You have zero clue how insanely profound it was when this game came out...

you have zero clue how insanely profound it was when this game came out. it felt like it was coming at us from the future or something.
it was the kind of game that people had been asking for (an ARPG with actual real-time combat) for years at that point. since the dawn of 3D it was "what if muh oot zedla but not for 5yos?"

and then they fucking just did it. and so much better than literally anyone else (but themselves) was able to even do for years and years afterwards

now are there some wacky, arguably even BAD, stupid ideas mixed in there? oh yeah, definitely. they were throwing everything and everyone at the wall.
and many times it was just broken. i remember spending 5 straight hrs grinding 4-2 for a (singular) pure sharpstone. just so i could then use the dupe glitch. all because some overworked nip salaryman accidentallyed 0.001% drop rate instead of 1% drop. which somehow never got patched lol

didnt matter tho. it was 2009 and everyone else was trying to be oblivion, GTA, or cowadoody
then you had demons souls showing up, making the entire industry stop and turn its head, if only for a moment, to ask, "wtf is that?"
and clearly they didnt get an answer, as only a few years later dark souls did the same thing again, but even louder

now you wanna talk about music?
adjudicator is literally one of the first bosses you fight, and the actual boss is a little baby canary on its head. if i had to hazard a guess, it was supposed to try to spook you out looking at the big scary giant fatman upon entering the room. doesnt really land since the music is too campy. tho maybe that was the point, since the boss is actually a fucking canary.
imo the far more egregious change to music is latria having music AT ALL in the remake. what brainlet thought THAT was a good idea?

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We get it, you were young and impressionable

aka a boomer faggot

you're old and will be dead before I am considered old

I still am
t. 23 year old aoomer

Tired of rollslop taking up catalog space. It was tiresome when people were jizzing themselves over dark souls and it's tiresome now.

get used to it. it's 16 years and it's a videogame and you're on Anon Babble

They did it again with BB.

I hated it on launch, I only enjoyed it once I finished Dark Souls and went back to it

BOOMER THREAD

kokia ending song after a tough battle

dark souls could never

Effort posting on this shithole is always received with kikebots, poojets and browns. Sorry OP. But you're kinda disrupting shill operations and clair obscure needs another thread.

I haven't played BB since the old hunters dropped, but I just bought a copy for my nephew and we've been having a blast.

You were underaged and a total normalfag when it came out
The main thing it did was being an actual game that had the design philosophy games had when gaming was still good while every other game was trying to be more casualized and normalfag friendly. DeS didn't actually do anything new or groundbreaking, it's the same shit as the retards now praising mediocre stuff as masterpieces because everything else is shit, just to a lesser extreme because DeS is definitely better than mediocre and the mainstream games were less shit back then, but still shit

DeS didn't actually do anything new or groundbreaking

I don't recall too many games with the message system, blood stains, or forced PvP that worked like DeS (the only similar game I can think of was D2X, but you could menu quit if someone went hostile and of cou8rse worold PvP, which was a lot different).

more games need to implement weird ideas without caring too much of "inconveniencing" the player, with games like demon's souls you really don't know what to expect from it and that's fun.

They fucked up the music in the remake, otherwise it would've been a 10/10. People shit on it because they don't know there's a filter in game to make it look more like the original.

play more multi-player game
theres nothing new in soulsshit
it seemed new to you because you only play single player game holy lonely retard vaggot

You're greatly exaggerating the impact it had at its time of release on PS3, in both sales and influence to other developers.

demon souls was not rollslop

I think dark souls 1 had a bigger impact. Demon souls so was so damn niche only gamer circles knew about it, dark souls 1 actually reached he masses. Making one big interconnected level instead of the weird 1-x system was the biggest positive change.
I got demon souls at released but got filtered hard by 1-4 skeletons and invasions. Only beat it after dark souls 1. Sadly no fromsoft game since then really repeated ds1 designs or "mystery", just fast travel and stage like levels

you seem particularly upset, feeling insecure?

i remember hearing about DeS the first time when gamespot made it their game of the year and damn was there controversy

making the entire industry stop and turn its head

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DeS was panned at launch for being gorgeous, but running and playing like garbage. glad I saw through the (((journalist))) shilling. only xbots were crying because Japan Studio was a co-dev, so it stayed a Sony exclusive.

