarded
lore explanation
faggot
id is retarded for listening to complaints about eternal
do you think fromsoftware listened to people crying about sekiro being too hard? of course not, elden ring is still difficult even if it's the easiest game they've made.
REAL NIGGA HOURS
Doom didn't needed any sequel after 2. What's next after Hell on Earth plot wise? The concept was done. ID knew this and tried to avoid Doom for some time.
We shouldn't even be playing Doom sequels right now. ID needed new IPs for new innovative concepts or revisit Quake on a new setting or a modern Hexen / fantasy game. We're all victims including the devs of chasing trends and sticking with their most popular IP.
its a broken piece of shit, i've done melee attacks that do no damage
It might as well be called Doom: What hit me?
What's next after Hell on Earth plot wise?
who cares? give me more shit to shoot
MIllions of dollars in texturing, concept and next gen texture tech to make this.
don't you enjoy Super Doom Bros. ?
Doom didn't needed any sequel after 2. What's next after Hell on Earth plot wise?
That's simple, angels get involved and you have to shoot them alongside demons.
see fuck you, faggot
I swear it's incomprehensible how someone thought this was a good idea
I'm not even against gameplay like that. But it's literally not DOOM.
Fuck even the other anon said, "my friends thought it was gears of wars or mass effect" and they are completely right. fuck even those tanks look like Halo
This straight up a disaster on the level of AssCreed Revelations or Black Flag.
muh it's not doom argument
og doom is about looking for keys in a boring confusing maze instead of combat. retards that larp it's peak gaming while crying at a 5sec puzzle section per 5min of combat need the rope.
third one was what finished NU-DOOM
whoever thought of making doom into rhythm game needs to be hanged
worse, redditors
hugo martin frequents reddit
And no, looking for keys is not better. It's even worse.
I like keycard hunting. Make the next one go back to that.
redditors hated the movement puzzles
he was just on the bethesda stream praising reddit on how they totally "got" that the doom slayer gets his power from his hatred and all sorts of other cringe shit
he frequents reddit
what did you expect him to say, "fuck those niggers I love jerking it to loli threads on Anon Babble?"
who said anyhting about og doom, this isn't even like nudoom that was a fun game while still definitely doom
this one is just childish. it's impossible to appreciate the aesthetic and the textures while this literal STATIC BALL AND CHAIN GLOWING PROJECTILE comes at you at slow speeds, or this OBVIOUS PLATFORMING SECTION THAT HAS VISIBLY NONSENSICAL ARCADE ELEMENTS TO REMIND YOU HOW TO USE YOUR GIMMICKS completely breaking your immesion
I'd appreciate that in an indie not in an AAA game where the entire point of the experience is watching the corpo flex how good their game looks.
Half-Life 2 was a smash hit because it showed first person games benefit from environmental design synergizing with gameplay elements. Apparently nudoom has forgotten that lesson.
so does 99% of this website. pretending leddit is bad to fit in hasn't been a thing since at least 2016.
i dont give a shit, im just saying the guy is a big fan of reddit and doesnt mention youtube at all
so does 99% of this website.
not I, the outage showed me just how trash things are over there
because the alternative to making movement puzzles is making boring ass gameplay where you run around pulling levers and looting keycards
You did that in DOOM 2016?
pretty sure you did not
2016 had amazing level design, something eternal lacked in some levels (others were great) and dark ages just lacks completely.
Turning the difficulty sliders up to make everything as fast as possible makes the game way more fun
Story shit aside, Eternal was peak, and it's because of all the redditors that got filtered by it that we now have this shit that appeals to no one.
Eternal was trash, of course nobody wanted it's sequel
I-I called you aa ahhh aaa retard, so n-now you have to a-agree with me
Jump into a badly textured lava pit, you faggot.
nier automata did it better
The series is doomed
I've played all the doom games and a dozen WADs, and I like eternal. WHAT NOW
Why is everything in TDA just green Simon Says attacks
It was already ridiculous with the Marauder's green eyes in Eternal, now it's like every enemy turned into a walking traffic light
hugo martin is at it id doing the pretzel and just huffing his own farts
Anon Babble has now astroturfed themselves into a full circle and pretend Doom 3 is anything but slop with great lighting (for the time)
An FPS with a bad shotgun is a bad game.
This, Doom 3 was gay shit a mere tech demo that get btfo by HL2 in the same fucking year, it's not good.
2016 was already letting Quake leak in with the arena design, rail gun, and quad damage. Then Eternal upped it even more replacing the pistol with the shotgun as the starter weapon, and Dark Ages again with nail guns and Lovecraft monsters. If they're going to keep letting Quake leak in they might as well bite the bullet and merge the franchises.
why add in lovecraft just for the one nigga
ahh yes rip and tear heavy butt rock
the Marauder
HE FILTERED MILLIONS
The marauder was a fun enemy and becomes a regular part of the cast just like seeing a Baron of Hell or an Archvile in Doom II. Sure it spices things a bit but they start to appear in duos because they stopped being anything special on their own without severe buffs and arenas made for them. I liked them.
The blood makyrs and the cursed prowlers are bigger assholes but no one on Anon Babble actually plays games...
The problem with Dark Ages is that they ripping off Ultrakill but the game is too easy and this shit is just jarring to look at.
The UI is garbage, there is an obnoxious amount of visual indicators and ultimately it looks like noise and it is worse with RTX, I hope you like the color purple. It is just so gay.
The level designers, if you can call them that, are all amateurs.
It was fine. The story is stupid and was never meant to be expanded beyond Doom 2016, but here we are. The gameplay got progressively worse in each nuDoom, but it's fine. Not great, not terrible. Just fine.