Fight Club Thread

Fightan bros go downtown during weekends!

Play fighting games

Discuss fighting games

Post fighting games waifu

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first there was MvC4 speculation after the collection title update

now injustice 3 stuff is circulating

I KNEEL fighting game capechads

How's Fatal Ronaldo - City of Ganacci doing?
Has sold a million copies already?
I want Capcom Vs SNK 3 asap.

Play fighting games

Alright, I'll play some more Iron Saga VS. I picked up the phone game via emulator and god it looks and feels so ass. Old ass korean MMO tier UI and the battles feel like some fucked up RTS thing. I wouldn't mind seeing them add Tsukuyomi, Carestia or Zhen Xuan Wu to the game. Or Kuon, Wyonna or Hitomi if we're talking pilots
Games okay considering I half picked it up just to shout at the devs for DLC picks. I wish the UI was better though, even just being able to go from mech to pilot considering the reverse exists.

Discuss fighting games

alright, unless you homos start steamcharts posting or being extremely stupid

Post fighting games waifu

more than one waifu ruins your laifu. If you want best girls though, but your lucky mi amor made it into one as an assist and I will forever be upset

Massive snub.

guys im fighting my drunk dad trying to get him off the coach right now whats the matchup whats the frame data

Unfortunately he's had too many drinks so he has armour on all his moves, it'll be tough.

Anybody wanna play some Strive

I can play if you want, I'm in Europe. I just picked it up again recently after not playing in a while.

NOOO YOU CANT JUST PLAY STRIVE YOU NEED TO PLAY MY OLD BOOMER KUSOGE AIEEEEEEEEE

I can play the old boomer kusoge too if you want.

I'm tired of the S4 patch and Unika turned out to be Ramlethal 2 (with no resource management this time)

I'm Midwestern US but if you're cool with that drop a lobby

Did they fixed the source code leak? I remember watching some vid a couple of weeks ago about that.

there were no new vulnerabilities found, there are ones that have existed but as of yet they’ve not been exploited.

The source code leak led to jackshit apart from leaking Lucy and some cursed dev WIPs like Answer being used to develop Slayer

What do you mean by fix
The source code was leaked but it was stolen from Arcsys not from a vulnerability in-game or whatever

The ID is 623508

Fighting games are legitimately a dead genre.

SNK Fighting games are legitimately a dead genre.

Fix'd. Next time, don't make an ugly sausage fest with terrible guest characters.

more like nobody likes snkslop

Man, fucking suck trying to pickup a older game like Soku and no one bother to play with me because "im bad".
People like to say skill gaps dont matter, but id say theyre the main cause why theyre so hard to pick up on average

GGs

Thanks for playing, sorry I have to leave it there. The connection was definitely felt but it was still fun.

Yeah navigating cubes was funny with 6f rollback and I'm sure blocking I-no was horrible with it as well

host soku

Yeah, there were some teleporting lows but I just told myself I'm sure I was landing some instant Accipiters anyway so it probably came out even enough.

KOF XV is infested with third world scrubs

Alpha 3 FC is dead

Nobody's playing Injustice

Nobody's playing SFV

Sigh

i unistalled it yesterday

reinstall it and play with me

redditgief

One and done

too traumatized from yesterday

playan

capcom collection 2 games and dick around with combos in gg and tekken to get better at stick

discuss fighting games

i actually liked the nen impact demo surprisingly

waifu

Iron Saga VS

i actually wanna try this. are getter or dancouga good?

nigga just zone lmao how tf is losing to gief real hahahaha

I'm fiending for a fightan now and with Tekken being dick piss shit thanks to S2 and the introduction of Fuckerman I'm left looking to SF6
When the fuck is this shit going on sale so I can pick it up cheap? I just want to get my shit rocked in a fightan I've never played before.

kwab how can you be scared of that baby game

I just want to get my shit rocked in a fightan I've never played before.

maybe it'll be on sale for S3 release next thursday
I'd also hold out on buying it before it's out because there's no guarentee Capcom isn't going to pull some retarded shit with the balance patch

oh fuck off fag, just because soku is easy, doesnt mean the game isnt infest with 2/300+ hrs chinks

I have no idea what this means.
I can do directional inputs. I've put some hours into anime fighters.
I see. Is balance in a good place right now? I don't really care that much for balance, I usually just pick characters I like.

Last year game and Season 1 pass was on sales when they announced season 2. Try look it up during this week, there will be Elena announcement or when S3 will be announced.

It’s funny because I remember big strive players saying a similar thing, about how anyone still playing the old games has to be a bigot.

I just want to get my shit rocked in a fightan I've never played before.

try the free version of KI2013, fren

yes and i see good soku players as a joke and that they would never get a round of me in a real game its like being proffesional chess players and geting tilted you lose at checkers

are getter or dancouga good?

I'm not sure. I think almost everything is viable except for solo getter. The Combo Breaker set had a lot of repitition but I believe EVO JP was pretty varied. I think there was a Dancouga in CB even.

He posted the logo for fightcade which can do netplay for old emulated fighters. You can even set up fightcade to auto-download roms for games

>I see. Is balance in a good place right now?

almost every character is viable and you can still do well with the worst ones at lower ranks
most characters are around 50% wr globally but imo this is more because the game's extremely volatile, if you look at the individual character kits, it's obvious some (mostly shotos) have way more privilege due to their toolkit + frame data

the part that sucks the most right now is the game has a fuckton of corner carry (literally one hit midscreen can send you to the corner, iirc some characters can even do corner to corner routes), and corner pressure is about looping strike/throw/shimmy while the defense is forced to guess on which one will happen

right now there's no info on whether or not they've fixed any of this for S3

about how anyone still playing the old games has to be a bigot

I've been called out.

about how anyone still playing the old games has to be a bigot.

wtf literaly me

its like being proffesional chess players and geting tilted you lose at checkers

Where did i imply thta you dumb fuck????
Losing for hours agaisnt knowledge checks isnt fun

Fine I'll stop playing strive and go back to Xrd or +R

Post kino fightan webm pls

Man if you are getting rocked by D players just fucking sudoku

Just play fukmar

buy the fighting collection 2 chuddy

God I wish I didn't hate charge motions and my fingers understood what to do. Instead I don't so I'll just wish death on all charge players because I can't do this shit.

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sausage fest

Based but only because pie fest fighting games are equally bad ideas like Arcana Shart or SNK Heroin.

