Archmage of the Mages Guild

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Archmage of the Mages Guild

decide necromancy is "too dangerous"

ban half the useful magic because morality or some shit

enrages half the guild, causes half the guild to join Mannimarco (literal King of Worms, >ancient lich, 10,000 year old boogeyman)

instead of managing internal problems like an actual leader, just keeps handing out promotions to random adventurers who have like 5 minutes of experience

he locks himself in a room and tells you to fix the situation

is hannibal traven the most retarded character in TES?

Realistic boomer behaviour

He is like a medieval fantasy HR manager. Maybe this guy represents Todd?

whats news of your task? Your face looks grim.

He's a zombie

What? and there was nothing you could do for him?

Was there some event that caused him to do this, or did he wake up one morning and randomly go "You know what, necromancy is bad. I am going to ban it"?

Before the Revenant Moon (the Mannimarco that won Daggerfall) necromancers were dodgy corpse defiling fuckwits. After the Revenant Moon they gained the ability to trap Black Souls (sentient people) and use them for magic. Of course you'd ban Necromancy, you could never trust anyone to not start dabbling in ritual sacrifice and collecting the souls of innocents.

His wife left him for a corpse

Of course you'd ban Necromancy

Instead of controlling that shit and having an eye on its practice you just make it go all cloak and dagger by banning it, creating the forbidden fruit everyone wants to have a piece of, with no oversight whatsover.

The archmage banned levitation? That's fine, being able to fly sucked anyway

W-wait, he's banning me from raising DEAD RELATIVES and then having SEX with their REANIMATED ENSLAVED CORPSES? I'M GOING INSANE I NEED TO JOIN A DEATH CULT AND DESTORY THE WORLD LONG LIVE IN THE KING OF WORMS

Understandable.

give people primers into the basics of necromancy

"uhm but how do we get more powerful at it?"

"by using the souls of people trapped in special gems you can only create in certain places. but we're not going to teach you that."

now you're directly responsible for giving the 101 to all the wannabe necromancers who run off to find the secret shrine and start turning people into magicka

Damned if you do and damned if you don't but if you had proper oversight of your students you'd notice which ones keep making excuses to go be with their corpsefucker covens.

I mean, this is the mages guild we're talking about.

Before the Revenant Moon (the Mannimarco that won Daggerfall) necromancers were dodgy corpse defiling fuckwits

Hey, thats not true. Thanks to ESO's retarded lore, there were necromancy using adventurers running around being good boys, bitchslapping monsters and shit.

Start licensing necros, give the full course with black soulstones and trapping souls of condemned criminals, give benefits and privileges, make them an elite, so that the necromancers themselves would have an incentive to put down any potential renegades

No one said necromancy didn't exist before Daggerfall, only that the Mannimarcos ascension allowed the trapping of souls of sentient creatures

I think it's tradition at this point that all the arch mages in TES are incompetent idiots who just make the situation the guild is in worse

trapping souls of condemned criminals

The average people of Cyrodil would object to anyone being willingly offered to necromancers as spell fodder and the judicial system itself would then become ripe for bribery, corruption and manipulation for people who know the spells that charm and beguile people, ie mages.

There's no world where letting necromancers exist is better than training all mages to just use Conjuration to summon undead.

Maybe they should have banned killing other people instead of necromancy

Reminder that Skyrim retconned Black Soul gems into having always existed

retconned

Dragonbreached

quick pathetic fight

has the same voice as the adoring fucking fan

10000 years of super wizard rivalry ended just like that

Bigger question is wtf happened to this retard between Daggerfall and Oblivion? He used to be cool

Necromancy is not it's own school, but Conjuration is already super suspect - what with daedra summoning and all... but so is every other discipline, if you have people that can shoot fire and lightning from their hands at will, they are dangerous to everyone around them by default, blood sacrifices or no

That's not real Mannimarco, just as the one in Daggerfall is not the same as the one in ESO

Didn't the remaster change HE voice actor?

literally me

he would have realised that necromancy now belongs to the dark age of dribbly candles and the sort of un-necessary paraphernalia that gives wizarding such a bad name. No, we are now at the dawn of a bright new age of technomancy, and in the modern world of wizardry, it is now the province of the Department of Post-Mortem Communications to perform rites that have nothing at all to do with the outmoded and dangerous practice of necromancy, oh no. Ignore what it says on the door, will you, we just haven't got round to having it repainted yet.

The mages guild is always utterly feckless and incompetent in every game. I think it's intentional. There's a reason once you get the arcane academy the first thing you hear from your new handler is "hey I'm sorry by now you've probably seen a lot of incredibly embarrassing shit, I hope you still believe the work we do here is worth it."

Leaves the Mage's Guild in the hands of its newest member, doesn't tell them anything about their new duties, doesn't tell his subordinates, doesn't tell the council, and then without warning kills himself

In Morrowwind, the guild a mixed bag. You at least have some competent member,s and the Tevanni are also equally mad it not madde,r in that game

I always liked the Mage guild in Oblivion. The Fighters guild were a lot more like unionized mercs that took on contracts and requests. While the mage guild was full of NEET equivalents spending all their time fucking around and bullying eachother, offloading all their work onto newfags who want recommendations, while seemingly not really doing much to benefit anyone.

There are many real life things what you said could be applied to and they do it anyway, why would a fantasy world be any different

NNNOOO YOU CAN'T HAVE INCEST NECRO SEX BECAUSE... YOU JUST CAN'T OKAY?

t. Hannibal Gayven

I must be missing something because I've been to three different towns and the fighters guild isn't doing a damn thing

See

He knows that Restoration is the chad school of magic that everyone should learn

casts absorb Strength & Endurance

beats the fighters up with their own power

Life and times of the eternal boomer.

