Truth Nuke, correct me if I'm wrong

But I think that nostalgia for video games is actually a form a depression.
You're romanticizing about old games instead of looking forward to new games.

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It's not romanticization if those games were actually good, especially not if they were better than the shit we're getting now.

I feel pity for plebs who think "new games suck". They simply do not know where or how to find games to play. They require spoonfeeding at all times.

That being right or wrong is irrelevant to modern games being shit.

Its just a midlife crisis. Boomers spend ridiculous money buying sports cars. Millennials buy boxed copies of Pokemon.

Post some good games

N-no, that's spoon-

Then go away

why is it so hard for people to understand that some things were better in the past? Its like they actively try to deny it.

I think you're depressed. And what you're posting is projection.

I was 7, I don't think it's possible to feel like I did when I was 7 ever again.

More than 20 years later

Pokemon towns are still just a handful of 1-room buildings and wandering NPCs with one line of dialog

Battles are more dumbed down than ever

Level design is more linear than ever

The future sucks

Truth Nuke, correct me if I’m wrong
You’re a good person

cant name any good new games

Every time.

In monster movies there's a concept; never show the monster. The fear of the unknown is always greater than the fear of the thing. It's the same thing here. Older games couldn't show you the world because of hardware limitations, so your brain would have to fill in the gaps. The world could be limited by only your imagination. Modern games are so realistic there's no room for that; they show you the full monster.

Old games were "better" because it easier to fill in the gaps with them.

I love it when you silly boys are so butt hurt! :3

trvke: pokemon was never that good

Give me some new games that are better than Pokemon Silver.

People like things based on how strong the emotions they experienced were when the things happened. Applies to everything. Games, music, people, places.

The world IS getting shittier, and dramatically, so it's only natural that nostalgia would be a stronger force than normal. It's not as though adults can't be charmed by new things. It's just that there's virtually nothing that even attempts to do so. We've reached the end game where profit >>> everything else, including building loyal customers beyond the next quarterly earnings report.

What is this manner of preemptively playing victim? I would give recs, but if you're going to be all bad faith and dickish about it, no wonder this must happen to you often enough that you make shitposts like that. Tell me, if I post a chart spoonfeeding you stuff, will you reply to it and say "all shit"? Will you skim it, name like three games from it, and say "I didn't like this. Okay I am dismissing the entire list now"? Because that's the vibe I'm getting from you plebs.

Everything is better than Pokeshit be more specific.

Everything is better than Pokeshit be more specific.

Ok but let's say you're talking to someone that thinks Pokemon Silver is the greatest game of all time, what games are better?

An intel xeon E5-2670 would have been a beast for its time in 2012, but it now gets worse performance than any modern i3 while consuming 1/10 of the power.
Old games are the same, there are exceptions but pokemon isn't one, there's no story that would age well, it's a game for children, there's no good gameplay, it's the most rudimentary form of turn based fighting with no nuance or special quirks that would even put it on the same level as megami games.
The soundtrack is good and the art was fine on a microscopic handheld when they came out.
Of course modern games aren't good just because they're modern, but implementing new mechanics and learning from decades of evolution isn't something to be taken from granted, try going from yakuza on the ps2 to lost judgment and tell me how anything but nostalgia is on yakuza's side.
A game is based on GAMEPLAY, movie games come out and their GAMEPLAY is still 100x better than most old games.
TLOU2 has one of the most immersive fighting and stealth levels but nobody here will aknowledge that because they have autism.

its a game for children. youre supposed to be busy with adult hobbies, a job and raising children.

People have been saying this since ancient times, yet the world continues to exist

instead of looking forward to new games.

You can play old games that you have never played before and they are still gonna be better than new games.

Some Pokemon romhacks, I suppose. My actual answer would be you have to be 18 to post here.

I'm older than you. What games would you tell a normal person to play?

Because all you did was shitpost instead of taking a chance by posting some games you like. Your post had no value. It deserved mockery.

Someone with down syndrome thinking pokemon silver is the greatest game of all time doesn't impact the quality of any other game. Retarded question.

can't name a single game that's better

grim

Being for children does not excuse low quality. Other "children's franchises" have evolved with time. It's just Pokemon that's remained behind the times.

Something being for children doesn't give the creator an excuse to half-ass it.

Those first three generations were all very good JRPGs 4 kidz, and the multiplayer is even still pretty fun.

Low effort OPs get low effort replies. OP deserved mockery, and because he didn't ask for specific recs I did not offer any.