Try doing 4 way charge inputs

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NTA but your post hurt me

SFVI roaster is kinda lame. I mean fuck T8 roaster is lame as fuck too. What the fuck happened to fighting games and people making dope ass OCs for the sequels?

They removed combos and links from street fighter cause people that play that game are too fucking stupid to be able to do those even with macros and shortcuts.

Dixers truly are worse than scum

Didn't happen. Most that did was ONE particular fag that used to play Xrd talking about strive hate being dog whistles or some shit.

No thanks. I'm so glad there's a bunch of characters I like in Uni so I don't have to play Vatista

God I want another DBFZ so fucking bad. I'll host a lobby if someone wants to play on PC.

I'd like another DBFZ but with a shounen IP with more varied abilities.

I want The BoondockZ

I see no future for this genre.
But at the same time I also dont think there will be this great collapse, just further enshittification.

4 way charge AND negative edge

Uni devs are on something else

WAAA WAAAA WE SHOULDVE HAD TRANSFORMATIONS AND LIKE I SHOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO PLAY AS FRIEZA SOLDIER AND RADITZ REEEEEEEEE
shut the fuck up

KILL ALL MEN RARRRGHHHH!!!1

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I don't fucking want transformations either, I fucking HATE DBFZ and think it's boring as shit.

WELL I FUCKING HATE YOU LEATHERMAN

limb-based fighting

kek do you even know what are you saying

Kek she do be saying this.

Rev Accel and Rev Blow are some of the most unfun mechanic i've seen in a fighting game.
Yeah, even worse than Drive Rush.

doesn't he just mean tekken. so he wants something outside sfvi, tekken, and not having cool Gokus.

It's more of a joke on Tekken but it does a half-accurate job of describing why I don't think DBFZ is all that interesting. There's no "fightning" techniques anymore, it's just punches, kicks, and different color ki blasts.

Do a better job of reading next time, DBmexican

UNI is fun but I'm an Aussie so I wasted $30

With the amount of aussies I see saying this around Anon Babble alone and I think you guys could have formed your own lobbies.

uni is not fun and you never played with anyone online so you wouldnt know that

It's just one guy moving back and forth really fast

even in the EU it's a bit of a pain to get matches in and I hate you can't lab while looking for a match
it's fun but getting to play it feels like a hassle

I hate you can't lab while looking for a match

You totally can in ranked? What?

Fuck you leatherman.

and I hate you can't lab while looking for a match

But you can use training mode while matchmaking

oh shit you can? either I went full retard and didn't see the option or I was playing casuals, thanks for the heads up anon

EU so fucking dead this guy didn't even touch ranked and see the training mode option.
You can even wait in training mode in an open lobby too. Come the fuck on, dude

The only games Aussies play are Rust and CSGO. There's an Aussie anime fighter discord but I'm not going anywhere near that

There's no "fightning" techniques anymore, it's just punches, kicks, and different color ki blasts.

what the fuck you wan dbz characters to do

Not make a DBFZ fighter for one. I'd even take Nardo or One Piece since it'll have a variety of powers.

rosterfag

well I want P5 Arena, but sometimes we can't fucking get what we want.

i guess atlus wants that gacha money instead

based. reminder that frame links and combos were not intended in the first SF and only happened through glitches. retvrn to tradition.

Scoot-a-laroo!

Reminder Mai = racism

50 year old girls shouldnt act like this

haven't played in like a month

hop on today

drop two games to a guy who shouldn't have taken any

I adapted and started crushing him but man I fucking hate ring rust. How do you guys keep your skills sharp when you're not playing every day?

my fundies never go away
it's like knowing how to drive a car or how to ride a bike.

you play 2 games and then go back to form

can't you roos play with japs?

im not really into fighting games but im playing mk 11 because i generally like the worldbuilding and character designs of the series. t's the most noob friendly fighting game, yet i can never win. i cant manage to interrupt people even with the fastest windup animation attacks so i just sit there and take it. here's my big boobed waifu btw

I only play once a week in the lobbies here but everything is so ingrained in my muscle memory at this point that my execution doesn't suffer for it.

play often, get burned out

play less often, get rusty

It sucks to be geneless

Even though its singleplayer mode is the most casual normalfag friendly fighting game, I imagine that because of its jank, MK's multiplayer must be dominated only by those who have mastered said jank.

SF6 Season 3 hopes?

Redhead Mai

SEXO level off the charts

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Didn't someone leak it?
Something about Ingrid being in S3?

I'm down for some matches in xrd, bbcf or uni if anyone's interested

mk 11 is the most "competitive" like out of every single mk game, so that's why i even bother trying to go online.
i've seen videos about the new mk1 reboot where people do flying combos and get juggled for 90% health so in that case i wouldn't even have bothered.

Sakura + Makoto + Male newcomer + R.Mika

So uh, is anyone playing the HXH demo? Came out yesterday I think. Thoughts?
Garouden Breakblow. Thank me later.

find Mortal Kombat 9 on some abandonware thread

download and try

it works

no Kratos, as to be expected

decide to remove Freddy Kreuger files to see what would happen since I never liked his inclusion

Freddy somehow replaced with Goro, Kintaro and Shao Kahn

it's now a pure Mortal Kombat game

Holy fuck, that was a delight to discover.

Sagat, Vega, Ingrid and C. Viper

Sucidal Season, hopefully they will not go full retard. M. Bison was already a wasted slot, let's not add another 4 wasted slot.

noise about alex, sagat and c viper from a few """sources""" with ingrid tacked on later

alex would be the least surprising since hes the sf3 'protagonist' and this is continuing after 3

I'll play any of those.

This but old fighters, im too bad for them and i just play Tekken 8 sometimes (even if i dont like season 2) at this point.
I tried every older fighter from SFIV to Xrd, turns out they're too hard Vs a more experienced playerbase without someone coaching me irl since im to much of a retard to vod review my stuff, maybe im just not built for discord fighters

let's do some xrd then steam://joinlobby/520440/109775244965499294/76561198075273660
I'm from south america btw if that's okay with you

I'm NA East so usually it's fine.

That would be a really good season, which makes me believe it isn't real.
Really miss playing UMvC3 C. Viper

The only wasted slots are guest characters, anything else is fine.

I lost to a brown girl playing alisa in texas (she was streaming) just spamming b3+4. so it's okay bro, shit happens. Although I'm dropping this shit game and moving back to sfvi.

sfvi or strive?

