Doom hasn't sold 1m copies

How dare you speak to me.

(((analytics)))
the fucking "HERE'S HOW MANY SALES THERE ARE" sites are so untrustworthy bringing them up is a gigantic fucking meme
since I keep seeing the same one, I'm starting to feel like it's a shill operation to get people top check out that site

You're such a clueless retard.

Yeah I'm sure that's what you tell yourself, but numbers don't lie.

It's extremely scummy to tout the amount of subscribers of goyimpass as "players" of your game. Yes they technically own the game license for now but most haven't even downloaded the fucking game.

Do you know who you're replying to cocksucker?
How fucking dare you even attempt a response.
Know your place

alinea analytics

I have literally never heard of these guys before

In fairness, it companies just released the numbers themselves we wouldn't have to constantly speculate so much.
But they're probably not revealing them because they're so good, right?
Right? That's how that works?

Playing terrible Americanised games is fine if it's from Japan

I hate Capcom for destroying every franchise they own.

2 Doomillion slayers

Yass, Dark Ages Marine, slaaaaaay!

surely they're counting goypass users that downloaded and ran the thing

Yeah. Any US AAA blockbuster is a skip for me since they began to heavily enforce Hollywood-style gov-liberal propaganda 15 years ago.

That seems pretty fucking dire, how could doom not sell at least 1 million copies?

Reddit

Anon Babble

The difference being?

gamepass probably saved them, since they got paid more than what people actually played.

Mandatory gaytracing

Majority are still stubborn GTX users

It is really that simple.

No real marketing, I assume.
Doom 16 got free marketing for bringing back Doom.
Eternal stood on the shoulders of Animal Crossing.
Dark Ages got nothing.

kek desperate

the first time they showed off gameplay we got this

god it just looks so bad
i haven't played it so i'm not going to ride the Anon Babble niggerwave of implying that it's bad in a gameplay wise, but holy shit is that a horrid way of making it visually

Pretty much this. They thought all the people who bought Eternal would just magically show up, so they didn't even bother marketing the shit.

I browse only Anon Babble and would welcome a rule banning anyone mentioning that other site?

cool cope, just in this image shows 42% of steam are RTX owners, ignoring ray tracing capable AMD gpus

I'm surprised Shitpass even has 2.2m users. Who unironically wants another monthly expense to own nothing when you can just buy the games you want instead?

This looks really shit. Like I'd rather play Doom 2 again.

reminder that MS owns Bethesda and all they want is to corner the market by getting everyone on goypiss

Personally I have not paid for a game since Dark Souls 3 released but I see the point.
I pirate games and some times I play them for couple of hours and drop them later for various reasons. It would be a really expensive hobby if I actually bought all the games that I have tried.
If piracy was dead I would probably go with game pass desu

This is just gay. Really really gay. Can this even be called a shooter

I try to keep my video game purchases to 1-3 games a year. Exceptions are made when they're on sale or when I feel the developers actually deserve some money.

1-3 games a year

Jesus and they wonder why the industry's dying.

won't play assassin's creed

won't play DOOM

won't play dragon age

why are chuds like this?

Average adult that play video games have always been in that range because of responsibilities. Video games are dying because now teens are only interested in Fortnite and other F2P games

I am non-buynary.

Xbox users.
It's the cheaper alternative when you're already paying for online play to just pay extra and get the games. It's cheaper than buying games in the closed market. There's no sales for consoles.

I put away £30 a month for gaming, if I don't spend it I save it until I hit a £90 game spending budget and even then I wait until the Steam sales for everything.
It's stupid consumerism to buy games full price knowing that a sale is always 3 months away.

more engagement = more good

woman moment

That's 10 bharves and 20 Ma'ams, chuddie.

the pajeet is here lol

Part of me wants the AAA industry to die so we can get a bigger variety of games to play besides ones from just a select few genres

shit game locked behind denuvo

y no sale

Tale as old as time.