Had you played any game in the past decade you wouldn't need to get spoonfed by anonymous. Autistic/underage or both?

Everything is better than Pokeshit be more specific.

Then it should be the easiest fucking thing to actually name something you retard.

still dodging the question

grim

Retarded take. Replay them see why they are good.

I can play an old game I missed out on and get 10x the enjoyment I get from some new AAA garbage

New game suck. They’re only useful as background stimulation while watching and listening to actually interesting 5 hour video essays

lmao pokemon was never good

It took over the world once. In order to do that, a series has to be good.

Shit can't become popular. It can become shit later, but nothing that was shit from the beginning has ever been successful.

I've played all my favorites games as an adult 21 yo

act combative and arrogant

surprised when nobody wants to fulfill your requests

You claim not to be underaged yet you have the manners of a child

It is an active denial to cope. They literally just can't handle the idea that life is not a straight upward line of constant improvement in every area.

Pokemon towns are still just a handful of 1-room buildings and wandering NPCs with one line of dialog

Aren't they not even this anymore. Pokemon centres aren't even buildings anymore, they're just an open air stand in the middle of nowhere for no reason.

Being for children is completely irrelevant, what target audience a piece of media is aimed at has absolutely zero effect on its quality

you also believe that fifa, genshin and fortnite are the best games ever right?

remembering things is form a depression

You see, nostalgia is just depression

ur a fagot

All you people will just reply "all shit" because you never want to have your mind changed, you do not want to enjoy vidya, you just want to stew and stay angry.

Just name a game, retard.
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You btw

You wear diapers

I haven't bought a single new western AAA game since Mass Effect 3. And by the looks of things, I'm not gonna buy one any time soon.

Shitposters BTFO
Nostalgiadrones BTFO

Which one is better than Pokemon Silver? Pick one.

trvke

everything looks like a depression when you are at the top of the world

still can't name one

had to find jpg that somebody else made

JUST NAME A FUCKING GAME THAT'S BETTER THAN POKEMON SILVER SO WE CAN START THIS FUCKING THREAD

All of them.

You prove my point. You never wanted recs. You just want to argue. You will never be happy.

you will too one day faggot

God damn look at all that slop, and people said AAA was bad..

I don’t think it’s depression. All people’s throughout all times have reminisced in supposed halcyon periods. It’s only natural that the modern man would fondly remember the days where things were good.

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the only games that exist are western AAA

You're a retard.
Shut up you retard.

I don't really like Pokemon, basically just a hyperloop of JRPG "gameplay" and it's not really satisfying once you're past puberty.

For me? It's boomer shooters.
Beyond Citadel was based

replies exactly as predicted

huh. you people are actual NPCs.

All those games are made for weirdos like you. Im still playing pokemon crystal on my miyoo mini

You forgot the part where every single aspect of the outside world was also on the hype train for this crazy phenomenon where even fucking Home Depot had pokemon merchandise for the kids while dad was getting lumber.

The malls constantly had those stalls for pokemon, every billboard had pokemon, it was fucking everywhere and we were THE target audience for it. It was as part of the real world as pokemon go pretends to be now. You severely downplay how unique this was, nothing like it had ever happened before and nothing like it has ever happened since.

I remember my first dopamine hit!

Try something new. Maybe video games really are ass.

Ultimately what they want to recapture is unobtainable, because it's not just games being good it's also the context of being a child (unfettered, innocent, unconcerned)
There's nothing wrong with looking back on your childhood, but pining for it endlessly is just a refusal to grow.

TROON

nostalgia is retarded
a game is either good or it's not
you can play games from that era and if they're good, you'll enjoy them as much as you did back then

simple as that
pokemon games aren't good

Go ahead and educate me on what makes each game slop.
Individually. No blanket responses, I want a slop synopsis for each game.

”NOOOOO STOP HAVING HAPPY MEMORIES!!! YOU NEED TO CARE ABOUT CURRENT YEAR TOPICS LIKE PALESTINA AND ASSASINS CREED SHADOWS!!”

These past 5 years, I cannot find a single thing that has improved. Even in prior bad times, some things got better even if it was collectively a downturn. Covid ruined everything, forever.

Nobody is saying that those games are the best, but they at some point where objectively good in some regard, I can speak from anecdotal experience but up to FIFA 15/16 those games were solid, especially shit like FIFA street.

Pokemon suffers from the same shit as the Simpsons, has sucked for so long that we forgot when was ever good.

schizo quoting nobody

are children getting stupider as time goes on or something? it was always a game for children, it became the most popular game in the world for children with its initial release, it has since been made easier, which means they intend to target an audience stupider or younger than the one they had during global pokemania.

