Stop calling it a JRPG

It does not share a fanbase with JRPGs. 90% of people playing this game are those who loved games like Elden Ring, Baldur's Gate 3, and Skyrim, NOT those who loved games like Persona 5, Metaphor ReFantazio, or Dragon Quest.

Now that's just straight up bullshit.

someone said it's a Je'RPG and it took me out

cope harder weeb. the best JRPG is french now

It's clearly made like a JRPG no matter how hard you try to cope about it, unless you consider Legend of Dragoon and some Tales Of not JRPGs because they have QTE or reaction-based inputs for attacking or dodging.

It's not because retards who are usually racists who completely ignore JRPGs (US journalists being the prime example) because of what they perceive as "anime tropes" or aesthetics flock to that game that it makes it something that isn't a JRPG, same reason why the more realistic artstyle doesn't make it not a JRPG.

Nope, it's factually correct.

Go look at any discussion about this game. Anon Babble threads, Reddit threads, Twitter, Youtube comments, wherever.

You will see the same comments popping up:

i thought i hated turn-based games but i LOVE this one!

it reminds me of sekiro and dark souls!

i love how mature and deep the story is, not like those stupid baby anime games!

the combat system is so much more complex and challenging than those outdated japanese games!

Not to mention that it is clearly, by far, most popular on PC, which is the platform of westernized games like Elden Ring, Baldur's Gate and Skyrim, not JRPGs.

>the combat system is so much more complex and challenging than those outdated japanese games!

This part is true. Apart from experimental shit like SaGa, this is more complex and challenging than your average JRPG.

A JRPG is a beef bowl, comfortable and familiar. I was worried a FRPG would taste like snails but it turned out to be beef bowl!

what about The Third Age?

L'RPG

J'RPG

FRPG

B(aguette)RPG

What else?

So you admit you don't actually like JRPGs. Thanks for proving my point for me.

the first J(e suis)RPG

Omelette du RPG

trollface RPG

I don't. I like games that put some effort into their combat systems - SaGa, Bravely Default, Enchant Farm, Vagrant Story, Black Souls 2, E33 - but I was bored to death by the likes of Chrono Trigger and Xenogears.

Nah it's definitely more JRPG than Soulslike

Can't believe its 2025 and people are still trying to make the argument that a JRPG has to be aesthetically Japanese or made in Japan. The difference between JRPGs and WRPGs are in the way that DND was interpreted into video games; WRPGs focus on the player expression, creating or building up a character, exploration whereas JRPGs eschew the amount of player choice in exchange for emulating DND's parties with a heavier focus on narrative, and DND's combat (which most literally translates into turn based). These differences imo largely come from Japan first getting into DND from media like Wizardry and Record of Lodoss War (which was a serialized publication of some friend's DND game) that led to them consuming DND through second-hand sources before being introduced to it by playing it directly. DND itself never had the popularity in Japan as its successors/imitators did.

It's more JRPG than Final Fantasy 16

tl;dr?
is it basically "let's not do it like this"

Can't believe its 2025 and people are still trying to make the argument that a JRPG has to be aesthetically Japanese or made in Japan.

That's a much better way of describing JRPGs than simply going "HURR DURR TURN-BASED = JRPG".

Kingdom hearts is not a fucking JRPG

It has nothing in common with JRPGs.

The creators of the game beg to differ.

he liked the way the party members in FFXV interacted in camp so he wanted to do something like that

c'est n'est pas une JRPG

The creators can lie as much as they want about how they were influenced by Final Fantasy X, but the actual game they made is closer to Sekiro and Dark Souls.

Lady Gaga says her new album is inspired by Nine Inch Nails. Doesn't mean it sounds anything like The Downward Spiral.

Its a mix of FF and Sekiro

You are correct.
But secondaries will tell you otherwise.

It does not share a fanbase with JRPGs. 90% of people playing this game are those who loved games like Elden Ring

Elden Ring is a JRPG

Souls games are Japanese role playing games btw

Exactly, which is why it's not a JRPG.