I like Strive more honestly, although this latest season has been the worst so far

the two are really different flavors of shit

alex

Based if he's not shit this time

sagat

Boring.

c viper

Fucking BORING

Ingrid

CRINGE INCARNATE, PUT IN LITERALLY ANY OTHER FUCKING FEMALE

SF6 by a mile for me.

wonder what capcom meant when they teased her in a SFV story mode then proceeded to do nothing after it.

C.Viper has potential to be really good with all her gadgets, SF6 has been doing a really good job of revamping movesets.
The only boring ones are the 2 guests that are just their usual versions with every move.

Street Fighter 6 made a couple of frens of mine who dropped in the arcade time ('90) reinterested in the genre.

Shitty season if real

The dopamine of getting a ragequit is unparalleled.

I always thought it was lame her strength came from gadgets and shit. Hit the gym you bitch, learn to do control lightning and fire the old fashion way.

Isn't Rashid basically that?

I think Strive is more fun at the moment. The characters and the overall gameplay is way more unique, even though it does lead to some pure cancer at times.

play skullgirls

Resets into resets, the game

Nah

just play filia and mash her level 1 super

Why? When real Marvel 2 with rollback exists?

I also dislike Rashid

because it's fun

where are the aacc chads?

Strive

varied kits, a few cancerous top tiers that you can dodge, utterly garbage matchmaking/online system, a shit ton of stuff to lab (character specific counterplay, burst safe/baiting routes, optimizations/mixups)

SF6

uniform kits with a few oddballs (which are just low tiers as a result), everyone exploits system mechanics in the same way
very "linear" gameplay where interactions feel like they're mostly decided by frame data/hitboxes
insanely good online quality, matches are found in a second with no lag at all

I prefer Strive, but I've been playing some SF6 waiting for Unika/mid season patch

it's possibly the worst season when it comes to top tiers, but high tiers (Ky/Sol/Slayer/Gio[...]) are in a really good place imo

I think uni might be more popular in America than even Japan

utterly garbage matchmaking/online system

To be fair they promised a system rework in a month or so

KICK THAT CHUNNER BITCH OFF THE PLANE

sacking a bunch of placement matches so you aren't randomly put into diamond kinda sucks in sfvi

just dont bother

This kills the Anon Babble scrub

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Here's the Blazblue lobby.
steam://joinlobby/586140/109775244971506087/76561199197204677

Anon Babble

friends

Never give up. Mash DP.

I need general advice for playing Es

dogshit game

6B

What do you mean, just
6B
jC
jB
2A

Health bar gone, brain empty. Life good.

paizuri on wakeup

Aw yeah, sorry if I lag.

that fucker has some range on his seemingly stubby buttons what the hell

It kind of weirds me out that 6B and jC aren't jump cancellable on block, but I get the idea of them. Doing good offense without getting pushed back or hit by overdrive seems kinda hard. I kinda struggle with her combos that use her drive. Is there any frame viewer mod?
So that's what they call her dp...

They said in Summer, and any time range in companyspeak usually actually means that it will be as late as possible within that timeframe, so it could well be August. Still better than not getting it at all though.

Improvement mod has a frame viewer and an option to display hitboxes and hurtboxes in training mode.

funnyilaffed

I need general advice for playing Es

Real answer?
Go to some discord and find someone willing to VOD review your shit gameplay especially in a hard game like BBCF so you dont end up banging to a wall like a retard every day
Meme answer?
Just lab her dishonest mixups bro!

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Spam jD because that shit is insane

I'm out of my field here.

Do I get the one on github? It sounds like what I need but looks like it was last updated before the game’s last update.
I really don’t like using discord but I might try that. I’ve been watching tournaments mostly.

I love my wife

Alright thanks I’ll get it, an older one came up when I searched.

Unsure if there a rematch limit to swap people around but GGs

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I've tried with match limit before but people can just requeue against each other so there's no point. Unfortunately I think both players just need to agree to wait.

Did you try playing the game?

Yes but I’m dumb and all I do is jump and do fireballs, dp, basic combos, and hope people get hit.

It's nice to see BB lobbies on Anon Babble again. What other games have lobbies in these threads?

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every game

I'm dropping things I normally would not. I want to die.

The life of a Naoto in a nutshell.

Guys I did too well in my Mai placement matches and now I'm in silver rank, without knowing how to do a single Mai combo. What the hell do I do now? Should I just throw the next 15 games?

fought 3 people today and they all rage quit on third strike. I am not evcen good at it but I guess they were all new to the game. I feel a little bad

UNI sometimes
Melty AACC now more rarely
Soul Calibur 2 & 6 very often because of a few based autists
I think I've seen a few Soku lobbies

Well they played Strive in here before BB

AACC and UNI every now and then.
I'd even host Arcana Heart lobbies if people don't get too angry about getting hit by a combo.

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waifu

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rank literaly doesnt matter until diamond youre fine bro just play

Silvers cannot

anti air

react to DI

perform a combo without wasting drive meter

stop parrying on wakeup

not mash after a plus button

Use that knowledge to your advantage

+R, and uni has its own threads on weekend nights.

Timeless FGC advice. Thanks anon I will never give up

I'd even host Arcana Heart lobbies if people don't get too angry about getting hit by a combo.

How are you playing that, Parsec? I tried the netplay with a friend in the midwest and it was unplayable.

Nah we just boot it up and never skip the intros. I'm midwest and regularly played with either coast without issue.

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Why is skipping the intros a problem in a lot of games?

I assume it's just an easy way for the game to desync.

my hopium is that with the release of Ninja Gaiden 4 we'll get a new Dead or Alive game as well and hopefully they actually put time and resources into instead of making it a rush job like 6 ended up being.

Why bother when VV and its spinoff will make more money?

Look nigga, you have the best reach in the game asides from actual zoners, a LONG DP, fat projectiles, free oki/traps, a command grab, install super for better oki, overheads, and an anti-air button that literally covers 90% of the screen vertically. Just fucking press buttons. You have no excuse.

Because DOA is fun and VV aren't.

silver

You're literally in the shitter ranks

stretch that up to diamond

Es quite literally is for people who get tired of playing someone who takes even less brains in Mai.

