What went wrong?

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What went wrong?

Nothing, it's just a matter of taste

Nothing. Anon Babbleirgins just got filtered like the bitches they are.

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Too much focus on resource management.

the encounters weren't hard enough, they needed to add way more demons to ultra nightmare. The game is so fucking fun but the encounters are too weak.

Additionally, they need to remove the gay puzzle bosses. What the fuck is the point of those?

Other than that, it's a stellar game.

Mechanics bloat, resource management and quick swapping.

I enjoyed it except for the marauders. They were annoying as fuck.

dude le skill issue!!!

It wasn't hard just tedious.

And don't get me started on those fucking niggers that curse you and you have to bloodpunch them to get rid of it.

Nothing, it was great

Nothing except maybe marauders.
Fuck off back to your discord cult.

Nothing. It's better than 2016.

fun

It’s not fun. The gameplay loop is incredibly restricted, repetitive and boring once you master it. Quick swapping between ballista and SSG to shit out DPS isn’t fun or interesting gameplay.

Mechanics bloat

Perfectly said. They had so many awesome ideas but it was just too much. Fun game for sure but by the end it felt like you were constantly spinning 10 plates simultaneously. Maybe I'm just getting old but after a level I had to take a break because the game is exhausting.

just use a grenade and one shot them anon
I really like both of the games for their own strengths. I loved how the environments looked in 2016, and the demons seemed more serious in that game

Are you guys looking forward to the dark ages? Do you think that it will actually be good?

Disagree. 16 had just the perfect amount of combat mechanics and resource management without draining you mentally. The insinstance of having to deal with demons' weakpoints with specific weapons and weapon mods took away from the fun of just scooting about and blasting shit.

to shit out dps

good thing there are no enemies that need so much dps that you might as well be raiding black temple, so there's no reason to do anything unfun... I'm pretty sure freezing a big bad and then triple locking with the rocket launcher one cycles anything anyways... I don't find the gameplay "restrictive" at all

This homo gets it.
Game is dogshit and so is the DLC.
Play something else, this game is a waste of time.

Either I'm getting old or this game's just too fast. It's not even the gamespeed, it's most that demons now shoot projectives at quadruple the rate they did in 16 and now everyone is always constantly up your ass. You get swarmed immediately and the battlefield becomes too frantic to enjoy for me.

Idk anon I'm about to turn 33 and I wish that the game was a bit faster

I tried playing Eternal again and I completely agree with all your points. Playing eternal is a chore. I remember when Doom 2016 released, used to play it even after work and it was always fun. But playing Eternal is exhausting. This is an inventory management game disguised as an arcade. Constantly running out of ammo and health then chainsawing, glory killing and flaming enemies to get health, ammo and shield every 15 seconds is not fun at all. Tried eternal for 5 hours and dropped it, reinstalled and tried again but uninstalled after 1 hour. I’m hoping that Dark Ages is not like eternal and is truly a fun Arcade shooter.

It is looking more like guitar hero than an arcade shooter

good thing there are no enemies that need so much dps

Nta but Marauders? You have such a short windows to deal damage after the green flash thing, you pretty much have to or you'll be stuck fighting the Marauder for 2-3 minutes at a time, which completely breaks the flow of combat. Even the blood punch didn't help much against them. Honestly my most hated enemy in the game. I almost ragequit when they made you fight 2 at the same time and they're constantly buffed by those screechers. Horrible horrible design imho.

focus on gay platforming, linear levels in contrast to previous doom games, and reddit-tier story

Spastic in all the wrong ways for a doom game. Constant swapping breaks the flow of the game and the slowmo for the weapon wheel makes it even worse.

ITT: Slowfag cope
Doom Eternal perfected the genre and made every FPS obsolete by comparison. You cannot deny this. Nothing compares to the speed, difficulty, verticality and intensity of Eternal.

The game that broke and exposed Anon Babble

Nothing. It's the best FPS I've ever played.

AAGMR

Nothing it’s a fun game. I’m looking forward to Dark Ages.

First third is Simon Says.
Second third is room for experimentation and CAN be fun
Final third is tedium.

Are you me?