Elden Ring is a Japanese-developed WRPG. Everything about it from gameplay to story to aesthetics is westernized.

Elden Ring is a Japanese-developed WRPG

nah it's a JRPG

Jacque RPG

They are Japanese WRPGs. FromSoft are a bunch of cringey westaboos who take nothing from actual JRPG tradition.

This is barely even a rpg.

There's an incredibly obvious NiN homage track in the album anon, if you can't hear Trent Reznor in Perfect Celebrity I think you might be a retard

This is the best JRPG game I've played.

/thread

Demon souls was a joke, they changed the name to dark souls. Do you think Satan made a mistake? He obviously knew that it was going to be a long running series, he proved that already with final fantasy (even though it’s not final, it just keeps going with a new game every 5 minutes). So what a demon is actually is a 3Emon. Like a pokemon almost, something small. It’s a child. Satan talks about fertility all the time in his art pictures, and often worships women, especially white women. Even though there’s technically no difference between a black woman and a white woman. They’re both just his fucktarded perceptions of femininity which he gave up on and decidedly has been using for cuckolding. Anyways, a demon soul quite literally translates to a bad baby’s soul. So it’s literally a game title about being infertile.

1/13

Genre definition flamewars are some of the most pointless arguments I have ever seen,
but at least they're better than PC hardware and vidya music threads.

You gotta be a really tiny dicked virgin to even remotely care about something like this.

vidya music threads belong to E33 now too

The vocals are cleaner than I like, but yeah I hear it
youtu.be/tDZ6bi-YguU?si=dqk9z-6PTRrZIJW_

I'm surprised they made The Reacher entirely optional, one of the better dungeons

Kingdom Hearts is a JRPG

I’m going to start calling E33 a JRPG everywhere I can as often as I can, fuck you idiot nigger.

90% of people playing this game are those who loved games like [normie goyslop], NOT those who loved games like [normie goyslop].

???

true, I forgot about those.
I'm reminded of all those Nier: Automata OST threads.
People can't be trusted to attribute the correct composers to their favorite music.

If Kingdom Hearts is a JRPG, Morrowind is a JRPG

I don't know anything about this game but I hate it because its popular and I wanna be cool is this the right place for me

This irony poisoned place? Yep

It’s not really optional. I can’t really name you any optional content. How can you define it? Optional to me means something most people who played the game didn’t do. But if it was a good game they obviously looked a guide up and played all the stuff. Optional content ends up being bug abuse most of the time, stuff that impacts the game in a meaningful but unintended way. Like recruiting secret companions through map glitching, using items in new ways like the ISG glitch in ocarina of time. And the funny thing is these glitches were most likely included intentionally, because the guy making video games knows about speedruns and thought they were cool.

NOT those who loved games like Persona 5, Metaphor ReFantazio, or Dragon Quest.

so people with shit mainstream taste got it
I bet you also think jujutsu kaisen is "peak"

Its a western RPG that imitates JRPG

for non-autists, it means content you are not required to complete in order to see the credits

Your arbitrary definition of the word optional isnt the way everyone else uses it.
If its not mandatory in order to beat the games story, its optional

The first step of leftist deconstructionisim is to usurp.

If they can redefine what a JRPG is, then they can warp it to be what they want (more woke garbage)

Kingdom Hearts is an action RPG, not a JRPG.

You act like you just discovered a secret dungeon level that nobodies ever played when you use the word optional. Literally thats part of the base quest. Optional, to me, means something you actually say “hmm should I do this?”. So thats what makes it an option. If you replayed the game, you’d probably skip that part right? Otherwise it’s not very optional.

Optional means

to me

Noone said its a secret, we said its optional, stop conflating meaning

JPRGs aren't a genre. Or even real for that matter.

JRPGS don't exist.