I don't see it happening, and even if it does I don't see it being successful. I feel like Dead or Alive just has such an established reputation as 'that volleyball game for porn addicts' in the wider videogame community, and if it were just that that would be one thing, but a lot of fans of the series who will actually put down money for it, and a lot of money at that, will put down more for the gacha because those people don't want to play a fighting game. There isn't much incentive for them to make a new fighting game with its reputation being what it is when they can profit more off that reputation with the gacha, and any attempts to try to reshape the reputation the series has has blown up in their face in the past.

To be fair most of the overheads are very slow, 6A is especially easy to punish, and the same goes for the command grab.

es fireball is better then nu/lambda drive

saki ssie siusiaki

fightcade2

Even that isn't much of an upgrade considering how braindead Es still is.
You try blocking them consistently when you keep having to deal with her ring oki and let me know.
Probably so, I don't play any of those 3, but seeing how Lamnu's swords can be used offscreen in the corner for invisible mixups, along with wheel, I'm still giving the range to them.

Es is cool, but I wish I could do more damage

try Hakumen

shit how do I hit people

try Amane

how do I combo with this fucker

It’s over.

>Es is cool, but I wish I could do more damage

you press buttons and you get 2.8k dmg off any confirm

We can go even braindead'er.

but I wish I could do more damage

Allow me to introduce you to Susan.

he presses buttons and you get 3k+ off any confirm

Maybe I’m spoiled by other games and watching other players but 2.8k seems low. I know there’s the fatal combo off of a dashing attack that does more, but that’s fatal.

The move unlock thing seems weird to me. Although maybe I shouldn’t dismiss it, I mean I play Junpei in Persona and he doesn’t get good until he gets his install, then gets retard damage off anything.

no one hosts AACC because you gotta post your IP
unless you use concerto which masks it.

Unlocking seals looks more complex than it actually is. All of your routes you'll learn will route you into the seals you want.

Es

You get damage in mixups.

Hakumen

Literally press any of his C buttons and specials. Also 6B, or whatever the boot is.

Amane

You play exclusively the mid range.
Also you chip them to death.
5B. Also fuck you.

Being afraid to share your IP is fucking retarded and concerto doesn't hide shit.
In fact every fightan discloses your IP to the opponent. That's how networking works.

Hot damn, talk about being stuck between a rock and a hard place.

you realize there's actual fucking schizos on this site who obsess over other schizos right?

Sakura is coming to SF6 in S3, right?!

If you're scared about that you probably just shouldn't play with anons in general, those fucks will see a name and start obsessing over it like the obnoxious faggots they are.

You fucking idiot, they don't display your IP LIVE on the fucking game, do they? They'd have to go digging for that shit. Regardless, Melty on steam is like 2 bucks if you know where to look, just host a fucking lobby.
You are not nearly special or cute enough to be obsessed over, paranoid faggot.

Melty on steam is literally the inferior version.

and? people will recognize you by your posts, char, palette and playstyle without even needing to look at your IP.
or do you think some scary anon will hack your IP?

They'd have to go digging for that shit

anon, it's a single wireshark capture to get the destination IP. If someone cares, it doesn't make a difference whether it's melty or literally any other fightan.

Naotoanon, when you see the superflash for Bang's command grab you can do 421D on reaction and beat it every time.

Anon Babble tends to run away at the prospect of actually fighting people since they tend to prefer e-celeb cock fellating.

ok anons host your melty lobbies and make sure to use cccaster :)

No character is fun to fight against in modern games.

Asuka from Guilty Gear is fun to fight against.

It's the same game nigga, just lazily slapped together for online UI.
Or... you know.... jump. And punish.

when you see the superflash for Bang's command grab you can do 421D on reaction and beat it every time.

Why are you giving away your main weakness, are you retarded or something

steam aacc doesn't have rollback

because people should help each other out and foster a better playerbase, not hold people down so you can fulfill your shitty ego

Or... you know.... jump. And punish.

Better to DP the air version, even if you have an air action left the punish isn't guaranteed.

im hacking everone from that bb and strive lobby rn i got your ip

Turns out the guy who was scared of schizos wanting your IP was the guy who wanted your IP all along.

I IBed that

I know, my brain notices but my hands cannot react in time.

vfightan trannie lianaposting in this thread apparently

I will steal your ip

good you'll know which parking lot to meet me in

why do they want to steal my pee?

You're diabetic so it tastes really sweet.

plese don't steal my IP, my ISP recycles IPs only once every 24 hours, I'll spend the rest of the day without internet :(

fighting game characters that hack?

been playing nothing but REVO and fightcade. despite REVO having more numbers than fightcade games the game is dead as shit because it doesn't give me a nice list to find players. all i want is to play 2X and VF in peace but the japs had to fuck it all up

Is there a good Street Fighter anime?

half the roster in mugen

lucy kushinada in guilty gear soive :)

I feel like there is one explicitly who does that but I can't recall, or maybe I'm just thinking of Chaos from Uni who literally dresses like a generic geek hacker.
Isn't 5Revo getting crossplay soon? If it's also doing PS4, then those numbers should be pretty decent, definitely more than the most popular niche anime fighter, and definitely SNK fighters lol

I'll make this my last one. Great lobby, thanks for the games.

REVO is only active in Japan. It's obvious when you look at the player activity chart over time. Even something like SC6 probably has more players outside of Japan. Few Japs use Fightcade because they've been indoctrinated to fear piracy and anything "unofficial."

Isn't 5Revo getting crossplay soon?

yes but the numbers aren't the problem. it's the matchmaking. it doesn't work. there is no list lobby like +R/fightcade etc. there is just ranked (where the matchmaking breaks constantly) or literal SF4 era king of the hill rooms... where it doesn't show the connection until after you join the room. and no wifi indicator.

there is also an (((feature))) where if i set my delay to 3 (because the netcode kinda sucks) and you set yours to 0. everyones gets set to 0. so timmy's that don't understand how rollback works ruins the game for everyone.

outside of the netcode which is just kinda ass. it's the worst online system i have ever seen in a fighting game

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I play Asuka and I get a decent amount of ragequits so he can't be that fun to fight against. He's fun to play though.

Going to jump back into Tekken 8 when the next patch drops. And I hope S3 of SF6 won't be an utter shitshow, but I am not optimistic towards Capcom "balance" approach.

I still don't understand what they were thinking remastering a game from 2006 for a PC release with QOL from 2012 and RTX 3070 listed in recommended PC requirements.