"wtf is that?"

goyslop by any other name is just as shite

Demon Souls paved the way for the grassroots success of Dark Souls.

the zeitgeist of the time was "The West is the future and Japanese games are over". certain cliques tried to solidify the standards of what games 'should' be around the late 00's and games like Bioshock, Mass Effect were held up as "objectively good game design"

it;'s worth now remembering that the Good Game Doctrine™ discourse is an argument that's been had before and the conclusion around 2010 was that the West is the future and Japanese games were over because they weren't doing motherfuggin open world and online games well enough. anything that was weird or experimental or pushing the medium forward like no more heroes, folklore, mgs4, was unknown, hated on, or like for meme reasons.

games were "solved" and "good game design" looked like Bioshock, Gears of War, Uncharted 2. "art games" looked like Journey and Braid (lol) and all the other "indie story book" games where some faggot talks to you about his childhood while you do some menial platforming or collection task and the future according to those who went to game school and knew all the rules is that you just didn't DO certain things and then Dark Souls came along and all of those people lost hard forever.

people think of gamergate as the first big gamer culture pushback but I think a minor preceding incident is how a wannabe clique of cultural leaders tried to solidify the standards of what games were meant to be around the late 00's and it culminated in the Mass Effect 3 launch

it really was a "rejected at the ballot box" moment when Dark Souls blew up virally and "Best Practice" video games slowly lost their relevancy. If it weren't for that stifling environment and the seed of Demon Souls I don't think a mid-budget Japanese game would have become an overnight star like it did

viral phenomenon Dark Souls flipped everything on its head

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I played dark souls and its just demon souls clone

Demon's Souls was actually good though

Sure there are many souls clones, but good action combat games had far more influence from DMC or Team Ninja games. At a technical gameplay level, these are also far more complicated to make because of all the different attacks and movesets.

You can tell the age of the average poster based on whether or not they hate all rollslop or if they correctly determine that rollslop before Bloodborne and rollslop after Bloodborne are two different franchises

it's just Ico but you fight more

idk
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there would be no DMC5 without Dark Souls. Dark Souls release was like a whirlpool that slowly devoured everything that western devs considered sacred. without Dark Souls we DmC:Devil may DmC and low effort shit like Dead Rising 5: Made by even more Canadians would have been the future of Capcom games. From Software showed that Japanese gmaes with a japanese spirit and character could still be successful.

In that infamous "japanese games suck" Phil Fish video Blow is also on the panel of commentors who lists Dark Souls as an exception, but you can tell that he doesn't really like anything about DS in the video above and that any praise from that cohort is a twist of the wrist for them, like defeated soldiers in a holding fort.

I still feel a profound sense of distress over Sony Computer Entertainment of America's decision not to publish Demon's Souls. this game not only laid the groundwork for an entirely new style of game, but it was also a testament to the innovative vision of FromSoftware.

I still have no idea what the fuck most dark souls fans are talking about. Psychotics talking about NG+7 weapon balance and covenant dynamics which don't even work

please respond

japanese games indeed suck
there's nothing "japanese gamey" in soulsgame
soulsgame are japanese game with western knowledge
and you compare it wrong western game like movie game uncharted where you should compare soulshit to multiplayer game like cod
they both the same vibe where you die fast

and yet Dark Souls was made by Japan

Retard

made by westaboo Japanese men

yes

also botw existed because jap dude like skyrim
miyazaki love tarkov
jap kids teens love apex
these japs dont like "japanese game" you talking about

No

I was an Xbox faggit when this came out, I remember the threads. I was so jealous. You guys would talk about the weapons and shit, about holding your shield up when turning the corner into new areas, I was so mad.

Didn't have the money for a PS3 either, I was working part-time minimum wage.

I wish it came out same time in the west so it would have got like 50-75 metacritic score instead of it being insanely hyped up and the reviewers prepared and rated it like 90

It's good to see you're like 20.
The game was antihype on release. Literally no advertising, Snoy refused to publish it, no EU release at first, etc. Word of mouth is what made the game popular and nobody in 2009 was looking up From Software.

DeS didn't actually do anything new or groundbreaking,

mental illness

Underage

the mainstream games were less shit back then

lol

look up a list of top new games from back then and see if anyone cares about them

This might be one of the most pathetic zoomer posts of all time.

I imported the game because people were saying it was the first actually fun game that gen, and they were right. It was a game that would've been decidedly average a generation prior, but against brown and bloom shooters it was amazing because it passed the great barrier of being "just about playable". Still fucking hilarious that Sony were so out of touch back then that they only released it in Asia to die because they thought it was a flop. It's unreal that 15 years on we're still getting the same copy-paste games out of From, and nobody else is even trying to compete in the same space of "what if the game didn't reward you for dying?".

When this game came out nothing changed. It wasn't until Dark Souls that the general gaming public gave a shit.

refer toyou know the post is good when people are calling it both zoomer and boomer