Is zoomers anon, they objectively have nothing to have nostalgia for, the feeling is alien to them, they were born in chaos and know nothing else, is almost pitiful.

IF YOU WANT TO RECAPTURE YOUR YOUTH YOU'RE JUST REFUSING TO GROW UP

STOP TRYING TO BE HAPPY YOU FUCKING RETARD, HAPPINESS IS FOR CHILDREN

MGS2's stealth gameplay is far more fun than TLOU2

half are just repeats of each other

pumped out early access games en mass, just look at all of them

Synopsis for each one? you're not worth that effort indie shill

The industry hasn't been the same since Cyberpunk 2077 came out

The industrial revolution has been a new beast for humanity you cannot compare ancient times to now.

Battles are more dumbed down than ever

Objectively not true, if something the battle system being more robust is part of the reason why the game has not been able to evolve further, lets see what happens with the "Official Showdown" they're launching next year, maybe they will experiment more on mainline and leave the "serious battles" limited to that platform.

You're allowed to have nostalgia, but you don't let it poison you.
If videogames don't make you happy, find something that does instead of beating your fists bloody on the wall of impossibility.

If nothing makes you happy then go shoot someone. Yourself, someone else, I don't care.
Just shut the fuck up you sooky cunt.

Yeah, you don't sound like an insane, retarded cunt at all.
That was sarcasm since I'm guessing you probably can't pick up on social cues.
You're a complete donut, get some help.

Which ones are repeats, and which ones are early access?

I had never seen Back to the Future before last year.
This isn't some contrarian or sheltered thing, I'd seen most 'big' movies, this was just one of the most notable ones that had escaped my view my whole life through sheer coincidence. It popped up somewhere, probably for the millionth time because everybody's heard of Back to the Future, and I finally said 'I've never actually sat down and watched this, let's give it a try'

The point I'm making here is I don't have some deep-seated nostalgia, some fond memories of being a carefree child and Back to the Future defining my life. I can't particularly recall Michael J Fox from anything except being a sad cripple, and Christopher Lloyd to me was just that great supporting actor in Addams Family.

The magic was real. I was enthralled by the whole fucking thing, and I immediately grabbed the second and third as well. What they did, what all the old classic blockbusters did was so ineffable and impossible to reproduce; they weren't soul-searching high art but every moment of them was just a well-oiled machine interfaced to "click" with the human psyche.

I didn't "grow up with it"

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No mate, I'm serious. Either go on a spree, kill yourself, or find a hobby that satisfies you.
It's better than sitting here being cucked by life as your hobbies are fucked by people you hate while you seethe in the corner.

I can't tell if I'm watching two aussies fight or one aussie and a britbong

You're talking about a good movie in a thread where people are talking about a shit game (pokemon)

Agreed, it is a sickness to continually think of the past that one cannot move on. But that in and of itself proves how intoxicating it is that so many people are driven to look back

Anon, Covid didn’t end anything. If you feel that way you sincerely need to grow up.

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No mate, I'm serious. You're fucked in the head on top of being an unlikable twat.
Let me get out of that corner though so you can sit there with your dunce cap on and reflect on what a dickhead you've been.

new games are mostly bad

YOU SHOULD GO COMMIT MURDER THEN

You're the living embodiment of the I AM SILLY comic.

This dipshit couldn't even name one game when asked , why the fuck are you expecting an explanation for every game in the picture?

I don't think all new games suck, I just think its asking a lot for me to pay way to much for a game that has basically nothing for content and I'm supposed to get down on my knees and praise the devs for letting me choose between body type 1 and body type 2 but npcs don't refer to me as such genders.
I shouldn't have to wait for all the dlc to come out for all the bugs to be fixed,
I shouldn't have to deal with people pushing their ideology onto me.
I should be able to buy a game, play it and enjoy it.

I didn't "grow up with it"

You did. You're lying to yourself. ANY modern show on Netflix is better than that trite, but you're lying to appeal to your nostalgia.

Netflix's Live-Action Death Note is better than Back to the Future

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Completely ignores where I posit the sensible "Find Another Hobby" option and just focuses on the hyperbolic Shut The Fuck Up answer.

You can either get busy dying or stay there crying.

Also who sobs about stupid shit on Anon Babble posted for shock value?
Fuck off to xitter, nigger.