SNK just made blunder after blunder. they fucked up absolutely everything aside from "make a pretty fun game for people who like fighting games"

you want to know the worst part. all they need to do is add in a list style lobby similar to fightcade that allowed for quick matches... wanna know whats even worse anon.... THIS WAS REMOVED FROM REVO. FINAL SHOWDOWN LITERALLY HAD THIS ALONG WITH REPLAYS AND CUSTOMS. THIS ALREADY EXISTED AND THEY REMOVED IT!!!!

GGs.

Who is this

i liked Street Fighter 2 V

BGs.

Now that you mention it, SC5 also had something similar: an online mode called "Colosseum" where there was a big lobby for each region and people were free to challenge one another. And it's also missing from SC6.

unique

Yeah, I dunno. They're probably not gonna change that shit because I guess it costs too much money. They probably have a skeleton team working on Revo too while every main dev is on VF6. And they're definitely using this crossplay as a testing ground and are probably more concerned with that running smoothly than the lobby UI.
Is there a SINGLE fighting game that has an actually flawless, no room for suggestions lobby system? I can't think of any.

I'll do one more then I need to close the lobby and make dinner.

GAH DUU

I really don’t like using discord but I might try that.

Is good for improving your gameplay mostly because it features aftermatch chat, unlike the shitty ingame one with the constant ghostings, so you can ask your opponent something about the match and they will likely give you a helpful tip like this guy , way better than jumping through wikis every 2 minutes

Lobby is closed, GGs all.

Tekken 8 sucked so hard it killed all Fighting Games for me.

I've started getting consistent matches after joining the Discord. I hate that it's the only way to get consistent matches in less popular games now. I only stick to the matchmaking channels so I don't see any weird shit being posted

Must be slim pickings for 3D fighting players

The only thing you should worry about is getting influenced by discord FGC linguistics.

Deserved for the censorfaggotry and other normalfag pandering like le funny soccer man (who they all hate now). Hope they lost a lot of money.

Didn't Ronaldo just leave the Saudi Arabian football team too?

SFV sucked so bad i started playing Tekken 7

Tekken 8 sucked so bad i no longer have anything to play

I'm gone after 2XKO ends up being a piece of garbage

Never fear bros, the SAVIOR™®© is here.

doesn't even have a release month yet

It's not an IP I care about so I'm not really interested

i went back to street fighter thanks to garbage 8

Every bit of footage of this game looks like shit.

It needs Nobunaga

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i thought nobunaga was supposed to be black o algo

Wtf is black o algo

Grubbas, are you enjoying the titty monster dragon?

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I have not played her yet but she looks fun. Just gonna keep practicing Narmaya in the mean time.

I only play one character, but I don't like playing against her because I'm terrible at fighting grapplers. Also her meteor being a low mindfucks me every time I get hit by it.

It's crazy how much money the saudis poured into marketing this game, and it still sold like dookie.
They marketed it to all the wrong groups of people. I kept seeing them stuff it in boxing matches, but I'm like, boxing fans don't give a fuck about Fatal Fury.

Anyways, what's the single-player like for City of the Wolves?
My favorite thing about the Fatal Fury games pre-Real Bout as well as Mark of the Wolves is that the story is at least somewhat engaging -- the characters certainly are at least. I would imagine a modern Fatal Fury would tap into that even more since It's more acceptable nowadays.

but she looks fun

She is.
I'm having a hard time getting into the right mindset to play her, because her tools are different from all the other characters I play, and I need to adjust my fight plan when I play as her.

Narmaya

An excellent choice.
I feel she has to work a lot with the whole stance switching thing, but it seems like it actually pays off so that's nice.

Also her meteor being a low mindfucks me every time I get hit by it.

kek same
Even when you know it's a low, just the fact that it's another thing you have to keep in mind can be a big factor in terms of mental stack.

As someone starting to play fighting games in my late 20's, is it too late for me to git gud?
I don't mean get up to tournament level, idc about that, but whenever I practice, I feel like I can't even do basic combos well. My reactions feel slow and I just generally suck -- especially at any non-shoto.

I feel I wouldn't mind if I were a teenage and my brain were still a sponge, but it feels like skill acquisition is already slowed way the fuck down at my age.

I'm having a hard time getting into the right mindset to play her, because her tools are different from all the other characters I play, and I need to adjust my fight plan when I play as her.

I know what you mean, Shermie in KOFXV kinda threw me for a loop when learning her and the game but nothing a little bit of practice won't solve. The dive kick grab Galleon is rocking seems so wacky, I love it.

I feel she has to work a lot with the whole stance switching thing, but it seems like it actually pays off so that's nice.

Definitely does and it's a lot of fun to switch between the two for not only different special moves but normals as well. Need to get accustomed to it still since I haven't really put a whole lot of time into GBVS as of yet but still a lot of fun.

I feel like I can't even do basic combos well.

Blud, combos are gonna be the least of your problems

Late 20s is basically senility. You'll never gain any new skills again in your LIFE. It's over old man.

That's what I'm saying though.
If I can't even execute basic combos, what hope do I have at beating even intermediate players?

I play Soriz because he's literally me, at least mentally

Yes but what game are you playing

Truly a game for tr00ns

some of the top FG players are over 30 and reaching 40. They have years of experience of course. But if you're capable of learning, then you should be able to get decent at FGs.

Literally any, but most notably I've been trying to play SF3, 6, and Tekken 8.

But those guys are using muscle memory they've developed since childhood playing fighting games, haven't they?
Most elite boxers are in their 30's, but in that sport, if you didn't start when you were ~10, It's over for you.

Holy shit Testament is so overtuned this season

I started last year and I do absolutely fine now. I'll have the occasional slip up when doing combos but I started being unable to do basic links.