It's stupid consumerism to buy games full price knowing that a sale is always 3 months away.

Agree. That being said there are a few games I still buy full price, simply because I want to support an increasingly niche set of developers.
Like pic related came out for 30 bucks and I bought it simply because I like the developers and they tend to make fun games.

i thought rebirth sales numbers weren't released

Yeah, must be some really great numbers considering they sure didn't hesitate to announce 3 million.

y no sale

nah it had like 30k concurrent during the premium edition period, that translates to like 50k concurrent. and its a 80 dollar game so not every sale counts as equal. add gamepass. add consoles.

game's doing fine.

the fact expedition 33 is catching up to this is hilarious

literally show .8M buyers in the OP

There's so many older (discounted now) good games, and so many free games, and so many new or upcoming games, to get that great sales need new titles to be special and unique.
Even then people are cautious now because of deceptive marketing, poor performance out of the gate (No Man's Sky, Cyberpunk, Stanfield, Star Citizen), and woke/anti-european hate (Last of Us II, Assassins Creed Shadows, Concord) being baked into entertainment they wait to see if titles are decent and worth the massive price tag they're asking these days.
There's too much competition to be mediocre in games these days asking for AAA prices. Except the few idiots and fanbois people are waiting if titles have any concerns of sucking or aren't special enough without a beta or demo.

And it's free with gamepass

the whole industry is fucked and has been for quite some time.
i blame indie games, the bubble was just about to burst and then everyone jumped on the small indie dev train, that shit kept the industry afloat just long enough for the 'developing world' to get online. now we have an endless sea of saars gobbling up anything with shiny lights.

Can't trust some 3rd party website. Game's also much more expensive and have prohibitive hw requirements for a lot of PC users. How do you account for that in your data?

games doing fine

Then why is it games that are doing fine and not bad have decided to change from sales to players?
What is it about these games that made them change how they present their success? Is it because of how fine they're doing?

older (discounted now) good games

That's why remasters are happening and why older games become unavailable to buy.
They're not just competing with everyone else, they're competing with their old selves when they made games out of passion and wasn't forced to create a game for extracting money over fun.
Gaming is getting over saturated and the only thing keeping them alive is caring about graphics. If Xbox 360 level graphics became an accepted level, newer games would all fail in favour of the older, less predatory, cheaper to run and cheaper to buy games.

id is creatively bankrupt

and have prohibitive hw requirements for a lot of PC users

wilds literally needs beefier PCs and reached over a million CCU

Game's also much more expensive

ok, and? it's the price of Hogwarts early access and that reached 400k CCUs

you are both falling into confirmation bias fallacies. nudoom was never a blockbuster IP, eternal did fine because of covid but without the covid buff they are probably more or less making similar revenue to TDA. the audience for these games isn't growing or shrinking and long run i'm expecting similar income as with the other titles. and basing your opinion on steam charts is a huge logical fallacy in face of all the factors like the game being cheaper to make due to RT only support and majority playing on gamepass etc.

wilds literally needs beefier PCs and reached over a million CCU

this is incorrect, at least based on a cursory google search. IDtech8 requires hardware raytracing on PC.

ok, and? it's the price of Hogwarts early access and that reached 400k CCUs

apples to oranges. the comparison should be between previous series entries or other AAA single player FPS games, in that category nudoom stands strong.