"posted for shock value"

implying your shit posts have value

Anon...

it literally says 'no early access' and 'full releases'. you loser shitposters aren't even literate.

You're suppose to be busy being a good goy

need to grow up

You need to stop shilling for the new world order.

How is that shilling for the NWO? To not demoralise you that your life is over from a fucking flu? No, your life is not over from Covid. If you think your life is over you’re pathetic and need to grow up. Life is still wonderful.

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That's why I specified it as western AAA you fucking retard. Off course there are some new games that are good, but not a single one of them are western AAA games. Retard. You actual fucking shit for brains no reading comprehension retard.

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I wish instead of being a proto-ipad kid who got shoved in front of a PS1 & Gameboy, I was raised intelligently and introduced to healthier hobbies.

Yeah and it continues to get shittier you fucking faggot, both my grandfathers were 5' tall, married virgins who never had to work and gave them 5/7 children, were in skilled work every day of their lives till they retired far better off than they could have imagined when they were young with their children more so. The level of cope you need to pretend otherwise is fucking mind bending

I thank God and Charles Darwin every day that I'm not one of those and always find new good shit to play. Being a nostalgia söybeard must be a truly cursed existence.
Although the main problem here is those retards having corporate brands imprinted on their childhood memories. Evil shit.

both my grandfathers were 5' tall, married virgins who never had to work and gave them 5/7 children, were in skilled work every day of their lives till they retired far better off than they could have imagined when they were young with their children more so

Can I remind you that this mainly happened because adults in Europe had a retard moment and nuked themselves 2 times in a row, which resulted in global hegemony getting handed to your country on a silver platter and the entire population of it getting to enjoy unreal, historically unprecedented wealth and prosperity? That gravy train has run out by your time. It didn't went to shit, it merely returned to its intended state. It seems that US attempted to start another total obliterating war in Europe to bring back good ol' days, but so far it doesn't seem to be working out lol.

Nigger, if you had other opportunities, you would have naturally grown out of video games as you aged. People don't "quit" video games, they just get distracted by other things in the natural flow of life.

Most of us were social outcasts, so that was never going to happen. That "flow" never happened to us.

Oh yes, nothing has changed at all stop noticing goyyyyy

Imagine being happy in the year of our lord 2025
I cannot

You literally deserve death because even if unironically you are essentially asserting that criticism = bad

nothing like it had ever happened before and nothing like it has ever happened since.

It was Harry Potter and then Game of Thrones for the next generations. I'll even suggest minions though I was way too old for it. Younger Gen Z and Gen Alpha probably has shit too maybe Fortnite or Roblox, but I'm not sure.

and we were THE target audience for it.

This is why Pokemon is such a nostalgia trap though. It was all that a lot of people did as kids. They played pretty much no other games, and did absolutely nothing else besides Pokemon and school work. These people just want mutual community and free time again.

Pokemon was dragged into 3D way too fucking hard, it's a series that can only work on 2D and when you are a kid.
The 2D sprites and visuals are easier to abstract and let your imagination fill in the gaps, the 3D animations and models just look ugly and incomplete. Both are not how Pokemon would actually battle if we compare the game's battles to stuff like the anime or stadium/colosseum but we can easily realise that when it's just 2D sprites, the 3D models seem lazy and unfullfilling. Pokemon is a series that can only work if you do A LOT of mental filling between what's supposed to be happening on screen and what the screen is actually showing, it's no difderent than playing with toy cars. No wonder older pokemon players tend to see their mons more as stat numbers, IVs and so on because in truth that's all they really are to someone without a youthful gaze.

no nuance or special quirks

All of the old generations of pokemon absolutely have their quirks, not that I'd expect you to know that since we both know they were way before your time, tyke

It was Harry Potter and then Game of Thrones for the next generations

Neither came anywhere close to how big Pokemon was and still is

Pokémon is literally the biggest and most successful franchise ever. There has never been anything like it.

They played pretty much no other games

This is a myth, nobody ONLY played Pokemon

did absolutely nothing else besides Pokemon and school work.