Elite boxers in their '30

Pros usually retire between 35 and 40

"I don't mean get up to tournament level, idc about that"

the shit you just said

i thought you just wanted to get decent at a basic level but it's already over for you

Zappa is like that for me

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The only thing Testament got in S4 is longer stain duration, stain pop on throw and more disjoint on Grave Reaper, there's barely any difference from S3
There's characters magnitudes more overtuned than Testament
Ram went from a better Testament to an even better Testament, Goldlewis got buffs for no fucking reason, HC still runs multiple mixups on your ass in exchange for existing in neutral, Potemkin is retarded strong this patch and took full advantage of the damage nerfs

Umm if a character isn't top 3 she can't be strong

The fuck are you on about
The listed changes are not only massive Testament gets way, way more fucking results than half the characters you just listed

Fg are so over

The only two alive games are Tekken and slime, but Tekken sucks right now and no one wants to play slime

It's so over

Testament is a guy with long hair

I don't even play either of those

I don't know about any other games, but +R is still very much alive. So there's 3 options right there.

do people really react to kabutori

do you think we all magically knew how to play the moment our hands were on the stick?
you're a beginner, combos need some foundations, you should be wiring your brain to functions on your preferred controller

Testament gets way, way more fucking results than half the characters you just listed

Zero Testaments at AWT
One Testament Top 50 at Evo Japan
Two Testaments Top 50 at Combo Breaker

Evo Japan had fucking 4 people in Top 8 playing Happy Chaos, what the fuck are you even talking about

+R is not alive, to be entitled to be called alive game you need to be AT LEAST SF6 levels of players

COTW has the best story, interaction between characters... of the last years in the "campaign mode" aka EOST Mode.
All of this behind an ugly and boring presentation.

Traveling through the map, fighting and dialogues after dialogues and little sequences.
But if you pay attention, the dialogues are incredibly well written, full of references and mind-blowing pieces of lore. It's a love letter to the Fatal Fury / Art of Fighting world.
Too bad they didn't bother to make a 3D world or something to make it more bearable because it is rewarding as fuck.

Arcade mode is serviceable and it closes Fatal Fury story in the different endings.

Do you know what half actually means

I think you might need around csgo numbers before you can consider something alive

That's too much for a fighting game, a fg only needs like 50k players atleast

Whoa, he is LITERALLY me! !1!

HIYA

you are a pedantic little fuck and you fully deserve to be stuck blocking the world's shittiest grave reaper pressure in the corner like the bitch you are

then none of them are alive outside of japan's sf6 scene.

Imagine seething this hard about someone saying your main is strong

Literally me

its crazy but i literaly look like this irl lol

The only two alive games are Tekken and slime

Only if you are some kind of zoomie who NEEDS thousands of people online. Plenty of games are more than active enough to log in and find matches without resorting to Discord or anything.

Now tell us how many "broken" Pot players were then comperatively

We already have Elena and Mai, give me Makoto and I can have some fucking happiness in my life.

playing blazblue lately and from the moment I boot up the game I start coughing and sweating like I'm sick or something, it's rough

Literally me, except I hate Ken more

im afrad you are allergic to blazblue

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Blaz gives you AIDS confirmed.

Okay, cool anon. You just convinced me to at least give City of the Wolves a shot.

wtf theres a blazpoo that looks like THAT?

Mahvel Viper

Based
Great image. Who's the artist? Gives me Nishimura vibes but with less polish.

Got CoTW and feel like a shitter because im getting clowned on left and right by most players. Should I just go back to Terry and Rock, they're easy.

Also I mighf just go buy XV. This roster is kind of dumb..who are a real life DJ and soccer player here.
I wanted to get back into fighters but Tekken 8 and SF6 are so boring to me, and button mashy.

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Why use Answer as a placeholder instead of Slayer's Xrd model?

I still can't believe Hershuar is not a porn artist. This is an injustice against humanity.

COTW has the best story, interaction between characters

lol

I wanted to get back into fighters but Tekken 8 and SF6 are so boring to me, and button mashy.

You can always install fightcade again.

Not going to play COTW but I remember Beta tier list Hotaru was one of the worst characters in the game. Now she's Number 1? What the fuck changed lmao

I won't tell you

Versatility

Because who the fuck cares it;s for no animation placeholder stuff to be tried in house
Answer was also one of the last characters to be added so maybe he's better developed behind the curtains, making it easier

huh

To be fair, betafags didn't have training mode available, and her most damaging options come out of her rev cancel combos.
But, even though her "base" damage is low, she still have the best fireball of the game, the best strike/throw mix with her command grab, a divekick and everything else

Literally every option she has is a contender for the best in class with how overtuned they are and...
She has every single possible fucking tool in the game except a teleport

"sword" haha

Maybe I should've just bought COTW on launch.... I was scared of another XV moment happening....

Got MK extra large as gift

GPU died

Bought arcana heart

Dpad went to shit and I have no fucking idea of what I'm doing

Already amazing year. Back to KOF I guess.

I have an urge to reinstall BBTAG. I haven't played that since before the DLC came out, and I am quite bad at tag fighters in general. But I did like it.

day 1 tier lists are always wacky

play street fighter iii 3rd strike

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Arcana Heart might actually just be a software/hardware issue. I had sound issues and controllers swapping itself to P2 and not registering every now and then.

It's been a month now and the only thing that makes people even think she might not be top 1 is Hokutomaru and Kain also being that strong, she is still stupid as fuuuck

BBTAG is on sale for 10 bucks and I quite literally am only interested in it character interactions because everyone on YT has the terrible english voices on.

Pot, ABA and Elphelt aren't actually that strong compared to certain characters but they absolutely deserve getting nerfed into the ground way more than others

Just pirate it if you don't fucking care about the actual game dumbass

Marco is also better than her.
She is the most honest character of the top tiers.

Sixstars is definitely not coded so great. It's got a lot of little problems like that.
My favorite is I can't shut it down cleanly. Everytime I close it, it just pbbt and crashes instead, on more than one PC/OS at that.

Nice desu ne

Where do people pirate fighting games these days?

lol

You know, I think im good, even for 10 bucks..

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exactly where you would pirate normal games

In Strive? I don't think ABA or Elphelt really need to be nerfed, ABA feels reasonable enough overall, the only thing about her I'd really like to see nerfed is the JR door super because it's really belligerent and Elphelt sucks in Strive, as in she's a boring and lame character, but I don't think nerfing her is going to change that, her moveset just conceptually is lame. Potemkin does need to be nerfed though.

even rivals of aether 2 has a higher daily peak

7 months after release to CotW's 1

i thought people were praising CotW

You should know the drill by now of what happens when this board praises a fighter like mad before it even released by comparing it recent popular games. Or when said game is made by snk.

ABA needs some adjustments, she's really strong in jealous rage and completely helpless in normal mode, and it makes for matches that can be kinda boring

Elphelt is mad annoying, I don't understand why a rushdown character has access to a tracking projectile and a two-step setplay tool that either gives extra conversions or makes her plus. Also I don't think she should get to cancel her rekka on whiff.
I don't know if I'd call her strong.