100x this the games are literally build for a seemless transition from things like persona or final fantasy it uses the same style of elemental system, a wide accessory system and characters can fill any traditional role from red blue white or black mages to sword/ pistol dual weilding like SMT. The class mechanics are complex enough that there's depth but intuitive enough that if you're retarded they can still work.

didn't play the game

This game has more in common with persona than any soulslike if atlus released this game 0 people would bat an eye and all you retarded contrarian weebs would be slurping this game up. It has all the style of any atlus game with way more substance it being turn based isn't the reason they're similar clearly alot of things from the UI to flourishes and even the camera angles / party counter attacks are clearly persona inspired tired of you broke niggers seething on here go play the game before posting your dogshit opinions

Optional to you means it’s not an option apparently. Im not here to argue the meaning of words, merely to harass those of lesser intelligence than me, as a form of hilarity and dignifying equity simulation.

How can you define it?

.. I guess just content you're not required to do to reach the ending, which this area falls under

Fake autism isn't endearing. Stop being retarded. You know what they meant.

It's "un" not "une"

If they can redefine what a JRPG is, then they can warp it to be what they want (more woke garbage)

This might be part of it desu.

There's been an insane amount of discourse recently about how "you don't need to be Japanese to make a JRPG", all because of this game.

Feels like it's setting the stage for eventually saying "real JRPGs are made in the west, not Japan".

Take your meds.

buy an ad

buy an ad

The J in JRPG doesnt mean "from Japan" it means "In the style of RPGs that came from Japan during the initial RPG boom"
If youre like Dragon Quest youre a JRPG. If you take the J to exclusively mean "it has to be japanese" then you end up with a bunch of retards calling Kingdom Hearts and Dark Souls a JRPG

it doesn't have japanese people working on it so it's not a jrpg

souls games are wrpg even though it's made by japanese people

Pick one.

KH is a jrpg tho

"In the style of RPGs that came from Japan during the initial RPG boom"

There is no one style of RPG from Japan.

Some are turn-based, some are not. Some are partway between (eg. ATB games)

then you end up with a bunch of retards calling Kingdom Hearts and Dark Souls a JRPG

Kingdom Hearts IS a JRPG. FromSoft games are not, they are much closer in gameplay and aesthetics to WRPGs.

Bro I just found this option sword from shooting the dragons tail. I bet nobody knows about that [said very smugly like im the ultimate gamer] although I am definitely the best das3 player you’ve ever met and will ever meet .

No sorry, we agreed the J just means from japan, Dark souls is FROM JAPAN its a JRPG

Can I get a non meme answer for why this game is so popular?

WHAT IF HEADCANON

Kill yourself.

You can probably make a JRPG even being non-Japanese, so long as you are REALLY REALLY strongly influenced by Japanese games and make something that feels authentically Japanese. Clair Obscur does not achieve this.

FromSoftware achieved the opposite of this: They made WRPGs that are so convincingly western that the vast majority of normalfags who play them probably assume they were made by Americans.

It looks good, it's not $70, and it's not written like an MCU film with zero sense of sincerity

Its a high quality turn based game with good characters dialogue and story, its also not annoying like Atlus RPGs

and make something that feels authentically Japanese. Clair Obscur does not achieve this.

....Why should it try to be Japanese when it's a western game based on western culture that happens to use a JRPG style turn based system.

I cant give you one. Anyone can pirate it and see how bland it is

....Why should it try to be Japanese when it's a western game based on western culture that happens to use a JRPG style turn based system.

It shouldn't.

But if it's not trying to be Japanese, then it CANNOT be called a JRPG.

You will never be a woman.
Western slop will never be JRPG kino.

Nobody has called it jrpg. The devs themselves don't even call it that.

Zelda BOTW is my favorite JRPG

"In the style of RPGs that came from Japan during the initial RPG boom"

But japan never made an rpg.

Nobody has called it jrpg.

Except 99% of its fans shitting everywhere calling it "LE BEST JRPG EVER"

It's JRPG Slop. That fits the genre better.