Hello Todd, I'm not going to buy your game though.

this is incorrect, at least based on a cursory google search. IDtech8 requires hardware raytracing on PC.

yea cool, 1000 series non gaytracing capable GPUs practically can't run wilds even tho it doesnt require mandatory gaytracing

practically

this ... seems incorrect. the official recommendations a budget 1000 series GPU can still run the game at its lowest spec.

meanwhile you need hardware raytracing to even boot the game up in the case of IDTech8

apples to oranges.

yea, im sure people are delighted to know their old 10 series gpus can run it at 720p 30FPS

I don't play garbage.

your point was that the PC requirements filter an equal amount of players from your game which is a false statement. the game you linked still runs at subhuman FPS ranges where most people who still have 1660s are used to playing games. the same thirdie won't even be allowed to boot up doom. the bar for elimination is astronomically higher if you cant even boot the game.

i would imagine most people didn't play dark ages because it looks like shit. it looks like a parody of what a marketing team would throw together if they were trying to make a doom game for a wider audience.

surely

Last time I bothered to dig into one of these "X million players (reached)!" claims, their definition left enough room to count anyone who even interacted with the game's download page on a subscription service.
For all we know, these scummy faggots are counting anyone who even scrolls past a DOOM image on goypass as a "player reached".

How does gamepass work? financially what do they get from a gamepass download? Arenthey paid something for each download, is it a lump sum at the beginning? is it a lump sum after a period? how does this work?

muh third worlders
lets see, half of steam has RTX capable GPUs
back when Zoom Eternal released there where 20M CCU for STEAM
Today there's double at 40M

Zoom Eternal 100K peak

Zoom Woke Ages 30K

this is clearly not a hardware issue but keep coping todd

SHIT
AND
FART

Nobody has any idea. It's a trade secret.
It'll probably leak eventually, but the hard reality is that we can only speculate right now.

Fuckig Monhun Wilds ran like absolute ass and people still bought that shit.

even doom eternal looked shit in the previews, main point is i think the game didn't flop or bomb but its just some dumb twitter console war nonsense. the game was obivously made on the cheap even compared to eternal and had a lower marketing budget as result. the fact so many people seem to miss this while comparing it to capcom's biggest franchise and the year's biggest FOTM like hogwarts legacy is insane.

the game was obivously made on the cheap

the coping continues, if it's made cheaply whys the high price?

Nobody cares about copies sold anymore. This isn't 2005.

its popular on gamepass

but that is literally what xbox wants, to push the gamepass subscriptions. A bunch of people got it just for oblivion and now they are playing 33 and Dark Age, all according to plan

Until GTA6 drops, pretty much, yeah.
That piece of shit is gonna make so much money though, that every investment firm on the planet is going to get diamond hard all at once and start looking for sugar babies to stick bills into.

streaming services actually measure minutes watched. i would think gamepass does the same. either way gamepass has 34 million subs, devs should make better games.

Well can we know how long those gamepass players played the game?

clive has an excellent va

33 has clives va being excellent again

I think theres a connection there, but just in case, say thanks to ff16

It's free, in general.

insane pricing from the get go

stingy system requirements for pc, muddy blurry looking on consoles

gimmicky not in a fun way gameplaywise

people unironically see when there is something wrong

Thats not a metric they care about, just like netflix. They don't care about how long people play a game or watch a show or movie. All they care about is that their subscriptions grow, and that there is just enough content for you to never get bored.

Same people who want to play terrible japanese games I suppose

because that's the expected price for a AAA game nowdays. you are asking why someone who pays a lower tax should start paying a higher tax just because of kindness

Americans.

Avowed was cheaper to buy, do it not count as AAA anymore? Same amount of employees on both sides

avowed is AA

You can say nigger on Anon Babble unless the tranny janny is in a bad mood that day.

Oblivion is a cheaply made AAA remaster how come it's price was so low?
also you mentioned marketing, the only marketing it had was leaks that it existed, microsoft literally shadowdropped it

Yo Anon Babble should i play this one? It looks pretty cool and spooky

It's alright. It's got some nice atmosphere, but honesty I'd rather just play Dead Space instead.

Based, it out did Shill Obscur

because it was an even cheaper game made by just remaking assets, any more retarded questions that just prove my point?