I actually did try to do things other than video games and schoolwork. The issue is that I couldn't find any other kids in my area to do other things with. I'd go outside every day after school/on the weekends and ride my bike or walk around searching for kids to hang out and become friends with. Couldn't find any, so always ended up back at home playing vidya or getting on the internet alone. That's why I became so depressed, fat, and sick in my mid-teens. I'm better now (still didn't find any friends, but I'm not depressed anymore and I lost all the weight I put on), but that was an absolutely miserable experience. I liked video games, but what I didn't like was not having anyone to do anything else with

The still successful now is the key word there. Harry Potter and Game of Thrones are far less popular now, but Pokemon is also less popular then it was during the craze. In comparing childhood crazes Harry Potter specifically is comparable for kids who were in the peak demographic. It was huge, toys were on every shelf, kids constantly dressed up as Harry Potter, it was all they talked about at school, everybody read the books in public, etc. Harry Potter also had a lot of adult fans (when it came out for whatever reason + it had kids with their parents), the Pokemon craze was mostly just kids. Harry Potter was Pokemon for kids in the right demographic.

>They played pretty much no other games

This is a myth, nobody ONLY played Pokemon

I said pretty much no other games. Parents were really shit at buying their kids games, kids got Pokemon and a lot of shovel ware, and most people used rental games which they never managed to finish. The anime and card games also really helped with the appeal. You don't see a lot of people talking about playing shit like SMT or Dragon Quest as a kid for example, they'll usually just talk about Pokemon or Mario games.

I actually did try to do things other than video games and schoolwork.

I'm talking about people who actually had good childhoods, had a good time in school, played video games with their friends, and now post about video games not being good anymore and wanting to be a child again. You're not really in that category.

I played Gold for the first time in 2017 so it isn't nostalgia that makes me think it's probably the peak of pokemon and 100000% better than what game freak shits out nowadays.

I replay pokemon gold at least once every year. It never fails to bring my that childhood joy every single time I replay it. Love me my pokemon gold. Simple as.

Can't say for certain as I've not played any of these, but if your answer to "new games suck" is "play indie", I don't think you understand what the issue is

The battle screen on the left is an ABSTRACTION. You are supposed to imagine the battle. It's an abstract representation of what the real battle would look like, just like in most JRPGs.

The battle screen on the right is too 3D, too realistic, leaves nothing to the imagination and DOES NOT WORK as an abstraction. The pokemon are REALLY THERE, two feet away from each other, repeating their lame idle animations over and over again. 3D does NOT work as an abstraction. So instead of asking you to imagine the awesome things it represents, it's doing the imagining for you and showing you a really lame, sterile, lifeless "battle".

The gen 4 remakes of Gold and Silver are also fantastic and very much worth playing if you ever feel like playing more gen 2 at some point.

mutual community and free time

the denial of this for us is the entire point of the world economy

New games suck cock. Endless monetization, glitches and patches out the ass, politics blaring fucking everywhere. I barely play anything that came out after the year 2000 anymore.

I can see people saying new game bad to an extent since the current era of the industry fucking sucks. Companies don't even want to release games anymore since the budgets are too bloated and they're chasing the everlasting live service high. Too busy consulting psychologists on the best ways to make their game monetarily addicting to make a good game.
You could probably say that about people that insist on nostalgia too much though. People will piss and moan about how things used to be better, turns out the actual problem is that they actively refuse to actually DO anything

Games don't make me feel the same as they used to.

No faggot, the issue is the entire incentive structure for the video game industry has completely fucking broken down and the companies making them are actively making terrible fucking products that make you miserable.
Literally anyone can fire up some B tier game they never played from the 2000s and there would even be the most marginal of efforts in making something actually fun.
Fuck your niggerfaggot OOOOH YOU'RE JUST NAWSAWLGIC shit sucks right now in gaming and the only fucking upside is that there's so little worth playing coming out these days you don't even have to pirate shit.

Nigger, politics have been in video games since day 1

Will check these out. Steam Next Fest really showed me that I don't play enough Indie games.

Nobody understands what nostalgia means. What it actually means is that your mind makes the past seem better than it actually was, because you don't remember the bad parts, only the good ones.

Same thing with media. We remember the good stuff because it's good, but there's way more stuff that was completely forgotten because it was mediocre or terrible. And even with things we like, we don't remember the bad parts.

The day/night cycle blew my mind. So comfy. Sadly Gold/Silver came out right as I was growing out of gaming... and I actually only played the Japanese import version and never got a localized copy. I didn't know Japanese at the time, so after I beat the elite 4, I didn't realize that I could go back to Kanto and I just stopped playing.

Why yes, I think I will do as you predicted and deride all video games as goyslop. Maybe this board should stop playing video games and finally grow up to be normal like me.

I'll still call you all faggots of course because I'm me.

Peak pokefever was amazing and no other fad has ever come close. Well maybe the initial release of PokemonGo. Okay Harry Potter fever was insane too.

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Truth Nuke

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