Ugly characters. Depressing story. Total opposite of becoming a hero, becoming a tactless benefit of fortune. The idea that humanity could not solve something like this more elegantly in a real situation is also a slap in the face to our collective intelligence. You’d have to be a stupid consumer to buy a game that literally calls all humans braindead automatons. There are feats of technology capable in the ancient era that these people are unaware of, which is why high fantasy has badass airships. Bomb that painting cunt

Lack of Final Fantasy mentioned in the OP

Lol it's almost like he has to ignore the success of big blockbuster JRPGs in the mainstream to pretend like somehow this game doesn't appeal to JRPG fans internationally.

It did everything Final Fantasy has refused to do in 15 years.

Ahem

JRPGs are associated with 3 or 4 niggers in a row. Deal with it. People will continue calling it a "western JRPG"

sometimes 5
(Final Fantasy 4)

But enough about Nier Automata

... Which is? Could you expand on that or is this just yet another parroted statement?

Far superior, unfinished game. Unironically brilliant in certain regards, although it builds on tropes like reincarnated archetypes. Cool secrets for replayability, and genuinely interesting characters. Bit too varied art direction hurts the asthetic, but that’s the only real issue there, game is also way too hard. Harder than Persona 2!

unfair critique that can be applied to 90% of games

I love this JRPG

too hard

Are you stupid? Just kit out your party members. The only challenge is them fucking off for a couple hours and being undergeared

Gonna cry?

AI slopper is also a Goy Obscur fan

No surprise here.

You first.

the picture you posted depicts the concurrent player counts of 4 excellent JRPGs that came out in the last 2 years, despite their flaws

It has nothing in common with JRPGs

It has everything in common with JRPGs, retard.

Yeah, dunno why he added some random WRPG slop to it though.

Gonna cry?

JRPGs don't have generic realistic European fantasy settings or Soulslike combat.

JRPGs don't have generic realistic European fantasy settings or Soulslike combat.

Super Mario RPG and The Legend of Dragoon are soulslike now.
You lost, weeaboo-kun.

So, turn-based RPGs are good when they are not made by japanese? Compare BG3 to every JRPG on Steam.
Aren't you tired of losing?

What exactly is generic about COE33's setting again

JRPGs don't have soulslike combat

The souls games are literally JRPGs you humongous faggot.
They are roleplaying games. Made in japan.

Generic = not having le quirky disabled queer protag and men bad villain

It's not a JRPG.

It has nothing in common with JRPGs.

Yeah, except sharing the most common thing with them - being teleported into a combat screen by touching an enemy on the overworld.

It is not made by Japanese people, nor is it influenced in any way by Japanese culture, nor is it aesthetically Japanese.

Pic related.

soijak poster has never played a game in the genre he's shitposting about.

How shocking.

i like to fart into my hand and sniff it like a junkie

there're currently 15 threads about this game in the catalog

what's going on exactly?

So, turn-based RPGs are good when they are not made by japanese? Compare BG3 to every JRPG on Steam.

I don't care how well or poorly westernslop performs on Steam.

It looks like literally any western fantasy setting produced in the past 20 or so years, just with a mild French flair to it.

The souls games are literally JRPGs you humongous faggot.

No they aren't. They're WRPGs made by Japanese westaboos.

i'd rather have 15 threads about a good game than wokeslop n°1156541

It looks like literally any western fantasy setting produced in the past 20 or so years, just with a mild French flair to it.

No.

Wrong. I got gifted a few on steam, also pirated and emulated smt5 - all of them shared the same exact thing I'm talking about. Almost every time time I see a JRPG tag on a game and go looking for gameplay, it's got this nonsense.
Needless to say I don't enjoy them much.

Clair Obscur is literally just a turn-based Soulslike

nope

It's clearly a JRPG. JRPG doesn't mean it was made in Japan, retard. Just like Metroidvania doesn't mean a game is a Metroid or Castlevania game.

JRPG doesn't mean it was made in Japan, retard.