Seriously, I too dropped the game, i think level 3 (the snow one), got totally filtred. I give it another chance like a year later and droped after 1 or 2 hours. Looking forward to The dark ages since it looks way more slower

No ammo.

enemy designed for 1v1 combat

throw him into an arena with 9999999 other demons trying to kill you

fuck this guy and fuck you

Should’ve been a one off boss.

They repurposed him as the final boss. Yawn.

The most massive filtering this board has ever seen.
Then again what do you expect, Anon Babblefags can just barely manage to play garbage FOTM VNs, much less actual games.

This. The game is mostly good but the game wants you to cycle through and use X to solve X problem every time. All the resources are design exactly for the cycle. Which isn't fun, you can't pick a worse weapon and be clever.

The story emphasis is also trash but it's mostly wasted resources since you don't play Doom for the story.

you can't pick a worse weapon and be clever.

Yes you can.

And don't get me started on those fucking niggers that curse you and you have to bloodpunch them to get rid of it.

Chaingun shield prevents the curse effect, but you can also tag them with ballista for a Glory Kill or hook and shoot with the SSG for an instant kill, they're glass cannons like regular Prowlers.

Marauders go down in like 10 seconds.

What went right?

How

Unironically pulled out of the gutter by Farty Strapon and Huge Martian.

By shooting them. You can claim everything is so "le tedious," but you're literally too dumb for the game's combat.

What do you get out of contrarian posting?

knowing how to play the game is being a contrarian

Like I said, you're not smart enough for this game. I bet you follow the tutorials to a T.

lmao chief didn't stand a chance

This.

always run out of ammo

shotgun has max of 16 shells

"I'm sure it'll get better once I get all the ammo upgrades"

caps out at 24 shells

They could've dropped the whole flame belch mechanic, I barely used it anyway and finished the game by basically ignoring it but it's just one less keybind that's off your mind.

And I'm not a fan of the chainsaw not being a weapon but just another glory kill button that gives you a slight ammo refill. But I guess that wouldn't feed into the resource management loop where everything needs to have exactly one mechanical purpose only.

I've played through it and both DLC missions. It got a lot more enjoyable once you learn about weapon combos (SSG+Blood Punch+Grenades etc) but even then like you said, it's just a chore. The game is so up its own ass with its mechanics that it forgets to just let you have fun shooting shit, which is a shame because the gunplay feels great.

"These assholes are gonna sic 2 of them simultaneously at me at some point, aren't they?"

you have to fight 2 + an armored baron of hell + gargoyles bombarding you at the same time

They could've dropped the whole flame belch mechanic

Flame Belch is literally the best thing ever. Don't like to rely on Glory Kills to keep yourself topped up? Literally just Belch all the time. The way it powers up your Blood Punch after the upgrade is kino. Lets you punch a group of enemies 3-4 times in a row.

The story was the definition of trying too hard. 16 was fun because it just there to set the scene and flavour the slayer as this mythological demon killer. Now everything has to be hyper explained and given a stupid background story, leaving nothing to the imagination. There's no more mystery, just boring lore spelling out everything. Hell and all the evil shit out there is a lot more interesting and menacing when you don't know every little goddamn detail of their inner workings and origins but we seem to be catering to a growing crowd of people who need to have absolutely everything explained to them no matter how minute.

The game took out all the speed so it could add it back as a short dash with a cool down; really, the game is actually slower than 2016, much less the OG. They took inspiration from MOBAs and MMOs and put all your abilities and resources on cooldowns. They added too much lower. They gave skippable cutscenes, but then they made unskippable "Hey! Look at that fucking door that unlocked for 5 seconds in this arena with exactly 1 entrance and 1 exit!" and then the whole game is boring linear hallways punctuated by constant arenas; it makes 2016 level design look labyrinthine, and is distinctly not true to the originals. It completely abandoned what little seriousness, darkness, and sincerity the series had for Marvel quips, spectacle, and overwrought "lore" because the writers actually thought they have some kind of talent or skill.

About the only thing the game did well was construct an engine that can run well even on a potato, which is the only thing true to the originals.

Post your nightmare save file

And worst part is, this is going to be the new flavour of Doom going forwards. We'll never get another classic shoot 'em up Doom, it's just gonna be hyper frantic arena shooter from now on.

Which is a shame because again, the shield and flail and shit they showed off in the Dark Ages trailer look really damn cool, but I'm not interested in the slightest because I know what awful gameplay it comes with.