Pot absolutely deserves to get shot. He got buffed to a good point in S3, then got compensation buffs in exchange for karas (which would have still made him good), people whined so he got to keep the compensation buffs and karas, and on top of that, he came out on top with the defense buffs.
It is flat out absurd how hard this character got buffed.

get curious what kind of promo material SNK has been putting out since it launched

they're busy shitting out low-quality music collabs

Is this the saudi prince at work again? The fuck is going on over there?

Release Granblue Rising tier balance is not a good thing, especially when characters aren't even close to being that unique in the first place

my theory is that one exec has been bigheaded since they got saudi money and shot for far higher than Fatal Fury could ever achieve
and that's why he got fired

I don't know, I feel like people tend to victimize SNK or other companies working under the orders of some other company or body when they talk about stuff like this which isn't my intent, but I have a hard time picturing guys at SNK saying we need Ronaldo and Ganacci and whatever the fuck the boxing thing with the e-celebs was. Seems much more likely to have come from the prince with his money to burn.

Doesn't seem like they got fired yet. This is stuff their official channel's been throwing up the past couple weeks.

Ronaldo I could see, because they can't be oblivious to their south american audience. It's too much of a meme.
Ganacci is 100% outside influence though. That guy's music is fucking rank garbage you would've heard in the 90s, when house was out but trance hadn't hit yet, and the djs who weren't going all-in on breaks didn't know what the fuck to do yet.

I'm going to get flamed hard for posting this list but when you get it going:

Samurai Shodown 2

Garou: Mark of the Wolves

JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Heritage for the Future

Street Fighter III: Third Strike

Marvel vs. Capcom 2

Many flavors of fight for you. Pretty sure if you want any Guilty Gear it's still on there or able to be emulated with netplay using a non-Fightcade option.

Seems much more likely to have come from the prince with his money to burn.

it should be the case, but the prince is a huge fan, and a huge fan doesn't want guests in his fighting game, he wants the characters he loves
and I can't see them being such marketing morons

Are there any fighting games that are fun to play solo? Or is the whole idea always about competing against other people?

Soul Calibur 3 for me

Red Earth is meant to be played solo
now, I can't guarantee the fun part

nen impact would sell so much more if it was $30

How active is fightcade stuff? Just wondering as someone who has no idea about it really besides that it exists.

it should be the case, but the prince is a huge fan, and a huge fan doesn't want guests in his fighting game, he wants the characters he loves

Says who

ask any huge fan

BRO YOU ONLY NEED ONE OTHER PERSON TO PLAY FIGHTING GAMES

If you're going in planning to find someone learning the game at equal skill, you're gonna have a
bad
fucking time

I think he's just not as huge a fan as you think. Even if we give him the benefit of the doubt, I see 'huge fans' of games make retarded suggestions for those games all the time.

guilty gear sign and rev and all that, they all have a really long story mode
but personally I enjoy the older games' survival mode, mission mode, and simpler story mode
I don't think you even unlock illustrations in the newer games
of course that's only like idk 40 hours tops

You can't generalize a category of people like that, especially not when the specific person in question is a billionaire prince who spent his entire life doing whatever the fuck he wants
Thinning he's somehow beholden to the purity of the series is laughable

Soul Calibur II story mode
KoF XIII trials
Rivals of Aether 2 because the movement is fun

i like guilty gear because you can just mash butons and dont really need to know combos

Release Granblue Rising tier balance

It can't be that bad. Nier was the only character DPing into 60% midscreen.

Is that even true when gatlings have never been more dead than now?

Playin

Doujin fighter maker games, fightcade later

waifu

the one and only.

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why grubble is so fucking boring the onlly fun character is that rat girl and she is dogshit tier

I only played vanilla Granblue but I can't believe its enjoyed any kind of success at all because it was so dull on a fundamental level it's hard to imagine Rising changing it.

I think it's pretty fun
What do you dislike about it?

Vanillafags fucking HATE Rising
I never played the original but just looking at videos of it I understand completely; it IS the same base game, sort of, but the amount and type of changes they did to it really add up,

some people enjoy simplicity rather than complex games. one of the major draws of the game besides anime waifus is that it's baby's first fighter after all

It's not that I'm opposed to simplicity inherently, though it's not really a draw for me either, vanilla Granblue was just really boring still. SamSho 7 came around the same time, as I recall, and I remember enjoying that much more as a stripped back fighting game, and I'm not even a SNKfag.

to be honest samsho is only snk game with good designs so you care more about the character you play instead of goober with jeans and jacket #42432 in kof

Mai belongs to SF now

SF6 unironically did her better than in Garou lol

Mai in SF6: Literally the best she's ever looked period

CoTW: Shit

actually true.

One of many reasons Strive did and is doing so well to this day because it's combo system and specific kind of gatlings being a form of mash people like much more.

Even setting aside visuals, I was really pleased with how varied the characters felt mechanically in SamSho. Stuff like Shizumaru's TAP, Yoshitora's 7th sword or even just Yashamaru's double jump showed that even a simple game can have distinct characters, which I did not really feel with vanilla GBVS, but maybe the characters in it stand out more now.

that's solid snake dressed up as ryu

No, that is not Solid Snake!

She looks better in KoF XIII, KoF XV and CvS 2
Being the only non-grotesque character in Dix does not mean that's the best she has ever looked.

What, you mean mashing S? Because it felt like there was no reason to mash P or K at all. I'm aware they're not useless buttons but when you're a beginner, they feel useless.

Gonna re read that one. Palhaniuk is a fag but he sure can write

KoF XIII

Off model

KoF XV

Lol, even her MI model is better

CvS 2

the only decent pick here

>KoF XIII

Off model

Nothing in a mainline KoF game can be "off model"

KoF XV

Lol, even her MI model is better

Yeah, nah, fuck off.

KoF13 looks like fucking dogshit anon, every character looks completely off-model take off the goggles

Whatever m8
Mai in SF6 looks good, that is literally the one good thing I can say about that piece of shit so let's just leave it at that.

I fucking love Project Justice and that I can play it online but fighting a Roy in visible rollback frames is nightmarish.

For real, I don't know how anyone can look at Ralf and Clark in that game, and come away with a positive opinion.
Poor bastards look like they got flattened by a trash compactor. They're some of the most fucked proportions you're ever gonna see in a 2d fighter, and that includes budget western ones.

For me it's that piece of shit Athena sprite. Never gonna understood people who praised that game as some pinnacle of 2d all these years.