Perhaps not, but a JRPG at the very least must be meaningfully influenced in gameplay, aesthetic and culture by traditional Japanese-made RPGs.

And Clair Obscur is not.

must be meaningfully influenced in gameplay

It is.

aesthetic and culture

Nobody gives a shit about those.

gameplay

Inspired by JRPGs, Sekiro and DMC

culture

Gestrals are basically Nopons or some other bullshit quirky Japanese races

A decent western game will always be superior to a great japanese game

The main influences are Final Fantasy, Persona, and Lost Odyssey straight from the developer's mouth. It's a JRPG.

You are a faggot
Some are calling it a JRPG because it captures the essence of well liked games that pop to mind when one think of JRPGs (basically what used to be final fantasy for most people)

It does not share a fanbase with JRPGs. 90% of people playing this game are those who loved games like Elden Ring, Baldur's Gate 3, and Skyrim, NOT those who loved games like Persona 5, Metaphor ReFantazio, or Dragon Quest.

You got that backwards

take generic jrpg

give it good writing

don't make it an adolescent fantasy for nerds to experience what high school life might have been like if they weren't autistic

don't shove in random gods that are just there to make the writers pat themselves on the back for being edgy nihilists

give it good music

give it good gameplay

weebs are angry it does better than Shitastic Estacio XIV

Has anyone got the Nude Lune & Sciel mod from FrancisLouis's patreon?

The google drive link on kemono is broken.

Videogame genres are most of all used to give an idea of what the gameplay is like; not describe the game's "vibes" - if they do then it's either a worthless genre (can't think of any right now desu), or it's a secondary descriptor that goes after the proper one, e.g. "survival horror".

you are right, it's the picture of a jrpg

Une

holy shit fuck off retard.

>aesthetic and culture

Nobody gives a shit about those.

So if a bunch of Pajeets made an RPG set in India with a Bollywood storyline featuring a bunch of Indians fighting through Mumbai slums, set to "durka durka" music, but they also made it turn-based... That's a JRPG to you?

Inspired by JRPGs, Sekiro and DMC

Sekiro and DMC are the furthest thing possible from JRPGs in terms of gameplay.

The main influences are Final Fantasy, Persona, and Lost Odyssey straight from the developer's mouth. It's a JRPG.

The problem is the developers lied. Their main influences for gameplay were FromSoftware games, and their influences for aesthetic come entirely from the European fantasy tradition.

Nobody who liked Persona is playing this game, dude.

Most of the people praising Clair Obscur are shitting on games like Persona for being "less mature" and having "cringey anime tropes".

You know, I starting to see why Yoshi P and other jap producers started hating the term JRPG.

not reading all that, it's a JRPG

it is funny how it's gone from derogatory to something game's want to be called thoughbeit

gay weeaboo: actually its not japanese enough

So Wild Arms isnt a JRPG?

So if a bunch of Pajeets made an RPG set in India with a Bollywood storyline featuring a bunch of Indians fighting through Mumbai slums, set to "durka durka" music, but they also made it turn-based... That's a JRPG to you?

Turn-based alone doesn't make it a JRPG, but if I play it and think: "huh, this is kind of like final fantasy gameplay-wise", then yeah, I will call it a JRPG.

You dumb weeaboos can't even define your favorite genre:
you say it's "a videogame made in japan" - so, is Dark Souls a JRPG. Nope, nobody calls it that.
You then say "akshully it's a game influenced by nipponeeze culture you dumb gaijin". Okay, is Nioh a JRPG? Is Ghostwire: Tokyo a JRPG? Nope, also never seen anybody call them that.

If an American bakes a thick, sloppy, fast-food style pizza and says "UMMM ACKCHUALLY I WAS INFLUENCED BY THE TRADITIONAL METHODS OF ITALY WHILE BAKING THIS!", it does not mean he baked an Italian pizza.

Your food analogy doesn't work because clair obscur doesn't equate to a thick, sloppy, fast-food style pizza.