I don’t care about owning the games. I just want to play the day one games. In leaffbucks a year sub to gamepass is the price of 2 new games. It’s really the price of one and a half games. I can even hold off on renewing gamepass until a new game comes out.

a year sub to gamepass is the price of 2 new games

Until they ramp up the price, and the will, then pic related.

Maybe nuDoom 4 will be closer to the first two games

so let me get this straight
avowed, a game in development for longer and with the same amount of staff is somehow categorized as double AA and priced as such and oblivion an even cheaper game to make is categorized even lower and priced lower
so would that mean that Zoom Woke Ages maybe, actually, might not be cheaply made and is priced accordingly because it actually cost MS a shitload of money?

Here, I crossed out the GPUs, which can't hit 60 fps on 1080p medium

60 fps on 1080p medium

50fps ultra nightmare on the literal first card

youtube.com/watch?v=FpPJax1Gqm8

framegen

dlss

embarrassing

There is a DLAA benchark too, you fucking faggot.

A lot of casual gamers buy it, this month alone you have Expedition 33, Oblivion and Doom
Buy all 3. If you bought those you're looking at £170 and a 1 year pass is £55.

All those games are shit

Casual actually play games, not just bitch about them online.

movie releases on Netflix

Netflix announces 5m people watched it, massive success

people dont say a word because thats good!

game releases on GamePass

MS announces 5m people played it, massive success

people lose their minds because thats shit!

explain this to me

Charge 80 eurobucks

Gamers don't buy it because there are plenty of other games to play that are cheaper

Whats the fucking point? Anyone who is unironically interested in playing it will just buy it when it's on the inevitable sale. There is zero urge to play it here and now. The fact that DLCs were so crappy also ruined any hype.
Shit like this also breaks the immersion. Imagine if every time you could parry in Elden Ring it would have HUGE GREEN GLOWING SKULLS. It would suck ass

2 black gays in a room with bisexual lightning is cheaper to make than AAA games

It really seems that this game just dropped and was promptly forgotten. Doom 16 and Eternal were fucking huge, for months were all people talked about, and of course the shitty memes done to death. No one is talking about this new Doom. Must be the steep price, or the mandatory raytracing, that locks out 80% of the PC playerbase, or simply because it’s no longer novelty, just another boomer-shooteresque zoomer shooter.

it sold Gamepass subscriptions which is enough for Microsoft.

just shows that gamers are ready for 80 dollar games.

don't they have to reveal the numbers though? Fucking ubisoft pulled the "3 million players" even in an investor presentation.

Those people already had game pass. They didn't buy it for this game.

It's been more than a week and I still haven't seen a single gameplay webm that looked fun to play.

2 black gays in a room with bisexual lightning is cheaper to make than AAA games

a bangladeshi man """purchasing""" the game off of gamepass for $0 (as he's already a subscriber) and then clicking on it once before closing the game forever after 10 minutes of gameplay is a """"""player""""""

I genuinely don't understand who these bogus numbers are supposed to fool. Surely if you're a shareholder of a big gaming company you understand at least a little bit about videogame, why else would you invest in this shithole industry

Only good doom is the og stuff

30+ million people have access to play this game FOR FREE

Less than 10% of them bothered to even download it

Levels of pathetic never before seen

You seriously do not comprehend just how much shareholders don't give a FUCK about knowing even the most basic shit about the companies/industries they're invested in

I'd play it if it would run better on my PC. It's a travesty that this game runs worse than Doom Eternal while not looking better.

That's modern gaming, where time is monopolized by a handful of live service games and normalfags rarely touch anything single player. Shit happened on PC in the late 2000's when everyone played Valve and Blizzard multiplayer games and nothing else. Now consolefags are going through the same thing.

friendly reminder that just downloading the game counts as a "player" on gamepass

Movies makes 90% of their money from box office. As for Netflix original series, they are cheap as fuck, so cheap they hire literal whos to write them all the time. They are basically just advertising for the service itself.
Meanwhile your average AAA costs blockbuster tier money to be developed.