XIII is praised for the fluidity and detail on such large sprites, whereas the closest analogues were ArcSys 2D games which had way less frames of animation and just had super strong keyframes they'd linger on instead. However that effect came from rotoscoping 3D models which were obviously really poorly-made given the proportions, and that also lead to a very anemic and plain roster (no Mai in XII, obscure characters added for the sake of being easy like Hwa Jai using Joe's body, simplified designs like Mature & Vice getting simple black suits, XIII's DLC all being sprite reuse with minor visual differences outside of visual effects). XIII also uses a lot of visual effects that add to how it looks (HD Mode trails, particle effects, the lighting on each stage which affects the sprites) which helps it look better in motion, and the stages while not on par with the VERY best of the Neo Geo are all really beautiful and lively.

It wasn't worth the 2nd bankruptcy but despite the fucked up proportions and cutbacks the game looks good in motion.

American influencers.

It is the best she's ever looked but Juri existing makes everyone look bad in comparison. Mai is good looking, especially in SF6, but she's not Juri.

hating on thick thighs Athena

I knew I was dealing with people with shit taste but holy fuck...

ArcSys also used rotoscoping. The biggest difference imo is that ASW majorly tweaks the shading.

Anon, this is this week's TNS scores.

And this is the one before it. There might be a pattern.

Thinking back to when the beta was out and anons said Kain wasn't top tier

And the one before that.

GET THAT NINJA OUT OF MY HEAD, this nigga and mai in sf6 are so fucking unfun to fight holy shit

And how is that not normal for a new fighting game? Look at the early SF6 results, it's 50% JP.

Mobile ninja pixie character does best by just zoning you out effortlessly into just appearing next to you for a free launch occasionally

Yeah I dunno what they were thinking about these two

Early SF6 was unironically not this bad, no. I'm gonna stop posting CotW crap, maybe I'll try finding early SF6 data instead.

Damn they got Chipp in this game? Might have to try it since he’s not in strive.

In no fucking way you played Chipp like that, why the fuck do posers feel the need to jump in on conversations like this

Ganaccibros...

Second month's top 100 rankings in comparison to this

I don’t know how the cotw ninja plays, does he only zone you? Chipp has gamma blade and big normals to control space and literally has a teleport.

I'm surprised how unpopular Tizoc is considering how annoying grapplerfags are about games not having grapplerfag representation.

That's not a popularity list, this is

more popular than Mai

What the FUCK

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Might have to try it since he’s not in strive.

Dude he was in the base game

Mai is an old hag

Ah yes, here it is
the ultimate proof that tacked on celeb guests don't sell games

The whole thing is it’s not actually him but a fan of his from the Eastern Chipp Kingdom copying him. That’s why his outfit looks wrong and he’s less skilled.

I thought he just got clean so he couldn't tweak out like he used to

Tizoc got nerfed since the 2nd beta so he is not good. Hotaru is the better grappler since her command grab is better.

CotW made me forget that B Jenet existed

I want to buy Street Fighter 6 version for Switch 2 did you think is worth it?

He was long clean since the first guilty gear

No man I've fought +R Chipp bro was snorting jet fuel you can't fool me

mogged by a horny little girl

Guess it's time for /ourguy/'s retirement, Tizocbros...

if the leaks are true i hope he's not worse than manon and lily

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You take that back!
She is youthful and full of energy

That’s the result of his ninja training. And that’s the first hint it’s not Chipp that appears in Strive, but a loyal follower who wants to become like him but isn’t there yet. Daisuke takes a very “show don’t tell” approach to his writing.

She looks younger than Chun at least

They'd need to make his command normals really fucking bad to not make them really powerful with DR. Imagine getting frame trapped into DR b.HP because you expected Power Bomb. He's also definitely going to have more routes in Heavy Chop due to Punish Counter and DR as well.

He's gonna be a scrub killer just like Marisa, especially if they keep his stomp. Not as relevant from master and onwards, however.

everyone claims it feels like old fighting games (tm)

they did the same thing for DNF (my beloved) only to drop it immediately and begin the slander arcs

Never

WE FUCKING WON STRIVECHADS

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I can't fucking deal with jab unga. When I fight Gold/Diamond players I feel like I just have to eat their mix ups because I don't think there's anything that can tardy fast enough that won't end with me just eating a combo. Granted I'm just a Silver pleb so it's not like I'm that good.

That said I did somehow make two niggers ragequit today including a Hideo (sidenote I fucking hate that character) because I guess they couldn't deal with getting SNAP'd.

Don’t know if I’d say it feels like old games necessarily but it definitely lacks the corporate and forced feel that sf6 and strive had.

That's called "polish", though I can't really expect eighting shit-eaters to be familiar with the word.

Nah it’s called honesty. Strive and sf6 are very dishonest games, created with no intent other than monetization and mass appeal. Neither competitive integrity nor fun were taken into account. Nen impact does not look competitive but it’s definitely fun.

cotw has the same balance as motw

snkbros... how could this hsppen?

CotW has more competitively viable character's than MotW's 3 (Grant, Kain and Kevin)

cotw somehow made an even more boring version of mai than sf6
i just want kof15 mai's moveset

As far as the top tier jabs go like Roy and Kyoko you do kind of have to take the mix if you don't want to take a risk yourself. The second they start throwing in more than just jab dash jab you have more options depending on what character you play. One common option to deal with dash jabs is to just hold up/back and chicken block the string.

strive is dumb fun to play every now and then

Eighting kuso

fun

Got tricked by you fags twice, one with MvC3 and again with DNF Duel.

the top 5 games have players 24/7 more obscure stuff may not
i really do not understand the pre release glazing that dnf got. there were people who though they going to add entire new mechanics after the beta.
with that said i actually like what hxh is doing a lot, if nothing else they made a fighting game that Anon Babble can actually play as if you niggers dont dodge every game

Baked a new bread

I can't complain too much as a fellow Silver shitter who plays Kyoko but damn Roy is as ignorant as I've heard. His shoulder charge feels like one of the only specials in the game you NEED to TC to punish despite how good it is as a neutral/punish tool.

I can give you DNF but UMvC3 is the best fighting game of all time. Nen Impact won't touch it but it really looks like the kind of game 8ing were making in the mid-late 00s but with a bunch of mechanics from their Vs Capcom games stapled to it; DNF had that feel at first but the lack of good mobility alongside checkmate situations being a little too common kneecapped it.