This. Requiring "THUH CULCHA" or "Themes" is retarded. Imagine this level of dissection for the genre of "Puzzle" or "platformer"

It does. This is pure WRPG with only superficial resemblances to a turn-based JRPG. Just like how an American pizza has only superficial resemblances to its Italian inspiration.

is off a frpg?

superficial

But if a French guy made an italian style pizza, its reasonable to say the frenchman made an italian pizza over an american pizza

WRPG isn't even a real videogame genre, nobody uses it except weeaboos who utilize it to label a product "not asian".

who the fuck cares lmao

JRPGs have no quests

You sound like you can't actually define a JRPG and just come up with vaguest bullshit possible on the fly.

It's a j'rpg

you're not getting away

I had a stroke leave me alone!

This game is a JRPG in the same way Castlevania Netflix is an anime. As in, it's not, and this is immediately apparent to anyone who actually plays JRPGs or watches anime.

you clearly don't even know what the original art piece meant by that

clair obscur is an rpg, made by french people, inspired by the style of japanese-made rpgs. the mistake in that whole semantic debate is thinking "j"rpg is a genre in itself rather than a style.
in that sense, it is undoubtedly a "j"-style rpg.

Clid Meyurs

CEXPEDITION

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Okay, so the final art they might have used was Humans. But the fucking structure(outline as to where things go) is 120% AI. I've seen this boxart before man. For like 10 years now??

Idk I don't play asian games. I just like CS and come here every now and then. But I'VE DEFINITELY seen that box art elsewhere on steam before hahaha.

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Gonna cry and pretend JRPGs are not made by pajeets for pajeets now, bin Laden-kun?

Ok, what would you say separates a jrpg and a "j-style rpg"?

yes its an established genre and its been defined. read the thread

How do you defend a plank of wood having more ass than anything burgers released for the past 10 years

Normalfags are allergic to "anime" (which they define as anything that isn't generic photorealism), and it prevents them from playing actual JRPGs. This game uses generic photorealism instead and has ugly Western characters, so it feels safe and approachable to them, rather than foreign and strange like "anime" games. The false sense of superiority of Japanese games is just ignorance and cope, to try and convince themselves that they are not missing out on anything.

The entire album is a collection of homages to her influences, everything from Reznor to Prince, Taylor Swift, etc

the JRPG formula was ripped off of Wizardry and Ultima in the first place, they just added a gay anime art style to it

Japanese Wizardry is infinitely superior to Western Wizardry.

the "gay anime art style" in question

Honestly there's barely a difference between JRPGs and WRPGs. Maybe the anime artstyle, but not every JRPG uses it.

the non-gay non-anime art style of the West

WRPGs

Nobody says that.

team-based rpgs are simply normie-popular now and this one is not shit
and anime been normie popular for a very long while
rephantsio was also a hit and every normie retard plays weeb gachas

normie

unironically and sincerely.kys

Good one.

what would you say separates a jrpg and a "j-style rpg"?

I assume you meant "jrpg as a genre" opposed to "jrpg as a style", but what I mean is that in essence a "jrpg" is only an rpg with a different stylistic approach (ie. anime aesthetics, verbose novel-like storytelling etc) but doesn't redefine the genre in itself.

there's nothing of substance to read in this thread, either spoonfeed me your argument or fuck off

and anime been normie popular for a very long while

Normalfags only like anime ironically, or anime that specifically panders to the West.

anime aesthetics

Define this.

verbose, novel-like storytelling

Agreed, this is one of the things that makes their RPGs superior.

Show, don't tell

The devs literally stole my ideas for FF17 but without the tactics type movement and combat. They put shooty game mechanics on it, parrying, timed dodges, etc. They did a great job honestly they showed that the Turn Based RPG genre is not stagnant there is a ton of ways to reinvent it.