But see, by using RT stuff they are saving money on development. No it won't reflect on the final price, actually they are just increasing it since developers deserve better. Don't be a chud.

now imagine if the latest avengers or whatever flopped on box office and all their money had to come from streaming

Games being more cheap to make and easier for the developers is good.
What's not good is the huge decrease in performance.
What they are saying is : "In order to make it easier for us to make games, you the customer should spend more money on hardware"
This will never happen but they can keep trying and failing.

It's never in your best interest, just keep that in mind.

I really, really wish there was a way to shove in the devs faces when they choose to have denuvo shit like this happens.

Just do like I did, purchase the game, leave a bad review and refund.

It could be, for example if they spent less time on lights, they could use that time to remove bugs or improve the ai.
But I understand that this will not happen.

They don't. They're legally obligated to inform investors of how the business is going, but how they do that is on the demand of the investors. As long as they mention profits and line goes up then that's literally all anyone cares about.

in the late 2000's when everyone played Valve and Blizzard multiplayer games and nothing else

We can ALL tell you weren't there for that.

I’ve forgotten about this, lmao

cram game with Denigger because muh profits

game still flops

turns out many people would never buy it anyway, whether or not they could pirate it

And let’s not forget that the game is a spin off set on the past no one asked for. Hopefully this flop will bury this Nu-Doom just like TNC buried Nu-Wolfenstein

I do this plus the same on other review sites that will take my opinion.

It looks substantially better, keep coping.

Nah, I doubt it. Todd's a good salesman, he'll get to try this shit at least once more. Microsoft more than has the money to pump a bit more cash into this dead series.

What's worse is i played Eternal without Denuvo on it, it ran so beautifully and I never lagged, and this was on a 2080. Now people are complaining the performance sucks on Dark Ages. Gee, wonder why?

Doom: the woke ages flopped badly as expected

It got so bad that Epic completely left PC to make 360 games for a bit. The only thing I really left out are the f2p MMOs. Do you want to talk about Gunz? Were you gosu?

We hate this. This ain’t Expedition 33, fellas.
(Can someone explain why E33 is okay and Doom isn’t? Trying to enhance my marketing skills so I can help the movement)

you are already doing well, marketeer

I’ve run Eternal on an RX580 on 4k in Ultra Nightmare and it never fell below 60 fps. Eternal’s DLC did have Denuvo but still ran well.
The main issue causing the performance woes on this new Doom is the mandatory raytracing. It’s well known that it tanks performance in exchange of minuscule gains (in some cases it makes the game look worse), not to mention that it arbitrarily locks out all players that don’t have a raytracing capable GPU

COD black ops 6 flopped hardcore

Doom DA flopped hardcore

Assassins Creed flopped hardcore

FF7R flopped hardcore

FF16 flopped hardcore

Meanwhile:

new IP Expedition 33 surprised with good numbers

new IP Stellar Blade surprised with good numbers

Monster Hunter Wilds that is "basically" the second title for the western audience is the best selling game of 2025

Schedule 1 has sold more copies than 80% of AAA games in 2025

It's almost like... huh... Players want new IPs or ideas.

Fully agreed, and it’s even worse than you say. Microsoft is a publicly traded company, and faking sales numbers is considered fraud.

Since you’re familiar with fraud rules, do you know how to submit an FTC complaint so Microsoft can be fined? I just use this website, right? reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Not new ips, people just want fun games to play.
Graphics are not as important as the executives would like us to believe.

It's been a shambling corpse since about 2010. I don't know what I'd call it now.

800k copies

Fucking grim, what a complete disaster

800k sales is too much for that horseshit just shows how braindead some people are

Cater to straight men with pretty women

Success

Aside from FF anyway, that series is permanently tainted with dogshit from the XIII days and is fated to never recover.

Stellar Blade surprised with good numbers

lol

Nah, this thread isn't a jeet trying to sell his crypto scam.