I've not always been happy with the standards of conduct in the Mages Guild, but Hannibal Traven's reforms are quite encouraging.

I think it added a new voice for variety

you forgot

kills himself to spare you from a paralyze spell he knew mannimarco was going to cast instead of just coming with to cast a cure paralysis on you. or giving you a cure paralysis potion.

it turns out it didn't work anyway because you still get paralyzed and mannimarco unfreezes you anyway so he can epic 1v1 you

I love how he just goes "peace out". He does not even explain what he's doing. A truly based retard.

Necromancy is banned in Cyrodil

can summon skeletons and zombies in the middle of the Imperial capital and nobody gives a fuck

everyone knows they're not real

Banned in the mages guild. Still Legal. The real legal loopholes are frenzy and command.

Why would people who watch others die for their amusement in the gladiator pits give a shit if some criminal's soul is trapped in a soul gem?

Conjuration isn't necromancy, it just pulls monsters from Oblivion into Nirn.

trapping souls of condemned criminals,

Don't trapped souls go to the Soul cairn after being expended?
It's kind of fucked to deny people an afterlife for stealing bread

I like the fact that they gave him spells but he doesn't have enough magicka to cast any of them so he just attacks you with a dagger

Realisitic sounding management character

As shit as the College of Winterhold was in Skyrim, I felt more accomplished at becoming Arch Mage. The benefits were better too. You don't even get any enchanted gear from it in Oblivion, and the Arch Mage quarters are tiny.

What kind of monsters are they?

literally everything is better in skyrim than oblivion.

b-but spellcrafting!

if it was actually balanced and you couldnt cheese the game with +100 to your stat(s) of choice or +100% weakness to <Magic Type>, literally nobody would care or miss it. also what kind of weird fag would want to play a robed wizard in a viking game?

if it was actually balanced and you couldnt cheese the game with +100 to your stat(s) of choice or +100% weakness to <Magic Type>, literally nobody would care or miss it.

so like skyrim lmao

who gives a shit about balance in a single player game

Skellingtons and zombies who were made by evil godlike beings and not necromancers.

Because Blackwood Company is undercutting their jobs with dirty practices, did you even pay attention?

Ok but what category of monsters are skeletons and zombies?

and the Tevanni are also equally mad it not madder in that game

The Telvanni are probably more impressive in their command of the arcane, but without a doubt less sane

Why would you be condemned for stealing bread. For that you pay your 2 septim fine or spend a night in jail. Condemned means to be put to death. They will be killed anyway why not let the necros have some fun? Adds another deterrent, you do something heinous and your soul gets to enchant a sword.

Not only did it backfire, in the future as seen in Skyrim nobody gives a shit about necromancy anymore.

This dude single-handedly caused the death of so many competent mages and a civil war just because of muh necromancy bogeyman.

What does that have to do with anything? Necromancy is the act of raising the dead. Taking a skeleton from one place and teleporting it to you and having it serve you is the combination of mysticism and illusion formally known as conjugation.

If I do bad stuff during life and when I die my soul gets sent to a plane of Oblivion, and then you resurrect my physical body on earth as a zombie servant, that's bad.
If a daedric prince of oblivion decides that my soul-consciousness within Oblivion will be trapped inside of the illusion of a decaying corpse chained to a burning rock for 1,000,000 years, and then you conjure a binding spell that binds my spirit onto Mundus for 20 seconds which manifests as the rotting corpse that "I" exist as on Oblivion, that's okay.

Necromancer girls are the cutest.

Anon you are aware that the Drauger in Skyrim have been in their barrows for awhile right?

How do necromancer girls even get off on corpses? Zombies can't get boners...

crying about spellcrafting when skyrim's restoration/alchemy loop exists

rigor mortis

Zombies can't get boners...

They put a cock ring on their victim

and by the time of skyrim they're pretty much gone

Any mods that add non-armored gloves?

freshly dead men do get boners

who gives a shit about balance in a single player game

i dont and i didnt suggest that i did. i care about people ennobling themselves by pretending they were using the system in unique and innovative ways and not just taking advantage of the ability to make janky stacking effects. it's very telling that literally every response i got was a variation of

skyrim lets you cheat too

and not

but i cant make this cool unique spell effect without spellcrafting

it's the same people that want to cheat with dev permission that want the devs to reduce the difficulty (officially) so they don't have to turn it down themselves. it's annoying.

every guild and faction is feckless and incompetent in every TES. it's why the player always ends up leading them. even the slightly more competent ones like the thieves guilds and dark brotherhoods fall to infighting or obvious ploys by their enemies.

And how would you know that? Are you dead? Didn't think so, you can't say you know if you haven't done it before.

fighters guild isn't doing a damn thing

There are only two guild halls that give contracts, plus the ones directly from Donton and Oreyn.
The fighters guild deserved to lose to the Blackwood company, they pay like shit, Maglir was right.

Dead people also don't normally have the ability to get up, walk around, and flail their arms around. If some pixie dust powered femcel goth decides to kill you and use the power of unicorn farts and starlight to turn your dick into an inflatable flesh dildo, I don't think complaining about how it defies biology really matters at that point.

You forgot the part where he self immolates

Drop-dead gorgeous.

Dunno but I remember keeping the prisoner shackles the entire game because they were the only non armor hand items in vanilla.

Yeah no.
That's the same line of thinking which led England to ban selling spoons without an ID because surely if we ban every tools that can be used to kill people then surely the shitskins will stop killing people for no reason.