TOTAL BARRY VICTORY

its literally just a JRPG

b-but the J stands for japanese!

i don't care, the words in video game acronyms don't actually mean anything by themselves its the acronym as a whole that people recognize
case in point: "MOBA" it literally doesn't mean anything, quake could easily be called a "multiplier online battle arena" but no one would ever call quake a "MOBA"
if expedition 33 would be called a JRPG if the studio moved to japan then its a JRPG

a turn-based Soulslike

Damn videogames are gay as hell now, I think I'll just read again

if the studio moved to japan then its a JRPG

Uh-huh. So how come nobody calls dark souls a JRPG? It's an RPG, the devs are from japan... doesn't track, buddy.

Define this

it is axiomatic and doesn't need further definition, any argument about this would be meaningless semantics.
"anime" here is colloquial but clearly encompasses a very specific artistic approach to design (minimalism and fantasism), explicitly different from the common stylized realism from western games.

Agreed, this is one of the things that makes their RPGs superior.

subjective. visual implicit and subcontextual storytelling as a charm of its own, and its seldomness in modern RPGs (indistinct from its stylistic approach) makes a game like clair obscur very singular.

The main story is the quest. and usually a side quest to get the ultimate weapon or a summon.

reddit space

you dont need 50 quests that are all unmemorable you just need 1 quest that is kino and leaves you a better man

its about post modernism, like deconstructing what shit means because the artist said so (which is bullshit because language has to make sense to be rational) I probably know more about philosophy than (you) lol because im not a hipster faggot that pretends to know I actually read.

based

Kingdom Hearts is a JARPG, like Dragon's Dogma.

anon...
reading comprehension....

I assumed you had a brain fart on that last line and quoted what I thought you were trying to say. If that last line of your post is exactly what you thought you were writing then I've no fucking clue what you were trying to convey there.

i'm not the anon but what he was saying is that the country of origin is meaningless. so if the OP would consider it a JRPG if it was made in Japan, then it clearly fulfills all needed criteria of a JRPG except for this arbitrary Country-Of-Origin requirement. And thus it is a JRPG no matter who made it. At least that is how i understood it.

Keep on crying faggots. It's a great game

JRPG is not a genre. The j just means it's from japan. Wrpgs and jrpgs are just classified as RPGS. There is no official distinction. The w/j simply states where it's from.
I can't believe I have to say this.

Dungeons and Dragons is a JRPG.

JRPG is a turn-based game that often has separate combat/exploration phases; and is heavy on the story which has little to no variation in how it's developed. It just so happens that it originated in japan and is still mostly produced there, hence the J.

WRPG is a term that no sane person ever used.

why try asset something you have no control over?

Nah, you wouldn't classify Dark Souls as a JRPG for instance. All JRPGs are just Wizardry-likes, N niggas in a row.
There is no such thing as a WRPG. There ARPGs, JRPGs, CRPGs but no WRPGs.

Lmao:
Predicted this shit instantly.

is heavy on the story

Crystal Project is a JRPG with a nonexistent story. Enchant Farm, clearly a JRPG, is also very light on the story.

Nah, you wouldn't classify Dark Souls as a JRPG

It's an rpg made in japan. A jrpg.
There is no way to debunk this.

It plays like JRPGs, so I'm calling it a JRPG.

and is heavy on the story

SMT games have barely any story and they are JRPGs.
Dragon's dogma and dark souls as well. They're action rpgs and japanese but still rpgs.

first few days of Anon Babble coming back online

only real niggas know, threads are quality and discussing the game

no ai threads in sight

no shitty endlessly reposted bait

catalog filled with nothing but game discussion, including expedition 33

2 days later

the faggots and perma asshurt tourists find out

Anon Babble instantly becomes a dumping ground for porn, tranny threads, and bait threads flooding the front page

sad!

A Romanian deadlift doesn't have to be performed in Romania.

This. Baldur's gate 3 is my favorite JRPG.

Are the deluxe outfits worth it?

You didn't predict shit, there's no D&D videogame in existence that has separated exploration and combat phases.

Japan didn't invent or popularize turn based gameplay. That's like saying the romanian deadlift is now an australian deadlift because a few guys there do it more often.

Never heard of those so I'm not gonna comment.

SMT games have a shit ton of dialogue, what are you on about. Surely you meant to say that they don't have any story compared to other JRPGs?

Dragon's dogma and dark souls

Nobody fucking calls those JRPGs.

They popularised N niggas in a row gameplay. It's what most of their games were like for years, while Wizardry-likes never really caught on in the west.

, there's no D&D videogame in existence that has separated exploration and combat phases.

When did that become the distinction between japanese and western games? Lmao. You can't just make up random rules to try and save yourself from looking like a moron you backpeddaling faggot.

If we're being really autistic it's a crpg, but it's very obviously a jrpg.

Yeah agreed, I would never want to lump this one in with JRPG trash. The dialogue is certainly a cut above "Woah, Touka-san! Your panties are showing! Better hide them before we kill God!" It's a game for those of us that grew up and got sick of dogshit anime tropes. Great writing, no garbage filler (wonderful 30-40h playthrough time), and gameplay that actually raises the bar while still managing to not be obnoxious. One of the few games I've played in the past decade that truly feels novel and next-gen

When I made my first reply that you decided to make a snarky reply towards, retardo. Where's the backpedaling?

Yes it is. RPGs in Japan developed almost entirely from the DNA of other western CRPGs. They are games informed by other games making them making them mechanically limited. However, it gives them a very distinct identity to western developed RPG vidya. RPGs in the west begin and end with the tabletop experience of DnD. If there's any misnomer it's the term "wrpg" because RPGs were invented in the west. They are the baseline.

Nobody fucking calls those JRPGs

Of course not because you would feel embarrassed over it so you try and twist the truth like a faggot. They are japanese. They are (action) rpgs. They are JRPGS.
JRPG will never be an official distinct category.
The J will always onlyyl ever refer to the country of origin.
Rpgs can be action or turn based.
Cry and piss yourself all you want. You won't change the truth.

Dark Souls is an action game with RPG window dressing.

lack of pantsu shots

novel and next gen

grim

I just found out about this game and hears that its like paper mario.
Is that true?
Thats my favorite game

They are ARPGs. Nobody calls them JRPGs because it's not what they are.

Yeah

whats the performance like?

Nobody calls Diablo a "western" RPG despite it being an RPG game made in the west. JRPG is a genre in of itself irrespective of where the game is made since it's a term loaded with pre-conceived trappings and stereotypes. People intuitively understand this concept. Why can't you?

broooooo I heckin' love me final fantasy please recommend i saw that its called jrpg please recommend me more

bro you should play dark souls bro you'll love it because they're both japanese

Said no-one ever.
It is a distinct category and it refers to a specific type of game (that's what genres are used for, shocking, I know), whether you like it or not.

I don't have anything against Expedition 33, but this isn't really a fair comparison.

Persona 5 Royal

A rerelease of a 2017 game released in 2022, two years after this exact rerelease was put out on consoles. No shit most people don't go through a 100-hour JRPG for a third time on a new platform.

Persona 3 Reload

A remake of a 2006 game. Many people might not have cared because they either already played it back in 2006 or they just don't get excited by remakes.

Metaphor

This one is actually a new game with simultaneous release, so it has the most players of all the JRPGs here. But it's a new IP, so many people probably didn't care about it as much as they would care about Persona. But sure, Expedition 33 is also new, so this is actually kinda fair. I also don't think this one is completely one-sided, these are pretty close-ish.

FF7

I don't even know which one it is because the quality is shit. Wikipedia says both remakes came out on PC like a year after their console release, so I bet that's the reason. Maybe the remake debuff ("I already played this game once, why would I play it again") counts, and if it's a sequel it might affect it too ("I haven't even finished the first game, why would I buy this one").

FF16

LOL Square Enix, who even trusts these guys at this point. Also, apparently the PC version was a year after PS5 version so that too.